Where do you find the post number? All I find is page number? Just want to learn something new today!!
Go to "Welcome / open talk" discussion group (http://www.poi-factory.com/forum/2). Have a look at the number of Replies, right next to the title "Windows 10". I've just bumped it from 1002 to 1003
Microsoft desperately wants everyone to like their products. I've just updated my Android smartphone (it runs CyanogenMod 12, a lollipop based custom ROM). All of a sudden I got Cortana app after the update completes. That's lame. First thing I did after rebooting was to remove Cortana.
intel and amd newer chips only use win 10 and they will phase out the older chips hmm sounds like a lot of behind closed doors deals were made ! so does this mean that about every 5 or so years you will have to buy a new computer, no more going to the goodwill and buying a used box to fix up sad very sad takes all the fun out of building if it if it doesn't have a OS to run it.
intel and amd newer chips only use win 10 and they will phase out the older chips hmm sounds like a lot of behind closed doors deals were made ! so does this mean that about every 5 or so years you will have to buy a new computer, no more going to the goodwill and buying a used box to fix up sad very sad takes all the fun out of building if it if it doesn't have a OS to run it.
Basically, it sounds like MS will not be supporting older hardware with their newer operating systems which isn't really anything new, now it's just official.
Since each incremental version of Windows introduces more bloat, PCs with faster processors and more memory (i.e. newer hardware) are needed to maintain an acceptable level of performance. But when you buy that newer PC to run the latest version of Windows, you can always take the older PC and load it up with Linux or one of the BSDs.
Often, the older PC runs faster with Linux than the newer PC runs with Windows. Funny that.
I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.
I have Defender turned off because I have Norton.
Norton said Windows 10 was given permission for:
Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
Privacy settings do sometimes revert after a Win10 update
mgarledge wrote:
I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.
I have Defender turned off because I have Norton.
Norton said Windows 10 was given permission for:
Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
Hi Mary,
Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." [[translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience]
It happens sometimes after Windows 10 automatically updates itself. It doesn't happen after every month or even most months, but it happened to me as well a month or two ago. Later this year, possibly August, you're going to receive a major "anniversary" Win 10 update, and that's a time to definitely go through all your settings again. And if you're wondering if Microsoft maybe should leave your settings unchanged or at least warn you it's resetting them, of course, you're right; but that's not how Microsoft rolls these days.
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
dobs108 wrote:
dagarmin wrote:
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
dobs108
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
dobs108
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
Are the 'settings' you say are changing - 'settings' for the Windows 10 operating system...or 'settings' for Internet Explorer, or some other program that uses the Windows 10 operating system?
No settings have changed on the three computers I have...
""I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.""
*Settings - Privacy
*Feedback & diagnostics:
--Feedback Frequency--
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
(I had never and it changed to always)
--Diagnostic and usage data--
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
(I had Basic and it changed to Full)
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
Are the 'settings' you say are changing - 'settings' for the Windows 10 operating system...or 'settings' for Internet Explorer, or some other program that uses the Windows 10 operating system?
No settings have changed on the three computers I have...
""I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.""
*Settings - Privacy
*Feedback & diagnostics:
--Feedback Frequency--
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
(I had never and it changed to always)
--Diagnostic and usage data--
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
(I had Basic and it changed to Full)
Ummm, I have not experienced that. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
You said; "noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into.' Norton was submitting? I don't understand. Could your Norton's AntiVirus somehow be making these changes?
By the way, I removed my Norton's AntiVirus from my computers even though I still had 4-5 months before renewal (and I was sure to stop auto-renewal). I had heard of some people experiencing issues using Norton's with Windows 10, but I do not know what type of issues they experienced. I am using the Windows 10 built-in Defender program and it seems to be working. It updates virus and spyware definitions at least daily, if not multiple times daily. I have not heard of anyone complaining that it failed.
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
I know as been many discussion on this window 10. I have Window 7 professional,keep in mind that according to the window version that you have at this time,the same version of window 10 will be install it on your pc..
If you have window 7 home edition you will get window 10 home edition,if you have the Pro version you will get the window 10 professional.
ONLY on window 10 Professional you will have full controll of window update, you will decide what update to get and not to get, on any other version of window 10 this option is disable, in other word all update will be install it.like it or not.
Like I wrote before I am very happy with window 7 Professional
and I stick with it.
after speaking with the IT person at work who said that I should be careful with older systems, I have made my final decision. I am going to keep my "old" laptop as is with Windows 7 as I am just using it as a repository for pictures and recipes. But I will be updating my newer laptop. My Surface already has Windows 10, so no decision there.
Norton submits unauthorized and unknown situations
koot wrote:
You said; "noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into.' Norton was submitting? I don't understand. Could your Norton's AntiVirus somehow be making these changes?
---------
Norton was stating
"You allowed Microsoft
Compatibility Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
to access your network resources"
---------------
There were a lot of statistical submissions and Norton feedback by Norton when "I" allow Microsoft to do all these things. No one was here but me and I did not change my settings.And Norton did not change them.
After I changed my settings back there were no more notices that I was allowing Microsoft to do these things.
I have been using Norton on several devices forever. Years and years. I love Norton and it has always performed perfect and caught malware and virus before they could do anything.
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
koot wrote:
Ummm, I have not experienced [privacy and feedback settings reverting to defaults]. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
Yes, I do, and count yourself lucky that it hasn't happened to you, my friend. It happened to a lot of people who did complain loudly in November 2015. Microsoft pulled the update in response to complaints and fixed it, but remember the automatic update feature? It was too late for many, and some of those folks probably had changed their settings prior to that update but still haven't realized some settings reverted to defaults, because they've never checked.
Try websearching "windows 10 november 2015 update resets privacy" and you'll find among the many reputable websites discussing the issue this one:
And to dobs108, it only takes a minute or two to recheck the settings and reset them if needed. You've likely waited a lot longer than that for Win 7 updates this spring. There are many good reasons to stick with Win 7 if you want, including marginally better privacy compared to using Win 10 with managed settings, but resetting privacy etc. settings is not a big deal. The problem is remembering to do it because updating in Win 10 is by default automatic. There are at least for now unpatched ways to make updating Win 10 manual again, as it was in earlier versions of Windows.
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
koot wrote:
Ummm, I have not experienced [privacy and feedback settings reverting to defaults]. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
Yes, I do, and count yourself lucky that it hasn't happened to you, my friend. It happened to a lot of people who did complain loudly in November 2015. Microsoft pulled the update in response to complaints and fixed it, but remember the automatic update feature? It was too late for many, and some of those folks probably had changed their settings prior to that update but still haven't realized some settings reverted to defaults, because they've never checked.
Try websearching "windows 10 november 2015 update resets privacy" and you'll find among the many reputable websites discussing the issue...
Yes, I am aware of the 2015 update that MS pulled 9 months ago that altered the settings. But, that was nine months ago...and all is well in computerland.
It is my belief that most people who are concerned about privacy are [really] only concerned about someone being able to get a hold of personal information (e.g. passwords, documents and the like).
Personally, I could care less if Microsoft or Google or Amazon or eBay accumulates data and knows what I (my IP address) have Google searched - or that I clicked on the POI Factory website, or a furniture store's image of leather sofa, or that I ordered something from Amazon.com, or viewed a Tech reporter's story about the latest Windows operating system. This actually makes having a computer a better experience because it sometimes provides me with information about what I'm interested in. It's not like this information is posted under my photograph and printed in my local newspaper for my neighbors to see.
I believe it was back in the 1940s that people used to get all dressed up to watch that new fangled thing called 'television' because they thought the people inside the television box could see into their living rooms. Those people were just as loony as the people today with their Microsoft computer privacy concerns.
Now, if you're talking about someone hacking into a computer and stealing passwords to financial information, or accessing personal data (documents, images, etc.) - that is a totally different matter. But, MS has never even remotely approached such activity - have they?
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Looking for a year or so old laptop computer with decent display that I can remove HD, toss in a SSD, then load an Image of my existing W7 laptop on onto.
My software (Adobe) was written for W7.... Why would I want an new OS to run old W7 software on?
I've already maxed Ram,swapped 5400RPM to 7200RPM Hybrid drive, and swapped CPU chip for faster one (1.53Ghz to 2.3Ghz)
-- A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever....
And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
That minor issue was quickly corrected. I have had zero issues with any settings being changed. My privacy, my apps, my programs and my selected default browser (Chrome) have not changed one iota for any of the three computers I have that use Windows 10. Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this.
After using Windows 10 I would most definitely not want to go back to Windows 7...just like I would not want to go back to XP or 98SE.
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
Out of respect for Jon and Angela, I will post only a few of these links:
Clear as mud! And there is no guarantee it would even work!
This is what the author said in regard to the following workaround in the link below:
Feb 17 2016: This page was mentioned recently by InfoWorld, gHacks, RedmondMag and others. And WinZip has updated their KB article suggesting their users to implement the same registry edit. This method is the only workaround for a really annoying issue in Windows 10, and I’m glad this page served so many users worldwide.
Not true Just because you can find it with a google search
dobs108 wrote:
koot wrote:
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
I have had no trouble changing the default browser along with other app settings and have not had any change after the updates installed over nearly a year now.
-- Garmin Drive Smart 55 - Samsung Note 10 Smartphone with Google Maps & HERE Apps
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
Out of respect for Jon and Angela, I will post only a few of these links:
Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10?
rjrsw wrote:
I have had no trouble changing the default browser along with other app settings and have not had any change after the updates installed over nearly a year now.
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
"We’ve seen behavior by some apps that have set themselves as default in unsupported ways by deleting or corrupting registry settings.
Update KB3135173 for Windows addresses the problem and resets application defaults to the initial Windows settings when registry settings are deleted or corrupted.
If a user proactively changes their default app settings using the supported method, the registry won’t be corrupted and those user settings are retained." Source – Betsy [MSFT]
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
"We’ve seen behavior by some apps that have set themselves as default in unsupported ways by deleting or corrupting registry settings.
Update KB3135173 for Windows addresses the problem and resets application defaults to the initial Windows settings when registry settings are deleted or corrupted.
Yes, the KB3135173 fix from February to fix 'some' apps...
I'm curious - did this little issue greatly upset you, or make you afraid or wary or uneasy to use Windows 10?
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
That minor issue was quickly corrected. I have had zero issues with any settings being changed. My privacy, my apps, my programs and my selected default browser (Chrome) have not changed one iota for any of the three computers I have that use Windows 10. Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this.
After using Windows 10 I would most definitely not want to go back to Windows 7...just like I would not want to go back to XP or 98SE.
"Ignorant" is an emotionally-loaded word, and I personally would appreciate it if you would not characterize me or others here, even indirectly in this manner, as being ignorant and over-reactive simply because we don't agree with you and express concerns you don't share or have had issues you haven't had. Please dial it back a notch or three and let's remain respectful, even if we can't agree. Thank you. You can just say, "I don't share this concern about privacy, and I haven't had any problem with any settings being changed by any Win 10 update." That's fine. And yes, you have plenty of company... as do we.
But it does raise a question. What settings on privacy and feedback *did* you change on your PCs from the default settings, what did you change them to, and why? You said you don't have these concerns; so why change them? Why not give Microsoft everything it's asking for? I'm not talking about making Chrome the default browser; Firefox is mine, and that setting never got changed on mine either. *That* I would have noticed immediately. I'm talking about privacy and feedback settings which were changed on Mary's and one of my PCs.
And if you hadn't changed privacy and feedback settings from the default, how is it fair to say no update has ever reverted them back to default settings for you let alone any other user who did change them? How would you know?
I think these are the most relevant Windows 10 privacy settings
dagarmin wrote:
But it does raise a question. What settings on privacy and feedback *did* you change on your PCs from the default settings, what did you change them to, and why? You said you don't have these concerns; so why change them? Why not give Microsoft everything it's asking for? I'm not talking about making Chrome the default browser; Firefox is mine, and that setting never got changed on mine either. *That* I would have noticed immediately. I'm talking about privacy and feedback settings which were changed on Mary's and one of my PCs.
And if you hadn't changed privacy and feedback settings from the default, how is it fair to say no update has ever reverted them back to default settings for you let alone any other user who did change them? How would you know?
I think these are the most relevant Windows 10 privacy settings:
Let apps use my advertising ID: Off
SmartScreen Filter: On
Send Microsoft info about how I write: Off
Let websites provide locally relevant content: On
Location: On
Cortana: On
Cortana - Getting to Know You: Off
Edge - Have Cortana assist me in Microsoft Edge: On
Show search suggestions as I type: Off
Microsoft Feedback Frequency: Never
Diagnostic and usage data sent to Microsoft: On
PS - I stand by my comment; "Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this." This is very true. No one knows everything! It was not meant to single you, or anyone in particular, out - it was a general statement. Sorry if it offended you. We ALL happen to be ignorant (lacking knowledge, without knowledge of) about thousands of things.
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
There was a significant cumulative update issued by Microsoft today (July 12th) for Windows 10. Another, separate, update for Windows 10 will be installed at the same time (see below).
· Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3172985)
· Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3173428)
If your current Windows 10 version is 10.0.10586.420, the Cumulative Update KB3172985 and KB3173428 will update your Windows 10 to Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.494): 10.0.10586.494
The update(s) will also update your Internet Explorer 11 to Version 11.494.10586.0 (Update Version 11.0.33 KB3170106)
Also, Windows Defender is updated to Version 4.9.10586.494.
Note: Due to the size of these updates the installation to your computer may be scheduled at some future date/time, e.g. 1:25 a.m. tomorrow morning, etc. Or, you can elect to download and install the updates manually. It only took a few minutes for my computers. To check for updates, and/or to learn if your computer is scheduled for updates at a future time/date - search 'check for updates' using Cortana.
Hope this helps and/or you find it interesting.
PS - All my settings remained exactly as I had them set after these significant updates. None of my privacy settings that I personally changed were changed [back] to the original default settings.
PPS - Microsoft is releasing a major Windows 10 update (Version 1607) on August 2nd, known as the 'Anniversary Update', a few days after the first anniversary of the Windows 10 2015 release date. This August 2nd date will come a few days after the free update expires.
-- Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Microsoft Feedback Frequency: Never
Diagnostic and usage data sent to Microsoft: On
This may be my problem. I have all my settings bassicly the same as you except:
My Feedback & diagnostic only has these options
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
I have Never
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
I have Basic
The only options I have here are Basic, Enhanced, Full (Recommended). I can not find the ON/OFF setting
The setting that changed was from Basic to Full.
I did the update yesterday and my settings did not change. I am thinking my settings changed when there was a complete program update several months ago. I had not check the settings for quite a while when I discovered the Basic back to Full.
In my services(Local) on my Windows 7 PC, I set the Windows Update startup to manual and noticed today that it had started on it's own !
I certainly hope that all this nonsense ends once and for all on July 30th
-- Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk
In my services(Local) on my Windows 7 PC, I set the Windows Update startup to manual and noticed today that it had started on it's own !
I certainly hope that all this nonsense ends once and for all on July 30th
Don't set it to manual.
Try disabling auto update at two locations:
1) Control Panel - System and Security - Windows Update - Change settings
Set it to never check for updates
2) Windows Update local service set to Disabled
In my case, auto update can't detect recent updates. My Windows 7 Home laptop can't detect May, June and July updates and my 7 Ultimate desktop PC can't detect July updates. I wonder if Microsoft intentionally break Windows 7 updates or delay them as another way to force users to upgrade.
Just wondering..
Good lord...
Where do you find the post number? All I find is page number? Just want to learn something new today!!
Bobkz - Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD/2455LMT/C530/C580- "Pain Is Fear Leaving The Body - Semper Fidelis"
Update to Windows 10 problem
Hp just did a BOIS update and now my lag is gone.
Guess they were on top of it all along.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
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Good lord...
Where do you find the post number? All I find is page number? Just want to learn something new today!!
Go to "Welcome / open talk" discussion group (http://www.poi-factory.com/forum/2). Have a look at the number of Replies, right next to the title "Windows 10". I've just bumped it from 1002 to 1003
If you use unread posts
You can also see it on unread post. How many replies and how many you haven't read.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Microsoft says new processors will only work with Windows 10
Windows users 7 and 8.1 may want to review this http://pages.citebite.com/t5q0w1t1v6guv
Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.
Yet another reason to cut the MS cord and move to Linux
Windows users 7 and 8.1 may want to review this http://pages.citebite.com/t5q0w1t1v6guv
It's getting easier all the time to justify making the switch.
- Phil
Microsoft desperately wants
Microsoft desperately wants everyone to like their products. I've just updated my Android smartphone (it runs CyanogenMod 12, a lollipop based custom ROM). All of a sudden I got Cortana app after the update completes. That's lame. First thing I did after rebooting was to remove Cortana.
Finally Got My Upgrade Notice
I just got an email from Microsoft "Your free upgrade to Windows 10 is waiting for you." It is a little late as I upgraded months ago on my own.
sheep
intel and amd newer chips only use win 10 and they will phase out the older chips hmm sounds like a lot of behind closed doors deals were made ! so does this mean that about every 5 or so years you will have to buy a new computer, no more going to the goodwill and buying a used box to fix up sad very sad takes all the fun out of building if it if it doesn't have a OS to run it.
There's always Linux/BSD
intel and amd newer chips only use win 10 and they will phase out the older chips hmm sounds like a lot of behind closed doors deals were made ! so does this mean that about every 5 or so years you will have to buy a new computer, no more going to the goodwill and buying a used box to fix up sad very sad takes all the fun out of building if it if it doesn't have a OS to run it.
Basically, it sounds like MS will not be supporting older hardware with their newer operating systems which isn't really anything new, now it's just official.
Since each incremental version of Windows introduces more bloat, PCs with faster processors and more memory (i.e. newer hardware) are needed to maintain an acceptable level of performance. But when you buy that newer PC to run the latest version of Windows, you can always take the older PC and load it up with Linux or one of the BSDs.
Often, the older PC runs faster with Linux than the newer PC runs with Windows. Funny that.
- Phil
Microsoft is adding the Linux command line to Windows 10
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows... . For the Geeks out there.Make sure to watch the video at top of page.
Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.
Windows 10 changed me settings
I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.
I have Defender turned off because I have Norton.
Norton said Windows 10 was given permission for:
Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Privacy settings do sometimes revert after a Win10 update
I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.
I have Defender turned off because I have Norton.
Norton said Windows 10 was given permission for:
Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
Hi Mary,
Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." [[translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience]
It happens sometimes after Windows 10 automatically updates itself. It doesn't happen after every month or even most months, but it happened to me as well a month or two ago. Later this year, possibly August, you're going to receive a major "anniversary" Win 10 update, and that's a time to definitely go through all your settings again. And if you're wondering if Microsoft maybe should leave your settings unchanged or at least warn you it's resetting them, of course, you're right; but that's not how Microsoft rolls these days.
JMoo On
No windows 10 for me
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
dobs108
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
dobs108
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Mine did change...
...Every month, unfortunately, you have to go back through your Windows 10 privacy and feedback settings and make sure Microsoft hasn't "updated them for your convenience." (translation: reset them to the defaults for Microsoft's convenience)...
I don't have time to continually go back to make sure my settings stick. In Windows 7, there is no such problem.
dobs108
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
Are the 'settings' you say are changing - 'settings' for the Windows 10 operating system? Which one(s)?
Settings:
· System
· Devices
· Network & Internet
· Personalization
· Accounts
· Time & Language
· Ease of Access
· Privacy
· Updates & Security
Can you explain which setting(s), and how it was set...and then how it changed?
No settings have changed on the three computers I have that I am aware of.
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
From my above post
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
Are the 'settings' you say are changing - 'settings' for the Windows 10 operating system...or 'settings' for Internet Explorer, or some other program that uses the Windows 10 operating system?
No settings have changed on the three computers I have...
""I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.""
*Settings - Privacy
*Feedback & diagnostics:
--Feedback Frequency--
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
(I had never and it changed to always)
--Diagnostic and usage data--
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
(I had Basic and it changed to Full)
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Dontcha think?
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
If not why did mine change back? Do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a setting to tell it not to let anything change Windows 10 settings?
Exactly what 'settings' are changing?
Are the 'settings' you say are changing - 'settings' for the Windows 10 operating system...or 'settings' for Internet Explorer, or some other program that uses the Windows 10 operating system?
No settings have changed on the three computers I have...
""I set my settings Feedback and Diagnostics to none and Basic and noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into. I went to my settings and they were changed back to automatic and full. I have set them back to none and basic and will keep a watch on them.""
*Settings - Privacy
*Feedback & diagnostics:
--Feedback Frequency--
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
(I had never and it changed to always)
--Diagnostic and usage data--
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
(I had Basic and it changed to Full)
Ummm, I have not experienced that. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
You said; "noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into.' Norton was submitting? I don't understand. Could your Norton's AntiVirus somehow be making these changes?
By the way, I removed my Norton's AntiVirus from my computers even though I still had 4-5 months before renewal (and I was sure to stop auto-renewal). I had heard of some people experiencing issues using Norton's with Windows 10, but I do not know what type of issues they experienced. I am using the Windows 10 built-in Defender program and it seems to be working. It updates virus and spyware definitions at least daily, if not multiple times daily. I have not heard of anyone complaining that it failed.
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
One more reason
I know as been many discussion on this window 10. I have Window 7 professional,keep in mind that according to the window version that you have at this time,the same version of window 10 will be install it on your pc..
If you have window 7 home edition you will get window 10 home edition,if you have the Pro version you will get the window 10 professional.
ONLY on window 10 Professional you will have full controll of window update, you will decide what update to get and not to get, on any other version of window 10 this option is disable, in other word all update will be install it.like it or not.
Like I wrote before I am very happy with window 7 Professional
and I stick with it.
HEY Microsoft.I do not play follow the leader
Decisions, decisions
after speaking with the IT person at work who said that I should be careful with older systems, I have made my final decision. I am going to keep my "old" laptop as is with Windows 7 as I am just using it as a repository for pictures and recipes. But I will be updating my newer laptop. My Surface already has Windows 10, so no decision there.
@bsp131
Just so some of the rest of us know too, What did your IT kick caution you about?
Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!
Norton submits unauthorized and unknown situations
You said; "noticed that my Norton was submitting a lot of items that Windows 10 was logging into.' Norton was submitting? I don't understand. Could your Norton's AntiVirus somehow be making these changes?
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Norton was stating
"You allowed Microsoft
Compatibility Telemetry
Malware Protection
Feedback
SIUF Deployment Manager
to access your network resources"
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There were a lot of statistical submissions and Norton feedback by Norton when "I" allow Microsoft to do all these things. No one was here but me and I did not change my settings.And Norton did not change them.
After I changed my settings back there were no more notices that I was allowing Microsoft to do these things.
I have been using Norton on several devices forever. Years and years. I love Norton and it has always performed perfect and caught malware and virus before they could do anything.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
No Upgrade...!
"Canuk" said in part...
Windows 7 does everything I need it to do and is running reliably therefore as far as I'm concerned I don't see a reason nor need to upgrade.
I agree with the above but with one minor change...
"Windows XP does everything I need it to do and is running reliably
, therefore, as far as I'm concerned, I don't see a reason nor need to upgrade."
If at whatever point in time that I do change, it will be to a Linux OS... and NOT a upgraded Windows system
.
Nuvi1300WTGPS
I'm not really lost.... just temporarily misplaced!
To koot re: updates and privacy settings
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
Ummm, I have not experienced [privacy and feedback settings reverting to defaults]. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
Yes, I do, and count yourself lucky that it hasn't happened to you, my friend. It happened to a lot of people who did complain loudly in November 2015. Microsoft pulled the update in response to complaints and fixed it, but remember the automatic update feature? It was too late for many, and some of those folks probably had changed their settings prior to that update but still haven't realized some settings reverted to defaults, because they've never checked.
Try websearching "windows 10 november 2015 update resets privacy" and you'll find among the many reputable websites discussing the issue this one:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008571/windows/microsofts-no...
and this one which advises continued vigilance: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-settings-must-check-windows-1...
And to dobs108, it only takes a minute or two to recheck the settings and reset them if needed. You've likely waited a lot longer than that for Win 7 updates this spring. There are many good reasons to stick with Win 7 if you want, including marginally better privacy compared to using Win 10 with managed settings, but resetting privacy etc. settings is not a big deal. The problem is remembering to do it because updating in Win 10 is by default automatic. There are at least for now unpatched ways to make updating Win 10 manual again, as it was in earlier versions of Windows.
JMoo On
ROFL.... Your life will not
ROFL.... Your life will not be your own with WIN 10 or is that LOSE 10
W10Privacy
I have used W10Privacy to disable stuff in Windows 10.
Those people were just as loony
There is no such a problem with Windows 10 either...
Ummm, I have not experienced [privacy and feedback settings reverting to defaults]. And, I have yet to hear from anyone else that has experienced such changes. I did a quick 'search' and saw nothing. Certainly, if others have seen changes made against their will to their Privacy settings, they would loudly complain and we would have heard about it from all over the world. Dontcha think?
Yes, I do, and count yourself lucky that it hasn't happened to you, my friend. It happened to a lot of people who did complain loudly in November 2015. Microsoft pulled the update in response to complaints and fixed it, but remember the automatic update feature? It was too late for many, and some of those folks probably had changed their settings prior to that update but still haven't realized some settings reverted to defaults, because they've never checked.
Try websearching "windows 10 november 2015 update resets privacy" and you'll find among the many reputable websites discussing the issue...
Yes, I am aware of the 2015 update that MS pulled 9 months ago that altered the settings. But, that was nine months ago...and all is well in computerland.
It is my belief that most people who are concerned about privacy are [really] only concerned about someone being able to get a hold of personal information (e.g. passwords, documents and the like).
Personally, I could care less if Microsoft or Google or Amazon or eBay accumulates data and knows what I (my IP address) have Google searched - or that I clicked on the POI Factory website, or a furniture store's image of leather sofa, or that I ordered something from Amazon.com, or viewed a Tech reporter's story about the latest Windows operating system. This actually makes having a computer a better experience because it sometimes provides me with information about what I'm interested in. It's not like this information is posted under my photograph and printed in my local newspaper for my neighbors to see.
I believe it was back in the 1940s that people used to get all dressed up to watch that new fangled thing called 'television' because they thought the people inside the television box could see into their living rooms. Those people were just as loony as the people today with their Microsoft computer privacy concerns.
Now, if you're talking about someone hacking into a computer and stealing passwords to financial information, or accessing personal data (documents, images, etc.) - that is a totally different matter. But, MS has never even remotely approached such activity - have they?
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Windows 10 resetting apps to Microsoft default - spring 2016
Five minutes with Google:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/04/29/free-wind...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2447177/updategate-...
http://superuser.com/questions/1022063/windows-10-default-pr...
http://betanews.com/2016/02/16/has-windows-10-reset-your-def...
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/16/beware-kb3135173-for-window...
http://winaero.com/blog/prevent-windows-10-from-resetting-yo...
Times running out to get
Times running out to get your free upgrade to Win 10 (from Win 7 or 8). The greatest OS ever.
Looking for a year or so old
Looking for a year or so old laptop computer with decent display that I can remove HD, toss in a SSD, then load an Image of my existing W7 laptop on onto.
My software (Adobe) was written for W7.... Why would I want an new OS to run old W7 software on?
I've already maxed Ram,swapped 5400RPM to 7200RPM Hybrid drive, and swapped CPU chip for faster one (1.53Ghz to 2.3Ghz)
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!
I have had zero issues with any settings being changed
Five minutes with Google:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/04/29/free-wind...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2447177/updategate-...
http://superuser.com/questions/1022063/windows-10-default-pr...
http://betanews.com/2016/02/16/has-windows-10-reset-your-def...
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/16/beware-kb3135173-for-window...
http://winaero.com/blog/prevent-windows-10-from-resetting-your-default-apps/
That minor issue was quickly corrected. I have had zero issues with any settings being changed. My privacy, my apps, my programs and my selected default browser (Chrome) have not changed one iota for any of the three computers I have that use Windows 10. Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this.
After using Windows 10 I would most definitely not want to go back to Windows 7...just like I would not want to go back to XP or 98SE.
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Can't change default app settings
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
Out of respect for Jon and Angela, I will post only a few of these links:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
And here is the workaround
Here is the workaround needed to select your own default apps (programs) in Windows 10:
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/default-apps-not-working-w...
Clear as mud! And there is no guarantee it would even work!
This is what the author said in regard to the following workaround in the link below:
Feb 17 2016: This page was mentioned recently by InfoWorld, gHacks, RedmondMag and others. And WinZip has updated their KB article suggesting their users to implement the same registry edit. This method is the only workaround for a really annoying issue in Windows 10, and I’m glad this page served so many users worldwide.
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/windows-10-resetting-file-...
Not true Just because you can find it with a google search
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
I have had no trouble changing the default browser along with other app settings and have not had any change after the updates installed over nearly a year now.
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From the microsoft site
Not True Just Because You Can Find It With A Google Search
In this case it is all too true. The links are all from Windows 10 users posting on the Microsoft site.
These are all from 2015 and early 2016...
...I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
On the Microsoft site there are thousands of people who can't change their app settings in Windows 10 from the Microsoft defaults. For example, many of them can't make Chrome the default browser.
Out of respect for Jon and Angela, I will post only a few of these links:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/browser-problem-with-changing-bowser-from-edge-to/4a37c214-96b1-448b-8785-819721a5524e
These are all from 2015 and early 2016...
Once again, I have had zero issues with any settings being changed...
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10?
I have had no trouble changing the default browser along with other app settings and have not had any change after the updates installed over nearly a year now.
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Dates posted
These are all from 2015 and early 2016...
One is from 2015; the rest are from March, April, and May 2016.
Microsoft explains why
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
This is a quote from Betsy at Microsoft taken from: http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/windows-10-resetting-file-...
"We’ve seen behavior by some apps that have set themselves as default in unsupported ways by deleting or corrupting registry settings.
Update KB3135173 for Windows addresses the problem and resets application defaults to the initial Windows settings when registry settings are deleted or corrupted.
If a user proactively changes their default app settings using the supported method, the registry won’t be corrupted and those user settings are retained." Source – Betsy [MSFT]
how many of the hundreds-of-millions of the Windows 10 users
These are all from 2015 and early 2016...
One is from 2015; the rest are from March, April, and May 2016.
Count again. The answer is two from 2015 - You know - one, two...
Do you know how many of the hundreds-of-millions of Windows 10 users have no issues?
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
I'm curious
Bingo! Are we the only people that know how to use Windows 10? Or are there 330+ million Windows 10 users that are happy...and just a small group that have problems? Ummm...
"We’ve seen behavior by some apps that have set themselves as default in unsupported ways by deleting or corrupting registry settings.
Update KB3135173 for Windows addresses the problem and resets application defaults to the initial Windows settings when registry settings are deleted or corrupted.
Yes, the KB3135173 fix from February to fix 'some' apps...
I'm curious - did this little issue greatly upset you, or make you afraid or wary or uneasy to use Windows 10?
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Please remain respectful--and...
That minor issue was quickly corrected. I have had zero issues with any settings being changed. My privacy, my apps, my programs and my selected default browser (Chrome) have not changed one iota for any of the three computers I have that use Windows 10. Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this.
After using Windows 10 I would most definitely not want to go back to Windows 7...just like I would not want to go back to XP or 98SE.
"Ignorant" is an emotionally-loaded word, and I personally would appreciate it if you would not characterize me or others here, even indirectly in this manner, as being ignorant and over-reactive simply because we don't agree with you and express concerns you don't share or have had issues you haven't had. Please dial it back a notch or three and let's remain respectful, even if we can't agree. Thank you. You can just say, "I don't share this concern about privacy, and I haven't had any problem with any settings being changed by any Win 10 update." That's fine. And yes, you have plenty of company... as do we.
But it does raise a question. What settings on privacy and feedback *did* you change on your PCs from the default settings, what did you change them to, and why? You said you don't have these concerns; so why change them? Why not give Microsoft everything it's asking for? I'm not talking about making Chrome the default browser; Firefox is mine, and that setting never got changed on mine either. *That* I would have noticed immediately. I'm talking about privacy and feedback settings which were changed on Mary's and one of my PCs.
And if you hadn't changed privacy and feedback settings from the default, how is it fair to say no update has ever reverted them back to default settings for you let alone any other user who did change them? How would you know?
JMoo On
I think these are the most relevant Windows 10 privacy settings
But it does raise a question. What settings on privacy and feedback *did* you change on your PCs from the default settings, what did you change them to, and why? You said you don't have these concerns; so why change them? Why not give Microsoft everything it's asking for? I'm not talking about making Chrome the default browser; Firefox is mine, and that setting never got changed on mine either. *That* I would have noticed immediately. I'm talking about privacy and feedback settings which were changed on Mary's and one of my PCs.
And if you hadn't changed privacy and feedback settings from the default, how is it fair to say no update has ever reverted them back to default settings for you let alone any other user who did change them? How would you know?
I think these are the most relevant Windows 10 privacy settings:
Let apps use my advertising ID: Off
SmartScreen Filter: On
Send Microsoft info about how I write: Off
Let websites provide locally relevant content: On
Location: On
Cortana: On
Cortana - Getting to Know You: Off
Edge - Have Cortana assist me in Microsoft Edge: On
Show search suggestions as I type: Off
Microsoft Feedback Frequency: Never
Diagnostic and usage data sent to Microsoft: On
PS - I stand by my comment; "Ignorant people oftentimes make mountains out of any little issue when it comes to things such as this." This is very true. No one knows everything! It was not meant to single you, or anyone in particular, out - it was a general statement. Sorry if it offended you. We ALL happen to be ignorant (lacking knowledge, without knowledge of) about thousands of things.
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
FYI - Windows 10 Cumulative Update (July 12th)
FYI - Windows 10 Cumulative Update (July 12th)
There was a significant cumulative update issued by Microsoft today (July 12th) for Windows 10. Another, separate, update for Windows 10 will be installed at the same time (see below).
· Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3172985)
· Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3173428)
If your current Windows 10 version is 10.0.10586.420, the Cumulative Update KB3172985 and KB3173428 will update your Windows 10 to Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.494): 10.0.10586.494
The update(s) will also update your Internet Explorer 11 to Version 11.494.10586.0 (Update Version 11.0.33 KB3170106)
Also, Windows Defender is updated to Version 4.9.10586.494.
Note: Due to the size of these updates the installation to your computer may be scheduled at some future date/time, e.g. 1:25 a.m. tomorrow morning, etc. Or, you can elect to download and install the updates manually. It only took a few minutes for my computers. To check for updates, and/or to learn if your computer is scheduled for updates at a future time/date - search 'check for updates' using Cortana.
Hope this helps and/or you find it interesting.
PS - All my settings remained exactly as I had them set after these significant updates. None of my privacy settings that I personally changed were changed [back] to the original default settings.
PPS - Microsoft is releasing a major Windows 10 update (Version 1607) on August 2nd, known as the 'Anniversary Update', a few days after the first anniversary of the Windows 10 2015 release date. This August 2nd date will come a few days after the free update expires.
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
IT response
Just so some of the rest of us know too, What did your IT kick caution you about?
that it did't run well on older computers/laptops. He did not give me details but I would imagine he was talking about the system requirements.
That may be my problem
Microsoft Feedback Frequency: Never
Diagnostic and usage data sent to Microsoft: On
This may be my problem. I have all my settings bassicly the same as you except:
My Feedback & diagnostic only has these options
"Windows should ask for my feedback"
I have Never
"Send your device data to Microsoft"
I have Basic
The only options I have here are Basic, Enhanced, Full (Recommended). I can not find the ON/OFF setting
The setting that changed was from Basic to Full.
I did the update yesterday and my settings did not change. I am thinking my settings changed when there was a complete program update several months ago. I had not check the settings for quite a while when I discovered the Basic back to Full.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Enjoying Win 10
I have owned/used almost every version of Windows. I'm running it in parallels now. I like it.
G.
WOW
In my services(Local) on my Windows 7 PC, I set the Windows Update startup to manual and noticed today that it had started on it's own !
I certainly hope that all this nonsense ends once and for all on July 30th
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In my services(Local) on my Windows 7 PC, I set the Windows Update startup to manual and noticed today that it had started on it's own !
I certainly hope that all this nonsense ends once and for all on July 30th
Don't set it to manual.
Try disabling auto update at two locations:
1) Control Panel - System and Security - Windows Update - Change settings
Set it to never check for updates
2) Windows Update local service set to Disabled
In my case, auto update can't detect recent updates. My Windows 7 Home laptop can't detect May, June and July updates and my 7 Ultimate desktop PC can't detect July updates. I wonder if Microsoft intentionally break Windows 7 updates or delay them as another way to force users to upgrade.