Edit to add: For some reason the map install to the PC fails. The install to the Nuvi seems to have worked. Redownloading the PC maps to try installing them again.
Some investing appears to indicate the PC installer files for the map didn't download for some reason even though install to device and PC option was selected. Removing the download map files doesn't trigger a redownload of the PC installer map files in Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 (Windows).
Edit to add: For some reason the map install to the PC fails. The install to the Nuvi seems to have worked. Redownloading the PC maps to try installing them again.
Some investing appears to indicate the PC installer files for the map didn't download for some reason even though install to device and PC option was selected. Removing the download map files doesn't trigger a redownload of the PC installer map files in Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 (Windows).
I am still on Express 7.15.2 as 7.16 is not offered as an update for me. The map download to computer failed for me also ... map update to 3597 nuvi seems OK tho.
Incidentally, I notice that there were 2 JCV files downloaded for my 3597. I assume one is for the US map file and the other is for Canada/Mexico. I don't remember seeing separate JCV files on the 2023.20 map, but maybe I just missed it.
Yeah download and install maps to PC (Windows) fails no matter what I try. Tried deleting all the map files on the PC then redownloading the map to install to the Nuvi to see if that would trigger a download of the map installer files. It didn't. It appears just a single 49 MB Disk1.cab file is downloaded and that's it. Any time I select "Install to Computer" it ends up failing.
Seems as though several have commented that they can't do the latest map update and one common factor may be the mention of the "Download to computer" option being enabled. So perhaps something worth a test, is to try disabling the option and attempt another download.
I personally don't have the option enabled and haven't had any problems doing a nuvi 265WT and a nuvi 2689. I'm using GE 7.16.0.0 on a Win10 machine.
As with the 2023.20 update when Garmin went to 2 files for full NA (US file and Canada/Mexico file) some of the older Nuvi devices fail to get both files. POI Factory member Baumback came up with a creative solution that again worked for my nuvi 755T and nuvi 855 to get the full North America map installed on the old devices. Here is a link to the method he came up with: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/52369?page=1#comment-542244
Seems as though several have commented that they can't do the latest map update and one common factor may be the mention of the "Download to computer" option being enabled. So perhaps something worth a test, is to try disabling the option and attempt another download.
I personally don't have the option enabled and haven't had any problems doing a nuvi 265WT and a nuvi 2689. I'm using GE 7.16.0.0 on a Win10 machine.
The problem is there is no option to no enable download to computer. See my reply over on the Garmin subforum that has a screen capture of the Garmin Express post install of the maps to a Nuvi. Deleting the maps doesn't solve the issue, Garmin Express (for me) continues to show the Install to Device or Install to Computer buttons. Updating to Garmin Express 7.16.1.0 doesnt solve the issue.
The problem seems to be that the files for installing the PC maps are not downloaded. Just one single file gets downloaded:
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\RMU\NA\2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\Disk1.cab
I was asked to upgrade my Garmin Express then notified there were new maps.. Okay, install and walked away. Came back after supper and all done. On Windows 7 Pro.
Will see what’s new (or what they broke) tomorrow.
-- Lives in Edmonton AB A volunteer driver for Drive Happiness.ca and now (since June 20 2021) uses a DS65 to find his clients.
The problem seems to be that the files for installing the PC maps are not downloaded. Just one single file gets downloaded
There's more than just the cab file in there. The actual map image (D0783510A.img) is at
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\
RMU\NA2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\06-d0783-51\rev_0a .
SID, DB, and the JCV files can be found in
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\
RMU\NA2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\additions .
None of the above invalidates your main point that the PC install files are not being downloaded.
-- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
--Douglas Adams
Took three tries to install on my 3597 via Mac. I started with Computer and unit install. Computer got installed fine, but the unit showed on the the basic map got installed. I do have a 16 gb card and the install was silent, as usual, not squeaking about splitting the install.
Gave it another install mad it took about an hour, loading it from the computer. Still on the the basic map. So I took the SD card out, Reformatted it FAT32 and tried again. This time it too over an hour, fro the computer, and it took.
Not sue wha the problem is, but apparently the map files aren't being handled by GE properly. The files were on the computer. After the initial download, GE didn't go back to the web to get the files to install.
With respect to a topic titled "Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 Unable to install City Navigator North America 2024.10 to Computer", in the Garmin forums SUSSAMB reported 6 hours ago (approximately 1 AM Eastern time, "Latest Express update has resolved this." The thread was then locked, I guess by SUSSAMB. Many individuals are reporting the thread was locked prematurely as they still can't download a map to computer for use with Basecamp.
As a troubleshooting step I deleted the Map_Map.NA.2024.10 folder. Then attempt to Install to Computer from Garmin Express. After Garmin Express indicates an error there is, for me, just one single file; Disk1.cab in the IMG folder burred in the 2024.10 folder. No additional files or folders are downloaded.
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\RMU\NA\2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\Disk1.cab
The thread was then locked, I guess by SUSSAMB. Many individuals are reporting the thread was locked prematurely as they still can't download a map to computer for use with Basecamp.
Yeah not sure why they (SUSSAMB or someone else/mod) locked the thread even though it was indicated one had GE 7.16.1.0 installed and the issue still remains. They unlocked the locked thread and rolled the new thread someone else started into it.
At least I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having the problem of installing the maps to my computers. Have installed the maps on both my Nuvi 3597 and Drivesmart 51, one on a Windows 7 machine and other on a Windows 10 computer.
The Install to computer option fails as others are reporting both Win 7 and Win 10 computers and to 2 different Garmin GPS units...
Hopefully will be fixed soon.
Glad this forum exist so not fighting the problem in the dark!
I'm not downloading the new map to my computer but it installed just fine on my 2495 LMT and Drivesmart 55. John from PA mentioned (on another thread) that GE 7.16.1.0 still says that there is a new update available even though it's already installed. I don't see that on mine with and without the GPS devices plugged in.
John from PA mentioned (on another thread) that GE 7.16.1.0 still says that there is a new update available even though it's already installed.
This morning, without having done anything except a reboot, that message cleared a few seconds after opening GE. I do not run GE in the background. I’m speculating but wonder if there. Is a lag on the Garmin servers and by this AM the server had been updated with my activity.
As a troubleshooting step I deleted the Map_Map.NA.2024.10 folder. Then attempt to Install to Computer from Garmin Express. After Garmin Express indicates an error there is, for me, just one single file; Disk1.cab in the IMG folder burred in the 2024.10 folder. No additional files or folders are downloaded.
C:ProgramDataGARMINCoreServiceDownloadsMapMap_Map.NA.2024.10RMUNA2024_1056810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410IMGDisk1.cab
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
-- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
--Douglas Adams
I get the error message when attempting to install 2024.10 on my PC - but there was no problem installing the new map on my Macbook. This leads me to believe that it's a PC issue. Maybe the PC version of Garmin Express is the problem. Just a guess!
...Garmin Express installed the new maps to both Boot Camp and my GPS without apparent problems. I also installed the large JCV files that mcginkleschmidt makes available for download. When I started Boot Camp I installed the current update, and I deleted map updates older than two years.
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
As a troubleshooting experiment, delete the downloaded Map folder, which contains the maps copied to the Garmin device, then try the install to computer option in GE. Then check what files have been downloaded after GE indicates an error.
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
As a troubleshooting experiment, delete the downloaded Map folder, which contains the maps copied to the Garmin device, then try the install to computer option in GE. Then check what files have been downloaded after GE indicates an error.
I just tried this. I deleted the 2014 folder in ProgramData/Garmin/CoreService, then fired up (Windows) GE 7.16.1.0, and tried a Map Update to Computer.
The result was that in just a few seconds, not after a full download, GE reported the red Error Message. No files were downloaded.
Unless I'm missing something, at least Windows users of GE will need to wait for yet another GE update from Garmin.
It is frustrating. I'm no programmer so I don't know all that's involved and required to create a revision in software. But given Garmin's frequent failures in GE updates to work on On the Road devices, it shows that they don't test an update before offering it. So often, if Garmin had just a few Windows and Mac computers, and a few nuvi/Drive devices, they could test the Update to Device, Update to Device and Computer, and Update to Computer. That they don't do this simple test before offering it to the public suggests that their priorities are not reflected to On the Road devices.
[It is frustrating. I'm no programmer so I don't know all that's involved and required to create a revision in software. But given Garmin's frequent failures in GE updates to work on On the Road devices, it shows that they don't test an update before offering it. So often, if Garmin had just a few Windows and Mac computers, and a few nuvi/Drive devices, they could test the Update to Device, Update to Device and Computer, and Update to Computer. That they don't do this simple test before offering it to the public suggests that their priorities are not reflected to On the Road devices.
I now also maintain 4 of their watches for family members and myself. All of these also use GE.
And the lack of Quality Control Testing is evident on their watch software updates also. So it's not just isolated to Road devices.
It seems like it's Garmin Policy across the board. DON'T TEST, LET THE USERS FIND THE PROBLEMS.
Can you imagine if this sort of software testing applied to cell phones? That company would be out of business in a very short time.
-- I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.
It seems like it's Garmin Policy across the board. DON'T TEST, LET THE USERS FIND THE PROBLEMS.
Can you imagine if this sort of software testing applied to cell phones? That company would be out of business in a very short time.
LOL…I grew up (early 1960’s) in an area of northern Ohio that was proliferated with US auto manufacturers. There was at least one final assembly plant for one of the big three. Letting the users be a part of quality control was exactly the philosophy the manufacturer had. The cars were driven from the assembly line to the car carriers and the dealers in conjunction with the customers were expected to find any (hopefully) minor defects.
I can remember as well a time when Consumer Reports had a rating criteria that was essentially “defects at time of delivery”. In 1986, I purchased my one and only Mercedes Benz, actually a special order car. It arrived with a dime sized bubble in the windshield, driver’s side and clearly visible. The interior lights blinked in sequence with the turn signals. I also felt the audio system sucked and was told it was optimized for the human ear. The system actually didn’t have a left right balance. At the time I worked in acoustics so I made a tape of discrete left and right tones. Ultimately all the passenger side speakers were found to be disconnected.
couple differences and one thing still the same...
Prior to 7.16.1.0 Update.... GE Expresss saw 2 updates for each 2689 (Map and TZ) and a Map Update for 660...
After 7.16.1.0 Update.... 660 No longer is reporting a Map Update is available....So this Update has Axed some models....
Next thing I noticed: During the Map Update at 50% point, Map Update changes to ACTIVATE MAPS, then, Goes Back to Map Update (because of 2 major files now??)
And Last thing I notices.... For many versions now.... At about the 80% finished area... the slow USB file transfer slowly speeds up... Not to what I've seen in the past with this version.... but it still speeds up.... Why not this speed from the get go????
I'm just reporting what I'm seeing...
-- A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever....
And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
I had the same problem where GE failed to install to computer.
I tried installing from the Drive Smart 65 to Basecamp, but that didn't work.
I then Reinstalled the map to the DS65 from Garmin Express and after that completed, I Installed to computer from Garmin Express and this time it worked.
Yep
It is
2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.
Updating
Now, device plus PC map. Download rate peaked at about 43.5 MB/s. Copying 8+ GB's to the Nuvi is snails pace (4.8 MB/s) as always over USB2.0.
Remember, on Windows, one can remove the old maps and downloaded map installer files to free up space if one needs to.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/45648?page=2#comment-418223
Edit to add: For some reason the map install to the PC fails. The install to the Nuvi seems to have worked. Redownloading the PC maps to try installing them again.
Some investing appears to indicate the PC installer files for the map didn't download for some reason even though install to device and PC option was selected. Removing the download map files doesn't trigger a redownload of the PC installer map files in Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 (Windows).
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Finally........
Hope it was worth the wait...
On it!
On it!
Thanks ... at long last !!!
Will get on it over the weekend. Any word on a large JCV file?
--
it's the dog's fault
Garmin DriveSmart 5 My other toys: IMac quad-core i3, Mac Mini M1. MacOS: Ventura 13.3.1 The dog's name is Ginger.
2024.10
Edit to add: For some reason the map install to the PC fails. The install to the Nuvi seems to have worked. Redownloading the PC maps to try installing them again.
Some investing appears to indicate the PC installer files for the map didn't download for some reason even though install to device and PC option was selected. Removing the download map files doesn't trigger a redownload of the PC installer map files in Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 (Windows).
I am still on Express 7.15.2 as 7.16 is not offered as an update for me. The map download to computer failed for me also ... map update to 3597 nuvi seems OK tho.
Incidentally, I notice that there were 2 JCV files downloaded for my 3597. I assume one is for the US map file and the other is for Canada/Mexico. I don't remember seeing separate JCV files on the 2023.20 map, but maybe I just missed it.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
PC Install Fails
The map download to computer failed for me also
Yeah download and install maps to PC (Windows) fails no matter what I try. Tried deleting all the map files on the PC then redownloading the map to install to the Nuvi to see if that would trigger a download of the map installer files. It didn't. It appears just a single 49 MB Disk1.cab file is downloaded and that's it. Any time I select "Install to Computer" it ends up failing.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
The map download to computer
The map download to computer failed for me also
Ginpi
Issue might be with "download to computer"
Seems as though several have commented that they can't do the latest map update and one common factor may be the mention of the "Download to computer" option being enabled. So perhaps something worth a test, is to try disabling the option and attempt another download.
I personally don't have the option enabled and haven't had any problems doing a nuvi 265WT and a nuvi 2689. I'm using GE 7.16.0.0 on a Win10 machine.
John from PA
Will wait for an update to
Will wait for an update to the update before updating.
Last 2 releases for the car were like this too. They release it.. then pull it a week later to fix bugs, rerelease 3-4 weeks later, fixed.
Computer install Failed here too
Computer install failed here too.
Hope fix is soon.
Metricman DriveSmart 76 Williamsburg, VA
Thanks!
Just cleaned the space again!
Garmin DS55 with Traffic
Update went well to GPS on
Update went well to GPS on DriveSmart 65 and 86.
wil01
Full NA map (both files) on old Nuvi devices.
As with the 2023.20 update when Garmin went to 2 files for full NA (US file and Canada/Mexico file) some of the older Nuvi devices fail to get both files. POI Factory member Baumback came up with a creative solution that again worked for my nuvi 755T and nuvi 855 to get the full North America map installed on the old devices. Here is a link to the method he came up with: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/52369?page=1#comment-542244
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Duplicate post ...
removed.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Duplicate post ...
removed.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Thanks
Updating now.
Yep
Will wait for an update to the update before updating.
Last 2 releases for the car were like this too. They release it.. then pull it a week later to fix bugs, rerelease 3-4 weeks later, fixed.
Sounds like a good plan. I'm going to do the same.
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.
Maps
Seems as though several have commented that they can't do the latest map update and one common factor may be the mention of the "Download to computer" option being enabled. So perhaps something worth a test, is to try disabling the option and attempt another download.
I personally don't have the option enabled and haven't had any problems doing a nuvi 265WT and a nuvi 2689. I'm using GE 7.16.0.0 on a Win10 machine.
The problem is there is no option to no enable download to computer. See my reply over on the Garmin subforum that has a screen capture of the Garmin Express post install of the maps to a Nuvi. Deleting the maps doesn't solve the issue, Garmin Express (for me) continues to show the Install to Device or Install to Computer buttons. Updating to Garmin Express 7.16.1.0 doesnt solve the issue.
The problem seems to be that the files for installing the PC maps are not downloaded. Just one single file gets downloaded:
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\RMU\NA\2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\Disk1.cab
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Finally map shows new area
Finally on the 2014.10 map it shows the new subdivision that was built south of me 2 years ago.
Thanks
I was asked to upgrade my Garmin Express then notified there were new maps.. Okay, install and walked away. Came back after supper and all done. On Windows 7 Pro.
Will see what’s new (or what they broke) tomorrow.
Lives in Edmonton AB A volunteer driver for Drive Happiness.ca and now (since June 20 2021) uses a DS65 to find his clients.
Being a bit pedantic I am. Sorry.
The problem seems to be that the files for installing the PC maps are not downloaded. Just one single file gets downloaded
There's more than just the cab file in there. The actual map image (D0783510A.img) is at
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\
RMU\NA2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\06-d0783-51\rev_0a .
SID, DB, and the JCV files can be found in
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\
RMU\NA2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\additions .
None of the above invalidates your main point that the PC install files are not being downloaded.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
Large JCV File Download Here
Will get on it over the weekend. Any word on a large JCV file?
--
it's the dog's fault
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/52936
Took three tries to install
Took three tries to install on my 3597 via Mac. I started with Computer and unit install. Computer got installed fine, but the unit showed on the the basic map got installed. I do have a 16 gb card and the install was silent, as usual, not squeaking about splitting the install.
Gave it another install mad it took about an hour, loading it from the computer. Still on the the basic map. So I took the SD card out, Reformatted it FAT32 and tried again. This time it too over an hour, fro the computer, and it took.
Not sue wha the problem is, but apparently the map files aren't being handled by GE properly. The files were on the computer. After the initial download, GE didn't go back to the web to get the files to install.
Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267
I was just about to report
I was just about to report this, good thing I searched first.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
Garmin Express updated to
Garmin Express updated to 7.16.1.0 Maps updated to my Drive Smart 61 but still unable to update to Basecamp
Ginpi
download to computer problem may still exist
With respect to a topic titled "Garmin Express 7.16.0.0 Unable to install City Navigator North America 2024.10 to Computer", in the Garmin forums SUSSAMB reported 6 hours ago (approximately 1 AM Eastern time, "Latest Express update has resolved this." The thread was then locked, I guess by SUSSAMB. Many individuals are reporting the thread was locked prematurely as they still can't download a map to computer for use with Basecamp.
Various topics on the matter at https://forums.garmin.com/apps-software/mac-windows-software...
John from PA
Yes, but - - -
Hope it was worth the wait...
The question is 'will we notice the change"?
The file size isn't all that much larger than the last map which suggests that the changes were relatively minor.
Install to Computer Fail
There's more than just the cab file in there.
As a troubleshooting step I deleted the Map_Map.NA.2024.10 folder. Then attempt to Install to Computer from Garmin Express. After Garmin Express indicates an error there is, for me, just one single file; Disk1.cab in the IMG folder burred in the 2024.10 folder. No additional files or folders are downloaded.
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map\Map_Map.NA.2024.10\RMU\NA\2024_10\56810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410\IMG\Disk1.cab
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Locked Garmin Support Thread Unlocked
The thread was then locked, I guess by SUSSAMB. Many individuals are reporting the thread was locked prematurely as they still can't download a map to computer for use with Basecamp.
Yeah not sure why they (SUSSAMB or someone else/mod) locked the thread even though it was indicated one had GE 7.16.1.0 installed and the issue still remains. They unlocked the locked thread and rolled the new thread someone else started into it.
https://forums.garmin.com/apps-software/mac-windows-software...
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Map Update
Just finished updating with no problems
At least I'm glad to see I'm
At least I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having the problem of installing the maps to my computers. Have installed the maps on both my Nuvi 3597 and Drivesmart 51, one on a Windows 7 machine and other on a Windows 10 computer.
The Install to computer option fails as others are reporting both Win 7 and Win 10 computers and to 2 different Garmin GPS units...
Hopefully will be fixed soon.
Glad this forum exist so not fighting the problem in the dark!
Download to computer.
At least I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having the problem of installing the maps to my computers.
Yes, it is definitely still broken with Garmin Express 7.16.1.0 on Windows computers. I wonder if it is working on Mac computers?
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Not downloading to computer
I'm not downloading the new map to my computer but it installed just fine on my 2495 LMT and Drivesmart 55. John from PA mentioned (on another thread) that GE 7.16.1.0 still says that there is a new update available even though it's already installed. I don't see that on mine with and without the GPS devices plugged in.
New update message finally cleared
John from PA mentioned (on another thread) that GE 7.16.1.0 still says that there is a new update available even though it's already installed.
This morning, without having done anything except a reboot, that message cleared a few seconds after opening GE. I do not run GE in the background. I’m speculating but wonder if there. Is a lag on the Garmin servers and by this AM the server had been updated with my activity.
John from PA
Thanks
Thank you. I'll have to update my Garmin once I get home next week.
Garmin Nuvi 2450
Thanks
Updating now
Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the tip.
nuvi 2460LMT
three updates per year to two updates per year?
Is 203 days between map releases merely an event or have we changed from three updates per year to two updates per year?
ok
There's more than just the cab file in there.
As a troubleshooting step I deleted the Map_Map.NA.2024.10 folder. Then attempt to Install to Computer from Garmin Express. After Garmin Express indicates an error there is, for me, just one single file; Disk1.cab in the IMG folder burred in the 2024.10 folder. No additional files or folders are downloaded.
C:ProgramDataGARMINCoreServiceDownloadsMapMap_Map.NA.2024.10RMUNA2024_1056810671-8e8b-4f10-b768-ae70fc908410IMGDisk1.cab
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
2024.10 map install on PC?Mac
I get the error message when attempting to install 2024.10 on my PC - but there was no problem installing the new map on my Macbook. This leads me to believe that it's a PC issue. Maybe the PC version of Garmin Express is the problem. Just a guess!
Richard
On my old iMac...
...Garmin Express installed the new maps to both Boot Camp and my GPS without apparent problems. I also installed the large JCV files that mcginkleschmidt makes available for download. When I started Boot Camp I installed the current update, and I deleted map updates older than two years.
Ted - Garmin Nuvi 1450 LM
PC Install
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
As a troubleshooting experiment, delete the downloaded Map folder, which contains the maps copied to the Garmin device, then try the install to computer option in GE. Then check what files have been downloaded after GE indicates an error.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Tried, and failed
I am having problems downloading the map to PC as well, and yet I have the files mentioned. Likely because I updated my DriveSmart 65 prior to trying to download the map.
As a troubleshooting experiment, delete the downloaded Map folder, which contains the maps copied to the Garmin device, then try the install to computer option in GE. Then check what files have been downloaded after GE indicates an error.
I just tried this. I deleted the 2014 folder in ProgramData/Garmin/CoreService, then fired up (Windows) GE 7.16.1.0, and tried a Map Update to Computer.
The result was that in just a few seconds, not after a full download, GE reported the red Error Message. No files were downloaded.
Unless I'm missing something, at least Windows users of GE will need to wait for yet another GE update from Garmin.
It is frustrating. I'm no programmer so I don't know all that's involved and required to create a revision in software. But given Garmin's frequent failures in GE updates to work on On the Road devices, it shows that they don't test an update before offering it. So often, if Garmin had just a few Windows and Mac computers, and a few nuvi/Drive devices, they could test the Update to Device, Update to Device and Computer, and Update to Computer. That they don't do this simple test before offering it to the public suggests that their priorities are not reflected to On the Road devices.
GE Log File
The GE log apparently shows a MD5 hash comparison mismatch when trying to run the Install to Computer option.
2023-02-03 08:09:44.1477 | 26 | I | Starting Download {@Downloadable}2023-02-03 08:09:44.3946 | 26 | I | 3e876e05 - Existing file MD5 comparison. Expected: d8f1190acdf521b1a619eb681473acc7 Actual: d8f1190acdf521b1a619eb681473acc7
2023-02-03 08:09:44.3956 | 26 | I | Starting Download {@Downloadable}
2023-02-03 08:09:44.5650 | 34 | I | 0cc4943f - Beginning download at byte index 0. (OK)
2023-02-03 08:09:45.1209 | 25 | W | 0cc4943f - MD5 comparison failed. Expected: 8ad6ddcdfd85d08f76be92ba7710deb2 Actual: f4a44e8ac4a1616761a3d67fd47645b7
2023-02-03 08:09:45.4817 | 25 | E | RetryOnFault failed 1 times out of 1.
Networking.DownloadManager.HashMismatchException: Exception of type 'Networking.DownloadManager.HashMismatchException' was thrown.
at Networking.DownloadManager.DownloadManager.d__6.MoveNext()
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Thanks for the heads up
Will install this weekend.
Nuvi 3597 LMT
well
[It is frustrating. I'm no programmer so I don't know all that's involved and required to create a revision in software. But given Garmin's frequent failures in GE updates to work on On the Road devices, it shows that they don't test an update before offering it. So often, if Garmin had just a few Windows and Mac computers, and a few nuvi/Drive devices, they could test the Update to Device, Update to Device and Computer, and Update to Computer. That they don't do this simple test before offering it to the public suggests that their priorities are not reflected to On the Road devices.
I now also maintain 4 of their watches for family members and myself. All of these also use GE.
And the lack of Quality Control Testing is evident on their watch software updates also. So it's not just isolated to Road devices.
It seems like it's Garmin Policy across the board. DON'T TEST, LET THE USERS FIND THE PROBLEMS.
Can you imagine if this sort of software testing applied to cell phones? That company would be out of business in a very short time.
I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.
We are all “testers”
It seems like it's Garmin Policy across the board. DON'T TEST, LET THE USERS FIND THE PROBLEMS.
Can you imagine if this sort of software testing applied to cell phones? That company would be out of business in a very short time.
LOL…I grew up (early 1960’s) in an area of northern Ohio that was proliferated with US auto manufacturers. There was at least one final assembly plant for one of the big three. Letting the users be a part of quality control was exactly the philosophy the manufacturer had. The cars were driven from the assembly line to the car carriers and the dealers in conjunction with the customers were expected to find any (hopefully) minor defects.
I can remember as well a time when Consumer Reports had a rating criteria that was essentially “defects at time of delivery”. In 1986, I purchased my one and only Mercedes Benz, actually a special order car. It arrived with a dime sized bubble in the windshield, driver’s side and clearly visible. The interior lights blinked in sequence with the turn signals. I also felt the audio system sucked and was told it was optimized for the human ear. The system actually didn’t have a left right balance. At the time I worked in acoustics so I made a tape of discrete left and right tones. Ultimately all the passenger side speakers were found to be disconnected.
Maybe car manufacturer’s should pay the consumer?
John from PA
couple differences and one thing still the same...
Prior to 7.16.1.0 Update.... GE Expresss saw 2 updates for each 2689 (Map and TZ) and a Map Update for 660...
After 7.16.1.0 Update.... 660 No longer is reporting a Map Update is available....So this Update has Axed some models....
Next thing I noticed: During the Map Update at 50% point, Map Update changes to ACTIVATE MAPS, then, Goes Back to Map Update (because of 2 major files now??)
And Last thing I notices.... For many versions now.... At about the 80% finished area... the slow USB file transfer slowly speeds up... Not to what I've seen in the past with this version.... but it still speeds up.... Why not this speed from the get go????
I'm just reporting what I'm seeing...
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
Somehow I Got it to Work
I had the same problem where GE failed to install to computer.
I tried installing from the Drive Smart 65 to Basecamp, but that didn't work.
I then Reinstalled the map to the DS65 from Garmin Express and after that completed, I Installed to computer from Garmin Express and this time it worked.
Gerry
Edit: this is on a laptop running Win 7