Upset, 'lifetime' is not even 2 years

 

Received email from TomTom, several of my GPS bought with 'lifetime maps' are no longer supported for map updates
1 GB is not enough memory
except the map for
NZ, is 88MB
Australia. is 396MB

Yea ok the Canada US Mexico map is getting large, but none of the other countries are

and the models 'no longer supported' for lifetime maps, are still being sold in the countries 'no longer supported' I bought the last one for another vehicle December 2016

If buy the latest and greatest, I get whole world maps
big whoop, I've been to most places and don't want to go back

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If only ..

What about SD card

Garmins will automatically load maps to the SD Card when internal memory is full. I would expect the same with Tom Tom.

Have you looked at deleting unnecessary voices and vehicles to increase available memory?

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NUVI2555LMT, NUVI350

the same letter

I received the same letter for a 1605 with a discount for the newer moder, I have some Garmins so if TomTom thinks this will get me to up grade they should think again.

TT vs Garmin

Way back in 2002 when I became interested in aquiring a GPS for my car, it did not take me long to see that TT did not cover Mexico at all. Just a very rudimentary major highways coverage.
At that time Garmin did not cover Mexico either, but a very good third party Mexico made map was available.

My daughter has an older TT in addition to the Garmin I gave her. Maybe my years of Garmins have spoiled me but I find her TT difficult to manipulate.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, 3790LMT passed on to my daughter. Using Windows 10. DashCam with GPS.

New

I must have gone through 7 Garmins by now. They all bit the biscuit for one reason or another. Usb port, heat issues from Sun sitting on the dash. Fm transmitter cable over the heating vent in car and traffic then not working not worth buying new traffic Cable..and other stuff. Every time i look for a new one i look carefully at TT to see what they have come out with. Takes me about 10 minutes and i go and order a Garmin. I've played with them.....a friend has one. There's just no comparison. Btw He has to get another one because he cannot upgrade the Map anymore. Sound familiar? lol

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nüvi®3580LMT,nüvi®2598LMT| We do not live in Igloo's, and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Memory is cheap

As cheap as storage memory is these days, I don't know why the manufacturers don't provide more from the get go. Cheapskates

not all of them

GPSgeek wrote:

Garmins will automatically load maps to the SD Card when internal memory is full. I would expect the same with Tom Tom.

Have you looked at deleting unnecessary voices and vehicles to increase available memory?

Garmin Express doesn't see the SD cards in my Zumos, 450 & 550.

It will allow me to load a portion on the 450 then I use Map Install to put the rest on the SD card, my 550 won't load anything I have to do a full install from Map Source onto the card.

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. Nuvi 2689, two Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N, Garmin, built into my Jeep. .

Yup, lifetime map updates do

Yup, lifetime map updates do a lotta good if GPS doesn't have enough memory!

Exactly what happened to my TomTom and why I changed to Garmin and never looked back!

The End

Lifetime: nothing lasts forever.

I replaced an older GPS with a newer model, same manufacturer, and the old maps were not compatible on the new device. I had to get new maps for the new device to get the best experience the new hardware had to offer. That's progress.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone 6 w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Map Updates

When updating my Garmin 2797 and 3597 i first do a backup then delete the big Gmapprom.img file which frees up a lot of space. Somebody here posted this a few years ago but later i was told you didn't have to remove it. On mine i still got the not enough memory error before removing it so i went back to removing it

Strange?

With my ancient 855 I have to use the cloning method. No way does GE recognize an installed SD card.
As for my 2797 I have not had a problem yet to install a map update.
Is it possible different production or earlier runs had smaller installed memory.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, 3790LMT passed on to my daughter. Using Windows 10. DashCam with GPS.

I run nothing but Garmin

I run nothing but Garmin too. I find that the TT my wife has is a lot more difficult to use too.

worse

worse than I thought, they just turned off updating, regardless of whether it fits or not
even for the Australia map, that fits three times; and the NZ map that fits 50 times

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If only ..

Define "lifetime"

almostbob wrote:

Received email from TomTom, several of my GPS bought with 'lifetime maps' are no longer supported for map updates

I feel your pain. Define "lifetime." Whose lifetime are we talking about. About 20 years ago I had lifetime gutters installed on my house. Thirteen years later I had a small leak at one of the seams and called the local company (who was merely a franchisee) that had installed the gutters way back when. The guy seemed genuinely shocked when I told him why I was calling. He blithely informed me that he had gotten out of the gutter business about eight years earlier and that he couldn't help me. If memory serves, it took him about 15 minutes to find the gutter manufacturer's telephone number. I called the number and left two or three messages for them to call me back but they never did. Oh, well.
I guess "lifetime" is whatever the seller wants it to be.

Phil

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Phil in Mentor, Ohio -- Garmin Nuvi 1450

lifetime v. product line

With current technology changes "Lifetime" often means "life of product line + eventually few years more". For practical reason it will be impossible for manufacturer to keep updates, parts productions and service for old products. Unless you will pay premium for this. If you want to know how much it costs just look into military stuff. They still use computers that nobody had been using for at least 30 years. But cost to keep them running is higher then buying brand new, future packed desktop or laptop. And that's the premium you have to pay for lifetime service for obsolete devices.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36385839

The US nuclear weapons force still uses a 1970s-era computer system and 8-inch floppy disks, a government report has revealed
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The report said taxpayers spent $61bn (£41bn) a year on maintaining ageing technologies. It said that was three times more than the investment on modern IT systems

Backwards Compatible

When considering tech products, one must consider what it takes to maintain backwards compatibility. There is only so much that a new product should need to do to keep old peripherals and software relevant. Things just go obsolete.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone 6 w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

almostbob wrote: Received

almostbob wrote:

Received email from TomTom, several of my GPS bought with 'lifetime maps' are no longer supported for map updates
1 GB is not enough memory
except the map for
NZ, is 88MB
Australia. is 396MB

Yea ok the Canada US Mexico map is getting large, but none of the other countries are

and the models 'no longer supported' for lifetime maps, are still being sold in the countries 'no longer supported' I bought the last one for another vehicle December 2016

If buy the latest and greatest, I get whole world maps
big whoop, I've been to most places and don't want to go back

They are still selling the devices, exact same spec, with lifetime updates

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If only ..

Not Mine

GPSgeek wrote:

Garmins will automatically load maps to the SD Card when internal memory is full. I would expect the same with Tom Tom.

What device are you dealing with?

I have a GPSMAP 64S, and when I load maps, I have to load the device memory and card separately. There is no automatic loading as you mention. I have to decide what maps to put where and do it manually. When I fire up MapInstall, I get a message saying all maps will not fit, I then have to go through the load process twice, once for the device and then for the card.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone 6 w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Have you tried using Garmin

Have you tried using Garmin Express to load the maps? GE should split the maps.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267

Not Mine

phranc wrote:

Have you tried using Garmin Express to load the maps? GE should split the maps.

No, I use GE to DL the updated maps to my computer, then I use MapInstall to put the maps on the GPSMAP64S.

And I have many other maps than just City Navigator that GE has nothing to do with.

When I try the GE route to install City Navigator, it responds with the following:

* Installation may take a few minutes
* The map update cannot be directly installed on your device. It will be downloaded to your computer.
* Use Garmin BaseCamp to view maps and plan your trips.
* Use Garmin MapInstall (included with Garmin BaseCamp) to transfer the maps to your device.
* Installing files on the computer may take significant amount of hard drive space.

So it looks to me that GE will not load directly to my device. Even if it did, I don't see how it could know what other maps I want to load from my computer. And then when you consider the option to select what tiles to load, it gets even more complicated.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone 6 w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.