IOS 6 NAV: too many mistakes to be a legit product at this point in time

http://gpstracklog.com/2012/09/apple-ios-6-maps-complaints-w...

Once upon a time, Google's mapping and navigation sucked too.

I have Navigon for my iPhone & iPad... and Navigon got an app & map update today.

I used the maps app yesterday and while I noticed the POI's were pretty up to date where I was travelling, the roads were far from being up to date. Roads that have been there for 3 years were not on the map. So unfortunately, it looks the maps app as of now will not be replacing my 765t. I actually wish Apple would have used Navteq instead of TomTom's maps because even though we all complain about how long it takes for Navteq to add new roads to the maps, at least they aren't this out of date. Sure, the maps app is still usable for short distances, but I would never use it to travel more than 20 miles.

This is the difference between involvement and committment in business--

Apple is involved with maps.

Garmin is committed.

...This comes from and old saw about a bacon and egg breakfast...

The chicken is involved.

The pig is committed!

(and I'll stick to my Nuvi for a while yet, even though I like a lot about iOS 6 -- particularly the "Do Not Disturb" feature.)

Cheers--

Well put.

Well put k6rtm.
There are several nice features in IOS 6 but the maps need improvements quickly. Hopefully apple will update the maps soon.
As written by another member; Apple should have used Navteq NOT tomtom's maps

Glad to see that Apple is being held to such high standards of performance. Not too many companies have earned that honor!

Knowing that it is an initial release, it is about as good as most other initial releases. I have played with it a bit and it seems to be useable. I'll test it on a trip this Saturday and give it a good work out. I've got an 8 hr, 370 mile round trip, so that should reveal anomalies. I have a RAM mount to set it up like a real GPS.

Here is my temporary fix until Apple updates their maps:

Point your Safari browser to maps.google.com and click the export button in the middle of the menu bar to save the app to your homescreen.
Once installed, you'll now see "Google Maps" on your homescreen complete with its own appropriately designed app icon.

When you have Navigon... justsayin'.

I have been using the Garmin App lately and it is growing on me.

Is this the result of innovation and/or invention?

For everyone not interested in running the Map application on the iOS6 update, here is an option listed in today's version of AppAdvice.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/09/garmin-releases-update-fo...

Looks like a pretty good discount if you cannot live with Apple's attempt to provide navigation, or stick with your current GPS.

Updated my 4S last night and tried the Maps GPS today. It was ok but missing features like ETA. Apple is already working on improvements. It can only get better.

ETA is in the top banner of the app. While navigating, tap the screen once and you'll see the ETA,

Is Garmin the same as Navigon? The site shows something that I would want in a GPS picture. Why doesn't Garmin have this, or is this Garmin. What about lifetime updates? A good discount but most people getting the new iphone 5 are on a waiting list many weeks out. Too much info.
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CNET field test comparing Apple Maps to Google Maps.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57517420-233/turn-by-tu...

Good information. I haven't upgraded my 4s to iOS 6 yet, so this is a useful and timely thread.

Noting that a new operating system to iPhones, known as iOS 6, was displaying distorted images of the heavily traveled bridges, as well as other bridges and highway structures, @WSDOT sent the following tweet:

“Although #ios6 may say differently, we can assure you that the Tacoma Narrows Bridges have not melted: http://bit.ly/NF6ccQ.”

After seeing the image, WSDOT sent the tweet to reassure drivers that the bridges were, indeed, still standing.

http://kbkw.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4598

Wouldn't want to hear of that bridge failing yet again!!!

I am not having any problems at all. Of course I should mention I decided NOT to upgrade from iOS 5! Having followed the developer forums on iOS 6 since it was announced in June, I was less than enthusiastic about the upgrade and seeing all the complaints since the official release I am glad I made the right decision. When the standalone Google Maps app finally hits the iTunes store, I expect I will be upgrading.

I'm curious. Since Apple used TomTom maps, why the poor performance? I have never used a Tom Tom unit but haven't really heard anything about them being that bad. Still I'm staying with my Nuvi and IOS 5 until they sort this out which I'm sure they will.

You know of course if you upgrade to IOS 6 there's nothing saying you have to use Apples Map. Upgrade, use the mapping you previously used and when Apple gets the problems fixed update Map app.

THere is far more to iOS6 than the new mapping feature. Do not let that deter you from updating to iOS 6. iOS 6 is an advancement from iOS 5 and I am glad I did it.

state iOS6 is more an incremental upgrade.

According to TomTom:

Full article here:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/tomtom-more-willing-help-apple-fix-...

Don't let the mapping blip deter you from upgrading there are many features that make the phone better.

Reviews written by Android fanbois say that.

I would sticking with google maps till the bugs are worked out.

I'm glad I skip it for now. Stick with Google Map on 5.1.1

I like the upgrade so far but the maps are lets say different at this stage.

It doesn't have the same feel that was originally in ios5, that is of google maps.

Agree with you wholeheartedly

Quite true and you lose StreetView. The one feature in iOS 6 that I really want is "Do Not Disturb" but I prefer Google Maps even more. It is rumored Google has submitted (or is about to) and a standalone app. Once that is released I will make the jump on my iPhone. The iPad 2 is holding on to 5.1.1 until a native iPad YouTube app appears. Right now there is only an iPhone version and it looks terrible blown up.

One can use Safari and do YouTube on an iPad and it works fine... no app needed.

Maybe I'm lucky, but Apple Maps worked fine for me today.

This was a 3.5 hour trip, one that I have done many times before, and the iOS 6 Apple Maps did okay without anomalies. Did the trip in both directions. The trip has all sorts of roads, highways, back roads, etc.

Where did you hear that? This article says the opposite:

Google Inc has made no move to provide Google Maps for the iPhone 5 after Apple Inc dropped the application in favor of a home-grown but controversial alternative, Google's Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/25/us-google-iphone-i...

There was a persistent rumor from the day the iOS6 'Gold Master' hit the streets that Google had a standalone maps app in the pipeline for Apple to approve... so it turns out the rumor was not true. B F D. There are apps far better than Google Maps ever was on an iPhone or iPad. I couldn't care less if Google does an iOS app. I will never use it. I have Navigon. No use for Google Maps.

You have proof that Google never developed an iOS app or are you discounting anything anyone says against Apple?

It's very possible Google did develop the app and decided not to release it for many different reasons. One of which could be the possibility that Apple wouldn't distribute it through iTunes as it would directly compete with their nascent product. But then we can all pontificate without any solid information that would either prove or disprove our statement.

The Apple Maps will be up to par with what Google Maps was in no time. If you want, there is Navigon and the Garmin App, both are pretty good. Not free, but pretty good and available now.

That makes perfect sense.

There were rumors. Evidence presented above indicates the rumors to be false. Period. I NEVER made, nor am I making any claim an app exists, or existed and was pulled. Beyond that, I DON"T GIVE A CRAP. Google's prior maps on iOS SUCKED. That's why I have Navigon. And as I said above, I will never use a future Google app as I have one that meets my needs in Navigon.

Before we kill the Apple mapping app; I've used it a couple times and so far it works.

I did a search on my NUVI 3490 and it couldn't find the POI so I took out my iphone 5 and the POI was found because of the online database vs the Nuvi having a set number of POI's on the hard drive. The directions on the Iphone were dead on. For now I like that it is FREE and it has spoken turn-by-turn with spoken street names. I'm sure it will get better but time will tell.

App.Advice.com just posted this article about Garmin and another option for disappointed users of Apple's New Maps.

I am not weighing in on the discussion, just providing a link so people can decide what they feel is best for them.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/09/garmin-looks-to-provide-a...

Read the last paragraph about Google Maps and non-native versions.

I think it's a good start, I did not think it would be perfect right off the bat and I'm sure they will work to make it better.

Thanks, rame1012. I see that now.

Turns out that Google IS actually developing another maps app for Iphones and Ipads, it just might take a while before we see it. Read here: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-working-maps-iphone-ipa...

It will be irrelevant by the time it comes out... people will have found an app that meets their needs... if not Apple's, another one.

App Advice today:

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/09/the-best-turn-by-turn-app...

Cool... I can put Google Maps back on iOS 6. It'll be interesting to see if Apple would approve the apps in their apps store.

Here is a link to an eWeek article discussing some of the shortcomings of the iPhone 5 in addition to the mapping issue:

http://www.eweek.com/mobile/slideshows/iphone-5-ios-6-10-fac...