CN North America 2014.30 Available For Download

Putting the map on an SD card, your 660 will still read the Full North America Map.

2014.30 is 2,072,864kb = 1.97684 GB
This will definitely be the last update the 660 can recognize.

Has anyone looked at the file size? Just wondering how much fat Garmin has added this time. lol

That's pretty big... even with very high speed internet service, it is taking a long time.

Did you install the whole NA file? Is the size over 2GB? If so, I'm confused. I thought there were discussions that there is a 2GB file size limit!?!

My 765T shows a new map available. Unfortunately, I am away from home on vacation using the GPS so I will not be updating as any problems would render it useless until I got home.

I should note that on this 500 mile one-way road trip (Long Island to Toronto through central New York), there was nothing I came across that was not on my maps. As I do this trip once or twice a year, I have reported many corrections and they are all implemented. There have been no new road deviations on my trip along I-86 since most of the major rerouting work has been completed (Parksville, NY being the last major rerouting). So I can sit back and wait on this one.

To end your confusion, there is a 2GB MAP file size limit on the 660, but the new full North America map is just under that at 1.97684 GB.

I responded to your other post, read the second post from the top on this page (2).

hehehe...

So, then the figure below is incorrect? Or are the map files different between the 2 models?

I thought the day would never come.

On my nuvi 2460, I see the same KB results you mention above for the new map: 2,072,864 KB (1.97 GB or 2,122,612,736 bytes). These values are the same for the map file on my nuvi 855 and 750. I also agree that my nuvis have the same file size you mention for the previous map version.

As stated the NUVI is displaying Kilobytes when you view it in Windows Explorer, if you convert Kilobytes to Gigabytes it is just under the 2GB limit.

Trust me, put the full map on the SD card and your 660 will recognize it.

Yesterday I tried to download the latest maps. The program failed. I called Garmin, they told me to install the new express. Now it works,

I'll check sizes of the 3 files later tonight...

It saw my lifetime map update, downloaded the 3 files to the SD card.

After it was done, changed the naming on the 3 files, and swapped memory cards in the 660 (I made the decision to alternate between two cards, so I always have the last version available to go to)

On Power up, it saw the new maps, (Green Line after Finding Maps) and it ran...

I installed the latest version of Garmin Express, had no problems installing the map on a 2350LMT.

Ditto

Thanks for the info!

2014.3 Updated on Garmin device using MapUpdater v3.2.2 on a Windows 7 PC.

Downloading took: 2 minutes 15 seconds
Preparing Maps took: 15 seconds
Installing Maps took: 66 minutes

All worked like a charm!

PS - I never want to see Garmin Express ever again...

What sort of a internet connection do you have that can download a 2+GB file in 2 minutes?

According to this calculator (http://www.numion.com/calculators/time.html), with zero overhead, he would need to sustain somewhere between 100 Mbps and 155 Mbps.

In my working days, we had a 500 Mbps connection, but even with that it was hard to get 100 Mbps throughput on any given session. Usually there is at least one slow link on the trace route and most servers throttle the output on a single session. I am surprised that the Garmin servers would give this much to a single session.

That said, it did seem to me that the Garmin servers were much more responsive for this download than they have been in the recent past.

I use Verizon FiOS 75/35

Tested (just now) at:
84.15 Mbps Download Speed
36.72 Mbps Upload Speed
9 ms Latency

Wonderful service!

You say that 2014.30 is 2+GB in size. At my [just tested] download speed of 84.15Mbps 2GB would take 3:24 to download. I suspect the explanation for the quick 2:15 download speed is either the file size for my particular devive is smaller than 2GB or my speed ramped-up to 130Mbps (the speed needed to D/L 2GB in 2:12) while downloading. I don't know which is more likely...but I suspect the file size that I downloaded for my particular Garmin device was more like 1.3GB rather than 2GB. I doubt seriously my download speed ramped-up to 130Mbps.

When I connected my Nuvi 255 to MapUpdater it said that it would be downloading the 'Lower 48 States'. Maybe the 'Lower 48 States' is a smaller file than what is downloaded (by MapUpdater) to newer, more robust, full-featured Garmin devices that use additional features that my device does not use. I'm guessing that MapUpdater is able to assess by which Garmin GPS model (is connected to MapUpdater) what portion of the 2014.30 map update will actually be downloaded for the particular device. If I'm correct, my older Nuvi 255 with less features may only download say 1.3GB whereas a newer, full-feature Garmin model may require the full 2+GB to be downloaded.

PS - Downloading actually took only 2 minutes 12 seconds, but I rounded it up to 2 minutes 15 seconds.

Thanks I am hooking up my device now and will be d/l right now.

downloading now...thanks.

To eliminate ALL confusion, 2GB = 2,097,152KB. 2014.30 is shy of the 2GB limit by 24,288KB and will therefore install on all devices in one piece. 2014.40 will require users hitting the FAT file limit to split the map between internal and external storage to have the entire map installed.

Wow, all that stuff that Verizon spews at you on TV just may be true!

I would think your speed test looks OK. If you were updating an older model Nuvi without a few hundred MB's of JCV files and not getting all of North America, etc. your probably well under the 2+GB file that I downloaded.

That's what I think also (as noted in my previous post). I'm guessing I downloaded ~1.3GB for my particular device, which at my [tested] speed of 84.15Mbps would take 2:12.

And...Verizon FiOS is fabulous!

Download and install for 2014.30 was quick and easy using MapUpdater.

After installing new map and large JCV file (786 MB), There is not much free space left on my Nuvi 3760. “Properties” for my nominal 4GB Nuvi 3760 shows:

Capacity.......3.58 GB - (3,849,142,272 bytes)
Used Space..3.38 GB – (3,638,104,064 bytes)
Free Space...201 MB – (211,038,208 bytes)

Was your download all of North America (U.S., Canada & Mexico) or something less, such as just the lower 48 states? I'm assuming MapUpdater saw that your particular device could hold the full-fledged version of 2014.30.

OOPS. Disregard

Updated a 1490 and a 260 using the Garmin Express with no issues.

It did remove the old map in both cases so I suggest you do a full backup first.

My download was of All of North America. MapUpdater offered the full download.

I used Garmin Express had no problem downloading the map. Took about 1 hour total.

Thanks for the reply. I think that explains (in a few prior posts) why I was able to download [what I needed] so quickly. The reason being is that MapUpdater saw that my older device would not hold the entire North American maps, so it offered only the 'Lower 48 States' and no JCV files. That reduced the file size from around 2GB a sizable amount and allowed me to download it in 2:15 with 75+Mbps D/L speed.

.30 is still not showing some updates to some US highways in No. KY. Hopefully, they'll show in the next update.

2014.30 fixed the error of a dead end street being shown as a route-able frontage road.

Been there ... done that ... thanks to your heads up, muell9k

Installed on both my units and computer, no problem.

MapUpdater would not work at all with my 3 different units - downloaded it 3 times , just kept on getting an error message and then it would shut down!
downloaded latest version of Express and it updated my 260 & 1490 with no problems .
Halfway thru updating my 2595 lost internet service for a couple hours - wouldn't restart.
Started from scratch - said it downloaded OK but only had base map .
Removed old files from unit & SD card and downloaded directly to SD card - somehow configuration on SD card was screwed up ! set it up like SD card on 1490 and it's fine now !
The Happy Camper rides again !

Started with Garmin Express and after updating Jane voice and a couple other things then I saw basically no action so I went looking for map updater, found it in my Application folder. Clicked on it and it said it was already downloading but then mapupdater wanted to update itself so I let it. Meanwhile it is actually slowly updating the map. It's about half done in two hours. I hope it continues. I seem to have no luck with Garmin Express.

Garmin Express d/l'ed the maps in 45 minutes. All is Good. My 3597 is working well.

I'm thinking the Comcast speed increase isn't why your map update went more quickly. At 5, 10, 15 and up Mbps download speeds, these files should download FAST! As in a minute or two. These map updates are just a GB or two. I get Microsoft updates that are 10 times larger than this in a matter of a few minutes (worst case).

Again no issues with download using Express, had both units plugged in and updated both at the same time, saved to hard drive also. I'll erase that..just wanted to see if it would have a hick-up.

Urm... No.
lest we forget, the lower case "b" in Mbps is "bits", not "bytes". So a little arithmetic says that for a hypothetical total download of 2 Gigabytes by the 1024*1024*1024 definition of Gigabyte the indicated download times are
Rate Time
5 57.27 minutes
10 28.63
15 19.08

A full North America map update for my 3790LMT, including Junction View file and other ancillaries is, I believe rather more than 2 Gigabytes. Also various overhead issues mean a nominal 5 Mbps connection never delivers the nameplate rate of actual throughput (it is a symbol rate, so takes credit for overhead, of even the most inevitable sort).

I'm genuinely curious what it is that you are downloading from Microsoft that gives updates of 10s of Gigabyte in size? The OS and Office updates are nowhere near that big.

Used the "clone" method and MapUpdater (3.2.2) to download and install map update to SD card. No errors to report.

Took about 1 hour total.

Sweet. Gotta wait until midnight to get around the bandwidth monthly limit. Cant wait.

Owning a 2460LMT it comes with Voice Command and has the Full Noerth America Map (includes Mexico).

I originally installed the new map(2014.30) to the Nuvi using Mapupdater without problems.

As an experiment I decided to use the Clone method on a newly formatted Fat32 SD card. This time I selected to download only the Lower 49 States using Mapupdater.

I received a message saying my unit has Voice Command and with the lower 49 state selection the voice command WILL NOT be available. It further stated if I wanted voice command to either select Full North America or U.S. & Canada.

Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Update: I decided to download the US & Canada only map. What I discovered was the JCV file remained the same, however the ASR files were a bit smaller than the full map.

So I suppose it does make sense, Garmin decided not to provide 3 sets Voice Command files (ASR files) since the 2460 has 8GB space which is more than sufficient to handle the full maps.

Thanks

Don't see anywhere for 2014.30

I installed the new map with Map Updater 3.2.2 without a problem. My 765t now shows 2014.20 and below that 2014.30 3D on Map info. Also I don't see any Junction Views when simulating a rout in Toronto ON. I downloaded the full file from here and nothing changed.

@HerbSch: Hook your nuvi up to the computer and check the .img files in the \Garmin folder, specifically gmapprom.img (and gmapsupp.img if it exists). Check the file dates and sizes. Also check to see how much free space you have on your nuvi. It is possible you are out of space and the new map did not succesfully complete the installation.

There are no img files in the folder. The nuvi has only 790 MB free space and the 2G memory card only 162 MB. I guess I will have to get a 4G card.
Thank you for your reply.