Garmin North American 2016.10 Map Update

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This may be closer to the truth than we think..... Or Garmin really broke GE AGAIN with one of these recent (multiple) updates.

Maybe we will have another 4 month gap between releases.

I wonder if Garmin's automatic update notification works for anyone. I signed up for 1) automatic update notification and 2) marketing crapola from Garmin. Needless to say, only the marketing crapola works. Three or four times I called support to fix the update notification. They always 1) found nothing wrong and 2) they "did it again" hoping to fix it.

I signed up for this years ago and have signed up again many times but never get a notification. Horribly unreliable.

Automatic it is, but only if you don't update for a month or so after the release. I think that's intentional.

I got an email after not updating for over a month after a release. I didn't update because of complaints about the routing logarithms.

If they emailed everybody the day the maps came out, can you imagine how bad the server would be swamped?

something must certainly be up but unfortunately we can speculate all we want & in the end we'll never know why

I signed up for email updates when new maps come out many, many, years ago for my 660, and, when I bought the 2689 and registered it, I did same again....
I can honestly say that, other than emails informing me of new products or sales, I have NEVER been informed when a new map or any other support software or firmware update...

$.02

Seems like I've had the update to Here map for a long time. I thought it was the same map. Garmin is trying to stay competitive with smart phone nav apps but taking longer to release a map update doesn't help their cause.

Looks like another delayed release, which I suspect is delayed on purpose.

Why does everyone here think Garmin is adhering to some past schedule? They are not saying we are going to get quarterly updates, or any other guaranteed number of updates per year.

Let's just "hope" they are twice a year, we might have to be satisfied with that.

why is it these company's cant tell the consumers anything !
im waiting on Verizon for an android update " its really late and there not telling anybody reason " Garmin is doing the same thing to bad we couldn't find a way to hold payment back with out an excuse and see how they like it, there is no shame in saying we found a defect in the soft ware and we are trying to fix it ! but I get the impression their saying you will get it when we feel like giving it to you ! rant finished

Better to hold back an update than to release it with serious problems. Garmin has had their share of problems since they published the 2016.10 manifest ... the failed time zone map, a problem with epix devices losing all data, the ongoing issues with Garmin Express on various devices, and who knows what else. Maybe they are holding the map update until their customer support folks can get their heads above water because of these other problems.

On that same course of thought you have - maybe the updates will come once a year, or maybe once every two years...or gosh, maybe once every 5 years. Don't you think it would be nice if Garmin [at least] told their customers what they can expect?

Well all that is, or maybe, true but since the Europe maps seem to remain on a fairly regular 4 a year basis I doubt very much that they will have one map update schedule of us and one for the folks in Europe.

Please. How spoiled. Companies don't need to be nice. We will continue to wait, just as they expect us to.

I would bet that a whole lot of people never update at all. It used to be easy, go online, Garmin dashboard & get updated. Garmin made it more complicated now. GE & all it entails put a lot of non techies off.

I have 3 friends that I update for because they can't be bothered with all the new release problems. This stuff should be getting easier, not more complicated.

True.

I've also been signed up for alerts for over 5 years & have never been advised there was a new map update.

I. Never received a notice of an update, ever.

In a land far away I received a message that an update was available.

Two weeks after the update was actually available however.

They more than likely do the message after the release to prevent their servers from being overloaded. My 2 cents. Most software companies do the same.

Well I expect that this thread will be up to 13 - 14 pages by the time I return and no updated map yet.
When it comes out I'll have to instruct my daughter how to do the update.

BTW: I'm taking my ancient 855 with me with Europe 2010.10 on a SD card. I highly doubt that there will be many changes in the places I will be visiting.

Twice a year would be plenty... Then people would only have to worry twice a year instead of four times a year when the releases will be... Come on. There are more important things is life than worrying about a map update...

Your assuming we have a life

I'll bet there are many of us hoping for an update prior to a:
1. Vacation
2. Weekend trip
3. Retirement

or, ALL of above!!!

And, a new map would be something else to try!

$.02

Still waiting for the new and improved version.

just checked my GE and it was up to date that's scary it been at least a week since the last update hmmm

Let's start a new thread speculating when the next GE update will be, how many fixes it will contain, what it's color will be and on and on.

Perhaps Ranman53 will be so good as to provide all of us a Doctrinal Thesis decribing how many jerks are being exerted by us not receiving these ever critical GE updates on a nanosecond by nanosecond basis. With luck, the dissertation will be every bit as entertaining as the last one!

Oh... Before I get all kinds of hate mail..

jerk - (mechanics) the rate of change of acceleration

A definition every good physics student should know

Barney - very low probability of me going there. My keyboard is still recovering from the map update post.

I think this is my last Garmin GPS
No matter how good they are, I don't like their business practices.
You can't treat customers the way the do and expect people to buy their product. Can you imagine a local store staying in business acting that way?

Ok, have you tried to buy a map lately?.

Have you thought about how well a LORAN might guide you around?

Have you thought about getting a sextant?

Duplicate because of a stupid smart phone

Perhaps we should get someone to rename this thread to

Garmin North American 2016.20 Map Update

It seems almost obvious the 2016.10 version's becoming either a pipe dream or its just gone up in smoke!

It's not first time they are late. It's just kind of tradition for Garmin. Maybe they found some serious glitches in map file and postpone release. It may be better than recalling faulty map after a lot people would install it.

According to whose "schedule"?
Ours? Doesn't matter.
Theirs? Nope. When it's ready it shall be so.

And meanwhile Garmin loses more and more business to their inability to adjust to changing trends.

My phone has Gps. My tablet is wireless and it has GPS.
You would think with all the competition they would worry about customer satisfaction. I know all companies have problems, but at least they could let the customers know what is happening and not just leave them hanging.

Timantide - It's likely the PND form of GPS we've become accustomed to over the past some years are just about at the limits of their functional limits.

I don't know if the GPS in the cell phone have DirectX connectivity to satalites or if the GPS determines its location via triangulation from towers. I've never thought to try and find out. I know I've fooled around with several GPS settings in phones above 30,000 feet in the air and couldn't figure out what's it was.

But for me, the PND is better n' the nav systems in phones.. At least for the time being..

I wonder if that is the general consensus of the majority of Garmin GPS users? Or is it more likely a small group of users who are on pins-and-needles waiting for a new map update and are feeling "betrayed" that the map update is not here yet.

Come on guys. I've seen this behavior in the PC operating systems arena. The techies are all anxious for the next rumor of the next OS, and when can they get a look at it? If it isn't ready when the rumors say so then OMG. Meanwhile the rest of the world only cares about a new OS when they have to buy the next PC to replace the old one.

Companies look at big picture - how's the bottom line, and what is selling. Guess what, people still buy PNDs, but more and more Navs are built in the car, so Garmin is now pushing the personal, sports, fittness, devices more than the Auto GPS.

Just my thoughts anyway.

BTW: since your phone and tablet has GPS do they keep a regular schedule on updating tha app or the map? Do they keep you up to date on what they are doing? I doubt it.

I'm not sure but for an instant I felt I was having a déjà vu moment.

It has nothing to do with waiting on pins and needles. It is about telling us one thing and doing another.
It is like somebody from Washington telling me "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"
The ad says "lifetime maps" and then they don't put one out.
Just like a car dealer selling you a extended warranty on a car and whenever something goes wrong, they tell you "that's not covered"

The whole thing hinges on the term "LIFETIME"

Not sure what that means.

Garmin has released a map update 4 times a year since at least January of 2009. They have released one update this year and will release another one shortly as it has been on their servers for a few weeks now. Obviously they are having a problem with the data and until it's fixed they aren't about to release the update.

The ad says lifetime maps with a small symbol after the word maps. That symbol links to the exact terms and conditions of the lifetime maps feature. You can review it at http://www.garmin.com/en-US/legal/lmdisclaimer and I think you will find that Garmin has meant there total obligation in this regard. Just like your car dealer's extended warranty does if you carefully read the terms and conditions. Which none of us do.

Of course I read those very important documents...

Can I help it if I open the documents, books and other owners / operators / manufacturer warranty literature is written in
Korean,
Japaneese,
Swedish,
Spanish,
Hindu,
Russian,
French,
German
or some other language I don't understand? Takes me all of about 10 seconds to read all those documents!

Google doesn't have a regular schedule for app updates, but they update their maps on a far more consistent basis than any GPS map provider. They don't tell you about what they're doing regarding the maps, because they simply have too much terrain to cover. That's the main reason why GPS map providers don't provide change logs.

Naturally, Google is an exception because their maps are almost exclusively online. GPS apps with offline maps tend to update their maps on an irregular basis at best. It all depends on the map source.

Not yet

Not yet

Let's all pitch a fit

That, and Google doesn't have to worry about fitting their map data into devices with limited amounts of storage. Couple that with the fact they can issue updates for small sections of their data at any one time without worry about compatibilities.