City Navigator 2010 North America Now Available

So far from what I have seen, the c330 is locked down so that not even MapSource can update or remove-then-install newer maps. It does have 1GB of memory built in but the only way I could get any newer maps in there was using the Sd card... which is fine for me since I know the lower 48 (that I used) is still larger than the 1GB on the unit itself.

Thanks for all the tips. Works great.

Hm, I've updated the maps on my C340 using the DVDs for 2008 and 2009 previously. Or are you just referring to downloads?

came installed with 2009 maps and say's I need to pay for the 2010 on the web site. I thought I was going to get the 2010 map as a free update?

Can anyone explain this to me?

Here are Garmin's official conditions for the nuMaps Guarantee.

You will qualify for the free map update only if (i) you register your nüvi or zūmo online at http://my.garmin.com within 60 days of first acquiring satellites while driving with your device, and (ii) a newer version of the map data was or becomes available for purchase from Garmin’s website at any time up to 60 days after first acquiring satellites while driving with your device. You will not qualify for the free map update if you register your nüvi or zūmo with Garmin by telephone or more than 60 days after first acquiring satellites while driving with your device. Limit of one free map update per unit.

If you have registered your new device within 60 days of the first satellite acquisition, you should be available for the map update that was available during that time period.

If for some reason you believe that it is reading the date incorrectly, just call Garmin and send them a copy of your purchase receipt, and they should fix you up.

apparently my garmin did not find the satilite prior to my registering therefore they had to fix it manually.

It took 2 days but I have the maps installed on my new 855.

Thanks

me too

I would warn folks that the nuMaps guarantee and Garmin's warranty may not apply if you purchase a unit from eBay. I bought a refurb 750 from a dealer on eBay and Garmin would not allow me to get the free update to 2010 (the date of first acquisition was not reset on the refurb). They also said that the one-year warranty would not be honored on the unit. The dealer tells me that he's not had problems in the past, so maybe they are just enforcing the rules now. If you buy from eBay try to get a receipt that doesn't indicate it was an auction purchase.

"To obtain warranty service, an original or copy of the sales receipt from the original retailer is required. Online auction confirmations are not accepted for warranty verification, and Garmin will not replace missing components from any package purchased through an online auction."

I have dealt with this with various electronics for years... Refurbished or reconditioned items may have a different warranty. In the case of my c330, it had a 60 day manufacturer warranty (Garmin). I even called Garmin and they said that it is covered. Of course now it is coming close to the end of the warranty already as I have had it for about 2 months.

Many times the refurbs are only covered by the seller, not the manufacturer so make sure you check the "conditions of sale" to see which you run into.

As for Fleabay and Craigslist or other sales outlets, I would suggest avoiding those places as you will likely get a used unit that may have been refurb'd or rcon'd a year ago or 6 months ago or whatever and likely have zero warranty. The seller cannot be trusted, even if their ad says "refurbished unit with Garmin warranty"... for all you know they got it refurb'd and have been selling several units for the past 6 months, and with a 60 day warranty, that ran out 4 months ago.

Only trust refurb/recon unit from trusted sales outlets like Newegg, buy.com, zipzoomfly, tiger direct....

Hi all!!.... new to the forums here...

Was just reading all this and I have a different issue. Just bought a 205 for our other car and more so a backup since the 350 has been a little odd lately.

I tried downloading the update for 2010 which is now on Rev C. (Garmin_RMU_CNNANT2010C.DMG) for the Mac, but when trying to download, I get an error that the file doesn't exist. Guess the EXE version is out there but not the Mac DMG version....

Any ideas? or just get Garmin on the phone?.....

i installed 2010map several weeks ago (the 1st release) on my nuvi650, was driving to a friend's house at weekend and the junction disappeared lol (the street/road thing) only highway existed and my car was like out of no where like if i was driving in some ghost town. anyway i installed back to 2009.11 map (the previous release). im not going to install any 2010 maps again until the final release

There is no "final release". Garmin has gone to a qaurterly update. Each quarterly update is a complete release on it's own, containing Navteqs latest additions, up to the internal cut off date for release.

These map updates are not like software releases. The next release will contain an all new map database as updated by Navteq.

Wrong. Garmin has been issuing "corrections" to their maps updates. Both the quarterly release and the annual update have had multiple versions issued.

If your unit and maps are functioning it doesn't matter if you have the first release or the "B" or "C" versions. The B and C versions dealt with problems with specific units and as I recall the one was a fix for the 2XX models and the other release dealt with a Junction View fix on the 7X5 models.

I searched yesterday to see if I could purchase the DVD for 2010 at Walmart while I was there. Has not made it to store shelves as of yet.

I was SUGGESTED by GARMIN NOT to purchase the maps on DVD but rather from THEM as a download to be SURE I was getting the very latest release.

So, who am I to believe? Do I purchase the DVD from Wally World at a few dollar savings or bend over and let Garmin charge me MORE for the same maps?

I tend to believe that process... the download should always be the latest version because it can be dynamically changed or fixed as needed by the programmers, so if there is a known bug they can fix it and have the new release posted within hours (or shortly after it is fixed).
By using media (DVD/CDs), if they have 2 million discs out with the bugs from when it was burned to the disc, they will have to either send out notifications to everyone that registers the software, force the updates via MapSource/WebUpdater OR stop the burning/recall all discs that have been done so far and start the process all over again which means the 2010 maps may not make it to stores until, well 2010, when the download may be available 6-12 months earlier.

There are a couple of advantages in having the disc (price, existing backup) but the risk of it being obsolete is high. I've never went the disc way, preferring to download and THEN I can burn as disc with the file as a back-up.

My question is: Do you get access to a (downloaded) update when you buy the disc, like you get when you buy a new unit, or do you just get what's on the media?

haven't seen in store yet. May be another couple weeks before it show up in store like Bestbuy.

Copied from FOX News

GPS System Could Fail Next Year, Report Warns
Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Mismanagement and underinvestment by the U.S. Air Force could possibly lead to the failure and blackout of the Global Positioning System (GPS), a federal watchdog agency says.

The risk of failure starts in 2010, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO) report quoted by PC World.

The failure would impact not only military operations, but also the millions of people and businesses who rely on the satellite-based navigation systems built into cars, boats and cell phones.

"If the Air Force does not meet its schedule goals for development of GPS IIIA satellites, there will be an increased likelihood that in 2010, as old satellites begin to fail, the overall GPS constellation will fall below the number of satellites required to provide the level of GPS service that the U.S. government commits to," the GAO report states.

The report says the Air Force has struggled to build successful GPS satellites within cost and on schedule.

I just downloaded the 2010 maps for a 265T. On the PC side it was 1.92GB. I'm download it again on the Mac side of my machine and now the download is showing that it's going to be 2.70GB. Last time I did this (2009 maps), the maps were the same size.

Quite a difference.

Both are 2010C.

When any of you updated your maps, did your personal POI's integrate with the new map update?

The POI's I have gained from this site i could easily replace after the upgrade. The personal ones.. what a pain that would be!

Dan

They will not be over wrote. Only the maps. It would be a good idea to back them up just in case. I've never lost them when updating.

what everyone went through back in April, I am pretty happy I waited to buy into the Lifetime Maps.

Extremely disappointed with this version as well. Garmin has marked this version as 2010 but the map seems to be a few years old. A lot of roads and points created even in 2007 doesn't show correctly.

That, unfortunately, is normal.

Keep sending updates to Navteq!

i've had my gps for slightly over a year now, since about 3 weeks before the 2009 maps came out, so i got in on the free update for 2009. Went ahead and grabbed it because it was free, didnt bother to check for any differences to be honest.

Now, the 2010 update, I'm debating on. Even here in SOuthern California, there doesnt seem to have been enough new construction to worry about it.

You are making a common mistake judging from what you wrote. If something is wrong in a map of any year, and it does not get reported, it very well may not get fixed for a long time. That does not mean the map is old. I have a 2009 paper map made especially for our County for our Fire Department. Guess what. Two roads, one a year old, the other just short of two years old are not on the map. And a road that shows is not shown correctly. But also on this new paper map, as in the 2010 Garmin maps, are many new roads and features that are indeed added since the last map. Those missing/wrong roads do not make the map old.

I see from the GPS that can get the downloaded maps that the Streetpilot C340 is not on the list, which is a disappointment. Anyone know whether the DVD for 2010 also is not compatible with the C340? Or has everyone gone to download/ditched the C340?

From the C340 map page, it appears that the maps will work:

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=164&pID=290#mapTab

It's interesting, though. The C340 (and C330) list numaps lifetime (and Onetime) North America as offered for these devices, which means that they must be able to use downloaded maps and updates since the lifetime versions are only offered by download. The only potential way it may not work is if the "check eligibility" option--which requires connecting your GPS so I can't test it--issues a "no go" answer for you.

The C320 does not show the lifetime or Onetime maps as working for that device while the 330 and 340 do.

I may have missed it (too much reading today), but does anyone know when the quarterly revision to 2010 will be out - any word yet?
I have a free update to use before mid-July, and just want to make sure I have the latest revision.

Thanks.

i talk to garmin to day the tech said the end if july when the maps comes out

Donald
nuvi 5000 and nuvi 200w
(life time maps)

My experience this simply doesn't work.

I've lived in our home now for more than 12 years. Form the very beginning, the GPS or other map systems have had the location of our address off by 3 houses.

This is true from all the map sources (GPS, Google etc that use Navteq and other sources)

I have reported the error to Navteq for years without any evidence that it will ever be updated.

I have reported a number of issues with their map sources with the same lack of updates.

I'm not impressed with Navteq.

Drat! Missed it by |-------| that much.

Thanks for the info.

As yours, my house shows to be at the wrong end of the block. I sent a detailed note to NAVTEQ with a sketch of the block and how the houses were really numbered. Their response, while not satisfying made a bit of sense, at least it explained why lots of addresses end up being "down the street."

Even though there are only 5 house lots on either side of my block and only 10 addresses ranging from 0-9, their system assigns 100 addressed to each block. That is, the 1100 block goes from 1100 to 1199. So, if the last house on the block is 1109, they call it 1199 and that puts 1109 near the other end of the block.

No, they have no plans on changing the system even though they admit this does skew some addresses.

I just downloaded the new maps.. thanks for the info. Much better at recognizing street names instead of county roads.

The issue with your house position has been explained in numerous posts and discussions. It will not get corrected. Due to the way address ranges are given to NavTeq, it will remain as is.

And it won't make any difference if you use a Tom-Tom and TeleAtlas maps. It's the same standard GIS algorithm.

Just updated mine yesterday with lifetime update.
Don't waste your time! It doesn't show anything new for me. It still makes mistakes at the end of my road where the county widened it and changed the turn to my street. It still takes me down by the lake instead of just driving straight. Took me all day to download this thing. What gives. Maybe I'm missing something?

Maybe for you but some nice changes for me, places no longer open have been removed and some new streets are added,great for me..

If there are big changes that did not show up from the 2010.1 map update from the begining of the year you may want to contact Navteq at their website and inform them of the changes. You can even send them your track log to show them the changes in the road.

Doing the blocks by algorithm instead of noting the exact position of every single address has to save an enormous amount of space in the file. The memory would need to be probably 10x or 20x more than it is to locate them all individually.

I loaded the 2010 North America maps on my Nuvi 660 and it took it, but the load time was about an hour from a DVD. It has made my 660 almost useless. The route calculation hangs up, the now indirect routes avoid interstates and focus on secondary roads. Saint Louis to Chicago via Indiana back roads? No, thank you.

Anyone else had issues? Garmin is closed for the weekend, so I won't get their version of the story for a couple of more days.

I've been using the 2010 maps in my 660 almost since they were released and had no problem at all. I did obtain them from a download rather than a DVD however.

i d/l the 2010 and it bricked my Garmin. So, i dont trust the d/l process from Garmin. Did this happen to anyone else??

I bought the lifetime maps update and did the 2010 d/l from garmin when released in my nuvi 360 several months back. No problems at all.

Got the life time update for my 350 DL 2010 from Garmin web site and all's well for me...

I downloaded the 2010.1 map update and installed it on my 660 without problem. It is still working fine.

My lifetime update worked perfectly. I understand there may be a new update coming out this month.