Just upgraded from a 3590lmt to a drivesmart 55

 

Like the title says, upgraded, figured it was time. the 3590 was 8 years old. I like the 55 mostly and added a ton of POI's. It's faster and BT pairs better (but still has horrible issues with pairing when you turn the device on, and I know it's not my note 9.. Believe me, the 3590 BT stack was way worse, it wouldn't even let the device shut down unless I turned off BT). Just FYI, same stuff happens with a old galaxy s5.

Overall, I'm pleased with the enhancements and that it even let me use my old skeleton hand car icon (that isn't on the garmin website anymore). This will be nice until I buy a car with a huge built in nav.

OK, I take some of that

OK, I take some of that back. after a few days with this thing the BT is really aggravating me. 95% of the time it wont repair unless I remove it and totally repair it under a new name, and then 50% of the time it wont add the hands free option.
BT isn't new technology, why can't garmin get it right? Every model I've had since the 765 has had some sort of horrible bluetooth issue.

When it works it's great, but what you have to go through to get it to work is like jumping through hoops.

I have no other BT devices paired to my phone or in my car either, and manually going into the phone to tell it to connect is also hit or miss to pair.

Are you using the Drive App,

Are you using the Drive App, or the SmartLink? Smartlink no longer works with the Drivesmart Series.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

Ah, good catch maybe

phranc wrote:

Are you using the Drive App, or the SmartLink? Smartlink no longer works with the Drivesmart Series.

FYI, the old Smartphone Link app (note that these are the Android apps but they can also be found for iPhones, I expect):

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.garmin.and...

Compatible devices:

• Garmin Drive™, Garmin DriveSmart™, Garmin DriveAssist™, Garmin DriveLuxe™ automotive navigators
• Garmin RV and Camper navigators
• zūmo motorcycle navigators
• dēzl truck navigators
• some nüvi automotive navigators (3597/3598/2x17/2x18/2x97/2x98/2x67/2x68/2577)

and the newer Garmin Drive app for Garmin's newer GPS devices including the DriveSmart 55:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.garmin.and...

Compatible devices:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/666925#devices

or

AVTEX Tourer Two
Camper/RV 701, 702, and 703
Camper/RV 780 MT
Camper/RV 785 MT
Garmin Dash Cam 46
Garmin Dash Cam 56
Garmin Dash Cam 66W
Garmin Dash Cam Mini
Garmin Dash Cam Tandem
Garmin DriveSmart 55 MT/EX
Garmin DriveSmart 65 MT
Garmin DriveSmart 65 MT with Amazon Alexa
Garmin DriveSmart 71 EX
Garmin Speak
Garmin Speak Plus

Bluetooth pairing.

drezprime wrote:

I have no other BT devices paired to my phone or in my car either, and manually going into the phone to tell it to connect is also hit or miss to pair.

Does this mean that your car does not have a hands free phone feature built in? I found on my Garmin devices that the Bluetooth connection fails if I have the "hands free" calling feature turned on in both the Garmin device and on my Kia's infotainment system. When I turn the hands free calling feature off in the Garmin, the Bluetooth for Smartphone Link (traffic) pairs every time. I prefer it this way so I can use the steering wheel buttons, microphone and speaker on the Kia for phone calls.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

no tech in my 2006 santa fe

alandb wrote:
drezprime wrote:

I have no other BT devices paired to my phone or in my car either, and manually going into the phone to tell it to connect is also hit or miss to pair.

Does this mean that your car does not have a hands free phone feature built in? I found on my Garmin devices that the Bluetooth connection fails if I have the "hands free" calling feature turned on in both the Garmin device and on my Kia's infotainment system. When I turn the hands free calling feature off in the Garmin, the Bluetooth for Smartphone Link (traffic) pairs every time. I prefer it this way so I can use the steering wheel buttons, microphone and speaker on the Kia for phone calls.

Im using the drive app (the one that works with the 55).
My car is a 2006 so it has NO technology except a cassette player.
It will not automatically pair, If I turn off BT on both devices, enable it on the gps first, then on my note 9, then MANUALLY click pair to the gps it pairs 50% of the time with 25% of the time hands free working. It's irritating.

Android or Apple?

drezprime wrote:
alandb wrote:
drezprime wrote:

I have no other BT devices paired to my phone or in my car either, and manually going into the phone to tell it to connect is also hit or miss to pair.

Does this mean that your car does not have a hands free phone feature built in? I found on my Garmin devices that the Bluetooth connection fails if I have the "hands free" calling feature turned on in both the Garmin device and on my Kia's infotainment system. When I turn the hands free calling feature off in the Garmin, the Bluetooth for Smartphone Link (traffic) pairs every time. I prefer it this way so I can use the steering wheel buttons, microphone and speaker on the Kia for phone calls.

Im using the drive app (the one that works with the 55).
My car is a 2006 so it has NO technology except a cassette player.
It will not automatically pair, If I turn off BT on both devices, enable it on the gps first, then on my note 9, then MANUALLY click pair to the gps it pairs 50% of the time with 25% of the time hands free working. It's irritating.

I don't follow this too carefully but in the past, it seems to me that the iPhones have worse issues with Garmin BT issues than Android users do.

What smartphone do you use? Also for others, is my observation in agreement with your thoughts?

phone

CraigW wrote:
drezprime wrote:
alandb wrote:
drezprime wrote:

I have no other BT devices paired to my phone or in my car either, and manually going into the phone to tell it to connect is also hit or miss to pair.

Does this mean that your car does not have a hands free phone feature built in? I found on my Garmin devices that the Bluetooth connection fails if I have the "hands free" calling feature turned on in both the Garmin device and on my Kia's infotainment system. When I turn the hands free calling feature off in the Garmin, the Bluetooth for Smartphone Link (traffic) pairs every time. I prefer it this way so I can use the steering wheel buttons, microphone and speaker on the Kia for phone calls.

Im using the drive app (the one that works with the 55).
My car is a 2006 so it has NO technology except a cassette player.
It will not automatically pair, If I turn off BT on both devices, enable it on the gps first, then on my note 9, then MANUALLY click pair to the gps it pairs 50% of the time with 25% of the time hands free working. It's irritating.

I don't follow this too carefully but in the past, it seems to me that the iPhones have worse issues with Garmin BT issues than Android users do.

What smartphone do you use? Also for others, is my observation in agreement with your thoughts?

Im using a note 9 running oreo (android 8, i never upgraded to 9 or 10).
Anyway, I think I found the problem. Knox and its secure folder. I started noticing a secure folder notification when pairing was taking place that would disappear when pairing would fail. If I went in the secure folder with my credentials the GPS pairs perfect EVERY TIME.
Why? who knows. It works, it's a extra step but it works.

Pairing my 2689 is hit and miss

Pairing my 2689 is not worth the hassle. I have a hands free system that pairs my phone. Trying to add my Nuvi 2689 because evidently the caller would show on the screen.. turns into an exercise of frustration and having to re-pair my phone.

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Lives in Edmonton AB A volunteer driver for Drive Happiness.ca and uses a 2689 to find my way.

Great!

drezprime wrote:

Im using a note 9 running oreo (android 8, i never upgraded to 9 or 10).
Anyway, I think I found the problem. Knox and its secure folder. I started noticing a secure folder notification when pairing was taking place that would disappear when pairing would fail. If I went in the secure folder with my credentials the GPS pairs perfect EVERY TIME.
Why? who knows. It works, it's a extra step but it works.

Glad you got it resolved, and maybe this will be helpful to others.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon