Garmin discontinuing nuvi 3597?

To me the 2014 0models didn't impress me.
Hopefully Garmin will come out with a new
model in 2015 that will replace the 3597.

Does anyone know what Garmin is up to with the 2015 Prestige Series? I am hoping to see a new 3597 replacement with magnetic mount. Should I just go ahead and get a 3597 while they are still available?

According to the owner of a large Garmin distributor, when asked if there was going to be a Prestige Model announcement, the reply was:

" The replacement is a cheaper unit with no magnetic mount and we'll never see anything like the 3597 again. The displays where given an end of life build over a year ago."

FYI, the "replacement" are the models in the 2014 Advanced Series.

Personally, I'd grab any 3597 you can find (new or refrub) as they are IMHO simply the best Nuvi Garmin has ever built.

I've read nothing about any new models above the new Advanced series and really don't like any of these new Advanced models. I was half-tempted when the 3597LMTHD refurbs were going for $220 to get one as a spare for me.

If you want a newer model than what you have now and really want the 3597, I'd go for it now while they're still around. Having said that, they day after you take my advice, Garmin will announce a new Prestige series that you'd have preferred.

Good luck!

GARMIN finally creates a winner then promptly discontinues it.

Wonder what they are afraid of, success?

Thanks for your advise. Just ordered one from Costco Canada.

I hope we didn't steer you wrong.

I'm curious. What software issues are you having???????

It looks like GPSNation has a supply of 3597 factory refurbs right now at $250.

I have no experience with the company but the refurb is listed as coming with a 2-yr extended warranty and 45-day return period.

Unfortunately the US Costco does not have the 3597

That quote makes absolutely no sense to me. "we'll never see anything like the 3597 again"
1) I'm not sure I entirely trust what a distributor says
2) Garmin set a new precedent of navigation with that unit, why discontinue it with no replacement (the Advanced series doesn't count)
3) Garmin needs to move forward and innovate if they even HOPE of competing with smartphones. The 3597 was a step in the right direction. I need something BETTER than a smartphone, not comparable to it. Otherwise, why have a standalone GPS?

Received my new 3597 a few days ago and love it! It is well made (probably costly to produce) and works very well (especially the magnetic mount).

The only down side is cost. It is no doubt expensive as a standalone GPS comparing to smart phones. I wonder if this is the reason why Garmin dropping the Prestige series to concentrate on the more affordable and profitable Advanced series.

I agree with t923347 that Garmin needs to stay ahead of the smart phones in the navigation business and maintain its leadership with the Prestige series.

Let’s hope they do.

Hi,

I live in the UK and just bought the Nuvi 3598 LTM-D two weeks ago. This was the replacement for the 3597 which is being phased out. The 3598 is relatively easy to use, although I miss some features that other GPS Satnavs have, The magnetic mount with instant connectivity is pretty cool, no messing about with additional power cables once the mount is connected to your cars 12v feed. The digital receiver is incorporated into the 3598;s power feed cable which makes it rather bulky, and an external aerial is also plugged into that cable too. This makes for an untidy dashboard. However, I love the crystal clear glass screen and graphics with a rather 'flash' aluminum mobile phone casing look, it's mega slim design, which can easily be popped into my shirt pocket. According to some the 3598 is to be replaced too very shortly, by a 6" model in the Premium or Advanced range. That will be nice for the new owners of those prospective models, however, as is usual, us 3598 owners will be probably cast into the wind eventually. Taking the latter into consideration, the 3598 is still extremely expensive, although 10% discounts are being offered here in the UK, and again, this would indicates an imminent new models/ models appearance within 2014.
The terms and conditions in respect to the validity of Garmins free lifetime maps and traffic reports only applies to the "lifetime of the model" however long or short that may be, so I'll probably get stung when the said mentioned "new models" arrive this year.

Cheers to all,

John in the UK

Welcome to The Factory. What a great summary of this new model.

Ah, very interesting. I wonder if it'll jump the pond and come with a North America map.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/on-the-road/in-car-sat-navs/...

I see that it's a Premium Series model, above the new Advanced models and yet a different series name than the North American 3597 Prestige model. The owners manual is shared among all 35x7 and 35x8 models so it should behave very much like the 3597.

One issue that may be delaying availability in North America is the inclusion of the Cyclops Safety data in the European 3598 since the North American Cyclops file is incompatible with the newer nuvi models including the 3597 and presumably the 3598.

One thing I'm not clear about, UK John, is whether the 3598 includes Cyclops updates. I see that it comes with the current full European Cyclops Speed Camera file which can be updated, but I'm not sure if updates have to be purchased or if the 3598 comes with lifetime or a 1-year subscription. Let us know if you try to update your 3598's Cylcops data.

PS--Unless things are different on your side of the Atlantic, lifetime of the model should extend quite a long time after the model has been replaced, so I expect you will continue to receive map updates well into the future. We have models that have been discontinued many years ago which continue to receive map updates.

As I understand it, the 3598 is just a 3597 sold in the UK only and modified to support the British National Grid coordinates system. See this post over on the Garmin software forum: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?39258-garmin-nuvi-3...

Hi,

Thanks for your welcome.

I think it would be a gross mistake for Garmin not to included the Nuvi 3598 in its future marketing plans, the USA included. However, large corporations do the strangest of things many times, and of which I, and many others, would consider them to be "illogical" and foolhardy. So who knows what will transpire in the near future. I sincerely hope the USA get a taste of this model for as it's a rather splendid device with great eye and functional appeal. Its predecessor, the Nuvi 3597 is not too dissimilar in features and if I was a person looking for a Satnav now I'd be very tempted to grab one of those now whilst their cost is 'low (ish)' and availability good. It's been rumoured that once the 35**/ 36** are gone, Garmin are not intending to manufacturer offer such refined models again. But should we listen to rumour ??

At present the Cyclops is included in the UK retail 3598's on a 30 day free trial straight from the box after registering the unit with Garmin, with a £16.99 annual update premium thereafter. However, if you fail to pay the update premium after the 30 days trial period, the trial Cyclops data still remain functional on the device but auto-update is disabled. I'm not sure about the US compatibility / update issue though. Sorry.

My new Nuvi 3598=LTM-D brandishes Garmins very impressive and clear "Real Directions" when navigating. This feature is most helpful to me personally as I've tended to ignore primitive TTS on my other SatNavs. Dare I mention the split screen pop-up 3D images when approaching confusing junctions / interchanges. These are a brilliant aid to any driver. For those members who are not familiar with this feature, I've made a couple of these available for viewing on my personal Box.net account ( No ads. pop-ups or such crazy stuff. I promise ) just click the links below.

https://app.box.com/s/5qvghozpztljmr9btsxl

https://app.box.com/s/vzt1v18ltbez6pngnauo

On the identified "Life of the Model" terms which I mentioned previously, I too believe Garmin would honour updates for many years after cessation of their hardwares.

Keep smiling guys,

John in the uK

what is the difference between the 3598 and 3598? Thanks in advance.

On the UK Garmin site, the only differences I could find are digital traffic on the 3598, a 1-time Cyclops safety cameras file, and the 30£ difference in price:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/catalog/product/compareResul...

The 3598 is stated to come with 1-time edition of the Cyclops speed camera database. It appears that the European Cyclops file does not have a trial edition like exists for North America so a 3597 buyer would need to buy the annual or 1-time subscription to match the 3598's Cyclops warnings.

alandb has also stated that the 3598 can use the British National Grid system but I don't know if the European 3597 also can.

Given the digital 3D traffic on the European 3598LMT-D, it's more similar to the North American 3597LMTHD than the US 3597LMTHD is to the European 3597LMT. All in all, none of this matters to North American users since the 3598 is not available for the US.

The Cyclops files are not compatible with a 3597 in North America but does appear on the compatibility list for the UK & Ireland Cyclops files.

I can confirm that the North American files DO NOT work on a 3597 but have no idea what would make the UK version any different.

When I looked at the Cyclops files and compatibility with various nuvi models, I found that of all the Cyclops files for various geographic areas, only the North America Cyclops file was incompatible with some of the newer nuvi models.

It's therefore not that the UK/Ireland file is odd for being compatible with the 359x devices, it's only odd that the North America Cyclops is the exception by not working in the newer devices.

Man, I'm glad I got a 3597LMT when I did.

You would have thought that this was "THE" new way Garmin would be making their future GPS models from the 3597 video that was on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDpc7-L5QOk

So now it seems that someone decided to stick with the old ways?

i am not sure!
some time with new map, you need new voic or new firwar, because, some bug

Maybe give us an example of when this has happened.

I've owned 6 different Nuvi's since the original 350, that I bought in 2005. I can't think of any map update that required new voices, new firmware, or anything else in order to use it.

Garmin usually requires that you have the newest firmware installed on the Nuvi prior to downloading the map update. That's done before the map download, not as a result of downloading and installing the maps.

JUST SUCK?

Foursquare ... big deal. They didn't add much beyond that it seems.

i hope de Costco price going down ?

When I connected my 3597 to Garmin Express this morning it had an update but didn't say what it was (or I don't know how to tell). When I rebooted the nuvi after the update, it said installing new software and then I noted that the Software Version now shows 4.60

Not sure if it updated the FW or anything else as I don't know what those were prior to to the update.

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5967

I wish the NY Costco had the 3597 in stock.

is removed in Canada to

I just got my Nuvi 3597 from Newegg and noticed there doesn't seem to be an SD card slot. There are no directions except for mounting and safety information. Did I make a mistake to change from my 775t?

More on Owners Manual (p 12 for SD card):

http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/nuvi_35x7_OM_EN.pdf

In the manual on page 12 it states that your new toy supports a microSD & microSDHC memory card.

http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/nuvi_35x7_OM_EN.pdf

Cheers

1-0 for CraigW who's much faster

I guess I have to get a micro SD card now.

You will if you want to use an SD card in most any Nuvi built in the last 2+ years.

What size do you recommend?

If you delete all the unused garbage from the unit, there is no need for an SD. The 3597 has an 8 GB memory and I've got over 1.5GB free space on mine with the latest maps.

I just got the 3795 and love it. However, it provides the wrong directions for my work location. My old gps 775t was ablt to locate work without a problem but the 3795 leads me 2 miles to the west of the actual location. I don't know if it is the map upgrade or the GPS unit.

Hopefully you still have the 775 and can compare the settings.

When you say "locate work without a problem", exactly what do you mean?

I have my work address set as home. when I had the 775t (and the older map), it took me right to the building where I work. Now it is routing me on the same block but 2 miles to the west of where I work. I will have to compare it to the 775 when my son gets home for the holidays (he is using it now).

The big difference between your old and new devices is the method for addressing:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42527

In most cases, the newer door-to-door addressing is much more accurate than the older logical addressing but it seems not to be the case in your example. Is there anything at the "address" your new device takes you to? Does it have an address? It may be a coding error in the current map update version and may be fixed in future map updates.

Factory members sing the praises of the new door-to-door addressing:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42505

Since going back and forth from work to home is likely to be a common drive for you, my suggestion is to delete the saved address called Home which is your work location and create a new Home address by saving the desired location (tap your vehicle and save the location calling it Home) when you're parked outside your real work location.

I think you will find your new unit's address locating function to be much better than it was for the 775 for other addresses you select over the coming months.

A final thought: Being 2 miles off is quite the error. It reminds me of folks posting here every year or so stating that they created a file of US businesses and all the locations are mapped to the South Atlantic off the coast of Africa. With this in mind, have you double checked your work address on the new nuvi to ensure that there aren't a couple transposed digits or an otherwise incorrect numeric street address?

Good luck and have fun.

And i just bought a 2595.

I bought the 2597LMT back in August. It's basically the same thing as the 3597, except with a smaller non capacitive screen. Would my model be included in the discontinue list, or is it just the 3597 by itself?

I still love the sleek design of my Nuvi 3597 and the ease of use. I love the portability and how slim it is. I will have this for years to come I hope. If it's not broken I do not plan on updating it.

I am in total agreement. It is fun to use also.

When I went looking for a new Sat-Nav to replace my old Garmin 660FM. I checked the 3597 and was told then by Halfords that it was due to be discontinued, this was about 9 months ago. So went for the 3898LMDT-D model. now wondering now long this will be before being discontinued. Also how long the maps will be 'free' for it?

I wouldn't worry about it. Folks with Garmin models that were discontinued 10 years ago are still installing map updates with their Lifetime map subscriptions. I think the main risk is not from the model being discontinued, but whether Garmin maintains their partnership with the Here (Navteq) map maker. If that relationship falls apart, who knows what will happen to our lifetime map updates ... even on models that are not discontinued.

New units are now back in stock at some stores including Best Buy both on line and in many stores. Checked the stores in Tucson area recently and it was available for pick up in 4 Best Buy stores near to me.

I wish that Garmin would come here and read people comment before trashing a Garmin model.Does not make any sense,why discontinued a product that people are very happy with it like the 3597