City Navigator NA 2019.20 ... released 6/20/2018

 

Garmin Express is showing map update CN NA 2019.20 as available. Downloading now, will update with results when finished.

Update (device and computer) for DriveLuxe 50 clone using Garmin Express 5.5.0.0 completed with no problems. Took about 50 minutes.

Here is a list of file sizes (in bytes) and names of the files downloaded for the DriveLuxe 50. The replaced file sizes/names are from CN NA 2019.11:

/.System
2,600 gmapprom.gma replaces 2,600 gmapprom.gma
2,903,310,336 gmapprom.img replaces 2,870,214,656 gmapprom.img
25 gmapprom.unl replaces 25 gmapprom.unl

/.System/ASR
470,403,354 061IJJSX.asr replaces 468,049,806 0607E77L.asr
71,661,252 061IJJSY.asr replaces 70,804,747 0607E77M.asr
256,191,829 061IJJSZ.asr replaces 254,603,089 0607E77N.asr
443,408,779 061IJJT0.asr replaces 432,401,863 0607E77O.asr
1,593 061IUWOX.asr replaces 1,593 0600FEV5.asr
1,531 061IUWOY.asr replaces 1,531 0600FEV6.asr
1,474 061IUWOZ.asr replaces 1,474 0600FEV7.asr
67,786,355 061IUWP0.asr replaces 69,978,959 0600FEV8.asr
65,898,804 061IJJSW.srx replaces 63,836,151 0607E77K.srx
12,118,434 061IUWOW.srx replaces 12,457,680 0600FEV4.srx

/.System/SQLite
10,207,232 D3397250A.db replaces 10,129,408 D3397240B.db
34,007,040 D6022070A.db replaces 34,007,040 D6022070A.db

/.System/Map
2,600 D4919140A.gma replaces 2,600 D4919130A.gma
122,570,752 D4919140A.img replaces 125,947,904 D4919130A.img
25 D4919140A.unl replaces 25 D4919130A.unl

/.System/JCV
509,788,552 D3191260A.jcv replaces 510,853,133 D3191250B.jcv

/.System/SID
645,641,091 D2656280A.sid replaces 649,147,008 D2656270B.sid
418,832,396 D3157260A.sid replaces 405,794,248 D3157250B.sid
85,970,191 D4920140A.sid replaces 88,380,242 D4920130A.sid
39,028,505 D5566100A.sid replaces 38,167,029 D5566090B.sid
151,288,610 D5571100A.sid replaces 151,288,614 D5571090B.sid
40,713,357 D5926080A.sid replaces 40,442,795 D5926070B.sid
88,493,179 D5927080A.sid replaces 87,056,152 D5927070B.sid
24,865,896 D6506080A.sid replaces 25,506,257 D6506070A.sid

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra
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OK

Thanks for posting.
Now the WHEN will the 2019.2 Map come out can finally stop.

Telling me the download to the device and computer is going to take 5 1/2 hours.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT Retired now, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Thanks For Advising

alandb wrote:

Garmin Express is showing map update CN NA 2018.20 as available. Downloading now, will update with results when finished.

Update (device and computer) for DriveLuxe 50 clone using Garmin Express 5.5.0.0 completed with no problems. Took about 50 minutes. I will post file names and sizes shortly.

muell9k Wrote
Thanks for advising Alan.
Updating now my 2460LMT using GE 6.5.1.0 to device only.
Shows 51 min download time but it appears to be taking longer than that.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

Completed!

Downloaded map to device and the old iMac.

Initially claimed about 2 1/2 hours, took less than half that.

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Ted - Garmin Nuvi 1450 LM

Finished on SD card for

Finished on SD card for 660.... maybe 10 minutes to SD card...
Longer to 2689LMT --- maybe 35 min
On to update POI's!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Thank you

Thanks for the update notice Alan.

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Matt

Install complete

Download took 11 minutes (to device & computer).
Install took 26 minutes.

All looks well on my 3597. The 660 is next, but will have to use MapInstall for that one.

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Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Large JCV.

The 2019.20 full screen/full coverage "large" JCV file for the nuvi 7x5 and zumo 6xx is D3060270A.jcv, 828 MB (869,042,813 bytes).

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

Sure 'Nuff It's Out!I

Sure 'Nuff It's Out!

I checked this morning @8:30AM EDT and no update was available at that time.

Well

Garmin lied. It took 2 1/2 hours for the 2797 downloading to device and computer.
My 855 doing the cloning method to the SD card was 18 minutes.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT Retired now, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Updated

Alandb, thanks for the heads up.

Updated Express to 6.5.1

3597
Indicated the map update would take 3.5 hrs. Took about 1 hour.

2495
Estimate: 1hr 20 min. Actual: ~30 min

260
Estimate: 35 min. Actual: ~1hr 40 min (mostly in copying the files to the device at USB1 speed)

Finished

Two units faster than usual.

Files

I love alandb's post with the new file sizes.

My nuvi 3597 with some files removed and extra English voices added had 129MB free with 2019.1. Now with 2019.2, it's down to 77 MB free. I was worried when I saw the 129MB free with the last update but the nuvi worked just fine. I'll see how things go with the 77MB of free space now.

I sort of fear that even the next update after today's will not kick in the SD installation, though, and wonder how it'll work with so little free space then.

Thanks

Will update tonight.

I wonder

CraigW wrote:

I love alandb's post with the new file sizes.

My nuvi 3597 with some files removed and extra English voices added had 129MB free with 2019.1. Now with 2019.2, it's down to 77 MB free. I was worried when I saw the 129MB free with the last update but the nuvi worked just fine. I'll see how things go with the 77MB of free space now.

I sort of fear that even the next update after today's will not kick in the SD installation, though, and wonder how it'll work with so little free space then.

I wonder why you'd "fear" a map update on the 3597 at any point. I've been using alanb's cloning procedure to update my 3597 for years now. I leave the map files on the SD card (move them to a Map folder and rename the file 20xx.xx to detail the update version name), have a ton of free space on the internal storage of the 3597, and the GPS works just fine.

Like the cloning method so much that I also use it on my DriveLuxe 50 although it would handle a regular map update process without issue.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s, HereWeGo for Android.

3597 free space.

CraigW wrote:

My nuvi 3597 with some files removed and extra English voices added had 129MB free with 2019.1. Now with 2019.2, it's down to 77 MB free. I was worried when I saw the 129MB free with the last update but the nuvi worked just fine. I'll see how things go with the 77MB of free space now.

After the 2019.20 update, I still have 198 MB of free space on my 3597, so I must be a little more aggressive than you in deleting the non-English files. I also keep the GPX/Archive file pretty well cleared out of the old trip log files.

I think you will be fine with 77 MB though. That should be plenty of work space until the next map update. On my older nuvi's I would often run them down to less than 25 MB of internal storage and never had any kind of failure. If you get down to 10 MB or less, it is probably time to take some preventative action.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks for letting us know. I will download soon and test it out

I was just updating a

I was just updating a borrowed friend's driveluxe 50 (since mine refuses to import gpx files). Was surprised to see it pull the 2019.20 maps. Leaving on a roadtrip tomorrow and a bit leery using brand new maps. What was the issue with the 2019.10 original release?

How long did it take garmin to rerelease 2019.10 after issues were discovered? Judging from posts on here, 2019.10 was originally released ~1/24/2018. 2019.11 on 4/4/2018. However from other posts it appears garmin released an updated 2019.10 at some point in between?

Interesting...... Yesterday

Interesting......
Yesterday GE said My 2689LMT would take an hour to update map...
Today Same GE says Wife's 2689LMT will take 12 minutes.... via same USB port..
It's still saying it's downloading, so that's not it...
and after a bit it then says 11 minutes, so that's not it...
Dunno!
but it's now switched to building maps.... so it is actually going faster than expected....

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Well ...

The reason is simple, Garmin caches the various map files on your PC, so second and subsequent updates can skip that step smile

All the downloading has to do is download the relevant unlock codes and anything else specific to the second and subsequent devices.

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Where there's a will ... there's a way ... DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20

Because the map image was

Because the map image was already on your computer. This is common when one has more than on unit to upgrade on the same computer.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

Thank You

Thanks for the info. Got it without any problems. It said 34 mins. for install.

thanks

thanks

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Garmin 205, 260W, 1450LMT, 2460LMT, HEREwego for iPhone ... all still mapping strong.

New Map Update

Several years ago probably the 1st Nuvi i had Garmin Express told me there wasn't enough space to update. I was told by somebody on here to do a complete backup then delete the big img file. Worked great. Then a few years later i was told on here you don't need to do that Garmin will take care of space problems. I find it easier to go with 1st instructions backup then delete the big file and i have an up to date backup. I do keep a mem card installed anyway if needed

Thanks

Thanks too...

Updated

A 2598 without issue. Claimed it would take 3 hours to install to both GPS and PC. Took 45 minutes total. Don't forget to remove the downloaded files if you want to free up space on your computer. Uninstalled the 2019.10 map from PC too.

Computer Download and Install Locations:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/45648?page=2#comment-418223

Thanks for the updates and

Thanks for the updates and info about install locations

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

Download directory

bennor3814 wrote:

A 2598 without issue. Claimed it would take 3 hours to install to both GPS and PC. Took 45 minutes total. Don't forget to remove the downloaded files if you want to free up space on your computer. Uninstalled the 2019.10 map from PC too.

Computer Download and Install Locations:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/45648?page=2#comment-418223

I'm assuming that you mean to delete the files in:

C:/ProgramData/Garmin/CoreService/Downloads

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Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Delete

I always have the current 2019.1 and 2019.2 on the computer and then delete the last before that, ie 2018.3

Can someone tell me if the cloning method would work for a
Nuvi 3790 if necessary?

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT Retired now, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Yes

Melaqueman wrote:

Can someone tell me if the cloning method would work for a
Nuvi 3790 if necessary?

Yes, cloning should work well for you.

Except for some of the older/odder devices (like the nuvi 855), cloning is not necessary although it offers some added safety but at the expense of added effort.

I list my nuvi 855 as an older/odder device that does truly benefit from cloning as that model is not offered the automatic map update to SD card when insufficient internal nuvi space prevents a full North America map update and using cloning to put the full map on the SD card in a single file is easier than using a combination of Garmin Express' install to computer and device, and MapInstall to get all of North America useable on the 855 with map files internal and SD carded.

Best update ever

I have five Garmin devices with lifetime maps and update them on four different PCs, each getting the map installed to the PC as well as the nuvi. Therefore, if anyone is likely to experience glitches during the updates, it may be me. This update to 2019.2 was the smoothest update series for me ever. I don't know if I should thank just Garmin, or also my ISP, etc. but it was smooth sailing.

For a while, I updated my old nuvi 855 using the clone method to obtain all of North America on the device but recently I've just installed the Lower 48 (49?) states since the 855 is a backup to my backup nuvi meaning that it'll likely never be used in my vehicle again.

All that's left is to keep my fingers crossed that there won't be a 2019.21 release in the next month or two wink

You think that they will ever offer REGIONAL update?

Climbing steps to pulpit:
IMHO, these files are getting SO big, that IF we could ... just download by .. times zone/ Region/ "East of the Mississippi", 'THESE states', so much easier for us/them. I have family that never leave their state but to get new map they need to download the entire country, complain about data plan. I know... 'Buy the DVD". For partial downloads roads may not connect etc, but use dividing lines / rivers / bridges to define.
If you know in next 6 months you won't be in Central/Pacific times zones who cares if roads moved / don't align? You're not THERE.
When you ARE 'hitting the road' then could update whole map.
..|_Stepping down now.

Map Updater.

I think with Garmin MapUpdater, you can select the region you want to download within certain defined regions. I don't know why Garmin removed this option in Garmin Express. On newer devices with additional feature files (like junction view, speech recogniton, FourSquare, etc.) there are additional technical complications in region downloads. On these devices, the map image itself is only about half of the total data being downloaded.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

Hooray

Downloading now.

LOL

I just downloaded whatever map on 6/16, and hadn't updated in 2 yrs. I just hate wasting all that time and then having to delete the 3.6 gb file. On 6/17 we went somewhere in central NJ and the road didn't even exist. I find it weird to look forward to new maps, but that's me.

Garmin's MapUpdater works fine for the 2019.20 map

FYI - Garmin's MapUpdater works fine for the 2019.20 map. There was no delay this time in providing the new map update for MapUpdater, which has been the case with other map updates recently.

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According to the laws of aerodynamics, bumblebees cannot fly. But the bumblebees, not knowing the laws of aerodynamics, go ahead and fly anyway...

New map -- itemize changes?

Best for each side if perhaps they listed:
"Here is a list of the map updates?"

Looks like in your info only 3 map files are updated
in /.System/Map

If only, say,12 map changes, none near your routes, you/their server don't need to download 5gb.

.

Thanks for the info!

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Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)

Updated...

...the 350, 3590, & 3597 tonight in just over two hours. Everything went the way it was supposed to. No issues.

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It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. ----George Washington

Thanks

CraigW wrote:
Melaqueman wrote:

Can someone tell me if the cloning method would work for a
Nuvi 3790 if necessary?

Yes, cloning should work well for you.

Thanks CraigW for the positive response.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT Retired now, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Thanks

Thanks for the heads up. Will be downloading the map update soon.

Full screen junction view download anyone?

Since Garmin no longer offers the link, would someone be so kind to upload it?

Thanks

Well ...

Bobbpoi wrote:

Best for each side if perhaps they listed:
"Here is a list of the map updates?"

Looks like in your info only 3 map files are updated
in /.System/Map

If only, say,12 map changes, none near your routes, you/their server don't need to download 5gb.

It's not an incremental map update and never could be so that won't happen. Would be good though if you were offered different parts of the map instead of the whole map as there are many users who don't drive much outside their local area.

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Where there's a will ... there's a way ... DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20

DriveSmart 61 LMT-S

DriveSmart 61 LMT-S

I just got this GPS a few days ago, the day I got it I updated to 2019.11 via WiFi, took about an hour.

Just updated to 2019.20 a few minutes ago via a hardwired connection, map and software update 30 minutes start to finish.

ETA 2460 hardwire update less than 45 minutes.

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. Nuvi 2689, two Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N, Garmin, built into my Jeep. .

Download Location

metricman wrote:
bennor3814 wrote:

A 2598 without issue. Claimed it would take 3 hours to install to both GPS and PC. Took 45 minutes total. Don't forget to remove the downloaded files if you want to free up space on your computer. Uninstalled the 2019.10 map from PC too.

Computer Download and Install Locations:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/45648?page=2#comment-418223

I'm assuming that you mean to delete the files in:

C:/ProgramData/Garmin/CoreService/Downloads

Yes. As my post indicates there are several subfolders in the C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads location (on Windows 7,8,10). They are:

C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Firmware
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Map
C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\CoreService\Downloads\Temp

One can delete some or all of these to free up space if using a small hard drive (like SSD).

2019.20 Update

Updated GE, then the 3597 and 1450. All went well. Predicting next update will be Oct 10 ± 1 week.

Old Nuvi 660

Got my old 660 updated with no problem. I used Map Updater to install the East region on the internal memory and the West region on the SD card.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2019.20 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

Took about 4 1/2 hours

First time that GE hung while installing maps. Initially it was to be 3 hours and 37 mins. I knew that wasn't right. I let it go and checked on it in 2 hours. It was stopped at 1 hr and 31 min. I still let it go. Finally I stopped and restarted it. So far everything looks good. Hopefully no issues.

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

Downloading now. Strange!

Strange things are happening. Opening GE, I chose the option to download to 1450 and computer. Strange thing is I was notified that the latest version of maps might have so much new information that it might not fit on your devices internal memory.
Two options
1 'Use a memory card with at least 3 GB of storage capacity.'
2 'Choose a region'. I can replace the maps that I have now with the region you need. You can always change later.'
I chose 'WEST' and it was 3/4 of the US. File size, 2.63 GB. did look at the others and they were big also in land value. Tried to download and received message that I didn't have enough space. Put a bigger memory card in unit and it got stuck on 'Prepairing unit for download'. I shut it down after over 15 minutes. finally put old card back in and started GE up again. I did not receive the strange message. and am now downloading as usual. Stated it would take to download and install 45 minutes. Finished.
I did take 2 pictures with my phone and wish I knew how to send them to the group. Any ideas?

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Vista, Win 10

You can't post pictures

You can't post pictures here. You have to use a photo service and then post the link here.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

Fast Servers

In doing a "computer and device" update for my 3597, I noticed that only five minutes of the total 35 minute completion time was devoted to map download. While the primary stage text stayed at "Stage 3--downloading files" for almost ten more minutes, the small secondary text had changed to "activating maps".

Compared to years ago, the combination of Garmin server speeds, Internet backbone speed, and my ISP (Comcast on a claimed 70 Mbyte/sec download service) gets the file download done so fast that for this model further download speed increase would make little difference.

Mind you, while the 3597 was high end when new, it has a pretty slow maximum USB rate (I was seeing 6.8 MB/sec during active download) compared to some more modern units.

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personal GPS user since 1992
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