Available now City Navigator 2013.40 North America

You can use an older copy of MapUpdater to download and install 2013.40. It will work just the same as the newest version. The older version of MapUpdater will offer the same options for installing the update to your GPS and Computer as the old versions did. You can certainly run the old version now and select "install on PC only" so that you can use them with Mapsource or Basecamp.

I used MapUpdater to update the maps on 3 Nuvi's and can now use these maps with both Mapsource and Basecamp. All that's required is to tick the box on MapUpdater's install option screen to leave the installation files on your computer and also select the option to install the update on your GPS and Computer.

Once the first update is done you will have the maps for MS/BC and one updated Nuvi. Then just connect the next device and run MapUpdater again. On the Options page select, Install on Device Only. If you have additional devices to update, once again tick "leave a copy of the installation files on the computer". The update will now proceed and look exactly the same as the first one did (same screens appears, same progression bars etc.) but will go very quickly as the update files are already available.

When you go to update your LAST device, follow the same process but DON'T tick the "leave a copy ..." box. I think this will clear your hard drive space (not 100% sure) of the installation files. Of course you will have a couple of GB of drive space taken up by the copy of the update required by Mapsource/Basecamp.

Still on the road with a pay-as-you-go hotspot. Gotta get home so I can update!

Since Garmin Express is giving folks problems it's probably best to use Garmin's MapUpdater software as it will work great to update your GPS and will give you the options to place a copy on your computer for Mapsource/Basecamp to use and provide a means to update mulitple devices while downloading the update files only ONCE.

In summary here is where you can obtain the latest version of MapUpdater:

PC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

MAC version -

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

It's about time Garmin 2013.40 maps are out. That Garmin Express needs work. A nice idea but half baked as usual. It's already been updated multiple times and yet still has bugs and still lacks some basic functionality.

Tried to update my 2555LMT with GE with no success ....presumably because of "not enough space".
So following the comments I read here, I found a copy of Garmin's MapUpdater v3.2.2 lying around in my downloads from my original map download when I purchased my unit......and voila! works perfect, no errors.
Obviously I lost a few mbs in space (692 vs 739)with the update. Looks like I don't have to buy more memory just yet!

They've updated multiple times and backdated as well going by the forum posts I've been reading. When they start issuing an older version in place of something newer is when I start to wonder about it's stability. I've not even downloaded/used it yet. There is no need. Their WebUpdater/MapUpdater software has already been proven stable. I really have no need nor desire to unwillingly & unknowingly beta test something as critical as map updating software.

Where do you find "liftetime updater" to install, insteast of GE?

Apparently, Garmin no longer offers LifetimeUpdater. All links to LifetimeUpdater now redirect to Garmin Express. Use MapUpdater instead as Garmin Express seems to have it's own issues.

PC version -
download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

MAC version -
download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

I noticed this morning with new map update 2013.40; all the speed limits on my usual route to work has been gone.. Has anyone experienced similar situation?

I hope my maps has been updated properly. My internet connection dropped couple of times in the process.. I will reinstall the new map.

Garmin really needs to hire some competent computer programers. Garmin Express is just another failure in my opinion. Contrary to what some posters wrote, I found no possibility of saving the map to my computer. I uninstalled Garmin Express and used MapUpdater which always worked for me.

People tend to forget when uninstalling software debris always remain in the registry, in time this will slow your PC down. I do clean the registry with programs designed for that but I'm certain hidden entries still remain.

Hi all

Well FINALLY I got GE and 2013.40 to work. At first it downloaded and installed it. When I fired my 1450 up it gave me the no map message. So I went through it, deleted a few files. (old maps) and then reinstalled 2013.30 using basecamp. Then it worked fine. So I tried GE again, and this time it worked. Checked the 1450 again and now I had both 2013.30, and .40. So I went back and deleted 2013.30 and now everything is fine.

Garmin Express needs work ! I still like basecamp and mapsource.

YMMV

Thanks for the info!

Just the reverse situation for me. I have a couple of test routes that I use to confirm JVC files and speed limit detail. 2013.40 is showing speed limits in places where it never has shown them before.

Try Revo Uninstaller. It does a good job of removing a software program.

http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=revo&m=

I have Revo Pro. It didn't even know about Garmin Express. I had to use Programs and Features on Windows 7 to remove it. I hope I got all the junk.

Wow, I drive to Florida for a couple weeks away from my desktop and all heck breaks loose!

I have three nuvis to update (but will hold off on the 855 until I can find the large jcv file) and also want the maps to be installed to two computers for use by Mapsource and BaseCamp. Are the following statements correct?

-It's best to use MapUpdater (see above quoted text) right now for this map update rather than Garmin Express given my needs.

-Lifetime Updater (not that I ever installed it) is now history and no longer offered by Garmin.

-Going to myGarmin and manually looking for and doing a map update will now not use MapUpdater as in the past but will install, if needed, and use Garmin Express instead.

-Garmin Express does not offer an "install to computer" option.

Thanks in advance.

3 RAR volumes, unpacked size of 792,980,375 bytes.
Part 1 of 3
Part 2 of 3
Part 3 of 3

Disclaimer: These are not mine. However I do know the source and it is reputable. If you are concerned with getting virii or malware through these links, do not download the files.

You must have a program that understands .RAR compression in order to successfully extract the JCV file.

Using GE Version 2.1.8, I updated my 3590LMT with zero issues. The process first downloaded and saved the new maps to my computer and then transferred them to my GPS. Took about an hour and a half overall. I am using Windows 7 and the map data was stored in a Garmin folder under the Program Data subdirectory of the C Drive which has 6.5GB of data in it. A JCV file with yesterdays date was among the files stored as well. Cannot tell if it was new or not. When I installed GE 2.1.8, it took it upon itself to uninstall the Lifetime Map Updater. After a test run this weekend, I will back up the entire GPS again. In summary, no problems, worked well.

I was surprised when I went to update the maps, like many, I was told I had insufficient memory in the unit. I installed the map to the SD card, but I was wondering...

1) Is the new map that much larger than the old map such that it really can't fit in the unit?

2) Does the old map still reside in my unit and the new map on my SD card? If so, can I somehow delete the old map (I haven't looked at any directory structure to find it) and replace it with the new map into internal memory?

I generally tend to like to use internal memory over external from reliability and (perhaps) access speed reasons. Perhaps it doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious about why the need for an SD card for a map update in the first place.

-It's best to use MapUpdater (see above quoted text) right now for this map update rather than Garmin Express given my needs.

If you updating devices only you can use Express. In most cases it will work fine. If not use MapUpdater.

-Lifetime Updater (not that I ever installed it) is now history and no longer offered by Garmin.

Both MapUpdater and Lifetime Updater are history. If you trying to do update from MyGarmin you are forced to install Express if you don't have it yet. There is no other option of downloading maps, even if old version of MapUpdater still can be used for this purpose. You can probably find old updater software in Garmin archives.

-Going to myGarmin and manually looking for and doing a map update will now not use MapUpdater as in the past but will install, if needed, and use Garmin Express instead.

Yes. Express is only option.

-Garmin Express does not offer an "install to computer" option.

As far as I know there is no "Install to computer" or "device and computer" option. It will be consistent with Garmin ideology used with BaseCamp, as it is meant to use maps from connected GPS instead of installing them on computer.
If you need maps on computer use MapUpdater or Lifetime Updater.

What do you mean that Garmin Lifetime Updater is history.

I used Garmin Lifetime Updater last night to download and install 2013.40 with no issues whatsoever.

GE placed the map update back on my 765T this time and left the old 2013.30 on the SD card. No problems at all and it only took 90 min to do so.

2013.40 installed and working fine, I deleted 2013.30 from the SD card.

Garmin Express is working fine,,, it started to download the update before I connected my unit, in fact it started right after I turned on my computer after it said a new update is READY!

If you have things set right, it will alert you and download the update without the unit being attached.

Often times its not the software but "USER ERROR!"

Thanks for the heads up!

THANX ! (I think)

Got all three, DL site is kinda weird, but no problems and winzip full ver had no problem unzipping and combining.

Will try the large JCV out tomorrow

After a 4+ hour transfer from my PC to my 660, Garmin still wants me to take city streets loaded with traffic lights rather than the quicker interstate route.

Come on Garmin, the routing algorithm used to be better than this.

Did you settings change from Fastest to shortest?

Used Garmin Express with no problems from
my Dell Laptop 1440. It took about 37 minutes.

I am using mapupdater. It usually takes me 35 to 40 minutes total. I am now going on one hour and five munutes on the download. Must be a lot downloading now.

@ Strephon_Alkhalikoi - Many thanks for access to the large JCV file. I have been waiting for this before beginning to attempt download of new map.

@t923347 - Thanks for the link to the GarminMapUpdater software. Without it, I would not attempt a map download at the current time. IMHO, Garmin Express is not ready for prime time.

Somehow my MapUpdater can't remember acquiring and installing the 2013.30 to my unit and it has been driving me to ignore everything it says ... so I would have missed the upgrade if you hadn't mentioned it!

Thanks,

CC

It is interesting that this FAQ on the Garmin site still has links to both Garmin Express and GarminMapUpdater. They refer to GarminMapUpdater as "Retail Map Update" which is an identity for this program I don't recall them using before. I hope this means that Garmin intends to continue support for the GarminMapUpdater.

It has always taken under an hour for my update. There must be a lot of people on line updating. It took me 2 hours and 35 minutes...

Used MapUpdater..

When I went to update my 60CSx, GE pulled up Map Updater to handle the 60CSx.

I updated two of my units essentially at the same time.
Can you update two units with web updater with out having to d/l the maps twice? I did have a "no room" error with express but after closing it and reopening it, it used the files on my system and updated my 3790.

I'm waiting for someone (rame1012?) to post the unzipped JCV file in a dropbox location.

It's been posted by Strephon already. A 3 part file.

Got my 660 updated (US & canada only) and BaseCamp on one PC. I'm updating BaseCamp on the 2nd PC now.

I used Garmin Map Updater.

A user over on the Garmin Software forums is reporting that Garmin is again posting the Large JCV file on their site. I haven't tried it, but here is the post: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?34677-CN-NA-NT-2013... and here is the download link: http://download.garmin.com/support/2013_40/NA/JV/D3060090A.J...

I expressed a "shame on Garmin" on the last map update because they failed to do this. If they have reversed this decision, my hat's off to them for once again doing the right thing.

Edit: I decided that this probably deserves its own thread, so I started one here: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/39223. Please post your comments about the large JCV download there.

Amazing. What great news. I'm downloading now--even before doing a single map update.

My slow DSL shows about 45 minutes to download the JCV

Looks like I need to update my devices:)

That's exactly what I'm doing at this moment, 12:23 a.m. Saturday. I'm beat, but I want the large JVC file on my computer tonight so that I can download the new maps to my 1450 tomorrow. FWIW, I plan to use MapUpdater tomorrow, not Garmin Express.

Phil

Tried to install 2013.40 on my new nuvi 3590 and got a message that there was not enough space on my device and it needed to put info on SD card.....which it did.

It installed 2 folders: temp (empty) and Garmin (containing JCV folder with D3191080A.jcv, and the following files GMAPPROM.GMA, GMAPPROM.IMG (almost 2gig),Gmapprom.UNL AND GMAPPUPDATE.GSD. It looks like it put some of my system files on my SD card in view/edit mode.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?

Thinking about reverting to my backup, could anyone point me to discussion thread that would walk me through this process? Is it just a simple delete on device and paste from backup?

Thanks

Don

Use the Map Updater instead. GE seems to be having Alzheimer's.

I used Map Updater on my 1490LMT. The map went to the SD card. Then I copied the large JCV file to the Garmin/JCV folder on the card after I deleted the small one from my Nuvi. Mapsource shows 2013.40
No changes from 2013.30 to 2013.40 JCV file.

2013.40 still does not show the completed I-255 interchange with US67 near Godfrey IL.

I used MapUpdater. But that doesn't mean that it's not obsolete program (according to Garmin). Right now Express it forced as only software to update Garmin maps and GPS. There is no other program option as it was in the past. And according to theogre if you install Express it is uninstalling Lifetime Updater. So what you can expect in near future is that old program will be abandoned and Express will be the only supported software. Same story as it was with MapSource that was replaced with BaseCamp.

i ran the express to update my 2455lmt and everything went ok! not many options and went pretty smooth.took about 50 minutes start to finish

t923347, thanks for the mapupdater.exe links. One question: If using your instructions, but only installing on one PC and one GPS, do I want to leave the installation files on my PC or not leave them? I'm not sure what the installation files include. Thanks.

Lots of trouble until I more closely read this forum string. When I installed and used Garmin Express my problems went away and my installs on my 3590 and 2460 went flawlessly.