Available now City Navigator 2013.40 North America

 

City Navigator 2013.40 North America is Available.
Downloading now with Garmin Express, did not see any "Options" before downloading other than just the Download button.

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Nuvi 2460LMT
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Navigator 2013.40 North America

SurfMacJpMtb,

I updated my 2350LMT on my Mac last night using Garmin Lifetime Map Updater and, compared to the 2013.30 update, this was a Marathon. It took about 1.5 hours to download and over 20 minutes to install. Last time the whole job was done in about 15 minutes.

Garnin Lifetime Map Updater users can set a Preference to save a copy of the file on their Mac.

It's always best to run the latest maps.

Have a good weekend everybody.

There is

perpster wrote:

t923347, thanks for the mapupdater.exe links. One question: If using your instructions, but only installing on one PC and one GPS, do I want to leave the installation files on my PC or not leave them? I'm not sure what the installation files include. Thanks.

There is no need to use the "keep the installation files on your PC" option if you are only updating ONE device. You only need to instruct Garmin's MapUpdater to install the maps to the GPS and your computer and leave the "keep the installation....." box UNTICKED.

Also if you will not be using Mapsource or only want to use Basecamp without your GPS attached to the computer, you could pick the option to install the map update to your computer only. This will save disk space on your computer and also speed up the download and installation of the new maps.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

I sure hope your wrong

grzesja wrote:

I used MapUpdater. But that doesn't mean that it's not obsolete program (according to Garmin).

Alandb pointed out that Garmin updated a FAQ on their website on Feb 19th 2013 and the very first line states : "The latest versions of Garmin Express and Garmin Map Updater offer the ability to install a map update directly to an SD card."

http://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={0b087770-5dba-11e1-dd60-000000000000}

Garmin even provides a direct link to the UpDater.exe https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={60f574f0-602d-11e2-f3fb-000000000000}

It certainly doesn't seem like they're about to discontinue the program and for once something works properly it would really be a shame.

Cheers smile

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Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk

My experience

My experience over the last few map updates has been that any version of MapUpdater that I had would work fine for installing new maps. Given that, even if Garmin does discontinue updating the program, older version will probably work for sometime (maybe forever).

I'd advise everyone to get a copy of the newest version of MapUpdater and keep it handy, just in case Garmin never fixes all the issues they currently have with GE, Lifetime Updater and myDashboard. rolleyes

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

Done...

t923347 wrote:

My experience over the last few map updates has been that any version of MapUpdater that I had would work fine for installing new maps. Given that, even if Garmin does discontinue updating the program, older version will probably work for sometime (maybe forever).

I'd advise everyone to get a copy of the newest version of MapUpdater and keep it handy, just in case Garmin never fixes all the issues they currently have with GE, Lifetime Updater and myDashboard. rolleyes

Done...and saved!

Thank you t923347

t923347 wrote:
perpster wrote:

t923347, thanks for the mapupdater.exe links. One question: If using your instructions, but only installing on one PC and one GPS, do I want to leave the installation files on my PC or not leave them? I'm not sure what the installation files include. Thanks.

There is no need to use the "keep the installation files on your PC" option if you are only updating ONE device. You only need to instruct Garmin's MapUpdater to install the maps to the GPS and your computer and leave the "keep the installation....." box UNTICKED.

Also if you will not be using Mapsource or only want to use Basecamp without your GPS attached to the computer, you could pick the option to install the map update to your computer only. This will save disk space on your computer and also speed up the download and installation of the new maps.

Thanks!

Sorry, in the last paragraph

Sorry, in the last paragraph of my post which reads:

"Also if you will not be using Mapsource or only want to use Basecamp without your GPS attached to the computer, you could pick the option to install the map update to your computer only. This will save disk space on your computer and also speed up the download and installation of the new maps."

It should have read:

"you could pick the option to install the map update to THE DEVICE ONLY" and not "to your computer only". Shouldn't type before breakfast. redface

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

My Experience, So Far

Here's what's happened so far this morning:

-downloaded MapUpdater from the link above.
-connected GPSr to pc via usb
-ran MapUpdater
-selected install to unit and computer, do not leave installation files on computer. Selected full North America.
-program gave these estimates:
47 mins to dl
5 mins to prepare maps
24 mins to install maps

-ran the installation. Estimated dl time dropped to 47 mins from 70 mins in approx. 30 seconds.
-36 mins into the dl, got red windows error box "Unexpected error occurred and progam must close. Contact Garmin Support if continues...".
-clicked ok (or Close) on error window (no other choice).
-re-started MapUpdater. It tells me "Maps are up to date." Gives the option to re-install with different options. I took that option (alternative was "No"). Selected all same options as first time.
-MapUpdater immediately shows "Download Complete" (full green bar). In a few seconds the full green bar shows for maps "Preparing Complete". Estimate for "Install Maps" is 31 minutes instead of previous estimate of 27 minutes.
-22 minutes into the Install Maps phase I got "Your maps are now up to date".

Before/After Comparison

perpster wrote:

Here's what's happened so far this morning:

-downloaded MapUpdater from the link above.
-connected GPSr to pc via usb
-ran MapUpdater
-selected install to unit and computer, do not leave installation files on computer. Selected full North America.
-program gave these estimates:
47 mins to dl
5 mins to prepare maps
24 mins to install maps

-ran the installation. Estimated dl time dropped to 47 mins from 70 mins in approx. 30 seconds.
-36 mins into the dl, got red windows error box "Unexpected error occurred and progam must close. Contact Garmin Support if continues...".
-clicked ok (or Close) on error window (no other choice).
-re-started MapUpdater. It tells me "Maps are up to date." Gives the option to re-install with different options. I took that option (alternative was "No"). Selected all same options as first time.
-MapUpdater immediately shows "Download Complete" (full green bar). In a few seconds the full green bar shows for maps "Preparing Complete". Estimate for "Install Maps" is 31 minutes instead of previous estimate of 27 minutes.
-22 minutes into the Install Maps phase I got "Your maps are now up to date".

FYI:
Before -item- After comparison:

4.80 GB -GPS Used- 4.86 GB
2.50 GB -GPS Free- 2.44 GB
1,877,152 kb -gmapprom.img- 1,926,368 kb
459,424 kb -D319107A/D31908A- 458,794 kb

I prefer the half-screen JCV. Hopefully the 458, 794 kb jcv is the full coverage (all jcv's available), at the half screen image size. (Rather than truncated number of jcv locations).

Couldn't I Just???

ChefDon16 wrote:

Tried to install 2013.40 on my new nuvi 3590 and got a message that there was not enough space on my device and it needed to put info on SD card.....which it did.

It installed 2 folders: temp (empty) and Garmin (containing JCV folder with D3191080A.jcv, and the following files GMAPPROM.GMA, GMAPPROM.IMG (almost 2gig),Gmapprom.UNL AND GMAPPUPDATE.GSD. It looks like it put some of my system files on my SD card in view/edit mode.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?

Thinking about reverting to my backup, could anyone point me to discussion thread that would walk me through this process? Is it just a simple delete on device and paste from backup?

Thanks

Don

Tried installing map update which just errors out. Says to ask for Garmin support.

I was thinking.....I have 3.76 gigs on my device and lifetime installer put the maps and JVC onto my SD couldn't I just move the files from the SD card into the system folder on the device? Shouldn't that work?? There is enough room for the 2.32 gigs of files that the installer put on my SD card.

Shouln't that work??

Please help!

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ChefDon

your choice

perpster wrote:

t923347, thanks for the mapupdater.exe links. One question: If using your instructions, but only installing on one PC and one GPS, do I want to leave the installation files on my PC or not leave them? I'm not sure what the installation files include. Thanks.

If you want to save a little time on a possible future install or re-install of these same maps, and don't mind losing something like two to five gigabytes of PC hard drive space, then select the "leave on" option. If you value the hard drive space more than the possible time saving--then don't turn that option on.

By the way, in my case I had two different models, an 855 which I did first, and then a 3790LMT. I selected the "leave on" option for the 855. Of course, that did not download the different junction view file used by the 3790. What I actually saw was a clearly abbreviated download on my second unit (the 3790)--very roughly ten minutes instead of a half hour or so. Possibly this meant it was smart enough just to download the things which were different between the models.

I did not figure out where the temporary installation files were placed, but harbor a suspicion that they went to my C drive. I think the "where do you want the files" option on this program may refer to files retained for use by Mapsource/BaseCamp. I was watching my C drive space, and think it went up after the second install, suggesting that not selecting the "leave on" option that second time may indeed have released space, but if true also suggesting that those files go to C if there is room available. Not good for people with SSD C drives, which is getting rather more common. I think on a previous mapupdater run I had an even more overcrowded C drive, and that mapupdater detected there was not enough room for installation files and asked where to put them instead. So maybe a way to get control of this placement is artificially to consume C drive space with big disposable files. Ugh.

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personal GPS user since 1992

location of installation files, %temp%\img

archae86 wrote:
perpster wrote:

...I did not figure out where the temporary installation files were placed, but harbor a suspicion that they went to my C drive.

On my Windows 7 system and using MapUpdater, the installation files are stashed away in the %temp%\img directory. The directory tree shell stays regardless of your choice of keeping or not keeping the installation files. The actual data are kept only if you choose the keep-data option. Curious to know what happens with Garmin Express.

thanks for info!

will update our 275T soon.

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Garmin nuvi 2595LMT; Android 5.0 (Samsung GS3)

Garmin Express And The Garmin Nuvi 500

I used Garmin Express for two Garminfones, but the Garmin Nuvi 500 didn't work out so well. I ended up going with Garmin Map Updater download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe for the Garmin Nuvi 500. I think the problem is that it is only configured for the Lower 49 States. Anyway, the Garmin Map Updater worked just fine for the Nuvi 500.

MapUpdater

t923347 wrote:

Since Garmin Express is giving folks problems it's probably best to use Garmin's MapUpdater software as it will work great to update your GPS and will give you the options to place a copy on your computer for Mapsource/Basecamp to use and provide a means to update mulitple devices while downloading the update files only ONCE.

In summary here is where you can obtain the latest version of MapUpdater:

PC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

MAC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

Thanks for the link to MapUpdater. After downloading it worked for my three units.

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nüvi 680, 265t, 295W, iFinder H2o

Maps Tied to MicroSD

ChefDon16 wrote:

I was thinking.....I have 3.76 gigs on my device and lifetime installer put the maps and JVC onto my SD couldn't I just move the files from the SD card into the system folder on the device? Shouldn't that work?? There is enough room for the 2.32 gigs of files that the installer put on my SD card.

Shouln't that work??

Please help!

No. If you attempt to install to the MicroSD through either Garmin Express or MapUpdater it locks the maps to the MicroSD card. Attempting to move them to the internal memory results in an error when you attempt to access the map. In your case, you want to try the old school method. Using MapUpdater, install the map to the PC only, then use Garmin MapInstall to actually install the map to your device.

While not absolutely necessary given the amount of space on your internal memory, you might want to pull all the gmapprom.* files off your GPS and store them somewhere on your computer, then run MapUpdater/MapInstall.

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"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams

Some left behind in my case--thanks.

Pillowcase wrote:

On my Windows 7 system and using MapUpdater, the installation files are stashed away in the %temp%\img directory.

Much thanks, Pillowcase. With my specific sequence (including use of Garmin Express on one 3790, including at least two failures followed by success, then uninstalling Garmin Express, then MapUpdater on with "keep" on an 855, then MapUpdater without "keep" on a different 3790, the location you mention ended with a directory named "City Navigator North America NT 2013.40.gmap" with 760 MB of contents, plus three .cab files at that level clearly from this install with another 77 MB. So deleting them has got my SSD C: drive to the highest free space in months

For those wanting to find this location in less programmer-style ways, in my case this pointed on my C: drive under users to the user I was logged in as, and under that to "AppData\Local\Temp\IMG\". On my system I am confident that all files and directories under that IMG directory came from yesterday's Garmin installs-but no promises on your system--be careful what you delete.

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personal GPS user since 1992

Speed difference between internal memory and SD card??

Well now that GE has forced the install of 2013.40 to my SD card on my 2555 does anyone have any idea if there is a speed difference between running the map from internal memory vs. from the SD card??

Updated two 2460's via

Updated two 2460's via Garmin express, painfully slow but worked the first time (for each) with no problems.

Hesitant to use express on my old Zumo 550 though .....

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

Yes, I did

mgarledge wrote:
metricman wrote:

After a 4+ hour transfer from my PC to my 660, Garmin still wants me to take city streets loaded with traffic lights rather than the quicker interstate route.

Come on Garmin, the routing algorithm used to be better than this.

Did you settings change from Fastest to shortest?

I always check the settings after an update.

I've had them change before.

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Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Done!

Thanks for the heads up - I still use the Garmin Lifetime Updater app. I look for the news on this site that the new update is out then manually click the icon to provide the update since the automatic notification has never worked.

It works flawlessly but I must say that my street still does not show up - maybe in the next one!

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JRoz -- DriveSmart 55 & Traffic

I thought I had read

I thought I had read somewhere that MapUpdater wasn't working anymore in favor of that Garmin Express bloat mess. I know WebUpdater is working, since it completed a firmware upgrade for my 760 that Express refused to. I'd love to download MapUpdater, but it seems Garmin no longer makes it available. Maddening, I tell you!

From t92...

Kerzhan wrote:

I thought I had read somewhere that MapUpdater wasn't working anymore in favor of that Garmin Express bloat mess. I know WebUpdater is working, since it completed a firmware upgrade for my 760 that Express refused to. I'd love to download MapUpdater, but it seems Garmin no longer makes it available. Maddening, I tell you!

A previous message in this thread from member t92...

Since Garmin Express is giving folks problems it's probably best to use Garmin's MapUpdater software as it will work great to update your GPS and will give you the options to place a copy on your computer for Mapsource/Basecamp to use and provide a means to update mulitple devices while downloading the update files only ONCE.

In summary here is where you can obtain the latest version of MapUpdater:

PC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

MAC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

Always Difficult

Why are we having so many issues with what should be a straight forward process?

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romanviking

I think I will give it a

I think I will give it a week or two.

Express updater - "Cannot authenticate maps" error

I posted a summary over at: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/39002?page=5 but the short version is I updated using Express updater and now get a "Cannot authenticate maps" error on startup. Re-installed a couple times, same error. Downloaded maps not seen in basecamp.
Not impressed. I'll try MapUpdater later in the week.

Fast download

Used Garmin Express on my MacBook on the awful Internet at this hotel and it took one hour to download and forty five minutes to install on my 3790. This is a world record for me. Every download up to now took almost twelve hours to download and install at home. Considering this was done here, I'm more than amazed. Score 1 for Garmin as far as I'm concerned.

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NUVI 660, Late 2012 iMac, Macbook 2.1 Fall 2008, iPhone6 , Nuvi 3790, iPad2

Quick Download with MapUpdater

Used Garmin MapUpdater for easiest download ever for my Nuvi 3760.

Estimated Times:
Download - 45 mins.
Prep - 5 mins.
Install - 37 mins.

Actual Times:
Download - 23 mins.
Prep - Less than 1 min.
Install - 27 mins.

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Garmin nüvi 3597LMTHD, 3760 LMT, & 255LMT, - "Those who wish for fairness without first protecting freedom will end up with neither freedom nor fairness." - Milton Friedman

Wow

Took them long enough.

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Dwayne, Nuvi 1690

Another location

archae86 wrote:
Pillowcase wrote:

On my Windows 7 system and using MapUpdater, the installation files are stashed away in the %temp%\img directory.

...For those wanting to find this location in less programmer-style ways, in my case this pointed on my C: drive under users to the user I was logged in as, and under that to "AppData\Local\Temp\IMG\". On my system I am confident that all files and directories under that IMG directory came from yesterday's Garmin installs-but no promises on your system--be careful what you delete.

Another location:
I used Garmin Lifetime Updater on Windows 7 x64 system and all files are located in C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\LMU
Under all I mean: Installation files, map unlocked for the given unit, JCV file, 3D map, and those additional files specific for Nuvi 3790 such as: ASR, G2S and db file.

Thanks for the news. I hope

Thanks for the news. I hope to install the new update next weekend using updater instead of garmin express after reading about problems with GE. Thank you poi-factory community!

Thank you.

After weeks of false alarm, it is truly a good news.

Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks for the heads up

For some reason neither Express nor Updater picked this up automatically. But when I told it to look for the update, it found it.

It would be nice if Garmin

It would be nice if Garmin gave us a better tool to downloand and install and choose the full maps, or no, full JVC or not etc.

This is 2013 and you think a C=64 had better software back in the mid '80s...

Thanks..

This is helpful info.

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RKF (Bethesda, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot

thanks

for letting us know

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It is available

Kerzhan wrote:

I thought I had read somewhere that MapUpdater wasn't working anymore in favor of that Garmin Express bloat mess. I know WebUpdater is working, since it completed a firmware upgrade for my 760 that Express refused to. I'd love to download MapUpdater, but it seems Garmin no longer makes it available. Maddening, I tell you!

It is available, but I couldn not get it to work on my system. It just stops working and says to contact Garmin support. Let's see now....express is a no go, lifetime updater a no go, mapupdate a no go. What is happening at Garmin???

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ChefDon

Read

ChefDon16 wrote:
Kerzhan wrote:

I thought I had read somewhere that MapUpdater wasn't working anymore in favor of that Garmin Express bloat mess. I know WebUpdater is working, since it completed a firmware upgrade for my 760 that Express refused to. I'd love to download MapUpdater, but it seems Garmin no longer makes it available. Maddening, I tell you!

It is available, but I couldn not get it to work on my system. It just stops working and says to contact Garmin support. Let's see now....express is a no go, lifetime updater a no go, mapupdate a no go. What is happening at Garmin???

Read back a few posts to download the programs that work.

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Nuvi 2460LMT

It didn't work

Quote:

Read back a few posts to download the programs that work.

That's where I got the file from, but it did not work on my system for some reason. Just get an error message that the program has stopped working and to contact Garmin. I guess I need to go to Garmin. I am already working with them on trying to get all the files into internal memory instead of putting some on my SD card when I have plenty of room on the unit for the files. What a pain this is becoming.

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ChefDon

Hope it fixes an intersection that had construction

I hope this map update fixes an intersection that changed a bit in construction a while back. I never quite know when things actually will make it into the map updates.

Give it 5-6 years...or maybe a bit longer.

jonny5 wrote:

I hope this map update fixes an intersection that changed a bit in construction a while back. I never quite know when things actually will make it into the map updates.

Give it 5-6 years...or maybe a bit longer.

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Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...

2455

Has anyone put 2013.40 on a Nuvi 2455LMT yet? Will it fit on the unit or will I need to put it on a SD card?

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Garmin nuvi 2455LMT (wife uses nuvi 255w) (sold C330)

Maybe

compman72 wrote:

Has anyone put 2013.40 on a Nuvi 2455LMT yet? Will it fit on the unit or will I need to put it on a SD card?

No telling.....even if there is enough room on the unit the installation program may think that there is not enough room and make you put it on an SD card.

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ChefDon

Should be OK

compman72 wrote:

Has anyone put 2013.40 on a Nuvi 2455LMT yet? Will it fit on the unit or will I need to put it on a SD card?

The 2455 should be a 7GB device and there should be no problem installing the new map

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/34375

Installing to the SD card - Clarification

Over lunch, I attempted, the updated. It failed.
I chose from Garmin Express the to "device and Computer" option, where the "computer" destination was the SD card.

After work, I will try again. I will assume that you choose only the "computer" option, then select the SD card as the destination for the map updates. Is that correct?

The next question before doing the update; should I delete the prior set of maps from the Garmin?

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Garmin Nuvi650 - Morehead City, NC

Disks vs Download

Does anyone get the maps on DVD vs. downloading them? My understanding is that only verion .1 is available that way, so only 1 update per year.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Download took forever!

I'd guess Garmin hasn't heard of services such as Akamai who will help them offload traffic like this -- my download took hours, often dropping to <30kb/sec (on a business hookup which delivered download speeds of a few mb/sec for other things while Garmin was crawling along).

But finally completed, and got it installed.

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Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

50 minutes

Just added the map to my Netbook and it took only 50 minutes. Faster today....

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

That maybe

gdfaini wrote:

Does anyone get the maps on DVD vs. downloading them? My understanding is that only verion .1 is available that way, so only 1 update per year.

That maybe but another issue is that I don't think you will get the Junction View file and possibly other add-on map files.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.
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