loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of going back
mgarledge wrote:
My husband and I are coming around to Windows 10. If you can't beat them join them. (but not yet)
I changed the settings again on my Windows Updater and it still downloaded and installed another update last night. It was a (recommended update)
I read somewhere that Windows 10 did not allow you to turn off automatic updates. If this is true it looks like Microsoft is configuring Windows 7 to be more like Windows 10.
Has anyone else on Windows 7 tried to stop automatic updates? And if so did you have the same problem?
I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
-- Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
My husband and I are coming around to Windows 10. If you can't beat them join them. (but not yet)
I changed the settings again on my Windows Updater and it still downloaded and installed another update last night. It was a (recommended update)
I read somewhere that Windows 10 did not allow you to turn off automatic updates. If this is true it looks like Microsoft is configuring Windows 7 to be more like Windows 10.
Has anyone else on Windows 7 tried to stop automatic updates? And if so did you have the same problem?
I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
the only thing that will not run are 16 bit if you run 64 bit
mgarledge wrote:
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
The only old programs that would not work that I had before the update was one 16 bit program because I went to 64 bit on my desktop when I upgraded, if I would have installed the 32 bit windows 10 the program would have still worked as it had in 32 bit windows 7.
-- Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
The only old programs that would not work that I had before the update was one 16 bit program because I went to 64 bit on my desktop when I upgraded, if I would have installed the 32 bit windows 10 the program would have still worked as it had in 32 bit windows 7.
I think the software is 64 bit by reading stuff but not sure.
The link below has some interesting facts about upgrading Windows 10 and which bit version to install.
The free Windows 10 upgrade will be rolled out primarily through Windows Update (which is how most people will receive the update), and you will NOT have an option to choose Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit; it will automatically default to your current operating system architecture. If you plan to keep all of your programs and user data in tact, then you would want to continue on with the in-place upgrade and NOT DO A CLEAN INSTALL.
The link below has some interesting facts about upgrading Windows 10 and which bit version to install.
The free Windows 10 upgrade will be rolled out primarily through Windows Update (which is how most people will receive the update), and you will NOT have an option to choose Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit; it will automatically default to your current operating system architecture. If you plan to keep all of your programs and user data in tact, then you would want to continue on with the in-place upgrade and NOT DO A CLEAN INSTALL.
I made a bootable copy of the software while on the insider program for my Vista and my Netbook but I wasn't sure if they offered a link to make the DVD or USB with the final product.
Thanks, Mary
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
You might want to look into Apache Open Office rather than Office Home. It's free and it will look familiar to you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. https://www.openoffice.org/
If you don't like it you can un-install it and go with Office Home. All the files are compatible with each other.
You could even go ahead and install it on your current system just to check it out before you upgrade. Your current Office program won't even notice.
-- Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
You might want to look into Apache Open Office rather than Office Home. It's free and it will look familiar to you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. https://www.openoffice.org/
If you don't like it you can un-install it and go with Office Home. All the files are compatible with each other.
You could even go ahead and install it on your current system just to check it out before you upgrade. Your current Office program won't even notice.
Thanks for posting this.
I can get a free download of Office thru work, but it's all online, and my tinfoil hat isn't all that keen on it.
Another alternative to MS Office and OpenOffice is LibreOffice. It's also free and open-source and while it's very similar, it's different enough that it might include some additional features that appeal to you.
One isn't necessarily any better than the other but they each have their charms. My wife likes chocolate shakes and I like vanilla (although in that case, vanilla is actually better)...
mgarledge, get rid of NORTON's, I've been using AVG for years and I think it is far better than Norton's. I do not know if Mcafee is still around, but it was/is the pits as well.
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I downloaded Windows 10 onto my NEW 64 bit laptop to update from Windows 8 a few weeks ago without a problem. The only thing I did not like is the way you have to get into your programs. I found a program which I used to give me the Windows 7 type start. It is "Classic Start 8", free to download and use.
Yesterday I noticed that on my older Windows 7 - 64 bit the update icon let me update to indows 10 as well. It installed without any problems.
I do see though that Microsoft has changed the start-up page to be more what it used to look like. But I still find it easier to use the "Classic Start 8" program. It's much easier to get into the Control panel, Windows Explorer, Regedit, MSconfig, etc.
I will agree with Melaqueman in getting rid of Norton. Though I've used the 360 Version until Win10 and the latest will not allow side by by side with Avast. My Norton was free.
I've used AVG and a couple others. At present I prefer Avast.
Now I'm going to have to investigate the registry about Kapersky and others running running from the start. I'm seen no evidence of that so far.
I have 2 systems on Win 10 now. One hiccup on install, then cleanup of the systems about privacy. Crossed fingers about that.
There is no need for external programs for startup on single user systems to start to the desktop.
A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
As far as start screens, desktops, or whatever - different animal. Windows 10 cost me the ability to run dream scenes on my desktop.
But, I am not very trusting, I have back up hard drives that were ghosted over from freshly set up Windows 7. They are just sitting and waiting. You know, just in case.
-- Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
You're using Windows as a user with administrator permissions? Why?
when I did my windows 10 upgrade I decided to do a clean install when it was done to clean all the accumulated crap from all the installing and uninstalling . after it was all done I proceeded to install all my steam games , email , and other software when I was finished I also installed a program called startisback +
(I think it was about $3) to get as close to win 7 as I could then I set it up as to not bother me with signing in each time I start the machine . so what I have now is a machine that boots straight to the desktop and doesn't ask you to sign in it looks and act's like windows 7 the only difference is the task bar it's a little different but not much, so with a little tweaking you cant tell the difference from 7 to 10
A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
You're using Windows as a user with administrator permissions? Why?
To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I do apologize in making the assumption implicit and not explicit about using a user account. That was totally my fault.
Though I have 2 systems (totally separate) and I am the single user. I have a single user account (different on each). These are connected to the internet through separate hardware and software firewalls.
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
-- Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I thought you suggested that we must use our machine constantly as admin in order to automatically log in to Windows (without touching anything). That is not worth it.
RedRevrnd wrote:
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
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I have been waiting to hear the reviews to download it. I may just do it.
To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I thought you suggested that we must use our machine constantly as admin in order to automatically log in to Windows (without touching anything). That is not worth it.
RedRevrnd wrote:
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
I did not mean use sysadmin all the time.
I have in the past. With a very tightly controlled system and had no problems for over a year. This was with Win7. Another system with AVG on it and sysadmin, I had to re-install Win7 after about 4 months. I use Avast now.
I do experiment some with a several systems. Right now I'm starting to configure Ultimate Edition Linux on a small netbook. See how it goes. It is more restrictive just to start with.
-- Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
I have in the past. With a very tightly controlled system and had no problems for over a year. This was with Win7. Another system with AVG on it and sysadmin, I had to re-install Win7 after about 4 months. I use Avast now.
Your previous reply already cleared that up. I got it now.
I supposed you got hit by some malware and reinstalled the system after about 4 months? If I understand that correctly, that is exactly why I don't recommend using an admin account all the time. It's only a matter of time before you get hit. You can't expect anti malware to fully protect your system. Anti malware product that gives us 100% protection does not exist.
Right now I'm starting to configure Ultimate Edition Linux on a small netbook. See how it goes. It is more restrictive just to start with.
Yup, and it's that way in part for the reasons set forth above.
This is one of the reasons why you don't hear too much about viruses/malware on Linux systems. They do exist but are more the exception rather than the rule. One made headlines recently with Ubuntu Linux though, and it was the result of users modifying and weakening the security model by enabling SSH root logins AND choosing a poor-quality password.
Just a reminder that your system is only as secure as its weakest link which, unfortunately, is often the user.
i have it running on 4 computers.
the only real issue was video drivers.
I did it b4 release with the tech preview and nvidia had not released their w10 driver yet, so a couple of the computers limped along till it came out.
My HP business laptop is also a problem b/c HP is not acknowledging W10 drivers and programs like Protect tools. It is now called client tools and is available for newer models and works fine on mine - it did take some searching to find the workaround. Why HP just ignores these computers is a mystery to me.
Bottom line W10 is stable and is a welcome relief for those abused by W8. It is also not a big learning experience for W7 users but it is different so it will take a few days to figure some of it out. Some mfg, like HP, are not forthcoming with updates for older systems even though they were sold with W7 and r upgradeable to W10.
Before u try to upgrade, I would suggest finding drivers for all ur hardware. Most systems will upgrade just fine, but if u can't find the drivers MS may not either.
After u upgrade search for DONOTSPY, but I wouldn't recommend turning off automatic updates as the default config will do, but I would recommend setting W10 to ASK YOU to reboot when installing updates.
I would also do an image of ur W7 system using Macrium Reflect free just in case. Great program, works well and simple to use. Requires an external hard drive to save the file onto.
Once u r happy with W10 install, image that also. Much easier to recover with an image than a total reinstall.
Windows Defender is better than past Windows Essentials but AVG free is probably better. PCANTIVIRUSREVIEWS.COM is a good place to chk.
PCMAG is money based and has NEVER reviewed VIPRE - the best one out there.
For me, not really. Windows 10 ditched support for a few features I used, like Media Center.
I agree completely about WMC, and that's the reason I didn't bother with Windows 8. Microsoft still doesn't get it-a lot of us use WMC for daily media consumption. I had to hack mine to get mkv files to work, but now there's nothing I can't watch.
they also dropped Gadgets (in W8) and games (in W10) and now want u to pay them $1.99/mo to provide ad free games that take 30 sec to load.
Fortunately, the old games and gadgets can be easily added back in.
What would we do without hackers?
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
-- Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
You were able to keep Office 2010 Starter,correct.
Do you still have it? I was afraid they might delete it with updates after what they are doing to the ones that keep Windows 7.
I am still on Windows 7 and they are discontinuing some parts of Office 2010 Starter I assume with updates. When I opened a previous Word Document the program said I no longer could run a script or something like that, can't remember just what it said but it then said I need to upgrade.
My daughter in law said they removed something she used also.
Have you noticed anything like that since you upgraded to Windows 10 with Office 2010 Starter?
they also dropped Gadgets (in W8) and games (in W10) and now want u to pay them $1.99/mo to provide ad free games that take 30 sec to load.
Fortunately, the old games and gadgets can be easily added back in.
What would we do without hackers?
Gadgets for Windows 7 is discontinued too
Gadgets are no longer available on our website because the Windows Sidebar platform in Windows 7 and Windows Vista has serious vulnerabilities. Microsoft has retired the feature in newer releases of Windows. Gadgets could be exploited to harm your computer, access your computer's files, show you objectionable content, or change their behavior at any time. An attacker could even use a gadget to take complete control of your PC.
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
You were able to keep Office 2010 Starter,correct.
Do you still have it? I was afraid they might delete it with updates after what they are doing to the ones that keep Windows 7.
I am still on Windows 7 and they are discontinuing some parts of Office 2010 Starter I assume with updates. When I opened a previous Word Document the program said I no longer could run a script or something like that, can't remember just what it said but it then said I need to upgrade.
My daughter in law said they removed something she used also.
Have you noticed anything like that since you upgraded to Windows 10 with Office 2010 Starter?
Nothing has been removed since I installed windows 10 but I run Office 2007 edition and it works fine and also received all the normal office updates to date plus the Office security updates.
-- Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
""More importantly he also confirmed that, despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:
“In the cases where we’ve not provided options, we feel that those things have to do with the health of the system,” he said. “In the case of knowing that our system that we’ve created is crashing, or is having serious performance problems, we view that as so helpful to the ecosystem and so not an issue of personal privacy, that today we collect that data so that we make that experience better for everyone.”
Still, whether or not you agree with Belfiore’s standpoint that this doesn’t invade user privacy, it does seem strange that it has taken Microsoft so long to come clean and admit core Windows 10 background data collection processes cannot be stopped. Instead it gave the impression that turning off all user accessible spying options in Windows 10 settings would provide owners with full privacy – that’s tantamount to spying.""
""More importantly he also confirmed that, despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:
Darth Vader "find[s] your lack of faith disturbing."
the rumor mill has it that windows 10 will have a large update on the 10 th to improve some functions , I hope they don't change to much I had enough problems tweeking this version of win 10
Info here on what to expect with the update. http://www.howtogeek.com/232176/whats-new-in-windows-10s-first-big-update-the-windows-10-fall-update/
Good Information at that site.
Does anybody know how large a FRESH (Not Update) installation of Win 10 Home Pro is without any personal software added?
I still have not updated to Win 10 from Win 7 and will continue to wait since I have until July to do so.
loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of going back
My husband and I are coming around to Windows 10. If you can't beat them join them. (but not yet)
I changed the settings again on my Windows Updater and it still downloaded and installed another update last night. It was a (recommended update)
I read somewhere that Windows 10 did not allow you to turn off automatic updates. If this is true it looks like Microsoft is configuring Windows 7 to be more like Windows 10.
Has anyone else on Windows 7 tried to stop automatic updates? And if so did you have the same problem?
I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
I just may do it
My husband and I are coming around to Windows 10. If you can't beat them join them. (but not yet)
I changed the settings again on my Windows Updater and it still downloaded and installed another update last night. It was a (recommended update)
I read somewhere that Windows 10 did not allow you to turn off automatic updates. If this is true it looks like Microsoft is configuring Windows 7 to be more like Windows 10.
Has anyone else on Windows 7 tried to stop automatic updates? And if so did you have the same problem?
I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
the only thing that will not run are 16 bit if you run 64 bit
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
The only old programs that would not work that I had before the update was one 16 bit program because I went to 64 bit on my desktop when I upgraded, if I would have installed the 32 bit windows 10 the program would have still worked as it had in 32 bit windows 7.
Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
I think the software is 64 bit
The grandkids will be here tomorrow to play on computers. My husband said we just might bite the bullet after they leave. I hope all my software works. I have an expensive embroidery program, 5D Embroidery, and sure would be upset if it didn't work. Will research that first, then who knows. Just because I said never look what happens.
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
The only old programs that would not work that I had before the update was one 16 bit program because I went to 64 bit on my desktop when I upgraded, if I would have installed the 32 bit windows 10 the program would have still worked as it had in 32 bit windows 7.
I think the software is 64 bit by reading stuff but not sure.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Upgrade Windows 10 32 Bit Or 64 Bit
The link below has some interesting facts about upgrading Windows 10 and which bit version to install.
The free Windows 10 upgrade will be rolled out primarily through Windows Update (which is how most people will receive the update), and you will NOT have an option to choose Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit; it will automatically default to your current operating system architecture. If you plan to keep all of your programs and user data in tact, then you would want to continue on with the in-place upgrade and NOT DO A CLEAN INSTALL.
https://www.infopackets.com/news/9629/windows-10-upgrade-can...
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Can I do an inplace update?
The link below has some interesting facts about upgrading Windows 10 and which bit version to install.
The free Windows 10 upgrade will be rolled out primarily through Windows Update (which is how most people will receive the update), and you will NOT have an option to choose Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit; it will automatically default to your current operating system architecture. If you plan to keep all of your programs and user data in tact, then you would want to continue on with the in-place upgrade and NOT DO A CLEAN INSTALL.
https://www.infopackets.com/news/9629/windows-10-upgrade-can...
Then do a clean install if I need to?
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
my understanding ...
Is that you can only upgrade first but that you can then do a clean install.
You
Then do a clean install if I need to?
You probably could if you had a bootable Windows 10 DVD or USB stick. You can create the bootable media as per the instructions here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-10/media-creation...
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Thanks
Then do a clean install if I need to?
You probably could if you had a bootable Windows 10 DVD or USB stick. You can create the bootable media as per the instructions here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-10/media-creation...
I made a bootable copy of the software while on the insider program for my Vista and my Netbook but I wasn't sure if they offered a link to make the DVD or USB with the final product.
Thanks, Mary
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Open Office?
I will also have to buy Office Home, also said I wouldn't do that, as I want a clean install as this computer is full of a lot of unneeded files and junk. Want to start fresh if I do it.
You might want to look into Apache Open Office rather than Office Home. It's free and it will look familiar to you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
https://www.openoffice.org/
If you don't like it you can un-install it and go with Office Home. All the files are compatible with each other.
You could even go ahead and install it on your current system just to check it out before you upgrade. Your current Office program won't even notice.
Live every day like it's your last. Some day you'll be right - Benny Hill
Open Office
You might want to look into Apache Open Office rather than Office Home. It's free and it will look familiar to you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
https://www.openoffice.org/
If you don't like it you can un-install it and go with Office Home. All the files are compatible with each other.
You could even go ahead and install it on your current system just to check it out before you upgrade. Your current Office program won't even notice.
Thanks for posting this.
I can get a free download of Office thru work, but it's all online, and my tinfoil hat isn't all that keen on it.
I will look into open office.
open office
Open office: is available as a portable app, no-install, no traces nothing to bother the tinfoil, and nothing to remove if its not perfect
the title of my autiobiography "Mistakes have been made"
LibreOffice
Another alternative to MS Office and OpenOffice is LibreOffice. It's also free and open-source and while it's very similar, it's different enough that it might include some additional features that appeal to you.
One isn't necessarily any better than the other but they each have their charms. My wife likes chocolate shakes and I like vanilla (although in that case, vanilla is actually better)...
- Phil
Win10 and Anti Virus and Starting Up Direct
mgarledge, get rid of NORTON's, I've been using AVG for years and I think it is far better than Norton's. I do not know if Mcafee is still around, but it was/is the pits as well.
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I downloaded Windows 10 onto my NEW 64 bit laptop to update from Windows 8 a few weeks ago without a problem. The only thing I did not like is the way you have to get into your programs. I found a program which I used to give me the Windows 7 type start. It is "Classic Start 8", free to download and use.
Yesterday I noticed that on my older Windows 7 - 64 bit the update icon let me update to indows 10 as well. It installed without any problems.
I do see though that Microsoft has changed the start-up page to be more what it used to look like. But I still find it easier to use the "Classic Start 8" program. It's much easier to get into the Control panel, Windows Explorer, Regedit, MSconfig, etc.
I will agree with Melaqueman in getting rid of Norton. Though I've used the 360 Version until Win10 and the latest will not allow side by by side with Avast. My Norton was free.
I've used AVG and a couple others. At present I prefer Avast.
Now I'm going to have to investigate the registry about Kapersky and others running running from the start. I'm seen no evidence of that so far.
I have 2 systems on Win 10 now. One hiccup on install, then cleanup of the systems about privacy. Crossed fingers about that.
There is no need for external programs for startup on single user systems to start to the desktop.
A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
As far as start screens, desktops, or whatever - different animal. Windows 10 cost me the ability to run dream scenes on my desktop.
But, I am not very trusting, I have back up hard drives that were ghosted over from freshly set up Windows 7. They are just sitting and waiting. You know, just in case.
Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
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A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
You're using Windows as a user with administrator permissions? Why?
windows 10
when I did my windows 10 upgrade I decided to do a clean install when it was done to clean all the accumulated crap from all the installing and uninstalling . after it was all done I proceeded to install all my steam games , email , and other software when I was finished I also installed a program called startisback +
(I think it was about $3) to get as close to win 7 as I could then I set it up as to not bother me with signing in each time I start the machine . so what I have now is a machine that boots straight to the desktop and doesn't ask you to sign in it looks and act's like windows 7 the only difference is the task bar it's a little different but not much, so with a little tweaking you cant tell the difference from 7 to 10
SysAdmin or Not
A gentleman named Mihai Neacsu posted on the web 8 Oct 2014 how to automatically logon to windows 8. This also is the method for Windows 10 and 7. Works very well. It is clear, with illustrations and proper command prompts. You must be logged in as a system admin or have the ability to do so. A guest account won't work for this.
You're using Windows as a user with administrator permissions? Why?
To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I do apologize in making the assumption implicit and not explicit about using a user account. That was totally my fault.
Though I have 2 systems (totally separate) and I am the single user. I have a single user account (different on each). These are connected to the internet through separate hardware and software firewalls.
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
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To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I thought you suggested that we must use our machine constantly as admin in order to automatically log in to Windows (without touching anything). That is not worth it.
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
I may take the plunge
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I have windows 10 on my computers and now after 2 1/2 months of letting windows do all the automatic updates I have had no problems arise of any kind. Without a doubt after running every windows version ever released windows 10 is the best and most trouble free of any of them to date. I loved windows 7 but would not think for a second of ever going back.
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I have been waiting to hear the reviews to download it. I may just do it.
Really...
Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
Malware comes from ads, and java script while surfing. Try using Ad Block Plus, and NoScript.
As for Win 10, no problems here at all since it installed.
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overall is it worth the
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
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Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
Malware comes from ads, and java script while surfing. Try using Ad Block Plus, and NoScript.
been using them for over 10 years. I still don't recommend using admin account and browse the web.
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Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
Malware comes from ads, and java script while surfing. Try using Ad Block Plus, and NoScript.
been using them for over 10 years. I still don't recommend using admin account and browse the web.
Agree too
Drive by crap has more trouble installing, if you browse without install privelege
the title of my autiobiography "Mistakes have been made"
Sorry, That Was My Fault
To make the change I said, you must have sysadmin privileges and be logged on as such. Then go back to your user account.
I thought you suggested that we must use our machine constantly as admin in order to automatically log in to Windows (without touching anything). That is not worth it.
But, to your question of why, because just like you, because I choose to log on the way I like. Though it is with a user account. I use the sysadmin as sysadmin.
List for me if you will the consequences of a single user system consistently logged onto as sysadmin, please. Believe it or not, I'm just curious.
Browsing the internet while logged in as administrator gives malware (I'm thinking of drive-by downloads) unrestricted access to your system.
I did not mean use sysadmin all the time.
I have in the past. With a very tightly controlled system and had no problems for over a year. This was with Win7. Another system with AVG on it and sysadmin, I had to re-install Win7 after about 4 months. I use Avast now.
I do experiment some with a several systems. Right now I'm starting to configure Ultimate Edition Linux on a small netbook. See how it goes. It is more restrictive just to start with.
Curiosity is the acquisition of knowledge. And the death of cats.
Apology isn't necessary
I did not mean use sysadmin all the time.
I have in the past. With a very tightly controlled system and had no problems for over a year. This was with Win7. Another system with AVG on it and sysadmin, I had to re-install Win7 after about 4 months. I use Avast now.
Your previous reply already cleared that up. I got it now.
I supposed you got hit by some malware and reinstalled the system after about 4 months? If I understand that correctly, that is exactly why I don't recommend using an admin account all the time. It's only a matter of time before you get hit. You can't expect anti malware to fully protect your system. Anti malware product that gives us 100% protection does not exist.
Restricted rights
Right now I'm starting to configure Ultimate Edition Linux on a small netbook. See how it goes. It is more restrictive just to start with.
Yup, and it's that way in part for the reasons set forth above.
This is one of the reasons why you don't hear too much about viruses/malware on Linux systems. They do exist but are more the exception rather than the rule. One made headlines recently with Ubuntu Linux though, and it was the result of users modifying and weakening the security model by enabling SSH root logins AND choosing a poor-quality password.
Just a reminder that your system is only as secure as its weakest link which, unfortunately, is often the user.
- Phil
windows 10 issues
i have it running on 4 computers.
the only real issue was video drivers.
I did it b4 release with the tech preview and nvidia had not released their w10 driver yet, so a couple of the computers limped along till it came out.
My HP business laptop is also a problem b/c HP is not acknowledging W10 drivers and programs like Protect tools. It is now called client tools and is available for newer models and works fine on mine - it did take some searching to find the workaround. Why HP just ignores these computers is a mystery to me.
Bottom line W10 is stable and is a welcome relief for those abused by W8. It is also not a big learning experience for W7 users but it is different so it will take a few days to figure some of it out. Some mfg, like HP, are not forthcoming with updates for older systems even though they were sold with W7 and r upgradeable to W10.
Before u try to upgrade, I would suggest finding drivers for all ur hardware. Most systems will upgrade just fine, but if u can't find the drivers MS may not either.
After u upgrade search for DONOTSPY, but I wouldn't recommend turning off automatic updates as the default config will do, but I would recommend setting W10 to ASK YOU to reboot when installing updates.
I would also do an image of ur W7 system using Macrium Reflect free just in case. Great program, works well and simple to use. Requires an external hard drive to save the file onto.
Once u r happy with W10 install, image that also. Much easier to recover with an image than a total reinstall.
Windows Defender is better than past Windows Essentials but AVG free is probably better. PCANTIVIRUSREVIEWS.COM is a good place to chk.
PCMAG is money based and has NEVER reviewed VIPRE - the best one out there.
I have never liked Norton or McAfee.
I don't think so
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
For me, not really. Windows 10 ditched support for a few features I used, like Media Center.
Not w/o media center
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
For me, not really. Windows 10 ditched support for a few features I used, like Media Center.
I agree completely about WMC, and that's the reason I didn't bother with Windows 8. Microsoft still doesn't get it-a lot of us use WMC for daily media consumption. I had to hack mine to get mkv files to work, but now there's nothing I can't watch.
have u tried VLC? It will
have u tried VLC? It will play anything. It is VERY popular alternative to anything MS.
they also dropped Gadgets
they also dropped Gadgets (in W8) and games (in W10) and now want u to pay them $1.99/mo to provide ad free games that take 30 sec to load.
Fortunately, the old games and gadgets can be easily added back in.
What would we do without hackers?
2 thumbs up
have u tried VLC? It will play anything. It is VERY popular alternative to anything MS.
I second this, although I'm not on Windows 10 I do use VLC on my Windows 7 machine and it much better than media player.
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It is very much worth the change to windows 10
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
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IMHO yes it was worth moving
IMHO yes it was worth moving to win10. Gotta set all the various privacy settings to your liking.
Office 2010 Starter
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
You were able to keep Office 2010 Starter,correct.
Do you still have it? I was afraid they might delete it with updates after what they are doing to the ones that keep Windows 7.
I am still on Windows 7 and they are discontinuing some parts of Office 2010 Starter I assume with updates. When I opened a previous Word Document the program said I no longer could run a script or something like that, can't remember just what it said but it then said I need to upgrade.
My daughter in law said they removed something she used also.
Have you noticed anything like that since you upgraded to Windows 10 with Office 2010 Starter?
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they also dropped Gadgets (in W8) and games (in W10) and now want u to pay them $1.99/mo to provide ad free games that take 30 sec to load.
Fortunately, the old games and gadgets can be easily added back in.
What would we do without hackers?
Gadgets for Windows 7 is discontinued too
Gadgets are no longer available on our website because the Windows Sidebar platform in Windows 7 and Windows Vista has serious vulnerabilities. Microsoft has retired the feature in newer releases of Windows. Gadgets could be exploited to harm your computer, access your computer's files, show you objectionable content, or change their behavior at any time. An attacker could even use a gadget to take complete control of your PC.
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/gadgets)
I wouldn't add it back to my PC.
I have office 2007
overall is it worth the change to windows 10?
This is the best windows version yet and have not regretted upgrading from windows 7 on all my computers for a second.
All the software that I had been using works fine in windows 10 and have been doing all the automatic updates from day one with no problems of any kind. It is much quicker on both my desktop and laptop and everyone I know that has made the upgrade are also very pleased and without exception say their computer is much quicker now.
You were able to keep Office 2010 Starter,correct.
Do you still have it? I was afraid they might delete it with updates after what they are doing to the ones that keep Windows 7.
I am still on Windows 7 and they are discontinuing some parts of Office 2010 Starter I assume with updates. When I opened a previous Word Document the program said I no longer could run a script or something like that, can't remember just what it said but it then said I need to upgrade.
My daughter in law said they removed something she used also.
Have you noticed anything like that since you upgraded to Windows 10 with Office 2010 Starter?
Nothing has been removed since I installed windows 10 but I run Office 2007 edition and it works fine and also received all the normal office updates to date plus the Office security updates.
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Ditto 2007
I have Office '07 as well, and it all still works. No problems here. My neighbour has 2003, and has lost updates for it, but it doesn't bother him.
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I'm using Office 2003.
I'm using Office 2003. Doesn't bother me at all.
Haven't upgraded yet, still
Haven't upgraded yet, still running 8.1 but upgrading is on my to do list.
love it
I had 8.1 windows 10 is so much faster and everything I have works fine maybe better then it did before
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Read this in the following link "Makes you think"
Read this here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft...
""More importantly he also confirmed that, despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:
“In the cases where we’ve not provided options, we feel that those things have to do with the health of the system,” he said. “In the case of knowing that our system that we’ve created is crashing, or is having serious performance problems, we view that as so helpful to the ecosystem and so not an issue of personal privacy, that today we collect that data so that we make that experience better for everyone.”
Still, whether or not you agree with Belfiore’s standpoint that this doesn’t invade user privacy, it does seem strange that it has taken Microsoft so long to come clean and admit core Windows 10 background data collection processes cannot be stopped. Instead it gave the impression that turning off all user accessible spying options in Windows 10 settings would provide owners with full privacy – that’s tantamount to spying.""
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Re: thinking
Read this here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft...
""More importantly he also confirmed that, despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:
Darth Vader "find[s] your lack of faith disturbing."
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turn off service
if you never want your pc to update, you can turn off the windows update service and it will never update.
windows 10
the rumor mill has it that windows 10 will have a large update on the 10 th to improve some functions , I hope they don't change to much I had enough problems tweeking this version of win 10
Info here on what to expect
Info here on what to expect with the update. http://www.howtogeek.com/232176/whats-new-in-windows-10s-fir...
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Thanks Charles
Info here on what to expect with the update. http://www.howtogeek.com/232176/whats-new-in-windows-10s-first-big-update-the-windows-10-fall-update/
Good Information at that site.
Does anybody know how large a FRESH (Not Update) installation of Win 10 Home Pro is without any personal software added?
I still have not updated to Win 10 from Win 7 and will continue to wait since I have until July to do so.
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Windows 10
I just noticed they put out a video showing more hands on for using new options. http://www.winbeta.org/news/hands-on-with-the-windows-10-nov...
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Does anybody know how large a FRESH (Not Update) installation of Win 10 Home Pro is without any personal software added?
There's no Win 10 Home Pro version. It's either Home or Pro.
I see 2 downloads at the following:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10I...
32-bit English (2.8GB)
and
64-bit English (3.8GB)
They will upgrade either Win 7/8 Home or Pro edition.
I still have not updated to Win 10 from Win 7 and will continue to wait since I have until July to do so.
You probably have it downloaded already. Check your C: drive for Win10 setup folder (I don't remember the name of the folder).
Not with the Home edition.
if you never want your pc to update, you can turn off the windows update service and it will never update.
You can't turn it off in the Home edition. Or did you find a hack somewhere?