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Upgrade

I'm looking forward to the free upgrade, seems like a positive move for once for Microsoft,

Nah, I'll continue with W7

Nah, I'll continue with W7 on the 3 desktops & 2 laptops.

Look at all the systems still out there on xp, humming away even without MS support.

IMHO w8 was made for a touchscreen device, and MS didn't care that it would be a sore spot for everyone else.

So,I got to wonder what was the OS w9 before it got buried?

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looking forward to it!

looking forward to it!

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I'm looking forward to seeing what experiences people have once it is released publicly.

I will probably upgrade at least one of my computers.

July 29

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Reserve Windows 10

Received the notification today to "reserve" my copy of Windows 10 to be launched on July 29th.

Interesting to see that they also list the "problems" in my setup that will not function after the upgrade or until they find a fix or driver upgrade.

Sounds reasonable ...... I guess that if the problems are major, we have a choice to upgrade or not.

They are also very clear that this upgrade is irreversible!

Based on this alone, the "reservation" is extremely useful.

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Just noticed the popup

Just noticed the popup notifation for Win 10.

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Thanks

pb46 wrote:

Interesting to see that they also list the "problems" in my setup that will not function after the upgrade or until they find a fix or driver upgrade.

Thanks. I might have missed that feature for quite some time without your report.

Two general questions (more Windows PC related than Win 10-ish):

1) My hope was to do a fresh installation of Win 10 rather than update my PC with all its programs and data. I think I've read that there will only be the "update your system" rather than a fresh installation option. My thought then is to do a system restore of my Win7 before updating to 10. Does this sound like a good plan to end with a nearly fresh Win10 computer ready to let me install my old programs—and data from my backups? Any issues (other than having to reinstall all programs and restore my data from backups)?

2) My laptop hard drive has three partitions. One is the Windows 7 Restore partition. The other two are for programs and data with my current Win 7 (one's called Acer (C): and the other is Data (D): ). Can I use some partitioning software to merge C and D (wiping everything currently on each), then let the remaining untouched Windows Restore partition install a fresh Win 7 to the new merged C: partition? Any issues or problems I should be aware of?

Suggest away. I will not hold anyone responsible if my actions result in a bricked PC. I know I can try to answer these on my own with Google search (and I probably will do this, too) but folks here at The Factory are generally so helpful and generally non-caustic rolleyes , I figure I'll ask here to start things going. Luckily, I have three Win7 PCs and I can try the Win10 update on one before trying it on the others. I also think I'll hold off for a couple/few weeks after the July 29 date before attempting my first conversion to see what others have found. Fingers crossed... smile

Maybe we Garmin folks will even have City Nav 2016.10 running on our nuvis before we start messin' with Win10. twisted Oh wait...wrong thread for 2016.xx.

you do realize

CraigW wrote:

Two general questions (more Windows PC related than Win 10-ish):

1) My hope was to do a fresh installation of Win 10 rather than update my PC with all its programs and data. I think I've read that there will only be the "update your system" rather than a fresh installation option. My thought then is to do a system restore of my Win7 before updating to 10. Does this sound like a good plan to end with a nearly fresh Win10 computer ready to let me install my old programs—and data from my backups? Any issues (other than having to reinstall all programs and restore my data from backups)?

You do realize with a fresh install you will also be required to reinstall all your applications. A backup of your data files would be virtually useless unless they could be read by the OS.

As to managing the partitions on your disk, I don't believe it would be possible to combine two partitions and leave the third. The partitioning is normally part of the drive preparation process which occurs before formatting for use.

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Windows 10

I currently run windows 7 and am very happy with it. I will do the same thing I did for Windows 8 and see what happens and if I like it.

I made a system image of my Windows 7 setup that I know is basically rock solid onto a separate hard drive. I will then install Windows 10 and use it for awhile to see if I am comfortable with it. If not, I will just reinstall the system image of windows 7.

I also have a spare computer that my kids use when they come back and visit. I will probably install Windows 10 on that computer and give it a longer test drive to see if it is workable over a longer period. My kids always want the latest "STUFF" so they will be comfortable with Windows 10 quickly. I will also have a backdoor Windows 7 system image for that computer just in case.

I am probably like a lot of folks that have been happy with Windows 7, tried Windows 8, and reverted back to Windows 7 as quickly as possible. Hopefully Windows 10 will become a better Windows 7, but that remains to be seen.

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Laptop First

I will put it on my laptop before I decide to run it on my desktop.

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Win 10

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade?oc...

I'm always going to be apprehensive. You know that Microsoft is one of the lead software players when it comes to releasing software before its time and fixing issues with it after it gets out "in the wild".?

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1) If you go with this plan,

1) If you go with this plan, make sure you backup by copying all user files/folders from D and C drive and pasting them to an external USB hard drive. This way you won't have to worry about Windows 10 backup compatibility with backup set created by Windows 7 backup utility. Copy the data back when Windows 10 is ready.

2) There are several partition utilities out there and some are free. I used partition magic long ago (in year 2000, I think). It works great. You may be able to merge existing partitions (C and D) without wiping off data.

Your other option is to do factory restore during which you look for an option to recover Win7 factory image into a single partition (C only) instead of 2 partitions during Acer factory recovery process. Keep in mind that Acer recovery management software may not offer that option.

Thanks

chewbacca wrote:

1) If you go with this plan, make sure you backup by copying all user files/folders from D and C drive and pasting them to an external USB hard drive. This way you won't have to worry about Windows 10 backup compatibility with backup set created by Windows 7 backup utility. Copy the data back when Windows 10 is ready.

2) There are several partition utilities out there and some are free. I used partition magic long ago (in year 2000, I think). It works great. You may be able to merge existing partitions (C and D) without wiping off data.

Your other option is to do factory restore during which you look for an option to recover Win7 factory image into a single partition (C only) instead of 2 partitions during Acer factory recovery process. Keep in mind that Acer recovery management software may not offer that option.

Thanks. Tip 1 is a great thought. I do have a backup of data on a WD myPassport disk and an external SATA disk backed up with the Win7 backup program, but you're right—maybe Win10 won't like the format of either or both. Having a USB with the actual data folders/files is so much more likely to be readable on Win10.

Thanks for the info.

pb46 wrote:

Received the notification today to "reserve" my copy of Windows 10 to be launched on July 29th.

Interesting to see that they also list the "problems" in my setup that will not function after the upgrade or until they find a fix or driver upgrade.

Sounds reasonable ...... I guess that if the problems are major, we have a choice to upgrade or not.

They are also very clear that this upgrade is irreversible!

Based on this alone, the "reservation" is extremely useful.

Thanks for the info about the problems that it found. I had to poke a round to look for a problem report, as mine does not show any, but it's good to know that it checked.

Got my notice pop up today on my desktop computer

MikeG1 wrote:

Thanks for the info about the problems that it found. I had to poke a round to look for a problem report, as mine does not show any, but it's good to know that it checked.

Got my notice pop up today on my desktop computer. They give a complete report as to if your computer qualifies and any apps that you now run that are not compatible with win 10.

Basically all was good except for one video player app that was installed back in 2009 that I didn't even know was there and I have now uninstalled it.

Made the reservation for the upgrade download and was very pleased that all the software and hardware I use is compatible which wasn't the case when the win 8 update checked them.

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Canada Release Date

Stories in the media indicate that Windows 10 will be released on July 29 in Canada.

I am not usually an early adaptor and I'm no longer really interested in the techie-end of things. I will probably upgrade for Christmas.

New popup for Windows 10

Just wondering is there any way of deleting it for those of us not interested ?

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Yes

canuk wrote:

Just wondering is there any way of deleting it for those of us not interested ?

Yes according the MS (I haven't tested it):

Can I turn off the notifications?

Yes. Click “Customize” in the System Tray and turn off the Get Windows 10 app notifications in the menu that comes up.

Thanks Craig

That worked, very much appreciated thank you grin

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canuk wrote:

Just wondering is there any way of deleting it for those of us not interested ?

You mean removing the nag screen? Try this
http://microsoft-news.com/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-n...

Wow

You guys are certainly good !

Thanks chewbacca cool

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Windows 10 on a Mac

I have a 5 1/2 year old iMac with 12 GB of RAM. I use VirtualBox to play with a variety of Linux releases, and now the Windows 10 beta.

If anyone comes across an article regarding Windows 10 compatibility with various models and ages of Mac hardware, please post a link.

I anticipate a BootCamp and/or a rEFInd multi-booting installation in the future.

I dismantled my Wndows XP installations when MS support ended, just to remove dangerous temptation.

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Just reserved mine on my main computer

No report of problems on my Windows 7
Will check kids computer and netbook to see if any offered.

Just saw the notification icon and imminently logged on the POI-Factory to see what all said before I saved it. You always have the information when I need it.
I did see it will download and then you can decide when you want to install it. That is a good thing.
Thanks.....

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New Browser

Those of you who have tested Windows, I noticed there would be a new browser. I use Chrome and it is linked to my Android which has Chrome. Do any of you know if the new browser will link like this to android?

How is the new browser, if anyone used it while testing Windows 10?

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If you like Windows Media Center .....

Will Windows Media Center be available in Windows 10?

Windows Media Center is not part of Windows 10 and won’t be available after upgrading to Windows 10. If you use Windows Media Center, we will alert you during upgrade that Windows Media Center is not available on Windows 10. We know that some users use Windows Media Center to play DVDs, and we are providing a free DVD playback app in Windows 10 for Windows Media Center users.

MORE FAQs here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?ocid=w...

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I reserved a copy on my Windows 8.1 laptop.

I still plan to wait to see what other users experience after July 29th.

Where do you see the problems with your computer for Windows 10

I need to know if Norton 360 and Identity safe work with Windows 10.

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Awaiting developments

john6t6 wrote:

but same as others I will wait a few months after it is released.I like trying new things

That's my attitude as well. I did this with Win8, however, and despite the complaints tried it, hated it, and yanked it out and went back to Win7. Later they said they fixed it. My attitude was I'd invested enough time in Win 8 without joy and wasn't willing to risk it again.

I'm sure I'll try 10 if the buzz is good, but I will wait several months at least.

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Problems list

Here is where I found it:
Right click on the Get Windows 10 icon, select check your upgrade status, then click on the three bar menu button in the upper left corner. This opens a flyout and under "Getting the upgrade" I have a link that says "Your PC is ready". When I click on that I get a panel that shows any issues found during the scan.

Because Mine is ready under Devices and under Apps, it shows "0 know issues found".

Hope this helps.

DL icon suddenly appeared on my start up

they must want peeps to convert over bad?

my PC ...

MikeG1 wrote:

~snip~

Because Mine is ready under Devices and under Apps, it shows "0 know issues found".

Hope this helps.

Mine has 0 issues found and one app that may not work after the upgrade.

Here's a FAQ for what the report covers as far as your computer's compatibilty with 10: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-compatiblity...

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Automatic Updates

I'll try Windows 10, but like many here, I'll wait a while and not be first in line. We have a year to get the free upgrade, so there is plenty of time.

One thing I noticed that I don't like is the loss of user control when Windows 10 (home version) updates. It will be automatic. The problem is that many times I am traveling and use a cellular connection for my laptop. If Windows does an automatic update, it could burn up a bunch of my airtime, instead of letting me wait for a WiFi connection.

There is a work around in win 7 that I know of..

Box Car wrote:

Two general questions (more Windows PC related than Win 10-ish):

As to managing the partitions on your disk, I don't believe it would be possible to combine two partitions and leave the third. The partitioning is normally part of the drive preparation process which occurs before formatting for use.

If you go to "Disk Management, find your drive and right click it for the sub menus, you will find some items called "Extend Volume and Shrink Volume.

I used this and works great, I had 1 big drive but wanted 3 separate partitions, I shrunk the big vol, then created 2 new Vol. Please note, you can only shrink the drive that has only empty space.

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And the upgrade will be

And the upgrade will be based on your current OS. If you have Windows 7,or 8 Pro you will receive the Pro version of 10, if Home version, you will receive that version and able to upgrade to the pro version for I think $99.00

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Be careful with restore partitions!

bobkz wrote:
Box Car wrote:

Two general questions (more Windows PC related than Win 10-ish):

As to managing the partitions on your disk, I don't believe it would be possible to combine two partitions and leave the third. The partitioning is normally part of the drive preparation process which occurs before formatting for use.

If you go to "Disk Management, find your drive and right click it for the sub menus, you will find some items called "Extend Volume and Shrink Volume.

I used this and works great, I had 1 big drive but wanted 3 separate partitions, I shrunk the big vol, then created 2 new Vol. Please note, you can only shrink the drive that has only empty space.

One huge caveat is that these are the restore and data partitions on the drive. Combining them in this fashion may make it difficult or totally impossible to restore the computer in case of disaster. Most computers these days give you the opportunity to create restore media, and I do hope people at least take advantage of that.

Sadly, the best option is the one that's virtually unavailable these days: a copy of the actual Windows DVD. Dell is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering one, though you have to request it.

Looking on Microsoft's pages, it appears they will be offering people who reserve a copy of Windows 10 an .ISO for download that can be used to reinstall the system even after the free upgrade has expired. The big benefit? The .ISO can be used to clean install Windows 10 without having to install the prior OS first.

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It's going to be a monster

It's going to be a monster disappointment like every other copy. It just simply isn't intuitive and there should be little to no learning curve these days for these programs, any OS, I run them all but mom and pop should be able to open and use with no issue

can already do this

BCruzer wrote:

It was also mentioned on the show that MS is planning to make it possible to run Android Apps and IOS Apps on Win 10 through some sort of Virtualization software. Not many details on that yet and probably more than a year away.

Not sure about the IOS part, but you can already run Android apps on a Windows machine using an Android emulator like Bluestacks - which is available for free.

skeptical

With the focus on mobil platforms, Win 8 experience, I am very skeptical that Win 10 will be good for desktop / normal laptop devices.

Win 7 has been super- extremely stabile, works well - kind of like XP was. I'm going to sit tight and learn more about Win 10. Win 10 needs to prove it is better than Win 7 for me to upgrade. If it is just another attempt to make my desktop more like a phone - no thanks.

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Windows 10

If somebody already mentioned this i overlooked it. Read this week Windows 10 will be the last "Version". But they will have updates more often. The thinking is to make it play nice with Android and other platforms and apps. You won't have to ask what version are you running after a while.My concern is how much spyware ( gov or otherwise) will be in it. I know Google already has more info on us than we know about. I will most likely do a clean install of 10. Ms said after i got a cheap copy of Win 8 from them that the version i had was not meant to do a clean install. No time flat somebody had detailed instructions on doing a clean install with it. Ran it for one year and back to 7

My problems

MikeG1 wrote:

Here is where I found it:
Right click on the Get Windows 10 icon, select check your upgrade status, then click on the three bar menu button in the upper left corner. This opens a flyout and under "Getting the upgrade" I have a link that says "Your PC is ready". When I click on that I get a panel that shows any issues found during the scan.

Because Mine is ready under Devices and under Apps, it shows "0 know issues found".

Hope this helps.

I did this and it said:
"These apps won't work correctly after the upgrade"
Norton 360 and HP Movie Store

I have used Norton for years. It is on all of my devices. I am hooked on it and love it. This sounds like they will not let you use Norton..... I may not be getting the upgrade.

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Agreed

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Sadly, the best option is the one that's virtually unavailable these days: a copy of the actual Windows DVD. Dell is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering one, though you have to request it.

My PCs come from directron.com and they all have Windows DVDs. I used to build my own, but they do it better and cheaper. They will do everything custom or select from many planned configurations on their site. All this is at reasonable cost.

dobs108 smile

Win10 upgrade "Pre Reserve" Offer

I got a notification on my toolbar yesterday and when I clicked it, it was a notification from Microsoft with an offer to pre-reserve a copy of Windows 10. The only issue was in the fine print which advised it will be downloaded and installed automatically when it's released. So beware if this is not your preference.

It's receiving good reviews from independent sources out there. Brings forward some of the Win7 features that were left behind and makes better use and enriches the touch interface. I just replaced my old laptop and made a direct leap from XP to 8.1 on the new one. It actually has been an easy transition for me... much more so than I expected. I got a touch screen which I didn't think I'd really care for or use, but I actually like it. I find myself making a seamless switch between the mouse, keyboard and touch screen as I work. YMMV!

I usually wait a while before taking these upgrades. An amazing amount of bugs and other issues usually get fixed with releases very soon after the intro.

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Good Read

This is a good read by a guru that I follow and trust

https://askleo.com/is-this-get-windows-10-icon-legitimate/

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williston wrote:

The only issue was in the fine print which advised it will be downloaded and installed automatically when it's released. So beware if this is not your preference.

Installation is not automatic.

2. Install
You'll get a notification after Windows 10 is downloaded to your device. Install it right away or pick a time that's good for you.

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/get_window...

Doubt it

johnm405 wrote:

My understanding is the upgrade is free, but you need to take it to some one to have it installed, which will cost money. Is this true or false? question

Don't know for sure, but I very much doubt it. I understand it will automatically download to your computer -- if you register.

NOT sure what to do if Windows 10 turns out to be buggy.

Thank you

I misread or misinterpreted the "Install it right away" piece. I'll probably still hold off taking it until the offer is about to expire. Initial WinOS releases always have strange initial issues that never seem to be discovered until they go out to the real world. (In fairness, a phenomenon doesn't seem to be limited to just Microsoft.) rolleyes

chewbacca wrote:
williston wrote:

The only issue was in the fine print which advised it will be downloaded and installed automatically when it's released. So beware if this is not your preference.

Installation is not automatic.

2. Install
You'll get a notification after Windows 10 is downloaded to your device. Install it right away or pick a time that's good for you.

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/get_windows_10_1.png

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And IT"S FREEEEEE! FREE I

And IT"S FREEEEEE!

FREE I tell you. ---it's FREEEEEEE.

yeah, right......

computerperson wrote:

And IT"S FREEEEEE!

FREE I tell you. ---it's FREEEEEEE.

Yes, that's the scary part. I've been working with, installing, & repairing PC's for a living since the PS2 came out. I can't ever remember MS "giving" anything away for free.

Whenever I hear free, I make sure my wallet is in a save place & my hand is securely on it.

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KenSny wrote:

Yes, that's the scary part. I've been working with, installing, & repairing PC's for a living since the PS2 came out. I can't ever remember MS "giving" anything away for free.

Whenever I hear free, I make sure my wallet is in a save place & my hand is securely on it.

I guess you've never been to MS events where they give away promotional and fully functional software. In 2009, I got a free promotional 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate when it was introduced. That's what I'm using now. If I'm not mistaken MS offers a lot of free software for developers.

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