What controls order

 

In a Garmin 2300 I copies several POI collections (.GPI) I created with POILoader. In the GPS the categories are not in any apparent order. Maybe date created. How can I get them into alphabetic order?

Are the in alphabetical order on your computer?

I have all my poi's in alabetical order within the file I upload to my garmin and that's how they show on my 765t.

in the order loaded?

I think I remember a post a while back that said GPI files are displayed in the order loaded to the device. You are creating the files on the unit right?

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Box Car wrote:

I think I remember a post a while back that said GPI files are displayed in the order loaded to the device. You are creating the files on the unit right?

I am creating using "save to computer" then copying from the computer disk to the GPS. this way I can have different collections on different GPS with out having to keep multiple copies of data.
When I created directly to the GPS they were in alphabetical order. Now I am not sure what the order is.

As far as I know...

As far as I know, GPSr's display POI's in "distance" order, from closest to farthest. In Garmin's world, there is no alpabetical order - only distance order. And also in Garmin's world, only the fifty closest POI's display. So if there happens to be more than fifty POI's closer to you than the one you're looking for, you won't find it unless you find it by spelling its name.

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plunder wrote:

As far as I know, GPSr's display POI's in "distance" order, from closest to farthest. In Garmin's world, there is no alpabetical order - only distance order. And also in Garmin's world, only the fifty closest POI's display. So if there happens to be more than fifty POI's closer to you than the one you're looking for, you won't find it unless you find it by spelling its name.

The OP is talking about categories (folders) not POIs

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it seems to me

Panache wrote:
Box Car wrote:

I think I remember a post a while back that said GPI files are displayed in the order loaded to the device. You are creating the files on the unit right?

I am creating using "save to computer" then copying from the computer disk to the GPS. this way I can have different collections on different GPS with out having to keep multiple copies of data.
When I created directly to the GPS they were in alphabetical order. Now I am not sure what the order is.

it seems to me that what you are doing is rather labor intensive - but then your labor is free. I would more than gladly eat a few MB of disk storage for holding multiple copies of a source file so I could point POI Loader at the folder and have it create the file directly to the device.

As it stands, I use this method in that the bulk of the files I load are GPX, I have a POI Source folder where I keep my source files and then use EPE to create a GPX or CSV which I put into another set of folders for POI Loader. Once I have the file in EPE, then I can specify where the output goes so I could have a separate pot for each of my units if desired.

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POI Order on the GPS

Panache wrote:

In a Garmin 2300 I copies several POI collections (.GPI) I created with POILoader. In the GPS the categories are not in any apparent order. Maybe date created. How can I get them into alphabetic order?

If you individually compile POI files or groups of POI in different folders to a location on your hard drive then the order is ...

If you start with a empty POI folder on the GPS or SD card then the first GPI file you load into the POI folder will always be the first file displayed on your GPS. If the GPI file has multiple files and folders compiled within it then they will be displayed in alphabetically, folders first then individual files.

The 2nd GPI file will always be the 2nd file or group of files in the display order on the GPS, regardless of whether you update them later by copying updated files over top of them.

So, in short, they are always displayed in the order they were originally installed on your GPS and will be alphabetical in folder first, then file order within each GPI file.

I also update multiple GPSs regularly and have done it with individual files since each person wants some different and some of the same files. No matter if you do it with individual files for each POI or individual setup folders for each person, its
still a lot of of work to keep track of everyone's files. Some like alerts, others don't, the variables go on.

Using a single POI folder
One advantage of running POILoader on a single folder with sub-folders like the following is that the files will be in folder and alphabetical order. The folders become categories on the GPS that make the list of scrolling through files much shorter.

\MyPOIs
______\Favorites
______\Food
______\Stores
etc.

A disadvantage is that you have to go through all of the files and individually configure them before running POILoader if some people want alerts, or different distances, or different icons or WAV sounds, etc. if you want to use POILoader in Express mode.

Using individual POI folders
A disadvantage if you run POILoader on each of the following sub-folders individually you end up with multiple GPI files.

\Favorites
\Food
\Stores
etc.

Then each of the multiple files in each folder will be in the root of your Custom POIs. These files will display in the order that the GPI files were originally installed on the GPS but alphabetical within each file.

The advantage is that if you only have one update file you can quickly run POILoader in Manual mode for quick alerts with different distances.

Its been a long week and I'm tired but I hope this is what you are looking for.

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@bear007

Superb job explaining the order of POI's.
Should be beneficial to all future questions regarding the topic. Thank you for your efforts. Now you can hopefully get some rest over the weekend.

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Yes, first on first on

Yes, first on first on list...second on second on the list and so on

The only way I have found to change it is to delete and start over.

except...

muell9k wrote:

Superb job explaining the order of POI's.
Should be beneficial to all future questions regarding the topic. Thank you for your efforts. Now you can hopefully get some rest over the weekend.

Unless you store the source on a removable drive then the order is reversed.

Explain

@Panache,

I'm not sure what your saying here. Could you explain.

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Explanation

If the source files you use (the GPX or CSV) are stored on a flash drive or SD card and used as input directly into POILoader from there, the .GPI file will have the output directories in reverse order.

Not on Mine

My source files are always my hard drive when I run POILoader so I copied them to a flash drive and ran POILoader on them from there as a test.

There is no change in the display order on the GPS for me. I left the GPI file on the Nuvi SDCard on the 1st bootup and on the 2nd bootup copied them onto the Nuvi drive. There were no changes in the display order at any time.

I don't see any reason the file order would change coming from a flash or SD drive but I ran the test anyway.

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one folder with subfolders

I have always used the method where POI_Loader reads a folder with many subfolders, each containing POIs.

The result is also one file which I copy onto the GPS.

I think this is a simpler method than the others.