Nassau and Suffolk County NY Red Light and Speed Cameras - Old Thread

Thanks for the link to CBS.

dobs108

Anytime!

Had a talk with an old friend the other day - he's been involved with the Nassau County RLC program since the planning stages under Suozzi, and I asked about some of the issues we've discussed.

About the list of locations disappearing from the county web site - apparently NCPD arrested someone vandalizing one of the cameras, and he had a print out of the page to use as his "shopping list", and alluded to "other people" looking to do the same. After that, the county decided it was better not to give clowns like that an easy way to find the cameras.

Warning signs - he confirmed what was written in the article I posted, but also said the delay in posting signs was due to a disagreement with NYS DOT about which signs, or what wording should be used (I forget which he said). The county has decided to go ahead with the signs anyway, and they are being ordered and should be up before long.

Now, I've know him for 30+ years, and have no reason to doubt anything he told me, so...

Merrick Rd and Hicksville Rd (Route 107)

-73.47581,40.66673

The corner near All American Drive In

Just checked the current Redlight file and that location does not appear. Please use the below link to have it added.

http://www.poi-factory.com/camera-feedback

Apparently Suffolk County has worked out the kinks in their program. A new RLC has been installed in West Babylon in the last three weeks. I have reported it. Besides Nassau County, it looks like it is time to start watching Suffolk County too.

I should add, that unlike Nassau County, Suffolk has installed warning signs. That is how I noticed it. The new cameras are hard to see as the equipment has gotten a lot smaller.

I am grateful for the RLC POI file, so please don't misunderstand this as a complaint: Many of the Nassau and Suffolk locations are not camera'd in all 4 directions. A GPX POI file would be much more accurate and helpful than CSV.

As to creating a GPX from the CSV, it's really easy. Just use EPE to read the CSV using the default M-Column settings, tell EPE to do a replace (CTL-R), press the letter P five times so Proximity pops up in the window and key in the distance desired. Do a CTL-A to save the file as a GPX.Poi Loader will then load the file with a proximity distance in Express.

This camera has been removed.

-73.06505 40.90936 RLC - Rte 347 & Old Town Rd NY Jefferson Station poi-factory Jul31 13

A new Suffolk Camera has appeared over the weekend; NY-109 and Straight Path (CR-2) in Lindenhurst. I have reported it.

long island drivers....keep your eyes open. I've noticed that there are many camera locations that are being moved. The one in Hauppauge at 347 and old willets path has been removed. There is a new one going up in smithtown on main st and maple ave. Those are just 2 examples but there are more.

We are used to looking for new cameras but may not notice when cameras are removed.

dobs108

In June of 2013 NYS Legislators approved adding 20 Speed Cameras at School Zones in New York City.
Prior to this NY had no speed cameras, the closest was in Maryland.

Checking the latest speed camera POI it now shows 3 locations.

Speed ?? - Flatbush & Fillmore NY Brooklyn poi-factory Oct23 13

Speed ?? - Flatbush & Kings Hwy NY Brooklyn poi-factory Oct23 13

Speed 20 - (school zone) Grand Ave @20 NY Masbeth poi-factory Oct23 13

The two in Brooklyn don't show a speed limit.
The one in Masbeth is a typo, should be Maspeth.

I think it's a good idea in protecting the children and hopefully won't punish innocent drivers that adhered to the law.

The typo.

Researched the speed limits on the other two and added that to location info.

As for the NYC speed cameras. I did submit a FOIL request through their designated channels and was denied. Apparently providing me such information would be a danger to public safety.
So I'm relying on community identified cameras, pictures and local news articles to update that area at the moment.

~Angela

Angela,

Thanks for correcting in such a speedy fashion. I'm not surprised at the rejection of the FOIL request.
The childrens safety is of paramount concern.

3 new on Willian Floyd Parkway in Shirley, 1 added to Nesconset Highway and 2 removed. Sent the updates to POI Factory.

Oh my, when will it end. With all this additional revenue I'm hoping my vehicle registration fees will decrease.

I have personally observed there are operational RLC on all 4 sides of the intersection of Pulaski Road (County Route 11) and Park Avenue (County Route 35) in Huntington, NY (Suffolk County). There are warning signs on s/b Park Avenue. I can't attest to the other 3 sides. Interestingly, these signs are tall rectangular shaped, with white background (not the usual yellow background).

I have not had a chance to install this week's POI RLC update, so I don't know if this intersection's cameras are in the database. Last week's update does not have them. They were busy flashing away in each direction Saturday night. Beware.

According to Google Maps, the center of the intersection is 40.856279,-73.390571.

I am copying this to the Globe Turtle notification link as well.

Then tell us where the cameras are so we can be extra-careful at stoplights.

Or, do you mean Making Money is of paramount concern?

I have installed the latest POI RLC update and see that this intersection does NOT show up as a RLC location.

I walked past there 2 weeks ago and they weren't present. Chances are they only went up in the past week or so and haven't been entered.

When it warns up a bit, maybe I'll start blowing through that one on my bicycle...with a white tee shirt on with the bird on the back inked on with a big fat black Sharpie...

I have noted that the light at NY-109 and New Highway in Lindenhurst is sensitive to bicyclists. I observed a rider going against the light (forget the law - physics will enforce it there) and the strobes were going off every time he crossed a sensor (he tripped the one in the right lane heading east on NY-109 itself then crossed over a bit to New Highway and tripped the northbound sensors on New Highway).

Park/Pulaski is in the 11/27/13 POI update. Thank you Globe Turtle.

I saw both of these RLC in Deer Park, NY (LI)personally on 1/23/14. They are posted with the vertical rectangle white background signs. I saw the cameras for both north and south on Deer Park Ave., but I did not get the chance to see if the cross streets are camera-ed. They are just 1.1 miles apart on the same main road. Feel the love. Neither of these is in the 1/22/14 RLC file.

Deer Park Avenue intersection of Nicolls Road. Google maps center of intersection coordinates: 40.765539,-73.330925

Deer Park Avenue intersection of Bay Shore Road (on the east side), Fairview Ave. on the west side) (It's an irregular intersection). Google maps center of intersection coordinates: 40.750029,-73.324788

Yes, I am separately reporting them in the appropriate place.

I have noticed that Suffolk uses a different RLC warning sign than Nassau. Nassau uses the W3-3 traffic light sign with an W16-10aP "PHOTO ENFORCED" sign. Suffolk uses a single white "PHOTO ENFORCED" sign with a traffic light symbol. The Suffolk sign is an R10-18a which only has interim approval from the Federal Highway Administration and does not appear in the current edition of the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (see http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/interim_approval/ia12/).

Suffolk County is in the process of moving some of the RLCs to new locations. As yet, no info on the new locations. News 12 LI recently ran a story about the moves. Of course the moves have nothing to do with revenue.
Read the story here:
http://longisland.news12.com/news/suffolk-county-relocating-...

Since those Red Light Cameras in place have accomplished the goal of REDUCING ACCIDENTS in dangerous intersections, why move them?

IT"S ALWAYS THE MONEY.

Once moved, in time, people knowing they are not present will revert back running the red lights.

We now live in a fast paced society where everybody is in a hurry, many people no longer display common road courtesy.

And let's not forget that police officers in their private vehicles, as well as politicians, are exempt. That means they can run red lights to their heart's desire and not get a ticket.

I've heard that cars of family members of cops also are exempt, but I don't know if that's completely true or not.

Is this a general statement or does it apply to a specific municipality?

Being exempt and being forgiven on the site by another officer. Both are not the same... Neither are written in stone either.

I'd like to know how the person reviewing the footage and pics of a violation could ever know those committing the violation are a politician or law enforecement driving their private vehicles.
Being "EXEMPT", in my opinion, would not be an accurate statement.

Perhaps I'm not understanding, if you could offer some proof of your statement I surely would be interseted in reading.

I saw this RLC in Melville, NY (LI) personally on 2/15/14. It is posted with the vertical rectangle white background signs. The cameras are for both north and south traffic on Pinelawn Road. I did not see a camera on the cross street of this T-intersection. The flash was operational.

Pinelawn Road intersection of Half Hollow Rd. Google maps center of intersection coordinates:
40.777985, -73.405061 This is not in the 2/12/14 RLC file.

Yes, I am separately reporting this in the appropriate place.

thanks for the add

Jericho Turnpike at Elwood road westbound in Huntington.

-73.332588,40.837828

The sign is installed as well about 50 yards before the camera.

Are the RLC's in this thread covered in the overall RLC Poi file?

If so I was on Long Island yesterday and found an intersection my GPS did not alert me to.

This is not exact but as close as I can get Google to show: 40.767116, -72.996189

Phyllis Drive & Montauk Highway (aka Main Street?)Patchogue

I noticed the camera on Montauk because my BEL Radar detector alerted on it. Not sure if there is one on Phyllis as well since I was moving along with traffic and didn't get a good look.

But if you noticed it was missing in the file, report it. Can't hurt.

I did report it yesterday, just happened upon this thread this morning so I thought I'd both ask and report it here.
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On the latest RLC file (2/26/14) there are 4 RedLight Cameras in Patchogue, Phyllis Dr & Montauk Highway is not present in that file.

Thanks for reporting to Angela.

So what are you suppose to do when traffic is so backed up you can only do 20mph...!!...?

Nuvi1300WTGPS

Yes.

Thanks for finding the new camera!

dobs108

How can you find out what the new additions are each week, for example, not just a general 4 changes/new on Long Island, but specifically where each of the 4 are?

There may be an easier way to do it but this works for me.

Open the Redlight cvs file in Microsoft Excel.
1- At the very top of the file where it lists the column letters, single left click on the A and continue to column D.
2-You will see all the fields high lighted from columns A to D.
3- Now click on the "Data" button on top and choose "sort".
4- Now change from column A to column D and hit ok.

The file will now be sorted by State and Town.
You can scroll down to NY, then Patchouge, and you will see the 4 entries there.

You can save the file but a message will appear about incompatibility, just click YES and it will save the file now sorted by state. After sorting and saving the file, it will still perform properly,

Thanks for the reply, I was aware of that method. I was looking for a list of just new & specific camera additions/subtractions each week. Sort of the way when a firmware update is offered for software 'they' list what's new.

For instance, I live in the Philadelphia area, there are 108 cameras in the city covering 24 intersections (in 2013). Although I live here I am not familiar with them all. Looking in the excel file I'd have to count the number of cameras and guess which was new.

I only maintain one small POI file here at the factory. I don't know how easy it would be to offer what I'm looking for with such a large file.

That's a question for Angela. The RLC/Speed Cameras are in a database so it's possible, but if there are wholesale changes it could become cumbersome. As for me, I don't consider it essential information. I just note locations where there is an alert but I don't see a camera. Those intersections/sections I'll look at more closely the next time through but as my focus is on driving, I don't always mark the intersection for review.

There are four (4) blue "Tabs" in the upper right of this screen.

Hold down the "Ctrl" key and click on the one that says "red light cameras" This will take you to
http://www.poi-factory.com/poifiles/us/red-light-cameras

On this page, several lines below the picture of the red light camera, Angela puts the changes for the week by state. If your state has no changes you are done.

If your state has changes, then scroll down to the bottom of that page to find "links"

The second link will be "recent updates to the red light camera file" which will take you to
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1352

Here the actual changes by week are detailed.

Not exactly detailed, just a general outlook, as I mentioned before.

It's not a big deal and I have mentioned this to Angela before. I don't always have my GPS on so knowing where new RLC's pop up would be nice to know.

So far here in PA there are only two places with cameras, Philadelphia & a nearby suburban town. So narrowing down a few new cameras might not be too hard, but for a large state littered with them just a "4 new cameras" note doesn't help much.

Again thanks for the help.

They can ticket a driver for going too slow too.

Another new RLC popped up in Suffolk on Great East Neck Road at Railroad Avenue in West Babylon. That makes FOUR RLC's within a one mile stretch on Great East Neck Road. Incredible number IMHO for such a short distance.

I have reported it.

I just looked through the RLC listings for Nassau County for the first time since last October. Wow are there some mistakes. There are two RLC's listed for Glen Head that do not exist. I am also seeing many changes that would indicate RLC's were removed in Nassau and I am not aware of that happening. Fair warning to anyone relying on the RLC listings for Nassau, THEY MAY BE WRONG! Somebody has been feeding bad data it appears. I know for a fact there are no RLC's at:

Northern & Cedar Swamp(107) NY Glen Head
Wheatley & Rte 107 NY Glen Head

I just drove through those intersections two hours ago. I believe those intersections were on the county's wish list but they have never been activated. Frankly I do not know what to suggest for Nassau County at this point since there appears to be some major problems.

Right. The other location like that is Old Country Road in Westbury.

dobs108

The county's wish list has been replicated on various websites and has been repeated as gospel truth. Members who have seen these sites may have reported those locations. If we become aware of a false positive we will report it to Angela. I do not think there will be many. A false positive is not bad in my opinion.

The file as it is now is highly effective. I drove yesterday for less than an hour and passed almost 30 camera locations in Nassau. Every one was accurate.

dobs108