"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."
I've been running the preview version of it on my old laptop for close to half a year now and so far I like it. It seem like a great mix of the best of 7 and 8.1. I've had no problems to mention. All my older programs work fine and the interface is easy to use. Of course I've just been playing with it to see how it works. I'm not using it on my mainstream laptop yet but I probably will switch when the final version comes out.
-- Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
I watch the podcast Windows Weekly, part of the group of TWIT (This Week in Tech) group of shows. Although I'm a couple episodes behind. They say Win 10 is not subscription based, Win 7 and later is a free upgrade for a year. Microsoft has hinted Win 10 will be more like mobile OS devices in so much as a new Windows won't be forth coming after 10, just a series of updates to keep 10 relevant. MS development software is being modified so Apps for Win 10 will run on all MS devices, PCs, phone and XBox; so that a developer can write software once and it can be deployed on all 3 platforms without modification. This is given the moniker "Universal App". It was also mentioned on the show that MS is planning to make it possible to run Android Apps and IOS Apps on Win 10 through some sort of Virtualization software. Not many details on that yet and probably more than a year away. Also interesting is that Windows OS is in 4th place for MS revenues. Clouds services are #1. So MS strategy is trying to get Win 10 on more devices so that more users will be exposed to their services and other revenue sources. The same strategy used by Android (Google) and IOS (Apple mobile). Also of interest to some is popular Office Apps such as Word, Excel, One Note, Power Point and recently added Outlook apps are now available for FREE on IOS and Android. There is also an on-line version of Office for free as well, but you need a free MS account.
One windows box on the network, which supports industrial/production applications. It runs XP, as it has for years. It sits behind a firewall with very limited access to the outside world.
Will probably upgrade it to Windows 7, but can't see going to 8 or 10 -- which would probably require new hardware.
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My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false?
Upgrade will be delivered through Windows Automatic Update. Just like other OS upgrades, Murphy's law will probably take effect. Get a professional help if you don't know what you're doing. You can do it yourself otherwise.
Just bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and can not stand the desktop. Did not take me long to find a program so all my programs, control panel etc are all like in Windows 7.
-- Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.
Just bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and can not stand the desktop. Did not take me long to find a program so all my programs, control panel etc are all like in Windows 7.
I have to admit that I'm not overly pleased with Windows 8.X. But I think discomfort is often the price that is paid for progress. I was quite comfortable using XP and saw no reason to go to the 8.X format. And as I get older, change becomes less necessary to me.
But as everything moves to multiple mobile platforms (smartphone, tablet, etc.) it is probably easier to drag the luddites forward rather than retrograde new applications.
I despise 8.1. WHY did they make idiotic changes such as the ESC key no longer backing out of apps? Yes, I know there is no ESC key on phones, etc. but they didn't need to remove that functionality that has been in place for eons.
I don't need a freaking touch interface on my computer. We have 2 desktops with Win 7 Pro, one laptop with Win 7 Pro, and one laptop with Win 8.1. Guess which one gets the least use...
If I want a mobile "experience" both of us have tablets and smart phones. I don't need "tiles" with constant updates for crap I don't use and don't care about at all.
I don't know how Windows 10 is going to be but I don't anticipate liking it.
One thing 10 does is customize itself for the type of device you install it on.
On an older desktop it works as a desktop system.
On a touchscreen computer it acts accordingly.
Same idea for tablets and cell phones.
It does a pretty good job of operating like you need it for your device.
-- Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
I bought a Windows 7 machine that had $10 upgrade to 8.0 which was updated to 8.1. Intention is let Windows 10 settle in before I update. Unless there's substantial problems by early adopters, I'll get curious and just do it. Microsoft has not had their OS act together since Win 7, maybe they'll get it right this time.
a good replacement for the Windows Media Center since it will not be part of Windows 10.
We have a SiliconDust network tuner that lets us view broadcast TV off our antenna on any PC connected to the home network. WMC also provides an easy way for us to record the off-air broadcast. Some of us will miss WMC
This link will let you download the start menu that you are familiar with for W 8.1 FREEEEEEEEE
http://download.cnet.com/Start-Menu-8/3000-2072_4-75852660.html
I wouldn't trust that executable(sm8-setup.exe). It is considered a potentially unwanted program (PUP), adware or a suspicious software.
Bet'cha dollars to donuts that you're using either Norton or Mcafee. They are always giving FALSE results!!!!!!
The download comes from C-Net!
-- Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.
I will stick to my standard policy of waiting until 1 year after a new major release of Windows to see if it is any good. This policy served me extremely well by not upgrading to the Windows 8 disaster.
Windows 7 does everything I need it to do and is running reliably therefore as far as I'm concerned I don't see a reason nor need to upgrade.
In January 2020 I figure it'll most probably be time to change computers so I'll choose the best OS out there at that given time.
The only real recommendation I can give is, if you can afford it then buy yourself an SSD and load your programs onto it, you'll be amazed on how fast it functions. I have a seperate hard drive for the contents I keep or download (Garmin maps etc) but very happy / impressed with the SSD.
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I changed my desktop from Windows 7 to 8 shortly after it came out. Downloaded Start8 to add a Start button ($4.99 at the time)and ran 8/8.1 for one year. Went back to Windows 7. I will watch 10 and see what folks are saying. If it is good i will look for a way to do a clean install (reformat the hard drive). Always better than upgrades though you may have to look for drivers for your stuff(printer etc). I always remember several years ago the FBI told Microsoft we need a way to find out where a computer is located when online. Ms said ok XX millions and we will build it. FBI said build it. What else that we don't know about are they putting on there
My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false?
Upgrade will be delivered through Windows Automatic Update. Just like other OS upgrades, Murphy's law will probably take effect. Get a professional help if you don't know what you're doing. You can do it yourself otherwise.
I was hoping that the Win7>10 process would give me two options:
-do a fresh install (no preservation of Win7 device programs or data), or
-replace Win7 with Win10 keeping all the Win7 device's programs and data.
I'm thinking that I'd choose the fresh install. With the conversion offered thru Windows Update, would this be possible?
A little info I picked from the article "Windows 10 will likely release for PC first and then later in the year on devices like phones, tablets, Xbox One and more. So, yes, Windows 10 will launch this summer, but not on every screen you own".
I was hoping that the Win7>10 process would give me two options:
-do a fresh install (no preservation of Win7 device programs or data), or
-replace Win7 with Win10 keeping all the Win7 device's programs and data.
I'm thinking that I'd choose the fresh install. With the conversion offered thru Windows Update, would this be possible?
Sorry, I don't know the details. I don't like upgrading OS. I prefer fresh install so I'm hoping there's an option to either order the setup media or download an ISO image. With the installation media, I can format and reload the OS whenever I want to. I doubt there will be an option to fresh install Win10 if the package is offered thru Windows Update. Hope I'm wrong.
That's the way I read it. It will be in incremental installments, based on having downloded an updated "Updater". The only Windows I run is in a Virtual Machine, so I will make a clone of my WIN7 machine and let it update to WIN10 and see what the results are.
Free...but there are catches depending on your apps. This version is really targeted at business and enterprise customers who refuse (for very good reasons) off Windows 7 and those few legacy locations where they have apps that will not work on anything newer than XP Pro.
MS has lost huge revenue streams when they released Win 8, and they are trying to get back into a refresh cycle when they will have customers upgrading and for those without support contracts, get back their revenue $$$.
I too have heard that the one year window (lol) allows non licensed/legitimate installations to upgrade at no charge. Looks like China is the target there.
I too have heard that the one year window (lol) allows non licensed/legitimate installations to upgrade at no charge. Looks like China is the target there.
"With Windows 10, although non-genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license ... If a device was considered non-genuine or mislicensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mislicensed after the upgrade," Microsoft said in a statement.
"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."
The windows 10 upgrade is only valid for users of windows 7 thru windows 8.1 and it is only valid for the first yr of its release (this we all know) so what most people dont know is that they will be moving to the cloud platform like they did with the office system. Much ado about the windows 365 to follow up to the office 365 mantra (they even copyrighted it).
This information could be vetted out by simply google searching and looking through the MSDN and Technet forums as well.
My suggestion is to wait for the 8 month mark and then get the upgrade as it will have some of the early bugs worked out by the early adopters. Microsoft says theis will be the very last major version of windows and everything from here on out will simply be updates and upgrades but the core system will remain intact as you see it now.
IMHO I personally think it is a complete waste of resources as windows 7 is pretty much the best windows OS on the planet and everything they have done so far after that is just downhill and useless. I own a small business computer shop and we deliberately do not sell nor recommend the use of anything beyond windows 7 for the PC world. Linux is really the way to go but it is not for everyone, yet.
I have been involved in the evaluation program and I am currently running build 10125. I have reported some issues that are being looked into but whether or not they make the cut I do not know. I like the interface better than Windows 8 but would prefer to have the start menu format of Windows 7 back. Nested items are still an issue but they could be fixed in time for the release.
I am also concerned about hardware drivers. It appears the Windows 8 drivers are not compatible so if you have an older piece of hardware that you like, you might not be able to get a driver to support it in Windows 10. I ran into this with several serial IO USB cables that the manufacturers decided not to support beyond Windows 7 (notably PL-2303). I bought newer cables to replace them and they work fine on Windows 8 but if the manufacturers decide to not upgrade the drivers then I will SOL again. Frankly, if a manufacturer decides they do not want to support a driver any longer, I wish they would open source it so those of us who know software can take a stab at upgrading it. Driver writing is black magic but it is a lot easier to upgrade a working driver than to write one from scratch.
what most people dont know is that they will be moving to the cloud platform like they did with the office system. Much ado about the windows 365 to follow up to the office 365 mantra (they even copyrighted it).
That's a sure way to lose customers (at least home users) or a push to use pirated Windows (the version that does not grab our credit cards every month). If that is true, I finally have a good reason to switch to OSX.
Customers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 will get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if the upgrade is performed within one year of release.
Microsoft stresses this does not mean Windows 10 is ‘free for one year’ it means those who upgrade to Windows 10 within one year will have it free for life.
Customers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 will get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if the upgrade is performed within one year of release.
Microsoft stresses this does not mean Windows 10 is ‘free for one year’ it means those who upgrade to Windows 10 within one year will have it free for life.
Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 Exceptions
But not every Windows 7 or 8.1 user will get a free upgrade. ‘Enterprise’ editions of both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are excluded from the upgrade offer, though ‘Pro’ editions are included.
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Looking forward to the free upgrade.
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Why
Looking forward to the free upgrade.
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Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!
"And upgrades to Windows 10
"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."
“It’s their world. We’re just living in it.”
First I heard
So they will let you upgrade for free, Old saying, beware, looks too good, nothing is ever free free?
I'll be waiting at least 6
I'll be waiting at least 6 months before even considering that upgrade. I hate being a Microsoft guinea pig.
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I'll put it on a second SSD. I understand it's free for life, and not a subscription-based OS, so bonus for us users.
IF it turns out to be subscription-based, I'll use it for the year and *poof*. Deleted.
Win 7 is good 'til 2022, if all else fails. Or, I'll go to a Linux distro.
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Try it on...
an old laptop running Win 7. Use it for a month or two, then decide for mine and my wife's laptops.
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Been running it
I've been running the preview version of it on my old laptop for close to half a year now and so far I like it. It seem like a great mix of the best of 7 and 8.1. I've had no problems to mention. All my older programs work fine and the interface is easy to use. Of course I've just been playing with it to see how it works. I'm not using it on my mainstream laptop yet but I probably will switch when the final version comes out.
Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
Windows 10
I'll wait for the first set of security patches to come out and then download it.
Will wait to upgrade
I'll wait for the first set of security patches to come out and then download it.
Same. I never jump into Windows updates until a good period of time has passed.
windows 10
My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false?
johnm405 660 & MSS&T
does anyone know
If Microsoft carried forward the timeout command that runs as a stand alone command from the command prompt?
TIA
Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!
Win 10
Depending on what articles you read pirates will also upgrade free, but on another they won't we'll see.
Windows 10
I watch the podcast Windows Weekly, part of the group of TWIT (This Week in Tech) group of shows. Although I'm a couple episodes behind. They say Win 10 is not subscription based, Win 7 and later is a free upgrade for a year. Microsoft has hinted Win 10 will be more like mobile OS devices in so much as a new Windows won't be forth coming after 10, just a series of updates to keep 10 relevant. MS development software is being modified so Apps for Win 10 will run on all MS devices, PCs, phone and XBox; so that a developer can write software once and it can be deployed on all 3 platforms without modification. This is given the moniker "Universal App". It was also mentioned on the show that MS is planning to make it possible to run Android Apps and IOS Apps on Win 10 through some sort of Virtualization software. Not many details on that yet and probably more than a year away. Also interesting is that Windows OS is in 4th place for MS revenues. Clouds services are #1. So MS strategy is trying to get Win 10 on more devices so that more users will be exposed to their services and other revenue sources. The same strategy used by Android (Google) and IOS (Apple mobile). Also of interest to some is popular Office Apps such as Word, Excel, One Note, Power Point and recently added Outlook apps are now available for FREE on IOS and Android. There is also an on-line version of Office for free as well, but you need a free MS account.
Probably upgrading
One windows box on the network, which supports industrial/production applications. It runs XP, as it has for years. It sits behind a firewall with very limited access to the outside world.
Will probably upgrade it to Windows 7, but can't see going to 8 or 10 -- which would probably require new hardware.
Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows
Cloud services?
One definition of "cloud" is Couldn't Locate Our User's Data...
But really, there's no such thing as "the cloud" -- it's just someone else's computer.
Try substituting "on someone else's computer" for "in the cloud" and see how that sounds--
"We store all the company's mission critical information on someone else's computer."
"Oh, don't worry -- all those pictures are secure; they're only stored on someone else's computer."
"We control access to that information by storing it on someone else's computer."
To me at least, that doesn't sound quite as good...
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Win 7 is good 'til 2022,
extended support ends in mid January 2020.
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My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false?
Upgrade will be delivered through Windows Automatic Update. Just like other OS upgrades, Murphy's law will probably take effect. Get a professional help if you don't know what you're doing. You can do it yourself otherwise.
W8
Just bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and can not stand the desktop. Did not take me long to find a program so all my programs, control panel etc are all like in Windows 7.
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Progress??
Just bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and can not stand the desktop. Did not take me long to find a program so all my programs, control panel etc are all like in Windows 7.
I have to admit that I'm not overly pleased with Windows 8.X. But I think discomfort is often the price that is paid for progress. I was quite comfortable using XP and saw no reason to go to the 8.X format. And as I get older, change becomes less necessary to me.
But as everything moves to multiple mobile platforms (smartphone, tablet, etc.) it is probably easier to drag the luddites forward rather than retrograde new applications.
I'll wait until Win 11.1
... and a good hardware reason to match that O.S.
I despise 8.1. WHY did they
I despise 8.1. WHY did they make idiotic changes such as the ESC key no longer backing out of apps? Yes, I know there is no ESC key on phones, etc. but they didn't need to remove that functionality that has been in place for eons.
I don't need a freaking touch interface on my computer. We have 2 desktops with Win 7 Pro, one laptop with Win 7 Pro, and one laptop with Win 8.1. Guess which one gets the least use...
If I want a mobile "experience" both of us have tablets and smart phones. I don't need "tiles" with constant updates for crap I don't use and don't care about at all.
I don't know how Windows 10 is going to be but I don't anticipate liking it.
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It customizes itself
One thing 10 does is customize itself for the type of device you install it on.
On an older desktop it works as a desktop system.
On a touchscreen computer it acts accordingly.
Same idea for tablets and cell phones.
It does a pretty good job of operating like you need it for your device.
Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
Windows 8.1 Start menu
This link will let you download the start menu that you are familiar with for W 8.1 FREEEEEEEEE
http://download.cnet.com/Start-Menu-8/3000-2072_4-75852660.h...
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This link will let you download the start menu that you are familiar with for W 8.1 FREEEEEEEEE
http://download.cnet.com/Start-Menu-8/3000-2072_4-75852660.html
I wouldn't trust that executable(sm8-setup.exe). It is considered a potentially unwanted program (PUP), adware or a suspicious software.
I'm in unless it's a nightmare for early adapters
I bought a Windows 7 machine that had $10 upgrade to 8.0 which was updated to 8.1. Intention is let Windows 10 settle in before I update. Unless there's substantial problems by early adopters, I'll get curious and just do it. Microsoft has not had their OS act together since Win 7, maybe they'll get it right this time.
Agree
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I'll put it on a second SSD. I understand it's free for life, and not a subscription-based OS, so bonus for us users.
IF it turns out to be subscription-based, I'll use it for the year and *poof*. Deleted.
Win 7 is good 'til 2022, if all else fails. Or, I'll go to a Linux distro.
If W10 is anything like W8 then when W7 is obsolete - somehow, someway I'll figure out the Linux thing...
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Will need to find...
a good replacement for the Windows Media Center since it will not be part of Windows 10.
We have a SiliconDust network tuner that lets us view broadcast TV off our antenna on any PC connected to the home network. WMC also provides an easy way for us to record the off-air broadcast. Some of us will miss WMC
Your faulty virus program
This link will let you download the start menu that you are familiar with for W 8.1 FREEEEEEEEE
http://download.cnet.com/Start-Menu-8/3000-2072_4-75852660.html
I wouldn't trust that executable(sm8-setup.exe). It is considered a potentially unwanted program (PUP), adware or a suspicious software.
Bet'cha dollars to donuts that you're using either Norton or Mcafee. They are always giving FALSE results!!!!!!
The download comes from C-Net!
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Bet'cha dollars to donuts that you're using either Norton or Mcafee. They are always giving FALSE results!!!!!!
The download comes from C-Net!
Neither one of those junkware is allowed on my PC. I don't trust a lot of downloads at cnet either. I'm ok if you trust them. It's your computer.
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/fc17fbe495e003f461df8ee15...
I will wait
I will stick to my standard policy of waiting until 1 year after a new major release of Windows to see if it is any good. This policy served me extremely well by not upgrading to the Windows 8 disaster.
Too Slow!
It is also slow. Classic Shell is much better IMO. OPPS, I thought I did a quote. I was referring to W 8.1 FREEEEEEEEE.
Different strokes for different folks
Windows 7 does everything I need it to do and is running reliably therefore as far as I'm concerned I don't see a reason nor need to upgrade.
In January 2020 I figure it'll most probably be time to change computers so I'll choose the best OS out there at that given time.
The only real recommendation I can give is, if you can afford it then buy yourself an SSD and load your programs onto it, you'll be amazed on how fast it functions. I have a seperate hard drive for the contents I keep or download (Garmin maps etc) but very happy / impressed with the SSD.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
Cheers
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Windows 10..?
Just more $ money $ that Uncle Bill will be banking.
Nuvi1300WTGPS
I'm not really lost.... just temporarily misplaced!
Windows 10
I changed my desktop from Windows 7 to 8 shortly after it came out. Downloaded Start8 to add a Start button ($4.99 at the time)and ran 8/8.1 for one year. Went back to Windows 7. I will watch 10 and see what folks are saying. If it is good i will look for a way to do a clean install (reformat the hard drive). Always better than upgrades though you may have to look for drivers for your stuff(printer etc). I always remember several years ago the FBI told Microsoft we need a way to find out where a computer is located when online. Ms said ok XX millions and we will build it. FBI said build it. What else that we don't know about are they putting on there
That's concerning to me
My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false?
Upgrade will be delivered through Windows Automatic Update. Just like other OS upgrades, Murphy's law will probably take effect. Get a professional help if you don't know what you're doing. You can do it yourself otherwise.
I was hoping that the Win7>10 process would give me two options:
-do a fresh install (no preservation of Win7 device programs or data), or
-replace Win7 with Win10 keeping all the Win7 device's programs and data.
I'm thinking that I'd choose the fresh install. With the conversion offered thru Windows Update, would this be possible?
A lot of info can be found
A lot of info can be found here http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/... and if you scroll to How will I get to download Windows 10? it will give some info.
A little info I picked from the article "Windows 10 will likely release for PC first and then later in the year on devices like phones, tablets, Xbox One and more. So, yes, Windows 10 will launch this summer, but not on every screen you own".
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Not On Mine...
"Charles D 45" said in part...
Windows 10 will launch this summer, but not on every screen you own".
You're right on that. Windows 10
will never show up on any screen I own 
Nuvi1300WTGPS
I'm not really lost.... just temporarily misplaced!
I will wait
untill it is out for at least 6 months. Then I'll decide after the bugs are worked out. So far, I'm OK with Win 7.
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This Guy (Jony Ive) is likely to have a greater influence on
.. the style, design & functionality of 2019 consumer electronics products
https://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ive
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/25/technology/apple-jony-ive-pr...
than anything WinTel will be releasing in 2015.
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I was hoping that the Win7>10 process would give me two options:
-do a fresh install (no preservation of Win7 device programs or data), or
-replace Win7 with Win10 keeping all the Win7 device's programs and data.
I'm thinking that I'd choose the fresh install. With the conversion offered thru Windows Update, would this be possible?
Sorry, I don't know the details. I don't like upgrading OS. I prefer fresh install so I'm hoping there's an option to either order the setup media or download an ISO image. With the installation media, I can format and reload the OS whenever I want to. I doubt there will be an option to fresh install Win10 if the package is offered thru Windows Update. Hope I'm wrong.
That's the way I read it. It
That's the way I read it. It will be in incremental installments, based on having downloded an updated "Updater". The only Windows I run is in a Virtual Machine, so I will make a clone of my WIN7 machine and let it update to WIN10 and see what the results are.
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Free...but there are catches
Free...but there are catches depending on your apps. This version is really targeted at business and enterprise customers who refuse (for very good reasons) off Windows 7 and those few legacy locations where they have apps that will not work on anything newer than XP Pro.
MS has lost huge revenue streams when they released Win 8, and they are trying to get back into a refresh cycle when they will have customers upgrading and for those without support contracts, get back their revenue $$$.
I too have heard that the one year window (lol) allows non licensed/legitimate installations to upgrade at no charge. Looks like China is the target there.
Free
Free is good. Why not. Better than 8
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I too have heard that the one year window (lol) allows non licensed/legitimate installations to upgrade at no charge. Looks like China is the target there.
"With Windows 10, although non-genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license ... If a device was considered non-genuine or mislicensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mislicensed after the upgrade," Microsoft said in a statement.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478496,00.asp
Microsuck is at it again ...
"And upgrades to Windows 10 will be free for a year, for folks who are currently running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. There's no word on pricing after that (or for folks still running Windows XP), but if Microsoft has its way, we will have all made the switch by then anyway."
The windows 10 upgrade is only valid for users of windows 7 thru windows 8.1 and it is only valid for the first yr of its release (this we all know) so what most people dont know is that they will be moving to the cloud platform like they did with the office system. Much ado about the windows 365 to follow up to the office 365 mantra (they even copyrighted it).
This information could be vetted out by simply google searching and looking through the MSDN and Technet forums as well.
My suggestion is to wait for the 8 month mark and then get the upgrade as it will have some of the early bugs worked out by the early adopters. Microsoft says theis will be the very last major version of windows and everything from here on out will simply be updates and upgrades but the core system will remain intact as you see it now.
IMHO I personally think it is a complete waste of resources as windows 7 is pretty much the best windows OS on the planet and everything they have done so far after that is just downhill and useless. I own a small business computer shop and we deliberately do not sell nor recommend the use of anything beyond windows 7 for the PC world. Linux is really the way to go but it is not for everyone, yet.
Windows 10
I have been involved in the evaluation program and I am currently running build 10125. I have reported some issues that are being looked into but whether or not they make the cut I do not know. I like the interface better than Windows 8 but would prefer to have the start menu format of Windows 7 back. Nested items are still an issue but they could be fixed in time for the release.
I am also concerned about hardware drivers. It appears the Windows 8 drivers are not compatible so if you have an older piece of hardware that you like, you might not be able to get a driver to support it in Windows 10. I ran into this with several serial IO USB cables that the manufacturers decided not to support beyond Windows 7 (notably PL-2303). I bought newer cables to replace them and they work fine on Windows 8 but if the manufacturers decide to not upgrade the drivers then I will SOL again. Frankly, if a manufacturer decides they do not want to support a driver any longer, I wish they would open source it so those of us who know software can take a stab at upgrading it. Driver writing is black magic but it is a lot easier to upgrade a working driver than to write one from scratch.
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what most people dont know is that they will be moving to the cloud platform like they did with the office system. Much ado about the windows 365 to follow up to the office 365 mantra (they even copyrighted it).
That's a sure way to lose customers (at least home users) or a push to use pirated Windows (the version that does not grab our credit cards every month). If that is true, I finally have a good reason to switch to OSX.
This article says it's free for life:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/29/windows-1...
Who Gets Windows 10 Free?
Customers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 will get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if the upgrade is performed within one year of release.
Microsoft stresses this does not mean Windows 10 is ‘free for one year’ it means those who upgrade to Windows 10 within one year will have it free for life.
free
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I'll put it on a second SSD. I understand it's free for life, and not a subscription-based OS, so bonus for us users.
IF it turns out to be subscription-based, I'll use it for the year and *poof*. Deleted.
Win 7 is good 'til 2022, if all else fails. Or, I'll go to a Linux distro.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/29/windows-1...
Who Gets Windows 10 Free?
Customers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 will get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if the upgrade is performed within one year of release.
Microsoft stresses this does not mean Windows 10 is ‘free for one year’ it means those who upgrade to Windows 10 within one year will have it free for life.
Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 Exceptions
But not every Windows 7 or 8.1 user will get a free upgrade. ‘Enterprise’ editions of both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are excluded from the upgrade offer, though ‘Pro’ editions are included.
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I will probably download it
but same as others I will wait a few months after it is released.I like trying new things
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