Found out how to speed up download

 

If you look at the text below my 'Thanks' you'll see the items I block in my router...

I found out a while back that this SLOWS DOWN map transfers from Garmin....

My 'fast fix' is to unblock all and do the download...

Anybody know which of these when blocked, slows down Map Downloads to a crawl?

Thanks

Peer to Peer
GNUTELLA_EZPEER Block
FASTTRACK Block
KURO Block
EDONKEY2000 Block
BITTORRENT Block
DIRECTCONNECT Block
PIGO Block
WINMX Block

Instant Messenger
MSN Block
ICQ Block
YAHOO_MESSENGER Block
SKYPE Non-Block
IRC Block
ODIGO Block
REDIFF Block
GOOGLE_TALK Block
IM_QQ Block

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

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Personally, I don't run any of those things.

But, anything that creates a connection will use bandwidth, and possibly intercept data on your pipe. I would shut them all down.

I have a 10mbps pipe, and maxed out at 1 MB/second for the 2012.10 map update. In other words, full bandwidth was used.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

That's why they are

That's why they are blocked... All but Skype, so we can talk to our kids...

A couple of map upgrades ago... The time I was complaining about low bandwidth on the download.... That was what I was seeing... when I 'gave up' and decided to try in a couple days, "When server traffic would be less" I waited, and encountered the same thing.... so I un-blocked all (Highly technical, eh?) and the download flew!!

I keep threatening to find out by deleting them one at a time it is... but when faced with a interrupted download... (As the router -- and Gatway reboots --- Yeah, I forgot to tell you there are 2 of them!)

Seeing that I can't stop and start these downloads at will without having it burp... I took the 'easy' way out, and un-blocked all.... 'Cause I know it will work....

I haven't encountered anything else, Adobe upgrades, Microsoft Updates, anything here... that burps.... but the Garmin Map Upgrade does....

And I'm nosy..... smile!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

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If there is a slowdown, I would suggest it is a matter of conflicting port(s) being used; the one(s) for Garmin, and for the other program(s).

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On the other hand...

Why not just make a direct connect to the DSL or Cable modem for the duration of the map download. If speed is the only thing to worry about.

Just sent to Garmin

Dear Sir or madam:

I've been meaning to write you on this subject for a year now....
I've a question regarding Lifetime Maps downloading via MyGarmin....
I login, and the site tells me there is a map upgrade available for my Lifetime maps...
Fine...

I start the download, and it SLOW.... One time I even called you asking why the downloads are slow... You said there was no known issues...

I eventually found out why the download is slow.... and once I made the change here, everything was fine....

Here's what I found: Please look at the attached Picture: router.jpg This is the things that are AUTOMATICALLY BLOCKED within my router....

I have NO ISSUES, other than Garmin Map downloads, with these blocks being in place for Microsoft, Adobe, or other upgrades or downloads...

But when I try and download Garmin Maps, I must UN-Block ALL of them.... I do all because it was a quick fix to get the download done...

The reason for this email is to try and determine WHICH of these indicated in the picture attached is what is causing the download issue, so I can be more precise in my settings for 'next time'

Again.... The ONLY Site that I have issues with these filters is the Garmin Map Download times... Not in normal browsing in MyGarmin.... Just on map downloads.... and the symptom is

Extreme slowdown in the map upgrade download..... Instead of the normal 1.5+ Mb/sec.... I see about 30Kb/sec, with the filters as you see in the router.

Again, if I Un-Block ALL filters.... Speed goes right back to 1.5Mb/sec or so....

Just nosy........ So next time I won't have to un-block all....

Jan

Peer to Peer
GNUTELLA_EZPEER Block
FASTTRACK Block
KURO Block
EDONKEY2000 Block
BITTORRENT Block
DIRECTCONNECT Block
PIGO Block
WINMX Block

Instant Messenger
MSN Block
ICQ Block
YAHOO_MESSENGER Block
SKYPE Non-Block
IRC Block
ODIGO Block
REDIFF Block
GOOGLE_TALK Block
IM_QQ Block

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Ever heard of Caffeine ?

I don't mean the liquid version... There's one for Windows, and one for Linux as well.

The Windows version I use comes from this website:

http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/

The Linux version is available there:

http://Launchpad.net/caffeine

What this small and very handy little application does, is prevent your PC from entering screensaver and therefore sleep mode. The next step that is therefore avoided, is disabling of some important functionalities.

Launching it is a breeze: I have a shortcut in my Quicklaunch bar. It opens in a snap, no nags or anything. And if I want to re-enable the screensaver, I can either close the app, or disable it. One right-clic is all it takes.

To make a long story short, I frequently need to upload or download large files from the Web, or from remote servers. Before I started using Caffeine, the download or upload would slow down to a crawl, and eventually die on me - because the LAN card was getting disconnected, or some LAN functionalities were put to idle status.

You may want to try it for your next update ? I know I enjoyed discovering it !

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Thanks -

Thanks for the info, I'm going to try it next time.

Tech Support Email

In typical (I just knew this would happen!) "I'm reading a flip-card, and your question is not on the flip cards--What do I do?" tech support fashion... Garmin answered my comments, sidestepping the entire issue... They Blame the Router... (Sure).... "Get a later firmware update"......... Sure..

I responded that it is business class router has the latest firmware, and this has happened on prior version, too, and only happens during Garmin Downloads and when download falls from 1.5Mb to 30Kb, and I open up a second window and run a speedtest, and that speedtest measures nearly 1.5Mb, and I remove all blocks, then the download increases to 1.5Mb, which points directly at the blocking of processes. All I'm trying to do is determine WHICH block they are using, so I can adapt the setting to adjust, and all this fell on deaf ears...

Thanks a lot!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Even easier.........

spera wrote:

I don't mean the liquid version... There's one for Windows, and one for Linux as well.

The Windows version I use comes from this website:

http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/

The Linux version is available there:

http://Launchpad.net/caffeine

What this small and very handy little application does, is prevent your PC from entering screensaver and therefore sleep mode. The next step that is therefore avoided, is disabling of some important functionalities.

Launching it is a breeze: I have a shortcut in my Quicklaunch bar. It opens in a snap, no nags or anything. And if I want to re-enable the screensaver, I can either close the app, or disable it. One right-clic is all it takes.

To make a long story short, I frequently need to upload or download large files from the Web, or from remote servers. Before I started using Caffeine, the download or upload would slow down to a crawl, and eventually die on me - because the LAN card was getting disconnected, or some LAN functionalities were put to idle status.

You may want to try it for your next update ? I know I enjoyed discovering it !

I don't see a need for anything of that sort. My computer never goes to sleep or pops a screen saver. I don't have any need for the eye candy of a screen saver and they haven't been needed to protect a monitor from burn in since CRT monitors became (mostly) a thing of the past.

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Exactly. I just use the power setting to turn off my monitor after 5 minutes away. No screen saver, or hibernation mode required.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

A Suggestion

JanJ wrote:

The reason for this email is to try and determine WHICH of these indicated in the picture attached is what is causing the download issue, so I can be more precise in my settings for 'next time'

Again.... The ONLY Site that I have issues with these filters is the Garmin Map Download times... Not in normal browsing in MyGarmin.... Just on map downloads.... and the symptom is

Extreme slowdown in the map upgrade download..... Instead of the normal 1.5+ Mb/sec.... I see about 30Kb/sec, with the filters as you see in the router.

Disable all blocking. Then enable 1 block at a time and test the map update download speed. It's time consuming but may lead you somewhere (or not).

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spera wrote:

What this small and very handy little application does, is prevent your PC from entering screensaver and therefore sleep mode. The next step that is therefore avoided, is disabling of some important functionalities.

So you have screensaver, sleep, hibernate set to kick in X minutes. Then you have Caffeine to prevent your computer from entering any of the above mode. That's interesting.

He doesn't keep his torrents

He doesn't keep his torrents going non-stop. wink

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Keeping all your USB ports on

I found the following some time ago on another website and kept it on a word document thinking it might come in handy one day.

If the nüvi is connected to the computer & the computer falls "asleep", your toys battery may get discharged so to avoid this do the following:

1-Right click on My Computer.
2-Click on Properties.
3-Click the Hardware tab.
4-Click on the Device Manager button.
5-In Device Manager, click on the + by Universal Serial Bus controllers to expand it.
6-Double click on each of USB Root Hub one at a time to open its properties.
7-Click on the Power Management tab.
8-The setting "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" is probably checked. Uncheck it.
9-Click OK.
10-Repeat #6-9 for each USB Root Hub you have.
11-When finished, close Device Manager & System Properties.

This should prevent your computer's USB ports from being turned off.

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cool

cool

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Good Idea, but how....

chewbacca:
Once I download the file to the GPS, how do I then start another so I can go back to test them one at a time?

When the map update is here, I don't want to corrupt it by screwing with the settings, that's why I UN-block all...
I agree if I could "Do it Again" I could then turn them off one at a time....

But another question comes up.. When I do change the settings, I have to reboot the router... this drops the connection for ~30 seconds....

I'd really like to determine what it is, but .....

????

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

JanJ, Don't download the

JanJ,

Don't download the whole thing at once.

I did a map update once for a friend a while back but don't remember exactly how I did it. I was thinking perhaps Garmin map update uses some kind of download manager that allows you to start/stop at will. If that's true, you can test your connection by starting/stopping the download with different router config.

You may try enabling 2 or 3 blocks at a time. If the speed slows down, one (or more) of those blocks is causing it. Right now you're dealing with so many blocks (enabled). Isolate the problem by disabling most of the blocks.

I did say it's going to be time consuming, didn't I? grin

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Interesting... maybe they're using p2p for load balancing?

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Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)

Hmm

Wouldn't it be easier to download SysInternalsSuite from the MS site, and run PortMon.exe?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

isn't portmon a utility to

isn't portmon a utility to monitor serial and parallel ports? Wireshark is what you need to capture and analyze network packets.

Thanks COOL

THANKS,COOL grin

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JanJ wrote:

I responded that it is business class router has the latest firmware, and this has happened on prior version, too, and only happens during Garmin Downloads

What is your router model number? Is there an option to log dropped packets? That may be a good start.

Are you saying

spera wrote:

I don't mean the liquid version... There's one for Windows, and one for Linux as well.

The Windows version I use comes from this website:

http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/

The Linux version is available there:

http://Launchpad.net/caffeine

What this small and very handy little application does, is prevent your PC from entering screensaver and therefore sleep mode. The next step that is therefore avoided, is disabling of some important functionalities.

Launching it is a breeze: I have a shortcut in my Quicklaunch bar. It opens in a snap, no nags or anything. And if I want to re-enable the screensaver, I can either close the app, or disable it. One right-clic is all it takes.

To make a long story short, I frequently need to upload or download large files from the Web, or from remote servers. Before I started using Caffeine, the download or upload would slow down to a crawl, and eventually die on me - because the LAN card was getting disconnected, or some LAN functionalities were put to idle status.

You may want to try it for your next update ? I know I enjoyed discovering it !

That all Caffeine does is disable the screensaver? Why not right-click on your desktop and disable it yourself instead of downloading yet another program?

Not sure what you mean when you say "The next step that is therefore avoided, is disabling of some important functionalities." What does that mean?

Precisely

scyntax wrote:
spera wrote:

I don't mean the liquid version... There's one for Windows, and one for Linux as well.

The Windows version I use comes from this website:

http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/...

That all Caffeine does is disable the screensaver? Why not right-click on your desktop and disable it yourself instead of downloading yet another program?...

Precisely what I thought.

Could indeed be your router

JanJ wrote:

Anybody know which of these when blocked, slows down Map Downloads to a crawl?

Without knowing which router you actually have, I'm only speculating. With that in mind, depending on the particular router implementation, the mere presence of all those blocking rules may be adversely affecting your performance. For example, if it compares each packet to each explicit block rule in turn, it will bog down particularly on very large transfers. This may not affect speed tests as much as a multi-gigabyte map download.

As others have mentioned, using a tool like Wireshark would allow you to see precisely what ports are being used for the transfer. With that knowledge, and the model of your router, one might be able to provide a better analysis.

I see what you mean there

CraigW wrote:
scyntax wrote:
spera wrote:

I don't mean the liquid version... There's one for Windows, and one for Linux as well.

The Windows version I use comes from this website:

http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/...

That all Caffeine does is disable the screensaver? Why not right-click on your desktop and disable it yourself instead of downloading yet another program?...

Precisely what I thought.

I had tried that, but my laptop would STILL get in some sort of power-conservative routine at one point or other. Like, when I thought it was downloading nicely and I wasn't paying attention to it.

Waking up was painful: a lot of wasted time, yet another crashed download !

You'll also be saying that I could edit my power settings. I'm afraid that this is a company-owned machine, and that functionality is LOCKED by our IT department.

The smallish EXE I'm showing you, prevents it from "launching" any power-saving mode. And it works fine for me.

So that's why I use Caffeine. And if you don't "like" it, or don't "want" it, that's absolutely fine by me. I know what my choice is, I'm not trying to impose it to ya. I just spent over 20 years doing IT support, and I thought I'd share. If you don't want to accept my recommendation, guess what - I won't even notice, let alone care.

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RVS4000 The logging feature

RVS4000

The logging feature is not what it should be, but otherwise it is fine.

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

RVS4000The logging feature

Double post

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Seems like unnecessary blocking to me

JanJ wrote:

That's why they are blocked... All but Skype, so we can talk to our kids...

A couple of map upgrades ago... The time I was complaining about low bandwidth on the download.... That was what I was seeing... when I 'gave up' and decided to try in a couple days, "When server traffic would be less" I waited, and encountered the same thing.... so I un-blocked all (Highly technical, eh?) and the download flew!!

I keep threatening to find out by deleting them one at a time it is... but when faced with a interrupted download... (As the router -- and Gatway reboots --- Yeah, I forgot to tell you there are 2 of them!)

Seeing that I can't stop and start these downloads at will without having it burp... I took the 'easy' way out, and un-blocked all.... 'Cause I know it will work....

I haven't encountered anything else, Adobe upgrades, Microsoft Updates, anything here... that burps.... but the Garmin Map Upgrade does....

And I'm nosy..... smile!

If you have no children at home (as I suspect from your comment above about Skype) that you must control their connections and downloads, why do you even bother to block any of those?

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Expect nothing!, appreciate benignity!

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JanJ wrote:

RVS4000

The logging feature is not what it should be, but otherwise it is fine.

Is it Linksys/Cicso RVS4000 wired router? Could your download speed be related to IPS being enabled? I see some RVS4000 users complaining about download speed due to IPS (intrusion prevention system) being enabled.

See this:
http://icesquare.com/wordpress/cisco-rvs4000-4-port-gigabit-...

Kwibbly does have a valid point. If you're the only user, you're only making things difficult for yourself.

No trouble getting 21+Mb/sec

No trouble getting 21+Mb/sec almost everywhere else..
Do have some trouble doing ftp to India for betatesting.... It gets slow there...
I'm doing blocking in router because it is easier there. I need the horsepower for the processing I'm doing elsewhere (BluRay Rendering)

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

slow download for maps and software

how are the named items blocked, unblocked in the router. I am a newby and need step by step how to!

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When I download a new map update, I....

....just change the power management features on my computer to always stay on. Once it gets done, I change them back to 20 minutes to automatically go to sleep. Works well for me.

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