2013.30 NA

I updated my nuvi 855 last night. I used the "cloning" method described in this thread (http://www.poi-factory.com/node/34914) to install directly to the 8 GB micro SD card. There was plenty of room for the full map and the large JCV, but as in past updates, the installer gave me the puny JCV:
D3153080A.JCV, 44892 KB. Fortunately I have the large JCV file from the install on my 755T so I was able to copy it over and the 855 is working well with the new map and large JCV.

I keep hoping Garmin will improve the map installer to detect the amount of available free space on the install target and give you the larger JCV file automatically. They have made some improvement by offering to install the map to SD (on some models anyway). It seems like they could offer up the large JCV to users installing to SD.

Thanks for the reply Craig.

Reinstalling via the manual updater resolved both issues. I am going to get rid of that lifetime updater! The lifetime updater did work fine last map update though.

I'm downloading now... And it didn't suggest an SD card.. I do have an SD card installed, but it is full of music...

I deleted most everything after last one, and stopped loading a couple POI's.... Once this is finished, I'll see how much space is left.....

See you in 2 hours!! !

I had a flawless install using Lifetime Updater.

It took 26 minutes for 2013.30 to download (Verizon FiOS 50/25) to my PC, and 72 minutes to install 2013.30 to my GPS without the need to use a card.

Thanks for the info.

I keep forgetting that I have to turn off all the Filters in the router & gateway....

in 10 min time the updater was saying I had 254 hours left to download....

Logged off Logged on, reconnected, ran updater, and had to tell it to re-install....

Back to normal 2 hours till finished.....

Wish I knew which filter it wanted..... I had to open them all.... to get it to work....

15 min later, it's uploading the map to the 660.

Finished... 29.8Mb free space left!

Did a quick test... Seems OK.

Did you use the Garmin Lifetime Updater for all 3? Many seem to be having problems with it and are switching to the online MapUpdater.

Matt ... I got the same error, installing on my 260W ... discovered, as you did, that the install program deleted all the older maps off the 260W while installing on the SD card.

What I did was use Mapsource to install a "one-state" 2013.2 MAP onto my 260W ... then reinstalled the 2013.3 on an SD card.

Seems to be some sort of error deleting some of the files off the 260W ... when installing the the full map on the SD card. I used the manual install rather that the auto updater.

THe new update, 2013.3, installed like a dream on my 2650 Garmin.

I expect others will have this problem too.

FYI ... my 260W is a late-in-the-model-eun, 255W clone.

Thanks for the update

As of this map update, North America (minus French Guiana, which is still South America) will no longer fit on a 2GB nüvi.

I had felt the space pinch with 2013.20, having only about 30MB free after removing the few remaining unused files I had (vehicles). 2013.30 is 80.59MB (82528KB) larger than 2013.20, so even if I removed everything, North America will no longer fit.

So on to the MicroSD it goes, and the JCV file will get put in internal memory. If necessary, I'll throw a map of my home state in internal memory as well, but I suspect my copy of Cenrut will be sufficient to avoid any "No detailed maps" errors.

I just downloaded the 2013.30 maps. My 765t reloaded and I ended up with a screen that says (cannot unlock maps). Anyone know how to clear this up?

If you used the lifetime updater, don't. Use the manual updater instead. That should fix the problem.

Luckytom, it sounds like you got an incomplete or corrupt update. Did you use the Lifetime Updater program? a lot of users have had this issue using the lifetime updater.

The best solution is to redownload and update using the online Map Updater (my.garmin.com). Make sure you have sufficient free space on your nuvi before you start the download. Remove any unused voice files, vehicle files, etc.

The new map works as expected, has a few new streets, and a fly-over that was put in last year. When on a route, voice seems smoother, and with better pronunciation. Recalc's also seem a bit quicker.

Mind you, this is over one day, so further testing is required. So far, so good.

Downloading to 3490 now. Hope it fixes some strange routing problems I had in NY and Washington during a trip from NH to NC earlier this year. Doing that same trip again in two weeks. Firmware has been updated on the 3490 as well. We'll see what happens. Keeping my trusty 660 right next to it with ancient maps just on case. LOL

Thanks for letting us know! Garmin sure doesn't alert me in a hurry - if ever despite being on the notification list! Other best place I've found is here: http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=17527

Thanks for the heads up, will download now

Yes, I did use the Garmin Lifetime Updater for all 3 and it worked perfectly.

I had problems with Lifetime Updater before too. Now I'm using myDashboard. Works better with my 765t.

It took 3 map updates after reporting it to both Garmin and Navteq, but they finally added our local Police department to the POI's in this release. Considering that this could be VITAL information for someone in an emergency, and that the next next closest Police Station is 6 miles away I think this took WAY to long to correct; especially for something that is so easy to verify.

... if it turns up, someone will let us know, right?

... right?

--

it's the dog's fault

Thanks for the info will get it this weekend.

CAUTION: This update caused an error in routing when using MapSource on my p.c. Try making a new route from Hartford, CT to Aurora, NC while avoiding tolls.

Error Information:

App: MapSource
At: 11/2/2012 8:19:27 PM (UTC)
OS: Windows 7 (64-bit) Service Pack 1
Processor: x86, Processor Level: 6, Processors:4, Model: 42 Stepping: 7, RAM: 4117304
ERR_FATALDIALOGREF.HPP-116-6.16.3.0

Active Map Product: City Navigator North America NT 2013.3
Version: 16.30
Data Path: C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\Maps\City Navigator North America NT 2013.30.gmap\Product1\

I will wait for a few days before updating my nuvi LMT2460.

I will download tonight after I get home.

It works in Base Camp. As Mapsource is no longer supported, you may have a hard time getting a fix for the problem.

My 1690 would only fit the lower 48. I wish I had the rest of North America

You can reinstall 2013.30 (although it will require a full download again) and have the full North America map installed to a SD card quite simply since the 1690 is one of the many models that offer the direct SD installation:

https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?...

With your 1690 connected to your computer, webbrowse to myGarmin, then myMaps and select the button that says something like download or reinstall again. A 4 or 8GB SD card is a very cheap way to get the full map back on your device.

Finished with no problems with FIOS took 15 minutes to download.

thank you for the update

As BoxCar pointed out, MapSource is no longer supported, and has been replaced by BaseCamp.

MapSource also fails trying to create the route with the 2013.20 map. So the problem has to do with MapSource and not the 2013.30 map update.

Good news! BaseCamp computes the route correctly!!

When I imported the BaseCamp route to my 2595, it seemed to be identical to the trip calculated (with no tolls) on the unit -- both showed elapsed time of 11:20, distance 1139 km (708 mi.)

Thanks for the alert.

My 1690 with 8 Gb SD card took the full NA update with no issues. I'm just waiting for the large JCV file to put in the JCV folder.

I used the Garmin Map Updater, not the lifetime updater which has caused problems for me in the past.

The Map Updater put the full mapset on the SD card by default.

Edit: I also have MapSource and duplicated the error posted above.

I continue to try Lifetime UpDater on every new map since it was released and seem to have success every other time with it. When it works it is simple, fast and easy to use. So I hope Garmin gets all the little bugs out it one day.

On this update it downloaded the map fine but then told me I did not have enough room on my zumo 665 (4 GB)to install my whole map and to select a smaller portion (or something like that). It did not even give me a choice to install it to the installed 8GB SD card. The Online MapUpdater took over from there and installed the full map from the already downloaded map. So at least I didn't have to download the map twice.

Hi all.

Well I used lifetime updater to download the new 2013.30 and no problem, took about 25 min.

When I clicked on install no joy. I get an error message saying "There was an error installing your maps, please try again. If the problem presists please concact Garmin customer support"

I checked my 1450 LMT and the 2013.20 map is still there and usable.

Ok, Now I'm just a little confused and annoyed. Judging what you people say here it looks like I just have to ditch lifetime updater and do something else.

Soo is there any FAQ I can read to tell me how to manually do the update/install ?

Thanks
Allan

@VS44a,

Logon to Garmin.com and creat a MyGarmin account if you haven't done so.

Once in MyGarmin connect your GPS and select the MyDashboard tab. You will see a Map Updates section that will guide you through the update process.

It took about 6 hours over my 3Mbps line to download the files using the lifteime updater....then when it tried to install the files it gave me an error. Tried installing it again (using the same download) it installed. When I D/C the nuvi and started it up it said I needed to reset the unit.....don't remember that happening for other updates. Is that normal? When I tried to check the files in basecamp it loaded a new version (I guess I missed on sometime ago).Also it retained the 2013.2 file in basecamp.

Them maps on my nuvi are now: Cnna-Na-Dem North America DEM; CN North America NT 2013.30 3D; and CN North America NT 2013.30 All. Are these correct?

Out of curiosity, I just tried this. I created a route from Hartford to Aurora, and it created it just fine.

Then I noticed I didn't have "avoid toll roads" checked.

So I checked "avoid toll roads", then recalculated the route, and it worked as it should.

Maybe it will recalc, but not create from scratch???

So I deleted my route, and then made a new one -- Hartford, CT to Aurora, NC -- and it worked fine.

Using:

MapSource 6.16.3

and

City Navigator North America NT 2013.2

???

I installed the thing on my 760 and, of course, it updated my firmware. The map installed fine. Then I reverted to the 4.9 firmware and the unit could no longer find the maps. CRAP!

I did the install again and left the new firmware in place. It now works "mostly". The problem I have now is NO AUDIO.

If I run it through the FM transmitter I get audio from Jack and from my audio books. If turn off the FM transmitter I would normally hear everything through the internal speaker but there is NOTHING now. No beeps when I push buttons, no audio from the audio books, no spoken directions from Jack (or any other voice file).

Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm leaving for Hawaii Monday and I need this thing to work!

I installed 2013.30 last night on my 3490 and now no more 3D buildings that I used to have with 2013.20. I checked under "Installed Maps" and 3D is not listed. I will do a re-installation later to see if that solved the problem.

Thanks for the info. I thought it would be in December.

Did another full install. Still no audio. NOT good. I don't understand why Garmin insists on screwing with my firmware rather than letting me keep a version that works. The thing is freaking worthless if it won't speak to me.

Any big changes

I have been downloading for over 2 hours. First time it has ever taken this long.

Same here, this is odd!

Took all evening and well into the night on my hotel wifi. Didn't take nearly as long on last update. On my 2495LMT with 7.31gb total, space used went from 3.72gb to 5.91gb. 60% increase seems like a lot. Is this all expanded junction view? I also had the map installed to my computer and the current version is only slightly larger than the old.

I'll wait for the large JCV file.

I retested the route with 2013.20 and no crash this time. No idea why I get a different result from last night.

I also discovered that using Prefer Highways will make the route work with 2013.30 maps.

Edit -> Preferences -> Routing then move the Road Selection slider from its default middle position all the way to the right.

oh wow, thanks ... I only just recently updated to former maps, because never got the notification from Garmin ... neither I got one this time ...

Hi.

Thanx tried that and still no joy. The 2013.20 maps still work but dashboard still could not install the 2013.30 mps.

Oh well, I'll just wait and see.

Allan