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reserved

I have reserved win 10 on the two computers I built both AMD's and a store bought intel from Walmart that my wife uses and that includes windows 7 ult, wind 7 home, win 8.1 w/mc I will try it in all putters, just remember you can do like I do and backup everything with acronis and if you don't like it you can reinstall your old computer back to where it was before and it will still be activated and all your games will work just like before, I do a full backup at leased once a month and then delete the old backup to save space, I have two hard drives in each computer and I back up to the second hard drive so when I do a clean install it doesn't deleate my backup !

How

geo334 wrote:

I have reserved win 10 on the two computers I built both AMD's and a store bought intel from Walmart that my wife uses and that includes windows 7 ult, wind 7 home, win 8.1 w/mc I will try it in all putters, just remember you can do like I do and backup everything with acronis and if you don't like it you can reinstall your old computer back to where it was before and it will still be activated and all your games will work just like before, I do a full backup at leased once a month and then delete the old backup to save space, I have two hard drives in each computer and I back up to the second hard drive so when I do a clean install it doesn't deleate my backup !

What do you use to do a full backup.
I am using SyncBack and only copy my files but have never tried to do a full backup.

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Backup

I use Arconis True Image (about $30 on Amazon).
It's easy to use and it's one of the best you can find.

I do regular backups of my files with it to a portable drive.

My plan is to use Arconis to clone my main drive using a spare drive I have laying around before I do the upgrade. That way it would be easy to just swap drives if there is a problem.

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Windows Insider Users. When

Windows Insider Users. When a new Build is availabele, will the current installation automatically update, or do you have to download the new ISO and install? Does the new install overwrite the current install or does it do an update when you install it?

I'm trying it in a Virtual Machine, so it really doesn't matter. I can keep or delete the current VM and create a new one, but it would be better if it just updated.

BTW the new ISO build, 10162 is available on the Insider website.

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backup

how does a backup make a hard drive bootable...new one on me

You have to make the HD

You have to make the HD bootable to start with.

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@phranc

Builds do get updated via Windows update, but it depends on what ring you're on. The slow ring gets fewer builds, but there's more time between the builds to fix problems. The fast ring is the reverse.

I went onto the fast ring last night, because I forgot my HP was on the slow ring, and updated to build 10162. This particular build may also be sent to slow ring insiders next week, according to Gabe Aul.

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Free Acronis

I downloaded the free Seagate Disc Wizard from their support site. It's a limited version of Acronis True Image but has the essentials. I have internal and external drives made by Seagate and do not know if it would work with other drives.

Clone

stan393 wrote:

how does a backup make a hard drive bootable...new one on me

You can't boot from a backup but you can from a clone.
Cloning will duplicate your disk onto another disk including the boot sectors.

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Can't find the directions

rlohnes wrote:
stan393 wrote:

how does a backup make a hard drive bootable...new one on me

You can't boot from a backup but you can from a clone.
Cloning will duplicate your disk onto another disk including the boot sectors.

Well I didn't look very hard.
How do you clone your PC. I found how to Clone for SD card for Garmin but can not find how to clone my pc.
Thanks, Mary

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Mary, drive imaging is not a

Mary, drive imaging is not a part of Windows, so you need third-party software. For example, I use Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 to make an image of my drive, and save that image in case I need to restore the PC. To do it requires little more knowledge than selecting which drive to back up. On the download page, which can be accessed via the link I provided, there is a link to the user manual. Take a look at it and it should explain how to make a backup.

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Thanks

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Mary, drive imaging is not a part of Windows, so you need third-party software. For example, I use Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 to make an image of my drive, and save that image in case I need to restore the PC. To do it requires little more knowledge than selecting which drive to back up. On the download page, which can be accessed via the link I provided, there is a link to the user manual. Take a look at it and it should explain how to make a backup.

This looks very interesting to me also. Thank you.

In Windows 8.1

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Mary, drive imaging is not a part of Windows, so you need third-party software. For example, I use Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 to make an image of my drive, and save that image in case I need to restore the PC. To do it requires little more knowledge than selecting which drive to back up. On the download page, which can be accessed via the link I provided, there is a link to the user manual. Take a look at it and it should explain how to make a backup.

If you look under Control Panel>File History and look at the last menu item on the left "System Image Backup".

Then it seems that all you need to restore the image is a windows bootable disk/USB or the installation disk to restore.

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Macrium Reflect is another good program

Macrium is free and will also create an image of your main drive (or drives),
The image would be saved to a CD/DVD or another hard drive. It can be used to bring back (restore) your computer.

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@pb46

LOL. And I have a Windows 8.1 device too! However, that won't help Mary out, as she wasn't talking about a Windows 8.1 device. Nevertheless, I stand corrected. smile

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Win 10

can we come back to 7 after win 10 install?

As of right now, the Insider

As of right now, the Insider Previews have a one month window where you may revert back to Windows 7. After that, you can restore Windows 7 only with a clean install using a Windows 7 DVD, as Windows 10 neuters access to the restore partition common on Windows 7 devices.

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Well I looked all over

pb46 wrote:
Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Mary, drive imaging is not a part of Windows, so you need third-party software. For example, I use Paragon Backup and Recovery 14 to make an image of my drive, and save that image in case I need to restore the PC. To do it requires little more knowledge than selecting which drive to back up. On the download page, which can be accessed via the link I provided, there is a link to the user manual. Take a look at it and it should explain how to make a backup.

If you look under Control Panel>File History and look at the last menu item on the left "System Image Backup".

Then it seems that all you need to restore the image is a windows bootable disk/USB or the installation disk to restore.

I looked all over and could not find file history then I read the other post and see you were talking about Windows 8.1 and not Windows 7.
Thanks anyway. Mary

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Windows 10 new build update

I installed the new build 10162 on my Vista today. This replaced my 10130. It came in by Windows Update and I did not have to save this one to disk.
All went well and working great.

I also received the offer to reserve Windows 10 on my HP Mini Netbook.
I reserved it and all is ok and ready to go. I was surprised Microsoft had a Windows 10 for it. I may do the preview on the Netbook to see how it is going to work.

Thanks all on the information for a disk image. My backup program doesn't offer that option in the free version but does in the paid one. Will have to look into buying it.
Thanks again, Mary

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Create a System Image on Windows 7

I just found this on my Windows 7.
Click Start
Click on Getting Started
Click on Back up your files
On the left hand side of this screen click on Create a System Image

It's late so I will try this tomorrow and see what I get.

Mary

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Sounds like a plan .....

mgarledge wrote:

I just found this on my Windows 7.
Click Start
Click on Getting Started
Click on Back up your files
On the left hand side of this screen click on Create a System Image

It's late so I will try this tomorrow and see what I get.

Mary

Glad you found something in your version. I seem to remember that one of the biggest complaints of windows 8 was the apparent removal to the system image utility. So much so, that they brought it back I guess in 8.1.

Mary, don't forget to read up on how to restore the image. I've recently read that after a short period of time ( around 30 days), the recovery partition on your computer will be removed. This is important because it provides you with an environment for the image recovery to work. Once the partition is gone, you will need another way to boot up to use the recovery environment. This can be done by using windows bootable disk/USB or the Installation disk to restore ( if available).

I'm really curious to see how your efforts progress ... please don't forget to keep us up-to-date.

Good luck smile

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Macrium

pwohlrab wrote:

Macrium is free and will also create an image of your main drive (or drives),
The image would be saved to a CD/DVD or another hard drive. It can be used to bring back (restore) your computer.

I've used Macrium for years - love it! I've had to restore PCs a couple times and it's always worked.

The previous backup software I used would make the backups, but the one time I needed to do a restore, it failed. Kind of like knowing you have a spare tire in the trunk of your car, but the day you need it, you find out it's flat too.

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Error on Image Backup

The backup started then about 3 minutes in I get this

"One of the backup files could not be created. (0x8078002A)
Additional Information:
The request could not be preformed because of an I/O device error. (0x8007045D)"

Anyone know what this means and if I can fix it?

Thanks, Mary

EDIT: just look at my hard drive and there is a .vhd file 54.0MB
Is this a partial file? Should I delete the folders the backup created since it did not complete?

Also, I thought the image would be .img file. Do I need to find another way to make a image file?

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Macrium

pwohlrab wrote:

Macrium is free and will also create an image of your main drive (or drives),
The image would be saved to a CD/DVD or another hard drive. It can be used to bring back (restore) your computer.

It appears on their web-site that there is only a trial version and the complete purchased version. Could not find the free version any longer.

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Looks like they made a change I wasn't aware of.

Looks like when they went from version 5 to version 6 they made it no longer free.

This link looks to be good for version 5.

http://malwaretips.com/threads/macrium-reflect-free-edition-...

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Macrium Reflect

Thanks pwohlrab. I'll check it out. I like free!

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?

pwohlrab wrote:

Looks like when they went from version 5 to version 6 they made it no longer free.

This link looks to be good for version 5.

http://malwaretips.com/threads/macrium-reflect-free-edition-v-5-3-7220-new-release.33177/

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
We are pleased to announce that Macrium Reflect v6 Free Edition is available now.

preview on HP netbook

Well, I finally became brave enough to download the preview of Windows 10 on my HP Mini Netbook. It is updating and installing from Windows Update. I did not have to make an IOS file. Will let everyone know if it works OK on a mini after it is through updating.

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There is an old IT / user saying:

"Windows ain't done until Word Perfect won't run" mad

mgarledge wrote:

Well, I finally became brave enough to download the preview of Windows 10 on my HP Mini Netbook. It is updating and installing from Windows Update. I did not have to make an IOS file. Will let everyone know if it works OK on a mini after it is through updating.

The real questions are whether;

1. Will Win10 allow users to install a perfectly legitimate copy of such legacy programs as MSFT's own Office 2003, Word Perfect Office 2002, Adobe Elements, or Acronis True Image? And if not ...
2. ... will MSFT permit a reversion back to, say a ligit copy of Win 7.

After all: the (+/-) richest man in the U.S. didn't become such by giving away the family jewels! wink

Installing Progams on Windwos 10

350Zee wrote:

"Windows ain't done until Word Perfect won't run" mad

mgarledge wrote:

Well, I finally became brave enough to download the preview of Windows 10 on my HP Mini Netbook. It is updating and installing from Windows Update. I did not have to make an IOS file. Will let everyone know if it works OK on a mini after it is through updating.

The real questions are whether;

1. Will Win10 allow users to install a perfectly legitimate copy of such legacy programs as MSFT's own Office 2003, Word Perfect Office 2002, Adobe Elements, or Acronis True Image? And if not ...
2. ... will MSFT permit a reversion back to, say a ligit copy of Win 7.

After all: the (+/-) richest man in the U.S. didn't become such by giving away the family jewels! wink

I have installed the various builds on several computers, from upgrading Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and hard drive wipe and loads to Windows 10. Not counting Windows Phone, Windows 10 computers will allow you to install programs that you own, as well as the ever growing apps in the Windows App Store.
I've installed Office 365 and One Drive for Business, as well as the "stand alone" version of Office and many other programs. Hope this helps.

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XP virtual machine?

Does Windows 10 still provide the XP virtual machine like Windows 7 did? Believe it or not, there are still some old 8 bit DOS utilities around, and the XP virtual machine extended their life one more time. For example, I have an old UMAX page scanner that has not had updated software or drivers since Windows 98. I don't use it often, but it still works fine with XP Virtual machine for fax or simple xerox type copy operations when needed. I found it pretty amazing that some 25 year old DOS/Windows programs written in the late 1980's or early 90's still work perfectly well on the W7 XP virtual machine.

But ... I know, I know ... there comes a time to "just throw it away".

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Hope tomorrow is better

I forgot that if I wanted to do a clean install I had to save to iso.
Well the update that came through Windows Updater for my Netbook is a no go. No internet and all my old stuff is still there. The stuff I wanted off to help make my machine faster.
I put the iso file on a USB drive but it is too late tonight so I will do it tomorrow afternoon.
Will keep you informed. Mary

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that's false

that's false

Yes and Yes

350Zee wrote:

"Windows ain't done until Word Perfect won't run" mad

mgarledge wrote:

Well, I finally became brave enough to download the preview of Windows 10 on my HP Mini Netbook. It is updating and installing from Windows Update. I did not have to make an IOS file. Will let everyone know if it works OK on a mini after it is through updating.

The real questions are whether;

1. Will Win10 allow users to install a perfectly legitimate copy of such legacy programs as MSFT's own Office 2003, Word Perfect Office 2002, Adobe Elements, or Acronis True Image? And if not ...
2. ... will MSFT permit a reversion back to, say a ligit copy of Win 7.

After all: the (+/-) richest man in the U.S. didn't become such by giving away the family jewels! wink

1. Yes to all the programs you list. 16-bit and earlier won't run unless a virtual machine with the correct OS is installed. Windows 10 doesn't have a Windows XP mode.
2. Yes, but it needs to be from a disk, whether it be the computer's restore disks or an OEM copy of Windows. Windows 10 disables the restore partition on the computer it is installed upon.

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Not sure what you are talking about

GARYLAP wrote:

that's false

Was it something in my post above yours that was incorrect?

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Running a Virtual Machine...

If you want to run a Virtual Machine (VM) and have the OS to install, you can download and run for free VM software called Oracle VM VirtualBox.

I use this all the time for software that I need to run in 32bit env. It is free and works like a charm for me. (I also use it to test software that I download before running in my real env.)

You can find this at " https://www.virtualbox.org/ "

Hope this helps

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I've used VMWare in the past

I've used VMWare in the past and thought it was better than Virtualbox. Both work, but VMWare seems to have better hardware support.

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Today I installed Windows 10 build 10162

The update went great. Because the Netbook is small and has little memory, 2MB, it took a long time but all worked great. After installing it I checked for updates... should have waited a day or two.

There was an update. It was a new build, fbl_impressive 10166. I am in the process of installing it now. This came in through the Windows Update. I also updated the PC that used to be Vista. At least I had a week or so before this one. I started the Netbook first but the PC finished an hour or so ago. It is working great. Wasn't much time inbetween builds.

My husband doesn't want me to update our main computer because he doesn't want to chance loosing any of his favorites in Internet Explorer grin . I made a back up of them but he wished I wouldn't up date it. So I said I will not update our Windows 7 computer and get me a new on in a few months smile . I am not sure he was paying attention to what I said because he answered me with an OK. I am holding him to it. grin

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I also like VMWare but..

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

I've used VMWare in the past and thought it was better than Virtualbox. Both work, but VMWare seems to have better hardware support.

VMware is not free (except for the Player) I have used VMware and it is a better product but again, its not free. Where Virrualbox is an opensource product so it is a free for those that don't want or can put that kind of money down for it.

I am glad you mentioned it, I should have added that choice to the mix to.

Thanks!

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Build 10166

Build 10166 came out yesterday. Not much changed on the interface but it is reported more bugs are fixed. Yesterday was supposed to be the RTM sign off but reports are that did not happen. The fact that Windows 10 will be an ongoing work-in-progress leaves them a lot of breathing room. I recall back in the days before Windows Updates, when NT 4.0 came out, they had to release Service Pak 1 almost immediately due to the myriad of issues with the release. I would not be surprised to install Windows 10 and immediately get prompted to download a slew of updates. Much like installing any of the OS's now. Windows Update comes to life and tells you that you have about 150+ updates to install!

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Any one read this?

Anyone read this? Makes you think. I went to buy Office and see it is a monthly charge to "use" it. Hope this is not is going to happen to Windows 10. My daughter said Apple operating updates are always free. Hopefully Windows 10 follows in these tracks.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/10/free-wind...

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That's been a running

That's been a running concern for a while, but I believe Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did employ a subscription model for Windows 10. People are so used to free updates for the OS that if Microsoft does start charging, Linux and Apple will both benefit as Windows 10 users seek alternatives.

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Windows XP

e_piph_a_ny wrote:

"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."

Anyone that is still running XP is in serious risk of being hacked. MS stopped providing updates last year and it is a real risk. Today's hackers are for the most part organized criminals not nerdy high school kids. They can steal what they want and be gone without your knowledge.

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Jealousy

mgarledge wrote:

The update went great. Because the Netbook is small and has little memory, 2MB, it took a long time but all worked great. After installing it I checked for updates... should have waited a day or two

....

My husband doesn't want me to update our main computer because he doesn't want to chance loosing any of his favorites in Internet Explorer grin . I made a back up of them but he wished I wouldn't up date it. So I said I will not update our Windows 7 computer and get me a new on in a few months smile . I am not sure he was paying attention to what I said because he answered me with an OK. I am holding him to it. grin

OK, all your activity made me jealous so I installed the Win 10 Preview on my old laptop. It's working well so far and will give me early experience with Win 10 before the official release will be installed on my desktop.

Some of my reasoning for installing the Preview was that my old laptop had two 50GB partitions, one intended for programs and the other for data. I wanted to merge them into a single C: drive. Amazing, using the partitioning feature in Win 7, I was able to merge my C and D drives and kept my Win 7 and programs on C and they still ran well. I didn't expect that. If I had known I could do this, I would have done it when I got the PC. The other reason for installing the Preview on the laptop is that I wanted Win 10 to be the 64bit version and from my Googling, it appears that my Win7 32bit laptop would only update to Win10 32bit. So instead of waiting for the official Win 10, I did a fresh install of Win 10 64bit Preview to the laptop. Now I just have to install my programs, copy my Favorites, etc. I've decided to stick with Windows Defender and Firewall on the Preview, and will hold off installing Norton Security until after the official release version is out.

In all the work with the laptop, I was reminded that it was purchased with Vista, then updated at my expense with a Upgrade Version of Win 7. It's amazing that the hardware on an old Vista laptop still does well with Win 10.

Thanks, Mary, for your effort in turning me green with envy which was cured only by trying Win 10 early. laugh out loud

One last question for anyone. I know that Win 7 and 8 PCs were sent an invitation to reserve Win 10 and once reserved, the official Win 10 will come via Windows Update. Will my Preview version of Win 10 automatically be offered the official Win 10 version when it's released through Windows Update without needing to accept an offered reservation?

Yes

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

That's been a running concern for a while, but I believe Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did employ a subscription model for Windows 10. People are so used to free updates for the OS that if Microsoft does start charging, Linux and Apple will both benefit as Windows 10 users seek alternatives.

I was just wondering how Apple would be to use if Windows starts charging. I have 2 PC, 1 Netbook, and 1 Tablet, and don't want to pay to update them.
My daughter has Apple and loves it. Will have to wait to upgrade to any thing new till I know if Windows is going to charge yearly. Just thinking, that may be a while so I may upgrade something before then. grin

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Updates for XP

John.jcb wrote:
e_piph_a_ny wrote:

"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."

Anyone that is still running XP is in serious risk of being hacked. MS stopped providing updates last year and it is a real risk. Today's hackers are for the most part organized criminals not nerdy high school kids. They can steal what they want and be gone without your knowledge.

I get monthly updates for my old XP machine. I made a registry change and it is now identified as a "Windows Point of Sale" (WEPOS) system.

Windows 10

johnm405 wrote:

My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false? question

False, you download and install just like any upgrade.

Check out thurrott.com to get answers, he's a Windows guru

A couple Garmin-related questions

I tried to install POI Loader to my new Win 10 laptop and saw that it said it'd need to install some .NET files. Since these .NETs aren't offered through Windows Update for Win 10, I thought I'd hold off on the update.

BaseCamp installed on my Win 10 laptop just fine.

Garmin Express says it's not compatible with my OS and offered me GarminMapUpdater. Once again I'll hold off on the installation.

Have you others with Win10 Preview seen the same results?

The computer I put it on

CraigW wrote:

I tried to install POI Loader to my new Win 10 laptop and saw that it said it'd need to install some .NET files. Since these .NETs aren't offered through Windows Update for Win 10, I thought I'd hold off on the update.

BaseCamp installed on my Win 10 laptop just fine.

Garmin Express says it's not compatible with my OS and offered me GarminMapUpdater. Once again I'll hold off on the installation.

Have you others with Win10 Preview seen the same results?

Not my main computer and have not put any Garmin on it. The next time I am on it I will try POI Loader.
I use Garmin Map Updater so will try that too.

Did you turn into Windows Feedback about the ones you couldn't use.

What about EPE and WebUpdater? Did you try these?

Each one I can't use I turn in on Feedback.

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Just now on Windows 10

I do not use Garmin Express but this is on the page. Looks like they have worked on it. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks all will work. Maybe one of you that uses Garmin Express will try it.

https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?...

When trying to open Garmin in Edge, I was taken to a link to open in Internet Explorer and it said Garmin worked better in IE.

Windows feedback one week ago. It said Build 10159 now Supports Garmin Express 4.1.3. Have had build updates since then but maybe it still supports it.

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