Directions with proper English

 

What bugs me when I use my Garmin is "turn right on Main St". If you are NOT ON Main St. you can't turn right ON Main St. You can only turn right ONTO Main St.

Does it bug you? I have tried to change it but Garmin uses the same ON for "destination is on the left", which is correct English.

It is like "I am going to jump in the shower" Why would you do a stupid thing like that? You might mean you are going to jump INTO the shower.
But don't slip, fall, and hurt yourself either way.

Is there a way to add ONTO to the vocabulary and make the turn statement use it instead of ON?

Garmin must not speak English as a first language, or second maybe.

Code writers

Most program code writers are millennials that don't know the difference between "there" & "their" or "its" & "it's" or "to" & "too", so I just let it slide because "on" & "onto" is just too deep for them to care about.

And you can blame the public schools for that!

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You've said it

metricman wrote:

Most program code writers are millennials that don't know the difference between "there" & "their" or "its" & "it's" or "to" & "too", so I just let it slide because "on" & "onto" is just too deep for them to care about. And you can blame the public schools for that!

English is really not my first language, but I see errors in other people's writings all the time!
But I think I've had an advantage since I love to read!

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As an engineer, my diploma

As an engineer, my diploma allows me to misspell words. However, I am thankful to spell check. Apparently, many people do not even know what red underlined words indicate. Of course, spell check can't handle typos like nerd and need. But engineers are designed to get details right, like "to" and "too", and know the difference between turning "on" or "onto" a road or jumping "in" or "into" a shower.
So, as long as Garmin and lots of other companies want to set a bad example by hiring school dropouts to edit and proof read their copy, it will just get worse as it has been since the internet happened. Or maybe that just made it a lot more visible. Of course, anything you hear/read on the internet or other public media is the truth, right?

Hmm

ruggb wrote:

So, as long as Garmin and lots of other companies want to set a bad example by hiring school dropouts....

They are probably ALL high school grads, and that in itself is a sad comment on our school systems.

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Language

What I find even worse is "press 2 for English"

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Under no circumstances whatsoever, will logic and common sense be tolerated.

The real question.

Is that American English or the REAL English i.e Aluminium or Aluminum?
During my three weeks in Tennessee over Xmas, I continued my quest to convert my US friends to speak the real English. Plus taught them how to make a real cup of tea i.e. with milk.
"Open debate about the correct use of English"!!

LOL

Nah, that's why we had the American Revolution in 1776.
Enough of the King's English, and milk in tea.

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

But, I will have a wee dram of the good Scottish Malt on a regular basis.

When in Rome... and all that!

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I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

Reading

Melaqueman wrote:
metricman wrote:

Most program code writers are millennials that don't know the difference between "there" & "their" or "its" & "it's" or "to" & "too", so I just let it slide because "on" & "onto" is just too deep for them to care about. And you can blame the public schools for that!

English is really not my first language, but I see errors in other people's writings all the time!
But I think I've had an advantage since I love to read!

I'm with you. While English IS my first language I grew up reading. The TV was pretty much always broken and we just went to the library all the time and got lots of books. (I did fix the TV myself when I as 13. Star Trek came out on TV and I HAD to have Star Trek!).

I always did very well in English classes in school and, when I was forced to take a writing class in University (required as part of my degree), the instructor told me after the first week that I didn't need to attend classes as I was already writing well above the level he was trying to have students achieve.

Reading, spelling, grammar, and sentence construction are lost arts these days. The local newspaper is a source of trauma each day. Reading online forums can make one cringe on a regular basis.

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Misleading Audio Turn Phrase

Our in-dash TomTom has a very misleading audio phrase: "... turn right ahead ...". What the TomTom should be saying is that the turn will soon be coming up. Until, I got used to this mischaracterization, it caused us to hit the breaks prematurely. Very dangerous.

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Stopped?

Steve R. wrote:

Our in-dash TomTom has a very misleading audio phrase: "... turn right ahead ...". What the TomTom should be saying is that the turn will soon be coming up. Until, I got used to this mischaracterization, it caused us to hit the breaks prematurely. Very dangerous.

You would have stopped a lot faster if you had used the brakes!

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and

phranc wrote:
Steve R. wrote:

Our in-dash TomTom has a very misleading audio phrase: "... turn right ahead ...". What the TomTom should be saying is that the turn will soon be coming up. Until, I got used to this mischaracterization, it caused us to hit the breaks prematurely. Very dangerous.

You would have stopped a lot faster if you had used the brakes!

And his GPS went down the shoot!!!

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Texting

Also consider that most "Texting" users don't really care. If a word is misspelled (their or there for example), the sender assumes that the receiver will automatically understand what was meant. They often don't check for incorrect substitution by spell checking programs. I've seen some pretty hilarious replacements by the spellcheck program.

But then again, I wonder if they really know the difference between there & their!

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Where have all the editors gone?

Melaqueman wrote:

...English is really not my first language, but I see errors in other people's writings all the time!...

I'm old enough to still read a newspaper (look it up) every day, and there are all kinds of misspellings and grammar errors. When I come across errors my eyeballs fairly leap out of my head. In the old days, copy editors went over every submission looking for correctness, readability, and attribution. Where'd they all go? I miss 'em.

Phil

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"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."

One thing I loved

was a section in Readers Digest where a certain word was given and four definitions.
Proud to say I never went lower than 75% right!

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Oh yes

KenSny wrote:

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

When I worked in DC and went to buy my first car I fell foul of that, asked the salesman to open the boot and bonnet!!

As for not parking on the pavement, wouldn't dream of it, that's for pedestrians … lol

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people

still use Garmin? j/k

I suppose we all worry about different things, but this one is seemingly insignificant in the big picture.

What affect does it have anyway? haha that's one of my pet peeves affect/effect

Or if somebody says good riddens! Or say Ice Ice Baby, some think Vanilla's rapping A1A "Detroit" Avenue

It's an imperfect world, but these are small problems

used

sussamb wrote:
KenSny wrote:

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

When I worked in DC and went to buy my first car I fell foul of that, asked the salesman to open the boot and bonnet!!

As for not parking on the pavement, wouldn't dream of it, that's for pedestrians … lol

Used to have a coworker who would leave me voicemails, to give him a bell. Why should I buy that for him, he was a SVP he could easily just buy it for himself? It wasn't even Christmas (can I say that here?) or his birthday.

Lucky English

They'll knock you up in the morning! But don't get your knickers in a twist, that means to wake you up!
They'll ring you up to gab, while you're watching the telly.

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As an engineer, you...

ruggb wrote:

As an engineer, my diploma...

Your diploma is an engineer?

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Directions With Proper English

KenSny wrote:

Nah, that's why we had the American Revolution in 1776.
Enough of the King's English, and milk in tea.

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

But, I will have a wee dram of the good Scottish Malt on a regular basis.

When in Rome... and all that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaz2DjV0KwU

Crikey!

Jim1348 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Nah, that's why we had the American Revolution in 1776.
Enough of the King's English, and milk in tea.

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

But, I will have a wee dram of the good Scottish Malt on a regular basis.

When in Rome... and all that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaz2DjV0KwU
Now that was funny!

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My cousin

alandb wrote:
Jim1348 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Nah, that's why we had the American Revolution in 1776.
Enough of the King's English, and milk in tea.

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

But, I will have a wee dram of the good Scottish Malt on a regular basis.

When in Rome... and all that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaz2DjV0KwU
Now that was funny!

I have a cousin with a PhD in French who now lives in France and teaches USA English to engineers and other professionals and students. She says that she can always find a job since the majority of English teachers in France teach British English and her classes want the Yankee version. cool

Yep

Jim1348 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Nah, that's why we had the American Revolution in 1776.
Enough of the King's English, and milk in tea.

My car has a hood, not a bonnet.
My car has trunk, not a boot.

But, I will have a wee dram of the good Scottish Malt on a regular basis.

When in Rome... and all that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaz2DjV0KwU

OMG, that brings back memories of my working in the UK back in the late 60s as a sub-contractor. I was always being corrected. I finally got the hang of ordering at the pub tho....!

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My mother was a professional proofreader

Now I know that there is no way that this is inherited, but maybe it was from a time long ago when I was raised and went to school where correctness in speech and writing mattered. While I've come to accept the loose language in today's text messages and on social media, I still expect legitimate news organizations to at least use proper grammar. I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're. Of course homophones can sneak by in speech, but must be a speed bump while reading when the incorrect one is used. Most of us have probably long lost the difference between homophones, homographs and homonyms.

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english

i sure do wish all I had to worry about in my life is if my gps uses proper english. If it bothered me that bad then I would just do that new thing SHUT OFF THE SOUND!

Proper English

What bothers me more than that, is the pronunciation of some of the words.

thats why I like the Aussie Gal

Love the way she handles the Mex Street Names around here, lol

if you dont like it change it !

I use the English American jill and the tts voice editor . change it to say what you want, I have change several expressions! also I have changed the correct spelling to incorrect to make it sound correct. you have to play around with it to get it just the way you want it !

Portrait or Landscape?

The only thing worse than proper English is making a video in portrait mode. Damn millennial's. Turn your phone for videos

Orr Strayan

English as it is not spoken
leave the voice on Karl from slingblade and just get a laugh

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ON and ONTO

geo334 wrote:

I use the English American jill and the tts voice editor . change it to say what you want, I have change several expressions! also I have changed the correct spelling to incorrect to make it sound correct. you have to play around with it to get it just the way you want it !

Not possible to change "ON" to "ONTO" because "ON" is used in other context. If it is changed one would have "Your destination is ONTO the right". A new entry is needed for ONTO and whatever calls it must be changed. I have not figured that process out.

Hmm

TXRVer wrote:

I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're.

If you don't know when to use "there, their and they're," then your stupid.

I hope you caught that...no need to 'splain it to the others. razz

Yup.

CraigW wrote:
TXRVer wrote:

I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're.

If you don't know when to use "there, their and they're," then your stupid.

I hope you caught that...no need to 'splain it to the others. razz

Were all capable of using it wrong now and then. wink

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Ha!

alandb wrote:
CraigW wrote:
TXRVer wrote:

I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're.

If you don't know when to use "there, their and they're," then your stupid.

I hope you caught that...no need to 'splain it to the others. razz

Were all capable of using it wrong now and then. wink

Ha, my mind first skims messages faster than my eyes. I had to reed it a second thyme. twisted

STOP IT!!!!!

CraigW wrote:
alandb wrote:
CraigW wrote:
TXRVer wrote:

I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're.

If you don't know when to use "there, their and they're," then your stupid.

I hope you caught that...no need to 'splain it to the others. razz

Were all capable of using it wrong now and then. wink

Ha, my mind first skims messages faster than my eyes. I had to reed it a second thyme. twisted

You people make my head hurt, and I wanna scream!

razz razz razz

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Sometimes auto correct at it's finest.

phranc wrote:
CraigW wrote:
alandb wrote:
CraigW wrote:
TXRVer wrote:

I have to wonder how those who learned English as a 2nd language cope with our misuse of such words as: there, their and they're.

If you don't know when to use "there, their and they're," then your stupid.

I hope you caught that...no need to 'splain it to the others. razz

Were all capable of using it wrong now and then. wink

Ha, my mind first skims messages faster than my eyes. I had to reed it a second thyme. twisted

You people make my head hurt, and I wanna scream!

razz razz razz

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Grammar issues

what bothers me more are the errors I see in newspaper articles. There is no editing, or if there is, the editors don't know English and grammar.

I suspect they don't teach grammar in school at all.

bsp131 wrote:

what bothers me more are the errors I see in newspaper articles. There is no editing, or if there is, the editors don't know English and grammar.

It's quite evident in everything the kids (and adults) are writing in all their social media, etc. Heck, they don't teach cursive anymore either.

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First world problems

I think for units made in China their English grammar and syntax is better than many English speaking Americans. I can live with it.

YOUR RIGHT

Sorry to mis-speak. High school dropouts might be a better option than HS grads. I have personally witnessed college freshman who needed to go back to 1st grade.