Confused about waypoint alerts (different alert for each location?)

 

I've read until my eyes are crossed and still don't know if it's possible to set a different mp3 alert for each waypoint in a csv or gpx file. I'm trying to create a list of POIs so that when a newspaper carrier approaches the coordinates (of an address) my MP3 capable Garmin (295w) alerts and says, for example, "You've reached 113 Terrier Way" Is this possible? How do you associate the mp3 with a particular POI?
newbie Ken

POI

They would be Points of Interest and each one would have to be in it's own file. Each file and each audio file would have to have the exact same title to work. So if you have 200 paper boxes then you would have to create 200 POI files and 200 audio files.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Good idea for a TourGuide

You may already have a file called XXTourGuide.gpx. Create your mp3 sounds in a file on your pc.
Load your gpx file into EPE.
Click on your first location to open the edit function. Just below the Proximity window is a link. Point the link to the corresponding mp3.
My example is:
C:\Users\bb\Desktop\gpsstuff\wave
files\MilleMarkers\1.wav
OK Save:
This is MileMarker #1 on Highway 1.
My file calls out the mile markers all the way to Florida City.
Caution: You may need to break up your file into sub-files of 32 locations.

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1490LMT 1450LMT 295w

Should Do It Automatically

kenm875 wrote:

I'm trying to create a list of POIs so that when a newspaper carrier approaches the coordinates (of an address) my MP3 capable Garmin (295w) alerts and says, for example, "You've reached 113 Terrier Way" Is this possible? How do you associate the mp3 with a particular POI?
newbie Ken

If you create a Custom POI file and Name it with the address, the GPS will generally say things like "Arriving at 113 Terrier Way on the Left". This should not require a separate MP3 or wav file. Most Garmins play wav files.

There is one caution. The determination of the actual location in either the GPS or any mapping programs is based on an algorithm that calculates the location based on the first and last house numbers on a street. This is not always accurate especially in the country. The best is to use Extra POI Editor to create and then drag the marker to the correct location, assuming you know exactly which house is the right one. In the City, it's probably pretty close, but people may still have to read the house number or the fire number in the country.

Also, you can have separate Icons, for each location, but POI Loader limits this to a total of 50, and I would suspect that something similar would apply to voice files, if you can load separate files.

If you use a GPX file to save the POIs, you could the person's name in the description.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

So if i understand

So if i understand correctly, you're suggesting the same thing as phrank—create a POI for each location—except forget the mp3... name the POI the same thing as the address and let the receiver announce based on the name? And to ensure accuracy, edit coordinates as necessary?
This would get around a possible limit on the number of individual mp3 files, right?

ONE File, Many POI Locations

kenm875 wrote:

So if i understand correctly, you're suggesting the same thing as phrank—create a POI for each location—except forget the mp3... name the POI the same thing as the address and let the receiver announce based on the name? And to ensure accuracy, edit coordinates as necessary?
This would get around a possible limit on the number of individual mp3 files, right?

I think we're on the same page, but just to be sure. Create a POI file, for example Southside Newspapers and then you would have many different POI Locations, such as 113 Terrier Way, 157 Terrier Way, etc.

I see you are a member of this community for only a few hours and we welcome you. Check out the Learn Tab at the top right corner and find some topics that would be of interest.

I would also suggest that you consider downloading Extra POI Editor. It can be found at: http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor#Extra_POI_Ed...

It will make your life much easier when it comes to creating the POI Files. There are numerous discussions about EPE so that will help you.

If you have a number of POI Files of various topics, you might also want to investigate the creation of POI subdirectories on your SD drive to simplify the sorting of files and easier maintenance. If you need help, just shout like you've already done. There are No Stupid Questions, unless you ask the same question over and over again. smile

Hope this helps.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

@kenm875, Welcome

Welcome to the site.

Before getting too deeply into a problem posted by someone new to the site (in your case a "paper route alert" problem), we usually recommend the following.

There is a "Learn" button in the upper right of this page next to "red light cameras" that takes you to a Getting Started page. It is worthwhile visiting this page.

To make navigation easy, most browsers provide the following option. When you want to follow a link - but still keep your current page open - you can hold down the "Ctrl" key as you left-click on a link. That action will open a new "Tab" in your browser up on the "Tab" bar. When you then left-click on that new "Tab", you will follow the link - leaving the "Tab" you are now reading open and available to click on and return here.

So, using the "Learn" link, you might try the "Ctrl" - left-click sequence and then return here. You can return by either "X-ing" out of the "Getting Started" page (using the "X" on the "Tab" itself) or just left-clicking on the "Tab" for the page you are on right now.

Since you are new here, I encourage you to go through a couple of the Tutorials.

The first link makes sure the settings on your computer are such that you can do more advanced POI loading.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30393 You sound as if your settings are already correct, but you may need to get a manual.

The next link helps you make a backup of your GPS by attaching it to your computer. (NEVER do anything to your GPS until you have a backup).
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30394

I kind of like spokybob's approach

spokybob wrote:

You may already have a file called XXTourGuide.gpx. Create your mp3 sounds in a file on your pc.
Load your gpx file into EPE.
Click on your first location to open the edit function. Just below the Proximity window is a link. Point the link to the corresponding mp3.
My example is:
C:\Users\bb\Desktop\gpsstuff\wave
files\MilleMarkers\1.wav
OK Save:
This is MileMarker #1 on Highway 1.
My file calls out the mile markers all the way to Florida City.
Caution: You may need to break up your file into sub-files of 32 locations.

There is a site that can help make sound files. You can find it at
http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

Since these are .wav files, you could add sox.exe to the folder where POI Loader resides or change them to .mp3 files.
Look here
Getting voice alerts on units without mp3 capability {G}

Actually, I hope you will try the TourGuide approach by starting with, say, 10 locations and seeing how you like it. See How do I set up a TourGuide? {G}

You will need info on Extra POI Editor (EPE)
see Downloading and Installing EPE {G}
Configuring EPE {G}
Building alert distances in GPX files using EPE {G}

You can "simulate" the route from your armchair by going to
Learn to do Simulation (Garmin) {G}

One problem I see looming may be the fact that the alert distance of TourGuide files is "radial" meaning that the alert for a location will activate when your vehicle comes within the set radius. In neighborhoods, this might require you to make sure that the radius does not include more than one house.

followup

Thanks for your help. I had perused the tutorials but still had these questions, possibly because the GPS unit i've ordered hasn't actually arrived to begin trial and error. But I will sit down with this info and give it a go.

Regarding the radial alerts, i've already encountered this in an attempt to do something similar with an iPad and an app. But it's not really a problem because the alert states the address and simply lets the carrier know he/she is in the area of an address. It's more of a reminder.

I do have one other question. As a Mac user, can i simply transfer the .exe file? I don't need to run the program, right? It's for the GPS unit to run?

Thanks to all for your help!

Mac

No, your GPS doesn't run any of these programs. You need to run them on your computer. EPE will not run on Mac and there is no port. If you are using an emulator you can run Windows in a Virtual Machine. There are Mac versions of Map Updater and POI loader for you use, also.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

...and...

phranc wrote:

No, your GPS doesn't run any of these programs. You need to run them on your computer. EPE will not run on Mac and there is no port. If you are using an emulator you can run Windows in a Virtual Machine. There are Mac versions of Map Updater and POI loader for you use, also.

...and sox.exe is not needed when using a Mac to get wav audio files loaded with Custom POIs. Sox is also not needed for Macs or PCs when loading mp3 audio to the older Garmin GPS models that can play mp3.

what you are asking

kenm875 wrote:

I've read until my eyes are crossed and still don't know if it's possible to set a different mp3 alert for each waypoint in a csv or gpx file. I'm trying to create a list of POIs so that when a newspaper carrier approaches the coordinates (of an address) my MP3 capable Garmin (295w) alerts and says, for example, "You've reached 113 Terrier Way" Is this possible? How do you associate the mp3 with a particular POI?
newbie Ken

What you are asking is possible using a GPX file on a Garmin unit. You will need to have your unique alerts ready in separate files and you can associate the alerts to each stop. My suggestion would be something short such as just the house number and a clue such as daily or Sunday.

I remember from my days of having a paper route that it only took me a couple of days to learn the doors where I was to drop papers. The route book wasn't in the order I delivered, but in street and address in case my manager had to cover the route.

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actually...

what i'm trying to do is provide the carriers with alarms at places NOT to deliver. Everyone else gets it. So out of 10,000 addresses, that's currently 64 POIs.
Thanks!

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Just suggestion. Take the 64 Pois and in the name column include don't deliver with the name or something similar. The GPS alerts the arrival message based on the name in the 3rd column of the csv file. Just keep it short. This will keep it simple without extra work. Set up your csv file so the no delivery stay at bottom of file together. That way paste and copy in one swoop.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.