I have had an 8GB card in my nuvi 765 for a while. During the 2015.1 update, I was told that the nuvi did not have enough space (having already deleted every non-english file I could) and offered to put the file on the SD card in the unit. I let it do so.
Now my 765 has used space of 2,191,175,660 bytes (2.04G) and Free space of 1,734,434,816 bytes (1.61G). The SD card has used space of 2,488,434,688 bytes (2.31 g) with Free Space of 5,451,382,784 bytes (5.07G).
While doing the map update, a Folder named Garmin was created.
I can not tell any difference in the time to load the maps.
I manually install my maps using MapInstall, rather than relying on Garmin to do it. I simply don't trust Garmin to that extent. Plus, the manual install allows me to strip French Guiana out of the map before it gets sent to my device.
That said, I find no difference in speed, except when turning on the nüvi. That may be due to the presence of other maps on my 16GB MicroSD.
-- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
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Seems to me the option of using an external card should be for *non-necessary* items such as photos, music, text, etc.
That used to be the case previously...unless you knew a few key secrets to get the map to run from the SD Card.
Older, lower memory units are still supported for Lifetime Maps but there is no possible way (unless you'd like to try your hand at unsoldering an SMC memory chip inside the unit and solder in a higher capacity memory chip) to upgrade the memory on the device.
I applaud Garmin for finally supporting the means to install maps on the SD memory card.
... but I know the process. I've used SD cards many times before in my nuvis to hold either maps or POIs.
a. I don't feel I should have to resort to it, Garmin should be making devices with enough internal storage to store their own friggin' maps;
b. last thing I need on road trip is to (accidentally) pop-out and lose the SD card. Just a precaution.
c. Seems to me the option of using an external card should be for *non-necessary* items such as photos, music, text, etc.
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
My feeling is that it would make no business sense for any GPS manufacturer to build units with the ability to contain everything a user might want to put on them. You and I were never guaranteed we would be able to take advantage of lifetime maps in the specific way that we thought it ought to be done.
While I would suggest putting a piece of tape over the SD slot - if you are really concerned that it might accidentally pop out - another option would be to choose only the map regions that you anticipate using and fit them into internal memory.
I find that I am more than getting my money's worth out of my 765. Back when I bought it, I remember buying SD cards for my digital camera and - had I bought a card with the 4G amount of internal memory my 765 had - I would have paid a heavy price for it.
Garmin has given me methods of getting the full map (although I will never need all of it for trips) that are reasonable. I am glad to have them.
I updated both my units with Map Updater using alandb cloning method without a hitch.
Bring on 2015.20, I'm ready
-- Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk
Updated my 3597 today, using MapUpdater, to 2015.10 and the gmapdem.img file is gone.
Seems to me, that MapUpdater is not fixed by Garmin in order to resolve this previous flaw.
Correct, from what I've read here, Garmin Express now--it didn't at first--will update City Navigator without losing the DEM map but GarminMapUpdater still deletes it.
After updating GE to the latest version and installing map 2015.10 my zumo will not longer boot Just turns on, gets as far as loading maps.... and turns off. if connected to computer it will reboot and the cycle is endless
I postponed the map update for one week, because of the problems posted in this excellent forum. The CN NA 2015.10 Mapupdate did not install the maps on the computer and it removed the 3D terrain files from the device.
After reading the news here, that Garmin resolved these problems, I decided to update the maps of my 3790 and 3597 using the MapUpdater.
After this map update the gmapdem.img file disappeared from both devices. Now as I learned, Garmin did not fix the problems on the MapUpdater and in order to recover the 3D terrain feature I have to re-install these maps using the Garmin Express.
I do not have GE on my computer and not interested to install it, after reading the problems associated with it.
The two devices were the top of the line (and expensive) units when I purchased them. Garmin's description included the 3D terrain view, as a feature, included with these devices.
How can Garmin remove this feature, which I bought and paid for?
There is something wrong here.
How can Garmin remove this feature, which I bought and paid for?
There is something wrong here.
Do I have this right, you think Garmin removed a feature that you no longer have because you refuse to use Garmin Express?
Although I agree that if Garmin is still making MapUpdater available then they should correct it to insure that the gmapdem file isn't just deleted from the GPS but it's your decission to not use GE that's keeping you from having the missing feature on your Nuvi's.
I updated both my 3790 and 3597 with Garmin Express after the correction was made by Garmin to insure the gmapdem.img file was installed and had 0 problems with the download or installation.
...Now as I learned, Garmin did not fix the problems on the MapUpdater and in order to recover the 3D terrain feature I have to re-install these maps using the Garmin Express...
Or you can restore the missing gmapdem.img file from an earlier computer backup you made.
a. I don't feel I should have to resort to it, Garmin should be making devices with enough internal storage to store their own friggin' maps;
b. last thing I need on road trip is to (accidentally) pop-out and lose the SD card. Just a precaution.
Then by your reasoning since 2014-15 cars have features you did not have on cars 10 years ago, the manufacturer should make provisions for those upgrades to be added!!!
Also you have a heck of a time trying to pull out the SD card. NO way it will fall out!
-- Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.
Has anyone managed to do this update yet using Garmin Map Updater without having to go through any other steps? It used to be a straight forward and simple, if lengthy process doing previous updates. Garmin seem to have really dropped the ball on this one.
-- Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
Has anyone managed to do this update yet using Garmin Map Updater without having to go through any other steps? It used to be a straight forward and simple, if lengthy process doing previous updates. Garmin seem to have really dropped the ball on this one.
Looking at your inventory of devices, GarminMapUpdater should work now as desired--install to computer and device will work, install to SD when available and when needed will work, etc. The only issue now that we know about is that the DEM "topo-ish looking" map file on nuvis that have the DEM map will be lost. None of your listed devices offer the DEM map so you should be good to go. GarminMapUpdater also can successfully be used with devices that use the DEM map as long as you first make a copy of the file on a computer, thumb drive, DVD-R or whatever, then copy it back to the nuvi after 2015.10 is installed. As you've probably read, the only way right now to avoid all "other steps" is to use Garmin Express to install the map update to devices that have the digital elevation map.
As you've probably read, the only way right now to avoid all "other steps" is to use Garmin Express to install the map update to devices that have the digital elevation map.
Or use alanb's excellent procedures for "cloning" your Nuvi which appears to work just fine whether your using Garmin Express or MapUpdater. But I guess that does require some "other steps" to fully complete.
I'm glad I haven't been on the site for awhile or I would have been an earlier adopter. I've updated 2495 and pc with Map Updater v3.3.3 with no problems
Waited for all the smoke to clear and new FIOS to be installed before jumping in.No problems updating Nuv1 265 and 2597.
FiOS has been great. Reliable and fast.[/quo
Right about that.Less then 2 hrs to update my 2 units including putting on the computer. Moving from DSL to FIOS big differences.
t923347 and CraigW, thank you very much for your reply to my posting (May 22, 2014) about the 3D terrain view dissapearance from the nuvi.
I understand, that this feature is not important to many users. Your device can still navigate, without showing the mountain and valley view along your route.
I also understand, that it is possible to copy back the gmapdem.img file from your back-up (if you have one), or go through the map update process again using the GE program, in order to put back the 3D terrain view feature to your device.
Many nuvi owners do not read GPS forums, do not back-up their units. They only realize one thing: the 3D feature is lost after the 2015.10 map update.
Garmin has the right to introduce new models without the 3D feature, but the 3790 and 3597 units were sold with this feature included. Garmin should not remove this feature with a map update. The gmapdem.img file came with the device, it was never changed, or removed with the previous map updates.
Many nuvi owners do not know enough about the file structure of their units. They do not know, that the 3D feature is in the gmapdem.img file. They only know, that this feature is gone.
Garmin made a mistake with the 2015.10 map update, which resulted in the removal of the 3D terrain view feature. Few days later they corrected this mistake and revised the GE program to put back the removed gmapdem.img file, but they did not bother to correct the MapUpdater.
Do you think, that the coming future map updates will include the gmapdem.img file, in order to put back this lost feature to those units which came with 3D terrain?
None of the previous map update included, or changed the gmapdem.img file.
Garmin could make a special effort to inform users of the loss of the gmapdem.img file and provide a facility for downloading it now, much like they do for the large JCV file.
I personally think what may happen is that they will include a gmapdem.img file in the next map update and either just place it on the device being updated (replacing the one that's there now or should be there) or, with a bit more programming, have the update look for the file and if it doesn't find one, place a copy on the GPS.
The one thing that may go against this happening is if they can't figure out a way to only place the file on devices that should have it. No sense putting the file on a bunch of devices that have no support for 3D terrain. Either way, for now I'll give Garmin the benefit of the doubt and say that the file will be available in some way shape or form either fairly soon or in the next update.
Updated last night (5/23)... and now all I get is an endless loop of seeing the splash screen come up, "Loading Maps" appears in the bottom center of the screen, then screen goes blank.
Computer will not recognize the device, so I can't do anything with it... and Garmin Support is closed for the holiday weekend. Looks like I now have noting but a Zumo Paperweight.
Garmin could make a special effort to inform users of the loss of the gmapdem.img file and provide a facility for downloading it now, much like they do for the large JCV file.
I personally think what may happen is that they will include a gmapdem.img file in the next map update and either just place it on the device being updated (replacing the one that's there now or should be there) or, with a bit more programming, have the update look for the file and if it doesn't find one, place a copy on the GPS.
The one thing that may go against this happening is if they can't figure out a way to only place the file on devices that should have it. No sense putting the file on a bunch of devices that have no support for 3D terrain. Either way, for now I'll give Garmin the benefit of the doubt and say that the file will be available in some way shape or form either fairly soon or in the next update.
That information would be in the device file. It could be read and if the model uses the DEM file, include it in the download. The download time would increase only for those models using the elevation map. Of course, we could hope they check to see if it's already present before reloading, but that is all wishful thinking on our part.
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
Read my post - a 2555LM, not a 255w (which sits in a drawer).
One year old, still being sold as new in the major stores in Canada (which I know is at the very edge of the known world, but still).
Given that 90% or more of our roads lie within 50Mi. of the U.S. border, it shouldn't be that hard to squeeze us in with the Lower-49.
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
Read my post - a 2555LM, not a 255w (which sits in a drawer).
One year old, still being sold as new in the major stores in Canada (which I know is at the very edge of the known world, but still).
Given that 90% or more of our roads lie within 50Mi. of the U.S. border, it shouldn't be that hard to squeeze us in with the Lower-49.
One of your posts had the title "Both Latest Updates Successful" and I misread that to mean that you had updated both your devices when what you actually said was that you had updated BaseCamp and then used MapUpdater to put 2015.1 on your 2555.
Still, the 2555 was introduced in late fall of 2011, when Garmin was selling products with either 4G or 8G of memory. Unfortunately for you, the 2555 has only 4G. But, on the other side, it may not have cost as much as those units in the same timeframe that had 8G. That turns out to be another one of those things that we say to ourselves, I wish I had known that. As an example, I got a 765 with 4G when I could have gotten a 785 with 8G - so now I have to put the map on the SD card.
Garmin has always said that it will furnish maps for the life of the device but also says
Quote:
If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately) or if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription or other lifetime map subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.
I have watched the NA map grow as well as the junction view file. Both are valuable to me so I am willing to use the SD card to hold everything.
Still, I think it is asking too much of companies to sell us things that will accommodate (without additional payment to them) all of the bells and whistles of devices they sell several years from now.
I keep an icon for MapUpdater 3.3.3 on my desktop and when it's time for another map update, I use it (to the exclusion of Garmin Express) to do the install. And along the way, I never even touch any Garmin Web page because there's absolutely no need to.
Anyway, tonight was the night. I kicked off MapUpdater, it told me that 2015.10 was available, I selected all of North America, and away it went. Three hours and a little bit later it had completed. (The time included the extra 15 minutes needed to copy the large JCV over from my laptop to the 1450.)
The only thing that MapUpdater installs to the SD card (drive F:) is the map itself; everything else is on the E: drive. I put the large JCV file in the JCV folder on drive E:, too. Plenty of room left on both E: and F:.
Phil
-- "No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Updated all 3 units last night with GE and also installed map to the SD card via GE on 2 units. Had it install a map to the desktop PC and that worked fine also. Checked all units for missing files, etc. No problems found.
I deleted BaseCamp as soon as everything was completed, so I don't know if they ever fixed the DLL problem or not. I only use MapSource as a reference anyhow, no need for anything more on that PC.
-- I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map. About fifteen minutes into the download it stops, saying "error downloading". Using the latest Garmin Express, disabling virus and firewall software, power options set to never go to sleep. Anyone else still having problems?
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map. About fifteen minutes into the download it stops, saying "error downloading". Using the latest Garmin Express, disabling virus and firewall software, power options set to never go to sleep. Anyone else still having problems?
I suggest switching to GarminMapUpdater for your nuvi 1450. Download it from:
Note that if you have a newer nuvi that offers an additional Digital Elevation Map (DEM), you will want to have a copy of its file (gmapdem.img) saved to your computer in case it gets deleted during the update process. This isn't an issue for the 1450.
Also, if you're updating your nuvi 1450, I suggest buying and installing an 8GB SD card in the nuvi before starting the update. The updater will offer to install the largest map for you to the SD card for use in your nuvi--if you let the map update to the nuvi itself, you'll have to choose a smaller map. Also, the extra space on the SD card will let you, if desired, switch from the default tiny Junction View file to the Large JCV file.
I've not had an issue leaving my antivirus and internet security software running during the update, but you have done well making sure not to let the computer sleep during the update.
I downloaded the map updater, however I get the error: Product Key Not Valid. I have logged into my account at Garmin and the 2015.10 is not showing in the Map Updates section. Any thoughts from here?
I downloaded the map updater, however I get the error: Product Key Not Valid. I have logged into my account at Garmin and the 2015.10 is not showing in the Map Updates section. Any thoughts from here?
Just to confirm what you did, is this how you looked for and found your Product Key:
When GarminMapUpdater brings up the window offering to sell you a map, exit, or enter a code, click:
I would like to enter a product key
Then click the Garmin.com link in the window to open your browser. With the GPS attached, click Automotive, then Find Map Update, then Device Content. Your product key (mine was 8 letters, all caps) will be displayed. Close the browser window, then paste the product key into GMU and let the download begin.
GMU 3.3.3 with a code will now let GMU offer the new map update.
Note that the code needed is probably a short 8-character code, and is not the unit ID, SN, map unlock code or anything else. I did find it and succeeded in using GMU to update my GPS to 2015.10.
t92... also found that the code can be found using this method:
Login into my.garmin.com
Select myMaps
On the myMaps page click Details beside the device you want to update.
The Maps Download page will appear
Scroll to the bottom of the page and the 2015.10 entry should be listed.
The CODE you need is under CODE and is in the format XXXXXXX1
Copy that code number and use it in MapUpdater after you click on the small print on the MapUpdater screen that reads "I have a Product Code" or something like that.
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map...
See my comments three entries before yours. I have a 1450 with an 8 GB SD card and I always use MapUpdater and never have issues. I kick off MapUpdater from my desktop, never go a Garmin Web site for anything, and never have a problem installing new maps. Just sayin'.
Phil
-- "No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Finally took the plunge and updated my 2555 and 1490 this week end using Garmin Map Updater ver 3.3.3 and all went well apart from the time, over 3 1/2 hours each unit. Now to see if I can spot the difference.
-- Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
I wonder how long it will take Garmin to notify all the users with open tickets that a correction is available. I got a response that said "Known problem, We are working on it." When will I get a notice "Fixed, Update now"?
Wow, I decided to install the new 2015 maps. I used the Garmin Express. It had 3 updates that I needed for my 2555. I selected install ALL. I was waiting for the download to complete and decided to come to the forum as it downloaded. I was surprised to see how many people was having a problem, therefore, I got nervous that I might have a problem as well. The download finished and it installed the new maps without any issues. I was wondering if you guys are updating your firmware first. good Luck to all...
Speed Difference?
I have had an 8GB card in my nuvi 765 for a while. During the 2015.1 update, I was told that the nuvi did not have enough space (having already deleted every non-english file I could) and offered to put the file on the SD card in the unit. I let it do so.
Now my 765 has used space of 2,191,175,660 bytes (2.04G) and Free space of 1,734,434,816 bytes (1.61G). The SD card has used space of 2,488,434,688 bytes (2.31 g) with Free Space of 5,451,382,784 bytes (5.07G).
While doing the map update, a Folder named Garmin was created.
I can not tell any difference in the time to load the maps.
I manually install my maps using MapInstall, rather than relying on Garmin to do it. I simply don't trust Garmin to that extent. Plus, the manual install allows me to strip French Guiana out of the map before it gets sent to my device.
That said, I find no difference in speed, except when turning on the nüvi. That may be due to the presence of other maps on my 16GB MicroSD.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
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Seems to me the option of using an external card should be for *non-necessary* items such as photos, music, text, etc.
That used to be the case previously...unless you knew a few key secrets to get the map to run from the SD Card.
Older, lower memory units are still supported for Lifetime Maps but there is no possible way (unless you'd like to try your hand at unsoldering an SMC memory chip inside the unit and solder in a higher capacity memory chip) to upgrade the memory on the device.
I applaud Garmin for finally supporting the means to install maps on the SD memory card.
nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area
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... but I know the process. I've used SD cards many times before in my nuvis to hold either maps or POIs.
a. I don't feel I should have to resort to it, Garmin should be making devices with enough internal storage to store their own friggin' maps;
b. last thing I need on road trip is to (accidentally) pop-out and lose the SD card. Just a precaution.
c. Seems to me the option of using an external card should be for *non-necessary* items such as photos, music, text, etc.
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
My feeling is that it would make no business sense for any GPS manufacturer to build units with the ability to contain everything a user might want to put on them. You and I were never guaranteed we would be able to take advantage of lifetime maps in the specific way that we thought it ought to be done.
While I would suggest putting a piece of tape over the SD slot - if you are really concerned that it might accidentally pop out - another option would be to choose only the map regions that you anticipate using and fit them into internal memory.
I find that I am more than getting my money's worth out of my 765. Back when I bought it, I remember buying SD cards for my digital camera and - had I bought a card with the 4G amount of internal memory my 765 had - I would have paid a heavy price for it.
Garmin has given me methods of getting the full map (although I will never need all of it for trips) that are reasonable. I am glad to have them.
2015.10
I updated both my units with Map Updater using alandb cloning method without a hitch.
Bring on 2015.20, I'm ready
Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk
Correct
Updated my 3597 today, using MapUpdater, to 2015.10 and the gmapdem.img file is gone.
Seems to me, that MapUpdater is not fixed by Garmin in order to resolve this previous flaw.
Correct, from what I've read here, Garmin Express now--it didn't at first--will update City Navigator without losing the DEM map but GarminMapUpdater still deletes it.
2015.10 update bricked my Zumo 660
After updating GE to the latest version and installing map 2015.10 my zumo will not longer boot
Just turns on, gets as far as loading maps.... and turns off. if connected to computer it will reboot and the cycle is endless 
...
Thanks for the info!
Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)
Frustrated
I postponed the map update for one week, because of the problems posted in this excellent forum. The CN NA 2015.10 Mapupdate did not install the maps on the computer and it removed the 3D terrain files from the device.
After reading the news here, that Garmin resolved these problems, I decided to update the maps of my 3790 and 3597 using the MapUpdater.
After this map update the gmapdem.img file disappeared from both devices. Now as I learned, Garmin did not fix the problems on the MapUpdater and in order to recover the 3D terrain feature I have to re-install these maps using the Garmin Express.
I do not have GE on my computer and not interested to install it, after reading the problems associated with it.
The two devices were the top of the line (and expensive) units when I purchased them. Garmin's description included the 3D terrain view, as a feature, included with these devices.
How can Garmin remove this feature, which I bought and paid for?
There is something wrong here.
Garmin 660, 775, 3790, 3597 and ecoRoute HD.
Do I
How can Garmin remove this feature, which I bought and paid for?
There is something wrong here.
Do I have this right, you think Garmin removed a feature that you no longer have because you refuse to use Garmin Express?
Although I agree that if Garmin is still making MapUpdater available then they should correct it to insure that the gmapdem file isn't just deleted from the GPS but it's your decission to not use GE that's keeping you from having the missing feature on your Nuvi's.
I updated both my 3790 and 3597 with Garmin Express after the correction was made by Garmin to insure the gmapdem.img file was installed and had 0 problems with the download or installation.
Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.
Got it!
Got it!
Garmin c340, Nuvi 350, Nuvi 765T, Nuvi 2360LMT
...or
...Now as I learned, Garmin did not fix the problems on the MapUpdater and in order to recover the 3D terrain feature I have to re-install these maps using the Garmin Express...
Or you can restore the missing gmapdem.img file from an earlier computer backup you made.
Reasoning
a. I don't feel I should have to resort to it, Garmin should be making devices with enough internal storage to store their own friggin' maps;
b. last thing I need on road trip is to (accidentally) pop-out and lose the SD card. Just a precaution.
Then by your reasoning since 2014-15 cars have features you did not have on cars 10 years ago, the manufacturer should make provisions for those upgrades to be added!!!
Also you have a heck of a time trying to pull out the SD card. NO way it will fall out!
Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.
Any Joy
Has anyone managed to do this update yet using Garmin Map Updater without having to go through any other steps? It used to be a straight forward and simple, if lengthy process doing previous updates. Garmin seem to have really dropped the ball on this one.
Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
It should work for you
Has anyone managed to do this update yet using Garmin Map Updater without having to go through any other steps? It used to be a straight forward and simple, if lengthy process doing previous updates. Garmin seem to have really dropped the ball on this one.
Looking at your inventory of devices, GarminMapUpdater should work now as desired--install to computer and device will work, install to SD when available and when needed will work, etc. The only issue now that we know about is that the DEM "topo-ish looking" map file on nuvis that have the DEM map will be lost. None of your listed devices offer the DEM map so you should be good to go. GarminMapUpdater also can successfully be used with devices that use the DEM map as long as you first make a copy of the file on a computer, thumb drive, DVD-R or whatever, then copy it back to the nuvi after 2015.10 is installed. As you've probably read, the only way right now to avoid all "other steps" is to use Garmin Express to install the map update to devices that have the digital elevation map.
Thanks
Thanks CraigW, going to try the update tomorrow night.
Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
Or
As you've probably read, the only way right now to avoid all "other steps" is to use Garmin Express to install the map update to devices that have the digital elevation map.
Or use alanb's excellent procedures for "cloning" your Nuvi which appears to work just fine whether your using Garmin Express or MapUpdater. But I guess that does require some "other steps" to fully complete.
Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.
No problems
Waited for all the smoke to clear and new FIOS to be installed before jumping in.No problems updating Nuv1 265 and 2597.
Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.
No problem on 2495 and pc
I'm glad I haven't been on the site for awhile or I would have been an earlier adopter. I've updated 2495 and pc with Map Updater v3.3.3 with no problems
FiOS
Waited for all the smoke to clear and new FIOS to be installed before jumping in.No problems updating Nuv1 265 and 2597.
FiOS has been great. Reliable and fast.
Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2021.20 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold
Right
Waited for all the smoke to clear and new FIOS to be installed before jumping in.No problems updating Nuv1 265 and 2597.
FiOS has been great. Reliable and fast.[/quo
Right about that.Less then 2 hrs to update my 2 units including putting on the computer. Moving from DSL to FIOS big differences.
Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.
t923347 and CraigW, thank
t923347 and CraigW, thank you very much for your reply to my posting (May 22, 2014) about the 3D terrain view dissapearance from the nuvi.
I understand, that this feature is not important to many users. Your device can still navigate, without showing the mountain and valley view along your route.
I also understand, that it is possible to copy back the gmapdem.img file from your back-up (if you have one), or go through the map update process again using the GE program, in order to put back the 3D terrain view feature to your device.
Many nuvi owners do not read GPS forums, do not back-up their units. They only realize one thing: the 3D feature is lost after the 2015.10 map update.
Garmin has the right to introduce new models without the 3D feature, but the 3790 and 3597 units were sold with this feature included. Garmin should not remove this feature with a map update. The gmapdem.img file came with the device, it was never changed, or removed with the previous map updates.
Many nuvi owners do not know enough about the file structure of their units. They do not know, that the 3D feature is in the gmapdem.img file. They only know, that this feature is gone.
Garmin made a mistake with the 2015.10 map update, which resulted in the removal of the 3D terrain view feature. Few days later they corrected this mistake and revised the GE program to put back the removed gmapdem.img file, but they did not bother to correct the MapUpdater.
Do you think, that the coming future map updates will include the gmapdem.img file, in order to put back this lost feature to those units which came with 3D terrain?
None of the previous map update included, or changed the gmapdem.img file.
Garmin 660, 775, 3790, 3597 and ecoRoute HD.
Garmin
Garmin could make a special effort to inform users of the loss of the gmapdem.img file and provide a facility for downloading it now, much like they do for the large JCV file.
I personally think what may happen is that they will include a gmapdem.img file in the next map update and either just place it on the device being updated (replacing the one that's there now or should be there) or, with a bit more programming, have the update look for the file and if it doesn't find one, place a copy on the GPS.
The one thing that may go against this happening is if they can't figure out a way to only place the file on devices that should have it. No sense putting the file on a bunch of devices that have no support for 3D terrain. Either way, for now I'll give Garmin the benefit of the doubt and say that the file will be available in some way shape or form either fairly soon or in the next update.
Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.
Mine too... Updated last
Mine too...
Updated last night (5/23)... and now all I get is an endless loop of seeing the splash screen come up, "Loading Maps" appears in the bottom center of the screen, then screen goes blank.
Computer will not recognize the device, so I can't do anything with it... and Garmin Support is closed for the holiday weekend. Looks like I now have noting but a Zumo Paperweight.
Frustrated....
Tom
that info
Garmin could make a special effort to inform users of the loss of the gmapdem.img file and provide a facility for downloading it now, much like they do for the large JCV file.
I personally think what may happen is that they will include a gmapdem.img file in the next map update and either just place it on the device being updated (replacing the one that's there now or should be there) or, with a bit more programming, have the update look for the file and if it doesn't find one, place a copy on the GPS.
The one thing that may go against this happening is if they can't figure out a way to only place the file on devices that should have it. No sense putting the file on a bunch of devices that have no support for 3D terrain. Either way, for now I'll give Garmin the benefit of the doubt and say that the file will be available in some way shape or form either fairly soon or in the next update.
That information would be in the device file. It could be read and if the model uses the DEM file, include it in the download. The download time would increase only for those models using the elevation map. Of course, we could hope they check to see if it's already present before reloading, but that is all wishful thinking on our part.
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used map updater 3.3.3
worked great!
etrex vista, Nuvi 350, Nuvi 650, Nuvi 750(3)
Sounds like the new map
Sounds like the new map update is working. Will give it a try today.
2555
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
Read my post - a 2555LM, not a 255w (which sits in a drawer).
One year old, still being sold as new in the major stores in Canada (which I know is at the very edge of the known world, but still).
Given that 90% or more of our roads lie within 50Mi. of the U.S. border, it shouldn't be that hard to squeeze us in with the Lower-49.
Sounds like the new map
Sounds like the new map update is working. Will give it a try today.
Me too... with GE... downloaded quite slowly (DSL)but successful nonetheless. My ISP probably has something to do with that ...
If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem quickly resembles a nail. (Maslow's Hammer)
My bad, sorry
I am wondering when you bought your 255W (how much did you spend?) whether you ever thought that Garmin's "****** maps" would ever contain all of the detail that they now do.
Read my post - a 2555LM, not a 255w (which sits in a drawer).
One year old, still being sold as new in the major stores in Canada (which I know is at the very edge of the known world, but still).
Given that 90% or more of our roads lie within 50Mi. of the U.S. border, it shouldn't be that hard to squeeze us in with the Lower-49.
One of your posts had the title "Both Latest Updates Successful" and I misread that to mean that you had updated both your devices when what you actually said was that you had updated BaseCamp and then used MapUpdater to put 2015.1 on your 2555.
Still, the 2555 was introduced in late fall of 2011, when Garmin was selling products with either 4G or 8G of memory. Unfortunately for you, the 2555 has only 4G. But, on the other side, it may not have cost as much as those units in the same timeframe that had 8G. That turns out to be another one of those things that we say to ourselves, I wish I had known that. As an example, I got a 765 with 4G when I could have gotten a 785 with 8G - so now I have to put the map on the SD card.
Garmin has always said that it will furnish maps for the life of the device but also says
If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately) or if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription or other lifetime map subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.
I have watched the NA map grow as well as the junction view file. Both are valuable to me so I am willing to use the SD card to hold everything.
Still, I think it is asking too much of companies to sell us things that will accommodate (without additional payment to them) all of the bells and whistles of devices they sell several years from now.
MapUpdater did the trick (like always)
I keep an icon for MapUpdater 3.3.3 on my desktop and when it's time for another map update, I use it (to the exclusion of Garmin Express) to do the install. And along the way, I never even touch any Garmin Web page because there's absolutely no need to.
Anyway, tonight was the night. I kicked off MapUpdater, it told me that 2015.10 was available, I selected all of North America, and away it went. Three hours and a little bit later it had completed. (The time included the extra 15 minutes needed to copy the large JCV over from my laptop to the 1450.)
The only thing that MapUpdater installs to the SD card (drive F:) is the map itself; everything else is on the E: drive. I put the large JCV file in the JCV folder on drive E:, too. Plenty of room left on both E: and F:.
Phil
"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
Updated all 3 units last
Updated all 3 units last night with GE and also installed map to the SD card via GE on 2 units. Had it install a map to the desktop PC and that worked fine also. Checked all units for missing files, etc. No problems found.
I deleted BaseCamp as soon as everything was completed, so I don't know if they ever fixed the DLL problem or not. I only use MapSource as a reference anyhow, no need for anything more on that PC.
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.
I've updated 3 Garmin units
I've updated 3 Garmin units and so far it's all working.
No Luck With The Update
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map. About fifteen minutes into the download it stops, saying "error downloading". Using the latest Garmin Express, disabling virus and firewall software, power options set to never go to sleep. Anyone else still having problems?
GMU to the rescue
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map. About fifteen minutes into the download it stops, saying "error downloading". Using the latest Garmin Express, disabling virus and firewall software, power options set to never go to sleep. Anyone else still having problems?
I suggest switching to GarminMapUpdater for your nuvi 1450. Download it from:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40555
Note that if you have a newer nuvi that offers an additional Digital Elevation Map (DEM), you will want to have a copy of its file (gmapdem.img) saved to your computer in case it gets deleted during the update process. This isn't an issue for the 1450.
Also, if you're updating your nuvi 1450, I suggest buying and installing an 8GB SD card in the nuvi before starting the update. The updater will offer to install the largest map for you to the SD card for use in your nuvi--if you let the map update to the nuvi itself, you'll have to choose a smaller map. Also, the extra space on the SD card will let you, if desired, switch from the default tiny Junction View file to the Large JCV file.
I've not had an issue leaving my antivirus and internet security software running during the update, but you have done well making sure not to let the computer sleep during the update.
Product Key Not Valid
Thanks for the reply.
I downloaded the map updater, however I get the error: Product Key Not Valid. I have logged into my account at Garmin and the 2015.10 is not showing in the Map Updates section. Any thoughts from here?
Just to confirm
Thanks for the reply.
I downloaded the map updater, however I get the error: Product Key Not Valid. I have logged into my account at Garmin and the 2015.10 is not showing in the Map Updates section. Any thoughts from here?
Just to confirm what you did, is this how you looked for and found your Product Key:
When GarminMapUpdater brings up the window offering to sell you a map, exit, or enter a code, click:
I would like to enter a product key
Then click the Garmin.com link in the window to open your browser. With the GPS attached, click Automotive, then Find Map Update, then Device Content. Your product key (mine was 8 letters, all caps) will be displayed. Close the browser window, then paste the product key into GMU and let the download begin.
GMU 3.3.3 with a code will now let GMU offer the new map update.
Note that the code needed is probably a short 8-character code, and is not the unit ID, SN, map unlock code or anything else. I did find it and succeeded in using GMU to update my GPS to 2015.10.
t92... also found that the code can be found using this method:
Login into my.garmin.com
Select myMaps
On the myMaps page click Details beside the device you want to update.
The Maps Download page will appear
Scroll to the bottom of the page and the 2015.10 entry should be listed.
The CODE you need is under CODE and is in the format XXXXXXX1
Copy that code number and use it in MapUpdater after you click on the small print on the MapUpdater screen that reads "I have a Product Code" or something like that.
DO I HAVE TO COPY
I have three GPS. Do I have to copy the DEM file from each GPS or can I use one DEM file for all three.
3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT, 60LMTHD
Try MapUpdater next time
Yesterday I spent a couple hours trying to get Garmin Express to download the latest map...
See my comments three entries before yours. I have a 1450 with an 8 GB SD card and I always use MapUpdater and never have issues. I kick off MapUpdater from my desktop, never go a Garmin Web site for anything, and never have a problem installing new maps. Just sayin'.
Phil
"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."
2597 here updated without
2597 here updated without any issues, both GE and the unit's software and map. I also updated the optional languages. Knock on wood!
You
I have three GPS. Do I have to copy the DEM file from each GPS or can I use one DEM file for all three.
You only have 2 units that use the DEM file, the 3590 and the 3790. The 2595 doesn't support 3D terrain so no need for the DEM file.
I don't know for sure that the DEM file for the 3590 and 3790 are the same, but I suspect they are.
Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.
Worked using Garmin Express.
Worked using Garmin Express.
I agree, I keep updating way
I agree, I keep updating way too early and am tired of beta testing for Garmin.
only need the one
I have three GPS. Do I have to copy the DEM file from each GPS or can I use one DEM file for all three.
Illiterate? Write for free help.
THANK EVERYONE
For replying.
3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT, 60LMTHD
No problems
Updated with no problems using Garmin Express 3.2.4.0.
Garmin Drive Smart 61 NA LMT-S
Not Yet. Illinois speed
Not Yet.
Illinois speed limits have not been updated to reflect the 70 MPH limit.
What a mess
I might just skip this update. Having enough computer problems to have to deal with my GPS unit.
ChefDon
Did it
Finally took the plunge and updated my 2555 and 1490 this week end using Garmin Map Updater ver 3.3.3 and all went well apart from the time, over 3 1/2 hours each unit. Now to see if I can spot the difference.
Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
How Long?
I wonder how long it will take Garmin to notify all the users with open tickets that a correction is available. I got a response that said "Known problem, We are working on it." When will I get a notice "Fixed, Update now"?
Wow, I decided to install
Wow, I decided to install the new 2015 maps. I used the Garmin Express. It had 3 updates that I needed for my 2555. I selected install ALL. I was waiting for the download to complete and decided to come to the forum as it downloaded. I was surprised to see how many people was having a problem, therefore, I got nervous that I might have a problem as well. The download finished and it installed the new maps without any issues. I was wondering if you guys are updating your firmware first. good Luck to all...