Garmin map update 2017.20 is out

 

The new Garmin map 2017.20 is out. Installed with GE, no problem.

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Darn!

We didn't even get to page 5 on the map release speculation thread yet, I don't think.

Just in time for the Memorial Day weekend ...

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Garmin nuvi 2597MT, 660, too many really.

Thanks

We got some work to do...

One thing to remember is that for folks who like to install to device and computer, apparently the latest version of Garmin Express doesn't offer the Install to Computer option. crying

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/46127

Downloading now

Tells me I have over 4 hours to update.
Thankfully I have not updated my GE v.4.19.1 so I can download to device and computer.

CraigW, NO I WILL not try the large JCV on my 2797 anymore, but will on the 855, LOL.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Downloading now to clone of 3587LMTHD

Thanks for the notice dysonsk. Express said it will take 2 hours and 6 minutes .. we will see. I will report back with the results when it is done.

Just finished ... took 50 minutes start to finish installing to device and computer. Incidentally, I am using Garmin Expres 4.1.21.0 and had no problem selecting the option to install to both device and computer. One thing I did notice is that the change Garmin made to Express on improving the time estimate did prevent it from jumping all over the place like it used to. But it was still way off on both the initial estimate and on updating the time left as it progressed ... it just didn't jump up and down like it used to.

I will now analyze the results and post some file sizes in a few minutes.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

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Melaqueman wrote:

Tells me I have over 4 hours to update.
Thankfully I have not updated my GE v.4.19.1 so I can download to device and computer.

CraigW, NO I WILL not try the large JCV on my 2797 anymore, but will on the 855, LOL.

As a fellow 855 owner, I'd also switch to the large JCV file if I used the 855 much. Since it's now my backup's backup device, I've gone with the default JCV file. If I did need to use the 855, I'd follow your advice. Let's hope Strephon or someone posts the large JCV soon. wink Until we hear otherwise, the current large JCV FAQ continues to state that the 2797 may not be able to use the Large JCV file.

Bummer, even with my 50MP internet, my download times are ranging from minutes to 24 hours although it seems settled into a 5.5 hour installation for now.

Odd, I have the latest Garmin Express which shouldn't let me update the device and computer due to a bug but I was able to check the device and computer box and my download is proceeding.

Downloading 2017.20 as well

Using Express to download map to Mac as well as my DriveLuxe. GE said it would take 1hr and 31 minutes. We'll see.

Yep

alandb wrote:

Incidentally, I am using Garmin Expres 4.1.21.0 and had no problem selecting the option to install to both device and computer.

Alan, from the getgo I think it works. It's if you install first to device and then try to install to PC it doesn't work.

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Is there...

A list of changes that have been applied to the map update somewhere?

It's snot a big list, rather, a list of enhancements!

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CN NA 2017.20 updated and replaced files on 3597LMTHD.

OK, here are the new files that were downloaded on the 3597LMTHD for the 2017.20 map update and timezone file update. Note that file sizes are in bytes.


\.System
593,920 gmaptz.img
623,591,424 gmapdem.img
239,644,672 gmap3d.img
2,600 gmap3d.gma
25 gmap3d.unl
2,778,988,544 gmapprom.img
2,600 gmapprom.gma
25 gmapprom.unl

\.System\ASR
69,251,074 05HPWX6Q.asr (replaces 05FBOBUQ.asr)
460,304,477 05HPWX6S.asr (replaces 05FBOBUS.asr)
452,117,438 05HPWX6P.asr (replaces 05FBOBUP.asr)
233,617,889 05HPWX6R.asr (replaces 05FBOBUR.asr)
66,949,088 05HPWX6O.srx (replaces 05FBOBUO.srx)

\.System\JCV
509,159,182 D3191200A.jcv (replaces D3191190A.jcv)

\.System\SID
429,998,004 D3157200A.sid (replaces D3157190A.sid)
159,677,230 D3398190A.sid (replaces D3398180A.sid)
607,992,066 D2656220A.sid (replaces D2656210A.sid)
132,194,319 D3406190A.sid (replaces D3406180A.sid)

\.System\SQLite
9,175,040 D3397190A.db (replaces D3397180A.db)

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

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Thanks for the info!

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Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)

Full screen full coverage (large) JCV file

I just updated a clone of my nuvi 755T ... still getting the large JCV file, name D3060210A.jcv, size 827 MB (867,517,991 bytes).

And of course I got the puny crippled JCV when updating the clone of my nuvi 855; D3153210A.jcv, 25.1 MB (26,389,098 bytes)

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

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Downloading now and also installing to computer via Garmin Express. Estimated time: 39 minutes over a 100/100 Mbps connection.

Does anyone have the full/large JCV file available for manual download yet?

GE

Since my earlier posting I have installed 2017.20 on my 2797 successfully.
Then I prepared my SD clone for the 855. Before doing that I installed GE v.4.21.1 and it does give me the option to install to
Device only
Computer only
Device and computer

That is AFTER the 2797 download where I had opted for Device and Computer.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

It will

Because its downloading the map to your 855 for the first time. It's after you've downloaded to your device that the option disappears.

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Garmin map update 2017.20

Just updated my 250W and 3597LMT both no trouble and both offered install to computer and device. Basecamp updated to latest map also.

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Successfully installed 2017.20 update using Map Updater v3.3.4

Successfully downloaded and installed the new 2017.20 map update using Garmin Map Updater v3.3.4. Worked like a charm - quick and simple!

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2017.20 update

Did the update on my desktop computer and from start of update using GE to completion of map install took only 8 minutes smile.

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GE

sussamb wrote:

Because its downloading the map to your 855 for the first time. It's after you've downloaded to your device that the option disappears.

Actually not quite so.

I installed to my 2797 first. Device and computer.
The 855 was done after and I still got all three options.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Yes

But it was the first time you downloaded it to your 855. Have a look now with either device connected, if you're running 4.1.21.0 then you won't now get the option.

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nuvi 755T and Nuvi 855 storage issues.

I have now moved the 2017.20 map files from my clone images over to the actual devices. For the first time, I was no longer able to get the full NA map with large JCV file in internal storage of my 755T. I had to put the JCV file on the SD card.

ON the nuvi 855 in order to get the full NA map and the large JCV file installed, this time I had to put both the JCV file and the ASR files on SD card. In the past, I have been able to just put the ASR files on SD and keep the map and JCV in internal storage. For the ASR folders, only the .ASR and .SRX files were moved to SD. The .SRD files were left in internal storage. I tested the voice recognition and it seems to be working OK.

Both the 755T and 855 now have about 600 MB of free space in internal storage, so this method should work for several more map updates.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

update

this is the first time I didn't have trouble with GE usually I get an error about space and I have to pull my sd card and format it, this time all went well and it took about an hour rebooted after loading just to check it out an it all worked yea.

Went easy peasy

It took me 1.5hrs to do 4 Garmins, the first one took about an hour, the other three went pretty quick..............

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2639LMT, 67LM (X2) and 65LM

No problems

Done two devices plus download to computer. One of the fastest downloads I can recall.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor - Offline Maps & GPS.

All Done

The weak link is the slow USB speed of the GPSMAP 64s when transferring the map from the computer to the device. Otherwise, it went just fine.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone 12, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Map update

Using GE, update done in less than 40 minutes.

Map Update

bkinlein wrote:

Using GE, update done in less than 40 minutes.

Hey, me too!....... Even did the computer version at the same time too.

Looks like GE does it again!

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Map Update

Guess it's time to update my trusty old 660. The longest part is transferring the maps to the Nuvi over it's old USB1 port.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2021.20 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

Updated 660 with Map update

Updated 660 with Map update (lower 49) on SD card, and POI updates & 2689 with Sofware, Map, and POI updates!

GE worked fine... Everything worked as it should....

Though on each I was prompted with 1 or more hours of time for completion, both were done in 30 min or less....

Both have been tested, and are Fine!!!

See what happens when I come back from a Trip???

Maybe I should do more trips!!! smile!

P.S. GaryA: I am doing alanb's SD card Update procedure via an SD card plugged into a PC, so I'm bypassing the USBV1 speed on the 660.

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MAP UP DATE

I did not update the last map update. Do I have to update that map before I update this new map?

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3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT, 60LMTHD

No.

rthibodaux wrote:

I did not update the last map update. Do I have to update that map before I update this new map?

A map update is a complete reinstall, so you can skip versions without a problem.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

No

Just update with the latest, I don't think you'll be offered anything else?

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Where there's a will ... there's a way ... DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20

transfer rates

I find the transfer rates on my different devices to be quite different. I always do "install to computer and device".

1450 (used to be a 1440) is very slow
1450 took about 40 mins, as expected
3597 very fast

I only updated one of these last night. No issues using Garmin Express.

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(2) Nuvi 1450LMT + 3597LMTHD + 2557LMT + DS61LMT-S Boston MA

Time to get installing again.

Time to get installing again.

Updated last night

I updated my 3590 last night. Took over 4 hours to do it. GE started and then shut down. First time it has done that. I re-started GE and the install was done in about 90 minutes. Updated the 350 just now. Took about 50 minutes with no issues. I don't know what enhancements were included with this update as I have not had a chance to play with it yet, but I have noticed that some street names that I expected to be changed were not updated. Major changes on the interstates were included, however, some of the local subdivision additions were not. This leads me to believe that the map that we are presently seeing on Here.com is not the version that is being downloaded with this update. It seems as if we might be seeing the previous map that was on Here before this last map was loaded to Here. Don't know that for sure, but it seems likely.

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Used Clone Method

I updated to the new maps using the clone method to load onto my SD card. I am running a nuvi 680. My question is do I have to remove the .img file from the nuvi now that I have one on the sd card?

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nüvi 680, 265t, 295W, iFinder H2o

Yes

Yes, if you have a gmapprom.img file on the SD card, in the proper folder, you don't need a gmapprom.img file on the Nuvi. In fact, having that file in multiple places can cause all kinds of problems.

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Thanks

Was hoping the waiting for 2017.2 thread would go a few more pages. smile

Edit: Have a time zone map update too for my 2598.

Had to reinstall the 2017.20

Had to reinstall the 2017.20 map, didn't get the jcv files, ok now...............

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2639LMT, 67LM (X2) and 65LM

I do as well on my 3790

bennor3814 wrote:

Edit: Have a time zone map update too for my 2598.

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What does "Time Zone Update"

What does "Time Zone Update" update? I didn't know time zones change :/ .........................

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2639LMT, 67LM (X2) and 65LM

Two thoughts

Chief_10Beers wrote:

What does "Time Zone Update" update? I didn't know time zones change :/ .........................

Two thoughts:

1) The time zone map is a global map like the Garmin GPS Basemap, so a change anywhere regarding map lines or start/stop dates in the world could result in a new time zone map revision:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_countr...

2) Past, recent and potentially upcoming changes to the US time zones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/us/indiana-time.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_Un...

Not to be confused with Indiana almost stating π=3.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFNjA9LOPsg

oops ...

It looks like I need to go get a bigger card ... it says my 4 GB card does not have enough room to install the full map. I am going to have to wait.

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it's the dog's fault

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gmapsup

renegade734 wrote:

It looks like I need to go get a bigger card ... it says my 4 GB card does not have enough room to install the full map. I am going to have to wait.

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it's the dog's fault

If the map file on your SD card is a gmapsupp, gmapsup1 or some such thing (not a gmapprom), it appears that the map update process does not delete the old map files and no room remains. I had the same issue with my nuvi 750 with map on SD, and I found that by deleting the files on the SD card allowed the new map update to proceed to the SD card.

I do suggest that to be safe, you backup the current files on the SD card to your computer or elsewhere before deleting the files on the SD card.

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The update installed with no problems. Thank you for the heads up!

Thanks for the notice!

Thanks for the notice!

Deleting old files

CraigW wrote:

If the map file on your SD card is a gmapsupp, gmapsup1 or some such thing (not a gmapprom), it appears that the map update process does not delete the old map files ...

No it doesn't, Express and MapUpdater before it will only delete map files that they know are safe, so files they've put there without anyone changing their names etc. After all you wouldn't want them clearing out any old map file that you might have installed smile

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Where there's a will ... there's a way ... DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20

Thanks

t923347 wrote:

Yes, if you have a gmapprom.img file on the SD card, in the proper folder, you don't need a gmapprom.img file on the Nuvi. In fact, having that file in multiple places can cause all kinds of problems.

I'll remove it. Thanks for the response.

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Pure Luck

I have not been getting here as much as I used to. With speed cameras abolished here and RLC roll outs apparently stalled, I have not checked in as much as I used to. Happened to sign in today and saw the 2017.2 is out! I guess I know what I will be doing this afternoon...

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2 Questions

I updated my three units yesterday using Alandb cloning method - Garmin Express for the 3597 & MapUpdater for both 255w.

My Windows 7 computer is set to show hidden folders and drives and I do not hide the operating system files.

When I did the download for my first 255W I had the new gmapprom.gma / gmapprom.unl and gmapprom except I didn't have the img extension on it. When I look at type of folder on the computer for the gmapprom file it's marked it's a Disk Image File and not an img file.

I renamed the above files as to Alandb instructions as I have done so many times in the past and when I turned on the unit it stated there weren't any detailed maps.

I thought I might have downloaded a corrupt mapset therefore I started over a second time. Once again the gmapprom did not have the img extension whereas the other two files had the gma and unl extensions.

I renamed all three files but for the gmapprom I did not add the img extension and left it at gmapsupp. When I fired up the unit everything was perfect and 2017.20 had been correctly installed. I did the same for my second 255W (gmapsupp without any extension) and it also worked immediately.

I've have many backups for all three units over the years and clearly remember having the img extension in the past. Today when I look at all my backups each and every backup shows the gmapsupp file without the img extension.

I'm wondering why my computer isn't showing it any longer and what I must do for it to show the img extension ? When I look at the gmaptz file the computer says it's a Disk Image File and does not show the img extension.

My second and last question is before doing the update on the 3597 I had + - 900 mb of free space. Now with 2017.20 the device shows it being in red and reads 488MB free out of 7.02 GB. I do have a second language on the unit but have deleted all other foreign languages, help files, vehicles etc and just wondering if the number showing (488) seems right for this particular model. I'm thinking with the space I have left I might have to put the next mapset onto an sd card the next time around.

Thanking you all in advance & looking forward in solving the img mystery confused

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See here

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/show-hide-file-na...

to ensure your file extensions show. I suspect without realising you renamed the gmapprom.img file to gmapprom.img.img which would explain why it then didn't work.

As for the file type being shown as a Disk image File, you can change which programs are associated with file extensions by clicking on Start then Default programs. My .img files are set to open with Basecamp.

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