Map 2023.10 available

 
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Garmin Nuvi 2450
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Updating direct to my DS55

Updating direct to my DS55 directly from the Internet is excruciatingly slow.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Thanks

Updating now. Sucks being on a slow connection. Going to take hours. sad

There were a total of four updates for my Garmin Nuvi 2598. The other non map updates were not there when I checked a few days ago.

City Navigator North America
Version: 2023.10
File Size: 7.49 GB

Time Zone Map
Version: 28.00
File Size 582.66 KB

Roadside Assistance
Version 2.50
File Size: 8.19 KB

Proximity Text, GLX, All Languages
Version 3.80
File Size: 26.70 KB

Yes!

Finally. Thanks for the notice.

Thank you for the heads up

Installed like a breeze in my PC with WIN 10. In 44 minutes.
Thank you

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dysonsk

Nuvi 8x5

Has anyone tried to install the full CN NA 2023.10 map on a nuvi 8xx series device (using cloning of course)? I think cloning is the only remaining option on this series for full CN NA.

For me, Garmin Express is only showing the option for lower 49, even though my cloned thumb drive has plenty of free space that would accommodate the full NA map (including the corresponding large JCV file). The install for the lower 49 works of course, but gives only the puny JCV file and NO corresponding ASR for voice recognition.

I realize these 8xx series nuvi's are pretty much at EOL, especially considering that the full NA map is getting close to 4 GB. When the map exceeds 4 GB, Garmin will have to do the file split like they did with the Europe map several years ago and that may not work on some of the older devices like the 8xx series.

It is not a big deal as my nuvi 855 hasn't had a "real life" use in a couple of years. I only keep it updated for the sake of curiosity and to test that the cloning procedure still works on old devices.

Unless I figure out how to successfully install the full 2023.10 map on my 855, I will probably just retire it with the 2022.25 full NA map. It is pretty much a "collector's item" at best. It served me well as my "daily driver" for several years.

Edit: OK ... my old brain isn't what it used to be! I looked back at notes from last update and Melaqueman helped me figure out this problem ... requires back-leveling the version of garmindevice.xml on the clone to an older version. I went back to a 2018 dated file last time and that got me around the problem. I will try that again and report back.

Second Edit: I am happy to report that Melaqueman's workaround still works for installing the 2023.10 map on a nuvi 8x5 device using cloning. In order to get the full NA map instead of just the "Lower 49" you have to backlevel your version of GarminDevice.xml. The only way you can do this is if you have access to an old backup of your device. I am not sure just how far back you need to go. I used a file with a 2018 date and that worked. Using this back leveled version of garmindevice.xml, Garmin Express installed the full 2023.10 NA map files, the corresponding ASR speech recognition files, and the puny JCV file it distributes with the 8x5 series devices. I renamed the gmapprom.* files on the SD card and moved the downloaded .ASR and SRX files from the SD card to the 855's internal storage. I deleted the small JCV file and copied the large JCV file from my nuvi 755 into the 855's internal storage. Booted it up and everything is testing out OK including the junction views.

It is interesting that with the full 2023.10 files and Large JCV installed and working on my nuvi 855, Garmin Express does not recognize that the map is up to date when I plug it in. It says a map update is available and prompts me for "Payment Options". Go figure!

Well hopefully I will remember this trick from Melaqueman next time a map update comes out. Will be interesting to see if the trick will still work with 2023.20!

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Thanks

smile

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2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Delete

Delete

Thanks

Thanks!

Installed

Installed to PC and 3597. All went well, except screen brightness was dimmed afterwards to about 28%. I set it to about 85% and it is now bright enough.

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Metricman Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Thanks

Updating.................

That's too bad

phranc wrote:

Updating direct to my DS55 directly from the Internet is excruciatingly slow.

I was about to try updating my DS61 via the Internet for the first time, but after your comment I may just use the old tried-and-true USB route. Too bad.

Phil

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"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."

Map Update

I always update garmin maps, but I never see anything different on it.

direct is better

plunder wrote:
phranc wrote:

Updating direct to my DS55 directly from the Internet is excruciatingly slow.

I was about to try updating my DS61 via the Internet for the first time, but after your comment I may just use the old tried-and-true USB route. Too bad.

Phil

I have fast internet wifi and it's still better via usb.

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

All done

soberbyker wrote:
plunder wrote:
phranc wrote:

Updating direct to my DS55 directly from the Internet is excruciatingly slow.

I was about to try updating my DS61 via the Internet for the first time, but after your comment I may just use the old tried-and-true USB route. Too bad.

Phil

I have fast internet wifi and it's still better via usb.

All done. On my DS61 and using a USB port the update took 34 minutes. Like phranc said, the first 50% was excruciatingly slow, taking 28 minutes. The last 50% then took only six minutes. I haven't exactly tested anything yet, but on the unit itself the map shows being at 2023.10.

Phil

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"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."

nuvi 750

jfossy wrote:

Map City Navigator North America 2023.10 is now available.

My first GPS was a nuvi 750 which has had a battery replacement and has needed an SD card for map updates for quite a while now. I can't imagine ever needing to use the 750 again but want to see how long it can do its job.

This map update was the first time my full-size SD card, a whopping large 4GB size(!), was not sufficient to receive all of North America. I went to my stockpile of SD cards, now all the micro size, and the smallest I had was a 16GB model, which inserted into a full-size adapter to use with the 750, allowed me to update to North America. I think Garmin Express said the needed space for the map files of the nuvi 750 was 4.1GB so the old 4GB just missed having the space.

I also have an old nuvi 855 but for several updates now, I settle for updating to a Lower 49 State map. It almost didn't get updated, but for a very different reason. The 855 has a removable battery and since I only handle the 855 when there's a new map update and don't use it for navigation, I keep the battery removed when in storage. Somehow the battery was misplaced and was found only after repeatedly searching likely locations. Batteries for the 855, like the nuvi 295W and nuviPhone, haven't been available for years now.

Thanks

Somewhat less than 20 min after updating GE. Evidently there were 3 updates done. Now to see if there are any new bits or algorithms.

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Lives in Edmonton AB A volunteer driver for Drive Happiness.ca and now (since June 20 2021) uses a DS65 to find his clients.

A Groundhog Day surprise!

A Groundhog Day surprise!

nuvi 855

CraigW wrote:

I also have an old nuvi 855 but for several updates now, I settle for updating to a Lower 49 State map. It almost didn't get updated, but for a very different reason. The 855 has a removable battery and since I only handle the 855 when there's a new map update and don't use it for navigation, I keep the battery removed when in storage. Somehow the battery was misplaced and was found only after repeatedly searching likely locations. Batteries for the 855, like the nuvi 295W and nuviPhone, haven't been available for years now.

The nuvi 8xx devices can actually be run from USB power with the battery removed. Although my 855 battery still works and when charged will power the device for a while, in the past I have sometimes done the map update without having the battery installed. I do the bulk of the update process with cloning, but usually copy the large JCV and ASR files back to internal memory, then insert the cloned micro SD and reboot without having the batteries inserted. I have even navigated with it with no battery installed.

Those darned 8xx batteries haven't been available for purchase for many years now. As old is it is (12 years) I am surpried mine still holds a charge at all.

To avoid misplacing/losing my 855 battery, I have started covering the contacts with a piece of scotch tape and keeping it in the 855. That prevents it from draining in sleep mode, but keeps it where I know I can find it.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

I have pretty good luck with

wifi and updating my DS61. It always starts off by saying it's going to take 2.5 hrs. However, it's typically about 40 mins from start to finish.

Are maps starting to come more often? It feels like it - - I haven't even updated all my devices to the previous map release.

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(2) Nuvi 1450LMT + 3597LMTHD + 2557LMT + DS61LMT-S Boston MA

map update frequency

uber360 wrote:

Are maps starting to come more often? It feels like it - - I haven't even updated all my devices to the previous map release.

jgermann has answered that question for you smile : http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42417

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

50% is actually 100%, sort of

plunder wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
plunder wrote:
phranc wrote:

Updating direct to my DS55 directly from the Internet is excruciatingly slow.

I was about to try updating my DS61 via the Internet for the first time, but after your comment I may just use the old tried-and-true USB route. Too bad.

Phil

I have fast internet wifi and it's still better via usb.

All done. On my DS61 and using a USB port the update took 34 minutes. Like phranc said, the first 50% was excruciatingly slow, taking 28 minutes. The last 50% then took only six minutes. I haven't exactly tested anything yet, but on the unit itself the map shows being at 2023.10.

Phil

The reason for the dramatic speed difference between the first and last half of a map update on USB connection is the first 50% is the actual downloading-from-internet process, and the final 50% is the copying-to-device process. In other words, when GE reaches 50% complete, the download is actually done and the rest is just copying files locally.

No problems with 3x

No problems with 3x installs, though a bit of operational issue afterward... See SD Card post...

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Ummm...

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

A Groundhog Day surprise!

You do realize, of course, that Groundhog Day was yesterday, right?

Phil

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"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."

Thanks for the heads up.

Updated my DS55 and 2495LMT, holding off on the 1390T for now.

Large JCV File

Thank you, waiting for large jcv file for 2023.10

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Vijay

Just finnished...

updating the maps on our 2455LMT and 2555LMT units. Used one of our newest Windows 10 laptops. Started by updating to the latest G.E. Version (7.11.0.0) without a hitch. But, as expected, had to turn off the “Keep Express running in background” option in settings.

Attached the 2455LMT and all the maps and other updates installed in about 38 minutes.

Attached the 2555LMT and all the maps and updates installed in about 31 minutes with no problems.

Garmin continues to do a good job of file cleanup on the Nuvi’s. No old SID, JCV or SQlite files left over from previous update. Nice change.

Thanks for the post letting us know the map update was available.

Thanks for letting us

Thanks for letting us know
will update now.!!!

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

Thank you for the head's up!

A quick and easy download with no issues.

Lots of clutter on your PC (maybe)

FreddyP wrote:

Garmin continues to do a good job of file cleanup on the Nuvi’s. No old SID, JCV or SQlite files left over from previous update. Nice change.

"...on the Nuvi's" yes but Garmin still leaves lots of clutter on the PC. In the folder C:\ProgramData\Garmin\CoreService\Downloads\Map
you may find a folder named Map_Map.NA2023.10 or similar which on my PC is 7.22 GB. That can be deleted as can be any other older versions you find there as well.

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John from PA

Thanks

Thanks

PC Clutter

John from PA wrote:
FreddyP wrote:

Garmin continues to do a good job of file cleanup on the Nuvi’s. No old SID, JCV or SQlite files left over from previous update. Nice change.

"...on the Nuvi's" yes but Garmin still leaves lots of clutter on the PC. In the folder C:\ProgramData\Garmin\CoreService\Downloads\Map
you may find a folder named Map_Map.NA2023.10 or similar which on my PC is 7.22 GB. That can be deleted as can be any other older versions you find there as well.

Have only used this Windows 10 laptop for the last two updates. And, yes, there are two MAP_MAP.NAXXXX.XX folders where you said they would be. Will make a note of this and delete the oldest folder when more disk space is needed. They are about 5.5GB each on this system.

My main concern has always been recovering as much space as possible on the Nuvi unit itself. But do I like to keep all my devices as clean as possible, especially from large unused files shock

Thanks for the heads up!

Excellent!

Excellent!

Cleanup after map install

For general cleanup recommendations after a map install review the thread I started at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/50977 (Garmin, Your Mom Doesn't Work Here So Clean Up After Yourself). One guy was able to remove 150 GB (yep, giga bytes) of old stuff from various update activities.

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John from PA

Thanks so much

will download this weekend

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Nuvi 2598 LMT Nuvi 3597 LMT

Perfect, thanks!

Perfect, thanks!

Drive Smart 55

Updated via WiFi…30 minutes no problems

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"You can't get there from here"

Always love new maps

Even if I never notice any changes.

Thank You

Thank you for letting us know abut the update.

Alan: I can comment that the

Alan: I can comment that the map renaming trick
"supp" on SD Card with Garmin Directory and HTML serial info, still works with reduced coverage on a Nuvi 660... (And it still works being powered off USB connector, too! (Back Connection to power and FM Receiver died years ago!)

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Thank you for letting us

Thank you for letting us know.

YES, finally coming

YES, finally coming

Oh Well

I had a GPSMAP 64s with LifeTIme CN maps. Back then, mapping was allowed to be installed on the computer, and the GPS can be maintained. Actually, a download was required to go to the computer first, and then the device gets loaded with maps.

Jump forward... I just bought a GPSMAP 66sr. Maps are no longer lifetime. Good thing I got this just a day or so after 2023.1 came out so I got the freshest mapping. Also, maps are no longer allowed to be resident on the computer anymore, and GPS map loading and maintenance require the GPSr to be attached to the computer for direct connections. Also, in order to use BaseCamp on the computer, the GPSr must be connected to the computer to use the mapping since mapping is no longer allowed to reside on the computer.

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When you are dead, you don’t know that you are dead. It is only difficult for the others. It is the same when you are stupid.

For GPSMAP 66sr, might be better maps

diesel wrote:

Jump forward... I just bought a GPSMAP 66sr. Maps are no longer lifetime. Good thing I got this just a day or so after 2023.1 came out so I got the freshest mapping. Also, maps are no longer allowed to be resident on the computer anymore, and GPS map loading and maintenance require the GPSr to be attached to the computer for direct connections. Also, in order to use BaseCamp on the computer, the GPSr must be connected to the computer to use the mapping since mapping is no longer allowed to reside on the computer.

Review this as there might be better map alternatives as far as maps, https://hikingguy.com/hiking-gear/how-to-get-free-garmin-gps...

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John from PA

New Maps 2023.10

Thanks for the heads up.

Nice.

Nice.

I need to fire up my most modern GPS Nuvi 1350 and get the map update. Yea it's pretty old but my wife uses it in her car. I just usually use Google Maps on my phone these days.

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eTrex Touch 35, Nuvi 1350LMT, Nuvi 350, Nuvi 260, Garmin GPS III, Basecamp

I'm so excited I can hardly

I'm so excited I can hardly contain myself!

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an94

I Do Indeed

plunder wrote:
mcginkleschmidt wrote:

A Groundhog Day surprise!

You do realize, of course, that Groundhog Day was yesterday, right?

Phil

I do indeed but the map release came on February 2 which, according to my calendar, made the map update a Groundhog Day surprise. idea

thanks

Can't wait to download.

updated

Updated all three GPS devices. Immediately headed out on a road trip. Was disappointed that a new road I have been using was not in this updated - maybe it will make the June update.

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updated

Updated the units with no problems

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