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Rest Area Red light camera and Speed camera

 

I wonder if someone can help on this matter.

I download and Install the Red light Speed camera and the rest area,and I associated each one of them with the proper mp3 files too. I have a garmin c550 ,can someone please tell if is possible to Emulate the Driving and how to do it even if am not driving to a specific location.Just want to see if everything work ok.

In Other word If I make the Gps believe that I am driving would the Gps give all the alert ?

Thanks in advance

short answer

Yes.

When you load the POI though you need to set an alert distance (proximity) for them. For rest areas I set my distance at 5300 feet - just over a mile. A minute is plenty of time to slow down and pull off if needed. For red light cameras, I use 500 feet. Again, plenty of time for a warning.

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enable GPS simulator to test

go to GPS settings and enable the "GPS simulator" to make it virtually travel the routes. I think it's under Navigation tab or Settings, can't remember exactly, but I have Garmin 275 anyways.

once the simulator is enabled, then select the destination past the desired check point and let it simulate driving. it will ring all desired alerts on the route.

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Do this Exercise

Driver 38 wrote:

... can someone please tell if is possible to Emulate the Driving and how to do it even if am not driving to a specific location.Just want to see if everything work ok.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31482

Similar to c340?

I'm not sure about the c550, but if it is similar to the c340 then try this:

On the main screen, click on the Configuration (wrench) button at the bottom. Next click on System, and then set GPS Mode to Off. Go back to the main screen and go to where your starting point is located in your favorites. Select the point you wish to start from, Show Map, and then Set Location to this point.

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Rest Areas

I do set my Rest Areas alert distance to 10560 feet (2 miles). When the alert goes off you are generally looking right at the sign for the rest stop. That way you can see the services at the stop especially when its the bigger service plazas with food, gas, etc.

I use the defaults for the redlight and speed cameras files running POILoader in the express mode on them. They both work great as is!

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Here's mine

Red light and speed cameras: 528ft (US and Canada).
Rest areas: 5280ft (US), 3280ft (Canada).

3280ft is roughly equal to 1km, thus the setting for Canada rest areas. US rest area alerts generally pop up just after passing the sign on the highway. Red light and speed cameras are set the way they are due to the nearest major city having a lot of them set close together.

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What is the standard

What is the standard (default) alert that comes with the red light and speed camera files? (I prefer the basic chime that comes with some of the other ones...don't need a "klaxon" or the Star Trek "red alert" siren waking me up! rolleyes

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

cool Lots of good stuff here

cool Lots of good stuff here

Alerts

williston wrote:

What is the standard (default) alert that comes with the red light and speed camera files? (I prefer the basic chime that comes with some of the other ones...don't need a "klaxon" or the Star Trek "red alert" siren waking me up! rolleyes

From Poiloader help.

POI Loader determines whether or not a file contains speed and proximity alert points based on specific criteria. Use the following information to help you create Custom POI files:

If a file name contains a valid speed number or if all records in a file have speed encoded in the name, then all records in the file will include speed and proximity alerts. For example, a data file with the file name "Speed_30" generates speed alerts of 30 mph (or kph, depending on the type of units selected in POI Loader) for each POI in the file.
If the file name contains "redlight", POI Loader assumes all records in the file have proximity alerts with a distance of 400m/0.25 miles.
If a file contains "GATSO," "mobile," "SPECS," "safety," "speed," or "camera," but does not have a speed, POI Loader uses a default alert speed of 0, which means you will always be alerted. You can override this default value by entering the speed in Manual mode.
You can also enter speeds for each POI individually by adding the @ symbol and a number after the name of the POI. For example, a Custom POI named "Ridgeview@25" would create a POI named "Ridgeview" with a 25 mph speed alert.
POI Loader calculates proximity alert distance based on speed. You can enter proximity alert distance for individual Custom POIs in a .gpx file. You can also enter proximity alert distance for all Custom POIs in a data file using Manual mode.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

Still confused

All the good info here though I am still confused how to set up the alert distance for POI.

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RE: Still confused

RN09 wrote:

All the good info here though I am still confused how to set up the alert distance for POI.

Proximity alerts can be set in at least 3 different ways depending on the type of alert you want.

With one of the keywords documented in the help file for POI Loader you will get a default 1/4 mile or 400 meter alert distance. Running POI Loader in manual mode you can specify either a distance or speed trigger. Using GPX you can build a distance into the file.

Inserting a numeric value in the file name less than 128 will set a speed alert which runs in three ways. You will get a single alert if you are at or below the trigger speed. The alert will sound 36 seconds before you reach the point at your current speed. You will get a repeating alert if you are traveling above the trigger speed. Again, this alert starts approximately 36 seconds before you reach the point so the distance varies according to speed. Speed alerts are also configurable in a CSV file by adding the @ symbol before the desired speed. POI Loader handles speed alerts with numbers in the file name and using the @ symbol automatically. Distance alerts have to be specified for each file, but CSV files only support one or the other while GPX allows you to use both.

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Thanks for the reply. Great

Thanks for the reply. Great info with great detail on what to expect. What I was really asking about was what kind of alert sound comes with the files (if any). I was asking to clarify whether I would need to download and add a separate one with the files before I loaded them on my Nuvi. For example the Combined Rest Areas came standard with a simple chime, which is fine for my needs.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Alert Sounds

POI files don't come with "default" sounds. The "default" sound is a function of the Nuvi.

If you go back to the Rest Area Combined file page and continue to scroll down, you will see optional icons and sounds that you can download if you choose... or not.

A complete list of available sounds can be found here: http://www.poi-factory.com/gps-sounds

Instructions on how to set them up and load them onto your Nuvi can be found here: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/4360

Newer models don't support mp3 format and have to be changed to wav files as explained here: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/25730

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And to add to Gary's post

I'm sure it's covered in one of the URLs Gary posted but you can generate your own alert by going to "http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php"
and then naming the file appropriately as a .wav file and putting in your POI folder along with your POI files and icons.for upload using Garmin's POI Loader application !

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Thanks again. I thought

Thanks again. I thought the sound I get as I approached a rest area came along with the POI file itself and if I wanted to change it (ie: "Rest Area Ahead") I would have to add it myself.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

You will also need to use

You will also need to use Poiloader in the manual mode to set a distance for the alert. Unless you use a gpx file and add the alert distance to the file allowing you to use express mode for Poiloader. See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

question

charlesd45 wrote:

You will also need to use Poiloader in the manual mode to set a distance for the alert. Unless you use a gpx file and add the alert distance to the file allowing you to use express mode for Poiloader. See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

This is where I'm confused.

Let's say if I set the distance for rest area is 2 miles. Would it be applied to all other poi(s) like WM, Costco, or traffic camera? And I don't want that.

I guess I have to load poi individually to avoid that conflict?

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Nuvi 2450LM

Manual Mode

RN09 wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

You will also need to use Poiloader in the manual mode to set a distance for the alert. Unless you use a gpx file and add the alert distance to the file allowing you to use express mode for Poiloader. See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

This is where I'm confused.

Let's say if I set the distance for rest area is 2 miles. Would it be applied to all other poi(s) like WM, Costco, or traffic camera? And I don't want that.

I guess I have to load poi individually to avoid that conflict?

When loading in Manual Mode, it will ask you about each POI individually, so you can set a distance for each one. You can have the Rest Area at 2 Miles, and the rest at whatever distance you prefer.

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Streetpilot C340 Nuvi 2595 LMT

Alerts

shrifty wrote:
RN09 wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

You will also need to use Poiloader in the manual mode to set a distance for the alert. Unless you use a gpx file and add the alert distance to the file allowing you to use express mode for Poiloader. See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

This is where I'm confused.

Let's say if I set the distance for rest area is 2 miles. Would it be applied to all other poi(s) like WM, Costco, or traffic camera? And I don't want that.

I guess I have to load poi individually to avoid that conflict?

When loading in Manual Mode, it will ask you about each POI individually, so you can set a distance for each one. You can have the Rest Area at 2 Miles, and the rest at whatever distance you prefer.

To add just a little. When you run Poiloader in the manual mode. When you come to a custom poi that you don't want a alert for.Select next not skip.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

Thanks

Ok, so to more clearer for me, to add the alert distance, I have to add the poi in individual, can't add like the whole POI(s) in one folder like I used too (I put WW, CC....sub folders under one big folder)

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Nuvi 2450LM

Making alerts work

Your files can all be in the same folders they were, POI-Loader reads the content of the FOLDER and asks about each file in the folder individually. Alerts are set by file, and that's what was meant by the comment they are loaded individually.

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Got it

Thanks for a clear explanation.

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Thanks to the help provided

Thanks to the help provided here I have installed the red light and speed camera POIs on my two Nuvi's (255W and 2595) -with- custom sounds and icons and all is working perfectly. I have one question regarding how they appear on the two units. On the 255, they are listed separately and neatly by category: Where to > Extras >
Custom POIs > where I see each one listed separately: (All categories, Rest Areas Combined (ver.Z), Speed Cameras and Red-Light Cameras. Selecting any of them brings up all the POIs in that category.

However on the 2595 they are all combined together:
Where to > Categories > Custom POIs. From here the unit lists them, but only for the local area and as said before the list contains everything.

Is this normal for the 2595 or is it something I did? I installed them on the 2595 first and used the exact same folders when I installed them on the 255. No big deal if I have to live it with this way, it just would be nice/easier to have them separated by category on the 2595.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

If I recall correctly that

If I recall correctly that is normal for the 2595. The workaround I believe is to create a separate .GPI file for each custom POI. I do something similar to this for my 1300, in that the red light and speed cameras are in one .GPI file, rest area files in another, and Historic Vessels (my file) in a third file. One fringe benefit is that it's somewhat easier to update the files by splitting them into separate .GPI files.

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Folder Structure

williston wrote:

However on the 2595 they are all combined together:
Where to > Categories > Custom POIs. From here the unit lists them, but only for the local area and as said before the list contains everything.

Is this normal for the 2595 or is it something I did? I installed them on the 2595 first and used the exact same folders when I installed them on the 255. No big deal if I have to live it with this way, it just would be nice/easier to have them separated by category on the 2595.

Please let us know the folder structure that contains the POI files on your PC.

For example:
\My POIs
\\Cameras
\\Rest Areas
\\Stuff

I save the files (poi, icon,

I save the files (poi, icon, sound) in a temporary folder on my desktop with the same name (ie: red_light_cams, run POI loader and then usually delete the folder after the poi's are installed.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

POI Folder

I have a poi folder with different folders like rest areas, car repair service, hotels and when I have a poi that I find I put on the right folder and keep on the computer for the next time. When you connect your gps to the poi loader you can see the file and allow or not to be transfered to the gps. Also you can put the alert distance to that poi.

Temporary Folder

williston wrote:

I save the files (poi, icon, sound) in a temporary folder on my desktop with the same name (ie: red_light_cams, run POI loader and then usually delete the folder after the poi's are installed.

If I understand correctly, you must have something like this:
>Temp = folder pointed to in POI Loader which contains the files
..red_light_cams.csv
..red_light_cams.bmp
..red_light_cams.wav
..rest_areas.csv
.. etc

Before replying, look at charlesd45's FAQ
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/25721. Most of us follow his suggestion of a main POI folder which contains at least two subfolders (and these subfolders contain collections for POI files (.csv, .bmp and .mp3/.wav).

Now, this all may be just differences in how various units work, but I would have thought they would be the same in this particular instance. That is why we are asking for such details.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Thanks for the quick reply. My folders look like this:

[desktop]
[folder] > Garmin_POIs
[subfolder] >>red_light_cams
>>>Redlight-Cameras.csv
>>>Redlight-Cameras.BMP
>>>Redlight-Cameras.wav
[subfolder] >>speed_cams
>>>Speed-Cameras.csv
>>>Speed-Cameras.bmp
>>>Speed-Cameras.wav
[subfolder] >>Rest_Areas
>>>RestAreasCombined(Ver.AT).csv
>>>RestAreasCombined(Ver.AT).bmp
>>>RestAreasCombined(Ver.AT).wav

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@williston

That looks good.

So, there must be something different about the units because I would have expected to see - under Where To? > Extras > Custom POIs:
All Categories
Redlight-Cameras
RestAreasCombined(Ver.AT)
Redlight-Cameras

on both units.

jgermann: I fixed it. I

jgermann: I fixed it. I went through charlesd45's instructions step-by-step again and discovered my error on #17. I was selecting the sub-folder instead of the main folder when installing. This is likely because I installed them one at a time over several months and my logical mind was telling me there was no need to re-do the previous files and thus I selected the new sub-folder.

They are listed separately and neatly on the 2595 now. Thanks again for your help and patience!

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Good for you.

@williston Good Job!

Thanks for letting us know.

Many of us like to have our custom POIs in categories which make them easier to search. We want cameras but do not want them near the top of the category list because it is unlikely that we will want to navigate to a speed camera or red light camera.

There is a thread that contains a writeup by bear007 which will be informative on the "order" in which POI file appear under "Custom POIs".
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/36011

You hit the nail on the head

You hit the nail on the head re: not likely to be navigating to a red light camera. As I said, it wasn't a deal breaker to have them all combined, but the main reason I wanted to try and separate them out was because of two other categories I have (camprounds and A&W Root Beer) wink that I wanted to be able to find, and they were scattered and buried within the large combined list. I'm going to experiment with the "radius" alert feature now so I'll get the pop-up when I'm in the area of an A&W.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

I actually have one final

I actually have one final (?) question. I installed the combined rest areas months ago and used manual mode to set a 2 mile proximity alert. I then (today)successfully used the combined method in express mode as per previous entry ("step 17")to get them all separated by category. The combined rest area files were included. Will the orginal proximity alert be preserved for the combined rest area file, and if not, how do I work around this?

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no

No. Once you run poiloader again you have to reset the manual alerts.

I like to convert the csv files I use for alerts to gpx and build the distance into the file. That way I can use the express mode for poiloader. See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

Confirmed Rest Area alerts were removed

Thanks Charles. I confirmed that they were gone by checking one of them under the category on the Nuvi. The info tab on the 2595 shows the proximity alert details if one has been set. (either express or manually). Since I really like the 2 mile alerts for upcoming rest areas, I'll give your suggestion a try and post back how I make out.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Either way you will still

Either way you will still have to set the alert distance. Using the gpx process and building the alert distance in.You will just eliminate using manual mode for poiloader.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

What's a good conversion program for Mac?

Everything I've used gives me problems. Any good programs to g o from MP3 to WAV?

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Used GPX/Extra POI

@Charlesd45: I followed your suggestion (use GPX file and use Extra POI to add the distance manually) and succeeded in restoring the proximity alerts for the Combined Rest Areas. I simulated them (red light and rest areas) and the proximity alerts, sounds and icons all work great. Also they are all listed separately in their own category. Thank you.

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GoldWave

GoldWave http://downloads.phpnuke.org/en/download-item-view-x-b-b-a-m...

Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

=== USING GOLDWAVE ===

Using GoldWave for my instructions and Windows XP.

A. Open up GoldWave.

B. Select file then open .

C. Go to the correct folder on the computer with the mp3 and select it.

D. Select file then save as.

1) For the name put in the same as your custom poi file name.

2) Save as type, select Wave(.wav) from the pull down window.

3) Under attributes select, PCM signed 16 bit,mono.

You now have your wav filed saved and ready to add to your folder with the custom poi it goes with.

You can make your own wav files by going to http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and typing in what you want it to say. There are several voices to pick from.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

Proximity alert test/simulation: Quick and Dirty Method

After downloading the speed and red light camera POI's I wanted to test the custom voices I loaded with them to make sure they worked. Since none of them were real close to me, I didn't want to take all day "driving" to one in sim mode. Here's all you have to do:

1. Google "street address to GPS coordinates". There's a bunch of them out there.

2. Enter an address a mile or so up the street from you and get the coordinates

3. Open up the gpx file and insert a line at the top.

4. Fill in the appropriate columns with the data. (column A&B for red light cameras.) Optional: Fill in description column as appropriate.

5. Test in sim mode or go for a drive!

I left them in after testing. It will give the kids a scare the next time they borrow the Nuvi without asking and go that way:

"Warning: Slow Down! Speed enforcement camera ahead!" (Make sure the Nuvi volume is set loud.) razz

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Custom POI's and FW v6.30

I thought it was important to come back here and put in a note about POI subcategories on a 2595 running FW update v6.30 so everyone understands why this procedure is necessary.

The string above outlines the way to get POIs installed in separate sub-categories. The point I want to make sure everyone understands, is that this whole complicated procedure ONLY became necessary after Garmin released FW update v6.30. My 2595 had separate subcatories showing on the unit and all was fine when I was still running FW v6.20. I could install POI's one at a time and in any named folder I chose, express or manual and have them showing in their own folder/tab/subcategory on the unit. (It still works this way on my older 255W).

If you are having/seeing this issue on your 2xxx or 3xxx series after updating to FW v6.30, please report it to Garmin tech support. I am currently in a back and forth with them trying to convince them that this broke with the jump from 6.20 to 6.30.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Good advice

Thank you

My pleasure. Scattered

My pleasure. Scattered around this site are related discussion threads about this same issue. (v6.20 -vs- v6.30 and the loss of POI sub-categories) A check of recent posts should reveal most of them.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

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