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Took the plunge.

koot wrote:

Only seven days left! I'm sure Microsoft's servers are getting busier by the hour as the end of the free upgrade offer grows closer...

Decided to go ahead and update my desktop Win 7 Pro while the upgrade is still free. Did it last night ... took a couple of hours, but Microsoft servers seemed to keep up pretty good.

I am still working out the kinks with some of the applications, and haven't decided yet if I will stay or revert back.

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I bet you'll really like it...

alandb wrote:
koot wrote:

Only seven days left! I'm sure Microsoft's servers are getting busier by the hour as the end of the free upgrade offer grows closer...

Decided to go ahead and update my desktop Win 7 Pro while the upgrade is still free. Did it last night ... took a couple of hours, but Microsoft servers seemed to keep up pretty good.

I am still working out the kinks with some of the applications, and haven't decided yet if I will stay or revert back.

Good for you! At least you weren't afraid like some others. I bet you'll really like it... I personally haven't come across anyone (out of probably 60-70+) that decided to revert back.

I find it funny how people here enjoy updating/upgrading their GPS units, but some are deathly afraid to upgrade their computer operating system. I guess they think the 350,000,000 people worldwide who have already upgraded to Windows 10 somehow were lucky. Oh well...

PS - Tell Cortana 'hello' for me.

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Update to 10

They must have changed the program. I tried to do the update i while ago, and I kept getting error messages so I gave up.
Last night I got the usual message "Free update time running out"
I gave it one last shot. It ran perfect with no glitches.
It will take a while to get used to.
Only problem was when I tried to shut my computer off, it would not do it.
Had to look up the problem fixes to find out what I was doing wrong.
(didn't kick it hard enough) Finally got it working right.
Time will tell if I like it.

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Thank Goodness

koot wrote:

Only seven days left! I'm sure Microsoft's servers are getting busier by the hour as the end of the free upgrade offer grows closer...

This has been a painful year to keep MS at bay with this "Let's Cram Windows 10 Down the Idiot's Throats" campaign!

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WINDOWS 10 upgrade

I have been using it for a while. It seems like WINDOWS 8 with a new coat of paint and rearranged menus....

... on the positive side, none of my software is arguing with it yet.

Yes, the free offering was aggressive.

BarneyBadass wrote:
koot wrote:

Only seven days left! I'm sure Microsoft's servers are getting busier by the hour as the end of the free upgrade offer grows closer...

This has been a painful year to keep MS at bay with this "Let's Cram Windows 10 Down the Idiot's Throats" campaign!

Yes, the free offering was aggressive. I don't ever recall seeing any other free offering being similarly rejected. It's strange how some people react.

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How do you like the E-Mail?

On my other Computer I downloaded Win 10 and it let me have the 8 e-mail program from old Win 8. Bought a new puter a few weeks ago with Win 10 on it, new e-mail is garbage! You have to buy Office to filter junk mail or take multiple steps for each piece of spam, including typing address every time. I had to find a way to get around Microsoft's scheme to find a 2 click method.

I use Mozilla Thunderbird as my email client

windwalker wrote:

On my other Computer I downloaded Win 10 and it let me have the 8 e-mail program from old Win 8. Bought a new puter a few weeks ago with Win 10 on it, new e-mail is garbage! You have to buy Office to filter junk mail or take multiple steps for each piece of spam, including typing address every time. I had to find a way to get around Microsoft's scheme to find a 2 click method.

I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and the Lightning calendar) as my email client. Had it for years and really like it.

I have Office 2013 Professional for Excel, Word, etc.

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I have a fire proof safe under my desk

jgermann wrote:
mgarledge wrote:

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(1) Windows 10 Laptop. I now use this for my day to day work. Everything is on it, even starting to keep new photos on it. This was bought a few months ago with Windows 10 on it and it boots up in just a few seconds. So far great. But, I have the fear of something happening and worry that I might need to restore it and was looking for a way to make sure I have everything ready just in case. I keep getting this reminder that I need to make restoring disc so that tells me why I can't find them, I haven't done them.
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Mary, when you commenting about starting to keep new photos on the Win 10 laptop and also being fearful that something [terrible] might happen, and further that the grandkids used at least some of your computers, it caused me to want to discuss another piece of the backup puzzle.

Where should one should keep backups?

In your case, you say that the backup of your documents and photos is on an external 4TB drive (which I am assuming is a USB drive).

Think about this, if you had a house fire near your computer, it is likely that both the computer and the USB drive would be destroyed because of their proximity. That breaks a cardinal rule that data and the backup of that data should not be in the same location. Ideally, the data and the backup of that data should be separated by miles, so that some disaster will not destroy both.

An alternative that I chosen is to purchase a fireproof safe. Not only do I use this safe to store important documents - like birth certificates, marriage certificate, passports, titles to assets, etc. - I use it to store USB drives containing "clones" and "images" of my computers.

You can buy a fireproof safe that will hold some 3 cu. ft. for around $300.

I strongly recommend that everyone consider this option.

I am using the fire proof safe for all my papers like you do. I have not thought to use it for my photos. I am backing up everything automatically once a week to a WD My Book 4TB External Hard Drive that is always connected to my Laptop by USB cord.

I have all my old photos and files backed up on my Windows 7 PC with the same set up but the WD My Book external HD is only 1TB.

With that said it looks like I should be backing up to a USB drive to store in my fireproof safe.

I have several USB drives but none that large and I keep other stuff on them (I should do as you say and put them in the fire proof safe)

Thanks.

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I use Windows Live Mail 2012

windwalker wrote:

On my other Computer I downloaded Win 10 and it let me have the 8 e-mail program from old Win 8. Bought a new puter a few weeks ago with Win 10 on it, new e-mail is garbage! You have to buy Office to filter junk mail or take multiple steps for each piece of spam, including typing address every time. I had to find a way to get around Microsoft's scheme to find a 2 click method.

I use my Windows Live Mail 2012. It works great on Windows 10.

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Yes, but I bet thats a free download Win 10

I have the same on my other computer that has the free download, but MS is doing away with that soon. New puters with Win 10 won't let you down load older versions of windows mail. I'm not a puter person so maybe it was me, but tried for weeks to get that from other computer or find a way to get the new e-mail to do click spam

I just took the old program

windwalker wrote:

I have the same on my other computer that has the free download, but MS is doing away with that soon. New puters with Win 10 won't let you down load older versions of windows mail. I'm not a puter person so maybe it was me, but tried for weeks to get that from other computer or find a way to get the new e-mail to do click spam

I did put the older verson from 2012 on my Windows 10.
take Windows Live Essentials 12 and only install Live Mail from it.

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start screen

for you people that don't like windows 10 start screen you can always add "start is back or a similar program" it boots to the desk top and looks like windows 7 with icons to start programs .
ive been using windows 10 since it came out and tweaked it until it was comfortable to use . I have it boot to the desktop with out having to sign in each time I start it up "I'm the only one that uses it" most people who look at my computer think its running windows 7 !

I read

I read that the Aug. 2 update would have a new start and it would be more like Windows 7.
Doesn't really matter as I am used to the Windows 10 start up and the Windows 7 start up. I think I like them both.

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W10 Upgrade licensing/activation.

Ok, here is a question for you Windows 10 upgrade experts. Before I upgraded my W7 Pro, I cloned my copy of Windows 7 to another hard drive as a backup, then applied the W10 upgrade to the original hard drive. Both of these hard drives are currently installed in my desktop computer that I upgraded.

So what happens to licensing/activation if I should boot the W7 cloned drive on the original hardware? Will Windows 7 still be activated? Will booting the W7 drive cause my copy of W10 on the other hard drive to become deactivated? Can I switch back and forth between these two OS's (by selecting the boot devjce) as long as I keep them on the same computer?

I have done some research and reading about the type of license and activation you get with the Windows 10 upgrade, but it is quite confusing, and I really couldn't find the answer to my question about booting the original hardware back to W7.

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Alan

I think this article should answer your questions.

https://askleo.com/saving-free-windows-10-upgrade-later/

An additional step that I would suggest you take would be to use Macrium Reflect to take an "image" of both of the hard drives in your computer.

John

Licensing/Activation issues

Thanks for the link John. I had already read that article in my research, but I don't think it specifically addresses the licensing/activation issues if you dual boot both the W7 and W10 on an ongoing basis. They do refer to potential activation problems if you change the hardware configuration, but I don't think that is an explicit explanation of the activation requirements over the long term.

I guess I would be pleasantly surprised if Microsoft intends to indefinitely allow ongoing switching back and forth between W7 and W10 using dual boot on a single machine that was upgraded. But then, go ahead ... surprise me. grin

Incidentally, I do have image backups of both the W7 and W10 drives. I use Acronis True Image, not the product you recommended, but it does essentially the same thing.

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Come on July 30

Just can wait for July 30 to be here so I will not get the BS notification of window 10 update anymore.

@alandb

What I think I recall but I can't recall from where; might have been tomshardware.com or anandtech.com but I can't recall now, but it went something like;

If you uogarade to Win 10 and don't revert back to Win 7 within the reversal period, even if you have booable copies of both, the win 7 copy will be considered a notauthentic copy of win 7.

But it's been a while, like last year when I read it.

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alandb wrote:

So what happens to licensing/activation if I should boot the W7 cloned drive on the original hardware? Will Windows 7 still be activated? Will booting the W7 drive cause my copy of W10 on the other hard drive to become deactivated? Can I switch back and forth between these two OS's (by selecting the boot devjce) as long as I keep them on the same computer?

I did an upgrade to Win 10 on my desktop and laptop. Both upgrades went smooth but I didn't like Win 10 so I decided to reinstall Win 7 on both machines. I'm still using Win 7 today.

What I am not sure about is the time between upgrade and downgrade back to Win 7. I'm also not sure if Win 10 license is still good on those 2 machines. Don't really care about it.

What I do know is after reinstalling Win 7 and manually installing SP1, Windows Update takes several days and several restarts but it still can't detect any updates. I've got to install a patch manually to get it to detect updates.

After a couple of months detecting updates smoothly, both machines have problem detecting updates, again. I have to install another patch manually to get it to detect new updates. I don't think that is a coincidence. Windows update never failed to detect updates in the past (before Win 10 was introduced). Like others, I can't wait for this BS free upgrade offer to expire. Hopefully there will be no more problems detecting updates after the offer expires.

I've found the same

chewbacca wrote:

What I do know is after reinstalling Win 7 and manually installing SP1, Windows Update takes several days and several restarts but it still can't detect any updates. I've got to install a patch manually to get it to detect updates.

After a couple of months detecting updates smoothly, both machines have problem detecting updates, again. I have to install another patch manually to get it to detect new updates. I don't think that is a coincidence. Windows update never failed to detect updates in the past (before Win 10 was introduced). Like others, I can't wait for this BS free upgrade offer to expire. Hopefully there will be no more problems detecting updates after the offer expires.

I've never had problems doing the monthly updates in the past but in the last 2-3 updates it's been extremely long. It now takes hours for both of my Windows 7 computers to find the new updates and then several hours to download them.

Please advise if you discover the miracle patch grin, I go on this website and have learned quite a bit on how to avoid specific KB etc.

http://www.infoworld.com/author/Woody-Leonhard/

Microsoft is really starting to play hardball & seems they'll go to all lengths in trying to give away their Windows 10 OS free of charge !

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again

I talked to some IT folks Friday at a happy hour, since time is running out. They said definitely DO NOT upgrade, always do a full install, which is not free.

They said they have seen processor occupancy on 5th and 6th gen Core i7's go from nothing (5-10%) to 99% at all times. At the same time, they take the problematic laptop and do a full install, and the problem is gone. They said it's not ready for prime time and if you have no issues with 7 professional, just keep it. If you really feel you need Win 10, buy a laptop that comes with it, not one that has a free upgrade.

That's what I was told so I'm keeping my ThinkPad at Win 7 Pro. And no, it does not upgrade all by itself...that imho is a serious misconception.

Priceless ......

johnnatash4 wrote:

I talked to some IT folks Friday at a happy hour, since time is running out. They said definitely DO NOT upgrade, always do a full install, which is not free.

They said they have seen processor occupancy on 5th and 6th gen Core i7's go from nothing (5-10%) to 99% at all times. At the same time, they take the problematic laptop and do a full install, and the problem is gone. They said it's not ready for prime time and if you have no issues with 7 professional, just keep it. If you really feel you need Win 10, buy a laptop that comes with it, not one that has a free upgrade.

That's what I was told so I'm keeping my ThinkPad at Win 7 Pro. And no, it does not upgrade all by itself...that imho is a serious misconception.

Do people actually believe this stuff???.....

Well..... I know people who know people that believe that this is the best version of Windows ever!

Most problems occur because of poorly maintained systems....by all these "experts"

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Manual Patch

canuk wrote:

I've never had problems doing the monthly updates in the past but in the last 2-3 updates it's been extremely long. It now takes hours for both of my Windows 7 computers to find the new updates and then several hours to download them.

Please advise if you discover the miracle patch

I guess I'm not the only one having problem with update detection.

My Win 7 update detection problem started early this year but it is a slightly different problem. The desktop PC is up to June 2016 updates and fails to detect July 2016 updates. Laptop fails to detect April through July 2016 updates. It fails to detect anything entirely. I didn't wait longer than 3-4 hours before giving up and retrying the next day. Done that for many months on the laptop. It detects nothing. Detection status just keep checking, never times out and never detects anything.

In my case KB3161608 is the patch that fixed my detection problem:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161608

Here's an article that talks about that patch: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/m...

It looks like that patch has been superseded by a newer update released in July 2016:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

Download the July version and install it manually. Hopefully that'll fix the problem.

As a side note, none of Windows 7 computers at the office has detection/update problem like my home computers. The difference is my Win7 PCs get updates through WSUS (Windows Server Update Services). Seems like Microsoft is only after home users to get them up to update to Win 10.

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johnnatash4 wrote:

I talked to some IT folks Friday at a happy hour, since time is running out. They said definitely DO NOT upgrade, always do a full install, which is not free.

I think the message is lost somewhere between you and the IT folks. Windows 10 is "free" regardless how you install it. The "free" is in quotes because Win 10 users are paying Microsoft some other way (privacy/data collection) instead of the all mighty $.

johnnatash4 wrote:

They said they have seen processor occupancy on 5th and 6th gen Core i7's go from nothing (5-10%) to 99% at all times. At the same time, they take the problematic laptop and do a full install, and the problem is gone.

Do you mean clean install as in starting with an empty hard disk? If that's what you meant to say, I believe it. OS upgrade can give you problems that'll go away if you do a clean installation. I never like OS upgrades.

perhaps...

chewbacca wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

They said they have seen processor occupancy on 5th and 6th gen Core i7's go from nothing (5-10%) to 99% at all times. At the same time, they take the problematic laptop and do a full install, and the problem is gone.

Do you mean clean install as in starting with an empty hard disk? If that's what you meant to say, I believe it. OS upgrade can give you problems that'll go away if you do a clean installation. I never like OS upgrades.

Excessive processor usage after a clean install is frequently due to missing chipset drivers for the motherboard.

Doing the upgrade, the drivers are already there so there's no requirement to install the drivers. On the other hand, sometimes the interfaces from the software change which render the drivers useless....

So it's entirely possible and I can completely see the case where after a clean install the CPU is pegged...

One of the reasons, I copy the drivers for my system to a directory on my HDD and about every 3 months for a couple of years I go get the new drivers; all of them, chipset; audio; evertying... I have a directory that looks like:

Motherboad_name
yyyy-mm-xx Drivers
audio
chipset
usb
etc..

Video_Card
yyyy-mm-xx drivers

That way, if I try to install a new OS I have the drivers necessary .

But that's just me

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This

chewbacca wrote:

What I do know is after reinstalling Win 7 and manually installing SP1, Windows Update takes several days and several restarts but it still can't detect any updates.

This is precisely why I went to Linux Mint 17.3. I tried to install Win 7 again before the deadline, but it wouldn't find any updates. It just searched, and searched...

Well, you can't run without any security updates, so I just tossed in the towel finally.

I'm not missing Windows at all so far.

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Windows 7 updates convenience rollup

chewbacca wrote:

...What I do know is after reinstalling Win 7 and manually installing SP1, Windows Update takes several days and several restarts but it still can't detect any updates. I've got to install a patch manually to get it to detect updates.

After a couple of months detecting updates smoothly, both machines have problem detecting updates, again. I have to install another patch manually to get it to detect new updates...

The How-To Geek explains a new Microsoft Convenience Rollup download that includes all the Windows 7 updates from Service Pack 1 through April 2016:

http://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how-to-update-windows-7-all-...

It is a two-step process. I hope the Microsoft links are still good.

Read through the post as well as the forum at the bottom of the page. Click on "join the discussion." Not everyone was able to do this successfully, but remember that tens of thousands may have done it without incident and the posters are the few who had difficulty.

At this point, anything is helpful. I am about to make a clean install of Windows 7 on one of my PCs and will try this method.

dobs108 smile

Linux mint

Juggernaut wrote:

...This is precisely why I went to Linux Mint 17.3...

As we speak I am about to format Windows and install Linux Mint on one of my PCs.

dobs108 mrgreen

It wouldn't be so bad if

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't trying to rush people into it. It took quite a while before the bugs were ironed out of Windows 7. It's rock solid now, so I don't see the point in switching to something just because it's new.

It's now one year old and being used on over 350,000,000

nrbovee wrote:

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't trying to rush people into it. It took quite a while before the bugs were ironed out of Windows 7. It's rock solid now, so I don't see the point in switching to something just because it's new.

It's now one year old and being used on over 350,000,000 devices worldwide.

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And Your Point is?

koot wrote:
nrbovee wrote:

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't trying to rush people into it. It took quite a while before the bugs were ironed out of Windows 7. It's rock solid now, so I don't see the point in switching to something just because it's new.

It's now one year old and being used on over 350,000,000 devices worldwide.

Cocaine is thousands of years old, hundreds of millions have died using it...

Doesn't mean it's any any good...

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When ever Isee free, look out

Never yet seen anything advertised as "Free" really being free, always costs something/somewhere

KB3035583 & KB3173040

MS is pushing KB3035583 again to update your system as a critical update.. beware..

MS is pushing this KB3173040 nagging you to upgrade.. this is another "Critical" update

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Thanks for the info. A year

Thanks for the info. A year goes by quick.

what

pb46 wrote:

Do people actually believe this stuff???.....

stuff?

Is there something in Win 7 Professional that is deficient?

As I had mentioned, I have car mfg software (what dealerships use that hook up to the headquarters--I didn't want to put it on this machine, but it's the only one that could complete the install--core i7 took 7 min to unpack and install, my other ThinkPad failed after nearly 30 min.) that I suspect would stop working if I were to go to Win 10. Basically the IT folks said from their experience thus far, there isn't any advantage to Win 10. I think this notion of "free" is the very basis of this thread. Like it was once mentioned in a song, the lure of easy money.

If you so desperately want Win 10, either get a machine that came with it, or start with a new install. It's not that complicated as this thread has made it out to be. Comes down to if your machine is a toy, or to do work. If it's to do work, wow how painful it must be to think about all the time wasted.

Something just reminded me...

I was thinking about never having the problem of deciding to upgrade any other operating system. Then I remembered why.

I would keep my computer as it came until things changed in the technology sector. Then I would buy a new computer with all the new hardware and software. I never even thought about upgrading the operating system.

I have an XP PC in the barn.
A Vista PC upstairs for games for grand kids.
A Windows 7 PC for husband and games for grand kids.
A Windows 7 Netbook (upgraded to Windows 10) bought for traveling and now used for Weather Station.
A Windows 10 Laptop for my up to date computer needs.

I remember several more over the years starting with a TI-99, a Toshiba laptop, and others with DOS.

I guess what I am saying, as the above post, if I need to upgrade I just buy what is new and then know it has the correct hardware on it. Back when I bought them I never would have considered putting a different operating system on them. I think once upgrading to a new operating system was mentioned in Best Buy but I opted to buy new because I didn't know what it would do .

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I just find it useful

mgarledge wrote:

I was thinking about never having the problem of deciding to upgrade any other operating system. Then I remembered why.

I would keep my computer as it came until things changed in the technology sector. Then I would buy a new computer with all the new hardware and software. I never even thought about upgrading the operating system.

I have an XP PC in the barn.
A Vista PC upstairs for games for grand kids.
A Windows 7 PC for husband and games for grand kids.
A Windows 7 Netbook (upgraded to Windows 10) bought for traveling and now used for Weather Station.
A Windows 10 Laptop for my up to date computer needs.

I remember several more over the years starting with a TI-99, a Toshiba laptop, and others with DOS.

I guess what I am saying, as the above post, if I need to upgrade I just buy what is new and then know it has the correct hardware on it. Back when I bought them I never would have considered putting a different operating system on them. I think once upgrading to a new operating system was mentioned in Best Buy but I opted to buy new because I didn't know what it would do .

That the "expert" last Friday said, they have taken core i7 laptops that were working perfectly, upgraded them to Win 10 Professional, and had the processor occupancy go to, and stay at, 99%. So a fast 6th gen core i7 was crippled from the upgrade. They then took the same machines, blew away the SSDs, installed Win 10 from new, not an upgrade, and the machine works just fine. And after all that, including the cost of the new Windows 10, there is not any advantage other than the user can say they have Win 10. All kidding aside, I found the comments to be useful, and help in my decision to not upgrade anything. Again, I think it's this misinformation where all Win 7 devices start upgrading all by themselves....I suppose a conspiracy is much more interesting. Look at who's the 3rd richest man in the world, maybe we should start thinking about what he's doing as well. wink

also food for thought, how many times have you formally uninstalled something, only to find many traces of it everywhere, or, when you reinstall, all your previous settings are in there? Upgrades often do not work as well as they should, nor do uninstalls.

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dobs108 wrote:

The How-To Geek explains a new Microsoft Convenience Rollup download that includes all the Windows 7 updates from Service Pack 1 through April 2016:

http://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how-to-update-windows-7-all-...

It is a two-step process. I hope the Microsoft links are still good.

Read through the post as well as the forum at the bottom of the page. Click on "join the discussion." Not everyone was able to do this successfully, but remember that tens of thousands may have done it without incident and the posters are the few who had difficulty.

At this point, anything is helpful. I am about to make a clean install of Windows 7 on one of my PCs and will try this method.

dobs108 smile

I fixed my update detection problem already but this article comes in handy if I decide to reinstall Windows 7 in the future. Thanks.

Thanks chewbacca!

chewbacca wrote:

...I guess I'm not the only one having problem with update detection.

My Win 7 update detection problem started early this year but it is a slightly different problem. The desktop PC is up to June 2016 updates and fails to detect July 2016 updates. Laptop fails to detect April through July 2016 updates. It fails to detect anything entirely. I didn't wait longer than 3-4 hours before giving up and retrying the next day. Done that for many months on the laptop. It detects nothing. Detection status just keep checking, never times out and never detects anything.

In my case the July 2016 patch KB3161608 fixed my detection problem:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161608

Here's an article that talks about that patch: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/m...

It looks like that patch has been superseded by a newer update released in July 2016:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

Download the July version and install it manually. Hopefully that'll fix the problem....

Thanks Chewbacca! I downloaded your last update for the Windows 7 July 2016 patch and that solved the problem!

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

dobs108 smile

I have the Win 10 iso

I plan on putting it on a extra hard drive I have and trying win 10. Of course I'm not in a hurry because I downloaded it about 3 weeks ago.
This way I have win 10 on 1 drive and I maintain win 7 pro on the other.

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pwohlrab wrote:

I plan on putting it on a extra hard drive I have and trying win 10. Of course I'm not in a hurry because I downloaded it about 3 weeks ago.
This way I have win 10 on 1 drive and I maintain win 7 pro on the other.

to have different machines and keep them separate. But of course, that's cost prohibitive.

I never install personal stuff on my work laptop, although I have admin rights on my work laptop (would not have it any longer when it gets upgraded).

I needed to fix my car and I tried my best to not put the mfg. software on my ThinkPad T450S, but I had no choice. The software was compressed to 30 gb, and took a full 7 min. to unpack and install. My other ThinkPad running 7 home failed after almost 1/2 hour.

I was thinking about just buying a T460S with Win 10 Pro, and was going to pull the trigger, but I found out yes it has a 6th gen i7, but they actually removed the replaceable battery and it costs more.

The beauty of the T450s is it has a removeable and internal battery, for 2X the fun. It's just amazing that like cars, technology is removing features, and increasing the price, and able to still sell....

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johnnatash4 wrote:

I never install personal stuff on my work laptop, although I have admin rights on my work laptop (would not have it any longer when it gets upgraded).

I'm sure you will have the same admin rights in Windows 10. The only thing different is your rights to choose what to install and when to install them. I believe that only applies to Win 10 Home version.

If it's a work laptop, it's normally Pro version. If I'm not mistaken, Win 10 Pro allows you to choose what updates to install and when you want to install them.

Window 10 upgrade

I am glad to have confirmation of what my IT said about installing Windows 10. I will keep my old laptop as is with Windows 7. i have a new laptop that came with Windows 10 and a surface.

Win 10

Took both my laptop and older desktop to Win 10 from 7. No real problems. Interestingly, the desktop benefited most from it. It had gotten to where it booted rather slowly, but it's snappy now. It also freed up a lot of disk space after the upgrade. Look at Spybot Anti-Beacon to help with some of the Win 10 privacy concerns.

Efforts Abandoned

I tried to upgrade. Two of my computers upgraded relatively easily. The others... not so much. I gave up. It wasn't worth the multi-day effort.

Nothing seems more important

Nothing seems more important than Windows 10 upgrade reminder:

https://twitter.com/rezedus/status/758581309396647936

No doubt Windows 10 is a BIG DEAL!

chewbacca wrote:

Nothing seems more important than Windows 10 upgrade reminder:

https://twitter.com/rezedus/status/758581309396647936

No doubt Windows 10 is a BIG DEAL!

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Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...

Best feature yet!

Juggernaut wrote:

This is precisely why I went to Linux Mint...

This is the best feature of Windows so far -- driving people to try Linux smile

It seems to be

bwarden wrote:

This is the best feature of Windows so far -- driving people to try Linux smile

Heh!

Well, I converted a buddy of mine to Mint 18 as well. He loves it. grin

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