Garmin Map Update 2017.10 is out

Started fine and was on pace to finish in about 40 minutes...a new record. About 30 mins. into the update the "estimated time left" line started constantly bouncing: 7 hours, 45 mins, 17 hours 21 mins.... yada yada yada. After this went on for about 15 mins I blamed the Garmin end, cancelled and re-started. It settled back on 40 mins and finished in about 10. About 1 hour total. I really think the best bet is to wait two weeks or so after the release until the mad rush is over and their servers and connections are less stressed.

Download went well. Made my new backup.Even though I skip the software update. It still loaded the text files back that I had previously deleted. Funny though the keyboard and help files stayed just like I had them. So you may want to double check if you had removed some of the files before.

Just a bit of nitpicking. 56k was a rating of BPS - bits per second - not a BAUD rate. The two are not the same.

Thanks for the info.

Used Garmin Express. Update time - 20 minutes from start to finish. The estimated time started at 53 minutes and the last estimated minute was about 4 minutes long. The downloading only took 6 minutes. The rest was prep. and updating map to computer and device.

Is MapUpdater still not seeing the new maps? Is everyone using GE?

Will be pulling this down shortly. Thanks for the tip.

Used GE for my 2689 & my 2460.

2689 to device and computer

2460 device only

Updating both took about 2 hours.

MapUpdater (v.3.3.4) now has 2017.10 available!

Good news for those refusing to use GarminExpress

I may try it here in a little bit.

Good to know even though I switched to GE in the past year.

For those planning to use it, remember that there will be problems if using it on a device that offers a 3D terrain (DEM) map.

I find it odd that 2017.10 is 2.03 Go when the previous one was over 5 Go???

MapUpdater worked like a charm! No problem...

I missed the countdown to this update, it snuck in under the wire

I am very surprised. We moved into a new complex which finished construction and opened for residency in May of 2015. Those streets are now in the latest release of maps.

Thanks for the confirmation, koot!

Actually the gmapprom.img file for the full NA 2016.20 map was 2.32 GB. For 2017.10 it is 2.40 GB. The full download of 2017.10 for my 3597 including all the support files was over 6.3 GB.

Thanks for the info

Thanks will look now!

Express loaded a bunch of text and keyboard files that I didn't want. I never had MapUpdater do that. WebUpdater would do that if you selected certain updates.

Problem free for nuvi clone and computer update. 52 minutes and all was done.

I used it (as well as Basecamp) yesterday and today ..... no problems. Everything worked as expected.

I don't remember the last time I had a problem with GE....

Wow, what a pleasant surprise. I wasn't thinking we'd see another update until the end of winter. Yay!

....Wait a second. It's telling me "See Pricing" next to my 2798LMT. What the heck? A system less than 1 year old and now I have to pay for my supposedly free lifetime maps? Something isn't right!

With 2017.10, is there a new DEM file that is downloaded with this map set when using Garmin Express & Map Updater ? Is the DEM file the same size as with map set 2016.20 or has it changed ?

Much appreciated & thanking you all in advance, it'll help me decide which program to use in updating my 3597

From a few posts on page 1 of this thread, the DEM file for the 3597 remains the same as it's always been.

For updating a 3597, either use Garmin Express or be sure to have a saved copy of the DEM file to copy back to your device after the update as GarminMapUpdater does not respect the DEM map:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/44415

I don't believe I've ever seen a DEM file ever get updated by Garmin Express, Map Updater or otherwise. The DEM on the unit stays on the unit and is not updated...unless I've missed something in the past.

On my 3790 (large DEM) or my 3490 (small DEM), I have never seen this file get updated. How often does the digital elevation data ever even change?

... MapUpdater will often do that, or are you getting this message via Express?

Your absolutely right, once again ! I'll be updating my three units using Alandb cloning method with MapUpdater.

I was using express and it took about 25-30 min and all of a sudden a big red error was on the screen and my 1450 was kilt so I had this problem before with express, I took out my sd card and formatted it and started the update again and it took about 25-30 min and this time all went well yea !!!

MapUpdater is back working again and does not drive you into the Garmin site to use Express as it did yesterday.

Yep...

Garmin Express used here.... About 30 min on the 2689, and maybe 12 min on the 660 (Via SD Card) [Thank You -- alandb!]

On the 660 I switch back and forth between 2 SD cards. GE pre-selects "LOWER 49 States".. One SD contains current maps, other has last version maps.... I've never had to switch back, but it's nice to have a fallback, even if you never use it!!

Updated with no problems.

So far it looks like Garmin Express working better this time around.

Downloading...

Thank you!

and installed without a hitch using GE.

You probably hit 'Install all' rather than just select to install the map. If you do the latter you don't get the additional updates.

...getting the 2599LMT out of my car ASAP!

just thought of something the last update was 2016.20 now we get 2017.10 and its January 2016 now ! is Garmin trying to tell us something , will we get another update at all this year I know they were talking about reducing the amount of updates.

They said they were going to reduce to 3 a year, and only twice a year for the older style EU NT map as most devices now use the EU NTU map, which as I've posted was just updated with 2016.30, contrary to the CN NA 2017.10 (which should have been 2016.30 as well).

What will now happen only Garmin knows, and I don't think they've said!

Thank you for the heads up. Updated without any problem in less tan 1 hour.

Took almost exactly 45 minutes to update my Nuvi 2699 using Garmin Express. Only strange thing was that GE showed the status bar fine up to about 50%. At that point the status bar started jumping around with the time jumping from 7 minutes to over 20 hours to go. Install ended shortly after that but it was a bit worrisome for a few minutes that something had gone wrong.

Thank you for listing the file sizes.

Is the the clone method the best way to update two 3590 devices without having to duplicate the download?

Just a note. If you download for the first install and include installing it to the computer for BaseCamp. The second unit will use the files already downloaded by the computer for it's install, cutting out the download time.

Can someone tell me how big a DL this update is?

No. Garmin Express keeps copies of downloaded files and only downloads what is necessary after the first install. Usually the map update for the second and subsequent devices takes only a few minutes.

There are some situations where cloning is the preferred method. But for most users, it is probably best to just stick with the standard methods of Garmin Express.

It depends on the model your updating. The update formode ls with DEM data, 3D data, JCV data, and road data can be over 6GB. For older models that just use the road data it really depends on how much of a full North American map you can, or want, to install on the device. The full road data file, gmapprom.img is 2.4GB.

About 5gb or so.

I installed just the lower 48 to device and it was around 2GB, Thanks.

Everything went Ok using GE, took just under 2 hours via my laptop (wireless)