Default speed on a POI

 

Interesting result. I loaded two files to my GPS, Speed Cameras_50.csv and I-95 Speed Traps_70.csv using Manual Mode.

The _50 file defaulted to 50 mph, but the _70 file defaulted to 95 mph.

What happened?

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Look at the I95

David King wrote:

Interesting result. I loaded two files to my GPS, Speed Cameras_50.csv and I-95 Speed Traps_70.csv using Manual Mode.

The _50 file defaulted to 50 mph, but the _70 file defaulted to 95 mph.

What happened?

make it Ininetyfive Speed Traps_70.csv

Rut Roh!!

jgermann wrote:

make it Ininetyfive Speed Traps_70.csv

Amazing. That I didn't see that.

I guess Garmin's claim that you need to use @xx or _xx for speeds is incorrect. You can also use -xx.

You mean Garmin is WRONG! Heaven for-fend!

surprised

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Never put a number in the filename of a POI file...

...unless you want a speed alert at that speed.

If there is a number in the filename of a speed camera file, all speeds will revert to whatever that number is. In fact, any POI file will become a speed alert when that speed is exceeded in proximity to the POI. Source - POI Loader help.

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as dobs108 said

from POI Loader

Quote:

Speed Information

Speed information can be included in the file name or in the names of individual POIs within the file.

POI Loader determines speed information based on the following information, listed from highest to lowest priority:

Speed information included in the name of the individual Custom POI. For example, a POI named "SpeedZone@30" will have an alert speed of 30 regardless of the speed information specified in Manual mode or in the file name.

Speed information entered in Manual mode.

Speed information included in the file name. POI Loader interprets any numbers in the file name as speed information. [emphasis added]

OKOKOK

Stop ganging up on me!

crying

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

@30

So the filename 50 will not override the @30 for a POI? I don't have POI Loader help with me today.

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SorrySorrySorry

David King wrote:

OkOkOk
Stop ganging up on me!

crying

Myself, I have to look it up every time, so it helps to know where it is in POI Loader.

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dobs108 wrote:

So the filename 50 will not override the @30 for a POI? I don't have POI Loader help with me today.

Yes. That's correct. Information in the POI file with the @ symbol will override numbers in the file name.

very confusing

very confusing

Default Speed on a POI

UnNamed wrote:

very confusing

I realize I'm comin in on the tail end of this discussion... But what the heck are you all talking about..? Sounds like you can add a POI/file to your Garmin and then specify what speed you want to be notified that you are exceeding ?????

Please be patient and clue me in... ? What are these files called ?

Thank you all...

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This is from poiloader

This is from poiloader help.

Understanding Speed and Proximity Alert Information

POI Loader automatically scans .csv and .gpx data files for speed and proximity alert information.

You can also use Manual mode to specify default speed and proximity alert information as needed.

Speed Information

Speed information can be included in the file name or in the names of individual POIs within the file.

POI Loader determines speed information based on the following information, listed from highest to lowest priority:

Speed information included in the name of the individual Custom POI. For example, a POI named "SpeedZone@30" will have an alert speed of 30 regardless of the speed information specified in Manual mode or in the file name.

Speed information entered in Manual mode.

Speed information included in the file name. POI Loader interprets any numbers in the file name as speed information.

More ifo

POI Loader determines whether or not a file contains speed and proximity alert points based on specific criteria. Use the following information to help you create Custom POI files:

If a file name contains a valid speed number or if all records in a file have speed encoded in the name, then all records in the file will include speed and proximity alerts. For example, a data file with the file name "Speed_30" generates speed alerts of 30 mph (or kph, depending on the type of units selected in POI Loader) for each POI in the file.

If the file name contains "redlight", POI Loader assumes all records in the file have proximity alerts with a distance of 400m/0.25 miles.

If a file contains "GATSO," "mobile," "SPECS," "safety," "speed," or "camera," but does not have a speed, POI Loader uses a default alert speed of 0, which means you will always be alerted. You can override this default value by entering the speed in Manual mode.

You can also enter speeds for each POI individually by adding the @ symbol and a number after the name of the POI. For example, a Custom POI named "Ridgeview@25" would create a POI named "Ridgeview" with a 25 mph speed alert.

POI Loader calculates proximity alert distance based on speed. You can enter proximity alert distance for individual Custom POIs in a .gpx file. You can also enter proximity alert distance for all Custom POIs in a data file using Manual mode.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

confused

ok im a little lost here.
if a poi file is named keybank-01-05 its ok? because i date poi files so i know which one i installed last.
or do i name the poi file keybankjanfifth
or is it just the @ sign and a number in the name that inputs extra info ?
and thanks for any help with this i guess you learn as you go lol

If you put a number in the

If you put a number in the file name you will get a alert.In the case of keybank-01-05 you will get alert of 1 mph.Connect poiloader to your gps.Select manual mode to verify what I posted.Use the skip at the bottom of poilaoder to go through each file and look for the alert that is posted for each file you have a number in it.That was a problem in the past for example Super 8 and Motel 6.No one could figure out why they were getting alerts for them.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Speed camera files

The POI Factory Speed Camera file is a POI file with locations of speed cameras. Each POI location inside the file has the speed limit for that road. When you approach the POI location, if you are exceeding the speed limit, there will be an alert.

A speed alert can be set for any POI file in several different ways, found in POI Loader help. One of them is to put a number in the filename. This becomes the speed limit for every POI in the file. This is frequently done by accident and there are unintended consequences.

For instance, you might want all the Motel 8 locations in the US in a POI file so you can always drive to the nearest one. If the name of the file is Motel_8.csv, there will be a speed alert every time you drive past a Motel 8 at over 8 mph. So, we are naming the file Motel_Eight.csv.

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name the .gpi file

geo334 wrote:

ok im a little lost here.
if a poi file is named keybank-01-05 its ok? because i date poi files so i know which one i installed last.
or do i name the poi file keybankjanfifth
or is it just the @ sign and a number in the name that inputs extra info ?
and thanks for any help with this i guess you learn as you go lol

If I read you correctly, you have a desire to keep track of the date on which you loaded some POI file.

The name you assign to the OUTPUT of POI Loader is your choice so you could do your dating there. In my last run I created a .gpi file that I named
"MyPOI express 2012051.gpi".

When POI Loader finished, it told me the number of points it had loaded, so I immediately used windows explorer to go into the [garmin nuvi]:\Garmin\POI folder and change the name to:
MyPOI express 20120521 220147 pts.gpi

While I prefer to do my POI Loader run at one time to refresh everything, you could decide that you wanted to do camera files separately from your other custom POI files. In that case, you could follow the technique above for camera files only - so long as you also deleted the previous run of cameras.

Alternatively, if you have sufficient internal memory on you GPS, you could just change the "extension" from .gpi to, say, .gpy in the [garmin nuvi]:\Garmin\POI folder. This would give you a history of POI loads.

@ geo334

You may already know this but just in case. If you click on My Favorites top right it will show files you have download from site and date updated. Ones in red are for latest update due. Your files you share with site will show in My Account with the last time you updated.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

POISync

In addition to what charlesd45 just said, members might want to look at POISync to keep your files downloaded from poi-factory in sync.

Go here
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/26847

Express vs Manual Mode

geo334 wrote:

ok im a little lost here.
if a poi file is named keybank-01-05 its ok? because i date poi files so i know which one i installed last.
or do i name the poi file keybankjanfifth
or is it just the @ sign and a number in the name that inputs extra info ?
and thanks for any help with this i guess you learn as you go lol

If you use POILoader in Manual Mode, you can override all speed & proximity values. The use of numbers in the file names will be used if you use Express Mode. I'm not sure if you can override '@' values in the individual POIs in Manual Mode.

Also, you can use certain keywords in the filename to have default values pop up in the loader.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

No user-defined proximity alert for Express Mode

What you cannot do, and I would love to, is to have a way to set a particular proximity alert per file or individual POI for Express Mode.

For example, I want to play a wav file whenever I get within 50 feet of my home. I have to use Manual Mode every time I load POI's.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

use GPX

David King wrote:

What you cannot do, and I would love to, is to have a way to set a particular proximity alert per file or individual POI for Express Mode.

For example, I want to play a wav file whenever I get within 50 feet of my home. I have to use Manual Mode every time I load POI's.

If you use EPE and make the file into a GPX you can embed a proximity alert in a file.

I have several files with both speed and proximities that are in both CSV and GPX. I load close to 100 different files in less than 2 minutes all in express.

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Alerts in express mode

David King wrote:

What you cannot do, and I would love to, is to have a way to set a particular proximity alert per file or individual POI for Express Mode.

For example, I want to play a wav file whenever I get within 50 feet of my home. I have to use Manual Mode every time I load POI's.

See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Oh.... 'E' PE

Box Car wrote:

If you use EPE and make the file into a GPX you can embed a proximity alert in a file.

OK. I was using the regular PE.

I used EPE just now. The HELP functions seem not to work, so I had to putz around. It worked.

THANKS

Can you set it for the whole file?

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

It is covered in my above

It is covered in my above post. The replace all .

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Simul-post

charlesd45 wrote:

It is covered in my above post. The replace all .

We posted at the same time, so I did not see that until now.

Thanks.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Almost right

David King wrote:

If you use POILoader in Manual Mode, you can override all speed & proximity values. The use of numbers in the file names will be used if you use Express Mode. I'm not sure if you can override '@' values in the individual POIs in Manual Mode.

Also, you can use certain keywords in the filename to have default values pop up in the loader.

Here is what POI Loader help says:

Quote:

Understanding Speed and Proximity Alert Information

POI Loader automatically scans .csv and .gpx data files for speed and proximity alert information.

You can also use Manual mode to specify default speed and proximity alert information as needed.

Speed Information

Speed information can be included in the file name or in the names of individual POIs within the file.

POI Loader determines speed information based on the following information, listed from highest to lowest priority:

Speed information included in the name of the individual Custom POI. For example, a POI named "SpeedZone@30" will have an alert speed of 30 regardless of the speed information specified in Manual mode or in the file name.

Speed information entered in Manual mode.

Speed information included in the file name. POI Loader interprets any numbers in the file name as speed information.

Proximity Alert Information

Proximity alert information can be calculated automatically based on speed information. It can also be included in .gpx data files or added in Manual mode.

POI Loader determines proximity alert information based on the following criteria, listed from highest to lowest priority:

Proximity alert information listed for individual POIs in a .gpx file. This information overrides all other proximity alert information.

Proximity alert information entered in Manual mode.

Proximity alert distance calculated by POI Loader based on speed information in the file name or in individual POI names. This calculation uses the following formula:

Prompt Distance = 36 seconds * Speed.

A default proximity alert distance of 400 meters/0.25 miles if the file name contains the word "redlight."

If there is a TourGuide audio file attached and no other proximity alert information is available, POI Loader assigns a proximity alert distance of 0.25 miles. [emphasis added]

Yeah

jgermann wrote:

Here is what POI Loader help says:

Yeah, I know. No need to send me very long cut&pastes. A few words would be better.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Sorry...

David King wrote:
jgermann wrote:

Here is what POI Loader help says:

Yeah, I know. No need to send me very long cut&pastes. A few words would be better.

Sorry but I was not sure what to do.

I had already quoted the speed part of POI Loader near the top of this page above.

Charlesd45 subsequently quoted the section from POI Loader help which I just re-quoted two post above. After both my and charlesd45's quotes, when you subsequently made a statement that was not consistent with POI Loader help, I was worried that others would read your statement as fact.

Lots of people have misconceptions about how to set alerts so I hoped that emphasizing the relevant parts about priorities higher than "manual" mode would help others understand the actual priorities which POI Loader employs.

Ah, OK

jgermann wrote:
David King wrote:
jgermann wrote:

I was worried that others would read your statement as fact.

You are absolutely correct. I'm not having a good brain day today.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN