nuvi 350 freezes with 8GB SD card

 

I just bought an A-Data 8GB SDHC card and filled with up with 1000 MP3s. Now when I boot the Garmin with the card in the slot the unit freezes and I have to hit the reset button on the back of the unit to turn off the GPS.
Anyone else have this problem?

8gb card, as far as I know,

8gb card, as far as I know, Garmin Support says the maximum support for some SD cars is 4GB.

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

update

So I reformatted the card and loaded around 1.5GB of MP3s and it plays fine in the nuvi 350. Now when I put a few more files on the card the unit freezes like before. What gives?

Do you have the mp3's in the

Do you have the mp3's in the root folder or in a folder under the root? On my Zumo, the root folder has a limit on the number of files that it can take.

Probably because SDHC

pmreinhardt explains the issues regarding SDHC SD Cards with all SD Card devices:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=75837

(I hope its ok to post a link to another GPS forum).

He basically says there are some offbrand SD Card manufacturers that follow the "normal" SD Card protocols up to 4GB. The newer protocol allows more capacity (like 8GB) but requires a special SDHC SD Card reader within the device.

To my knowledge, the Nuvi 350 doesn't have a SDHC card support.

So basically, its a crap shoot. Generally any SD Card (non-SDHC) should work in the Nuvi, but a SDHC card will probably give poor results (as you can see).

I bought a 4GB (non-SDHC) SD Card for my Nuvi 350 and it seems to work fine.

Can't really blame Garmin about this because the SDHC readers were either too expensive or non-existant when the product was being produced.

We have no problem linking

We have no problem linking to other reputable GPS resources.

You will know if you post the competitor that I have a gripe with, your link won't stay up very long and you will get an explanation in an email on why and so far there is only one company that is on Miss Poi's *%$@ list.

Miss Poi

I have no music in root.

I have no music in root. Everything is in a MP3 subfolder with another subfolder for each band.
So I emailed Garmin support and they said that 4GB is the formal limit and that 8GB is untested.
I was browsing the support site and read all of the revision histories for the other Nuvis and all but the 350 explicitly state an update for SDHC card support. So I ordered a 360 and will be returning my 350. I hope the 8GB card works in that one.

A non-SDHC 4GB+ Card?

pitterchi wrote:

I bought a 4GB (non-SDHC) SD Card for my Nuvi 350 and it seems to work fine.

I thought that there was no such thing as a 4GB+ SD card that wasn't a SDHC. Am I wrong? I thought that currently, the highest that a SD card could go was 2GB and that the higher ones just used a new/different method of compression. I tried an off brand 4GB card of my co-workers and it worked fine. Not sure how the performance would be though. I just wanted to see if it would read and write to it and it did.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

Thanks Miss Poi :), I hope I

Thanks Miss Poi smile, I hope I never reference whatever site it is. lol.

I just checked the firmware revisions for the 360 and didn't see where it supported SDHC SD Cards. I do see where it says "support for High Capacity SD cards" but becareful because it may not be the same... It could mean the maximum size of a normal SD card was increased.

You can buy 4GB non-SDHC cards. It seems like the SD Cards go fro 16MB - 4GB. The SDHC seem to go from 4GB - 8GB.

So what is the difference

So what is the difference between SDHC and "High Capacity SD Cards"? I thought that SDHC stood for SD Hight Capacity.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

SDHC (v2.0) vs SD compatible (SD 1.0)

I had the same problem with my Dell Axim X50v/X51v
it's a SD v1.0 device only.

Difference

HC does stand for High Capacity.

The best way to explain this is with DVD and Blue-ray.

DVD = SD Card
Blue-Ray = SDHC Card

Sure they look the same and most Blue-Ray Players can play DVDs also. But, you can't play a Blue-Ray disc with a DVD player.

This PDF might help:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

So, unless Garmin built SDHC readers into their device, your Garmin cannot use SDHC cards reliably.

Ok, so are we saying that a

Ok, so are we saying that a SDHC card is different from SD High Capactity card?

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

limitation

read the manual or contact support. I recall that nuvi supports only up to 4gb cards (i've tested this). I also recall that it only supports up to x amout of mp3s only. you might have too many mp3s on your list. sorry for the bad news.

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SDHC = officially follows SDA 2.0 protocol (its offically trademarked as well)

SD High Capacity could mean SDHC or it could be a marketing ploy.

I'm curious to know if the Nuvi 360 does have SDHC support.

SDHC

Im currently doing an experiment with the nuvi 360. im testing to see how much of the 8gb sdhc card can be filled before it starts to act out of wack.. I will get back to you

Nuvi MP3 player has a 1000 title limit

I've seen elsewhere here that the Nuvi's MP3 player has a 1000 title limit. I have 665 on a 4GB card - works dandy in my 660.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

sdhc

they are the same type. and there was an upgrade to make the high capacity cards work on the nuvi 360

8 gb SDHC card

Just bought a nuvi 360.
Any luck on which 8gb SDHC cards work? I have a 2 SD and want to upgrade to 4 or 8; or do I buy the 8 non-HC?

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Nuvi 360

I have a Patriot 8GB class 4

I have a Patriot 8GB class 4 SDHC card that works fine with my Nuvi 660.

From Garmin FAQ's

NUVI MODEL MAX SD CARD
2xx Series 2GB
350 2GB
360 and 370 4GB
6xx Series 4GB

Thanks for the info

Excellent. So I can keep my 2gb card.

ikeler wrote:

NUVI MODEL MAX SD CARD
2xx Series 2GB
350 2GB
360 and 370 4GB
6xx Series 4GB

SDHC explained

Here's a 1 page explanation of SDHC, its compatibility & class speed rating from SanDisk.

http://www.sandisk.com/sdhc/SDHC.pdf

P.S. Max SDHC capacity is 32GB

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stay safe

if u have a 360 or higher i would recommend not going pass 4gb.. after 4gb of memory mu nuvi 360 starts to act crazy. save your money go with the 4gb or get two 4 gb if u need that much room. just split your info up

4 GB SD

I have a 4 GB SD card in my Nuvi 660 with about 600 songs. Doesn't play any of them. When I go to the player, it doesn't show a single song. Am I doing something wrong? I formatted the card, and dragged the MP3s onto it. By the way, my computer shows that the songs are on the card.

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Create a folder called MP3 on the SD card. Put the MP3s in that folder on the SD card instead of them being in the root directory.

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip! I'll try that.

depends on who you talk to

I've called NUVI support and they told me the tested maximum is 2gb, but I'm currently using a 4gb card and it works fine. I also think there's a title limitation to 1000 songs. Before the new release it was less than that. I think the poster might have too many songs on his playlist.

It worked

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Create a folder called MP3 on the SD card. Put the MP3s in that folder on the SD card instead of them being in the root directory.

That worked! Thanks!

Didn't work

Ok... another problem. I put all my MP3s into the MP3 folder on the SD card and the Nuvi only shows 232 files when it's hooked up to the computer. When the SD is not hooked up to the Nuvi, there are 740 files on there. And the Nuvi still won't play any of them when I have that many files on the SD. I tried it with only 90 files in the SD, and the Nuvi worked fine. Any thoughts???

Are they all MP3 files?

They have to be specifically MP3 files. They can't be Windows media player files (*.wma), or iTunes files (*.m4a) - they have to be (*.mp3) in order to work on the the Nuvi.

If you have wma files, they can be converted to MP3; and if they're iTunes, you can burn those to an audio CD using the iTunes program, then take that audio CD and rip it to mp3.

I have a 4GB DS card with about 100 MB free on the card, and have 600+ titles of mp3 files - so I know it can be done -

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

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Is the card formatted FAT32?

agree

kch50428 wrote:

They have to be specifically MP3 files. They can't be Windows media player files (*.wma), or iTunes files (*.m4a) - they have to be (*.mp3) in order to work on the the Nuvi.

If you have wma files, they can be converted to MP3; and if they're iTunes, you can burn those to an audio CD using the iTunes program, then take that audio CD and rip it to mp3.

I have a 4GB DS card with about 100 MB free on the card, and have 600+ titles of mp3 files - so I know it can be done -

theonly supported format is mp3. I feel the pain whn i figured it out. kch50428 directions above works great.

I'll try again

Well, I'm pretty sure all the files are MP3s. I'll check again to make sure that no WAV files made it onto the SD card.

And yes, the card is formatted FAT32.

Thanks for the help!

Tried again and...

Well, made sure they are all MP3s and it still doesn't work. I also tried a 1 GB card that I had and I loaded it up with MP3s. Worked fine. I'm starting to thing it's the SD card, or the Garmin doesn't like the 4 GB SD.

8 gig card

The larger the gig the more power it requires to run. It may be that the 8 gig card is simply too much for the unit to handle and it just shuts down.
I have been using a 4 gig card for a while with many MP3 songs and also audio books and have had no problem. The only problem is that it seems that the battery runs down a little faster.

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Happy Trails

SDHC on Garmin nuvi 350

From Garmin Suport site:

Quote:

Question: What is the largest SD (Secure Digital) card that my nuvi can accept?
Answer:
As long as your nuvi has the most recent version of system software your nuvi will be SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) compatible. This means that there is no limitation to the size of SD card that your nuvi will accept.

To ensure that your unit has the most up to date system software please use our WebUpdater program.
Last modified on: 06/10/2008

Sorry...

findnmyway wrote:

The larger the gig the more power it requires to run.

Sorry, simply not true. Since the memory is static, the card itself takes ZERO power, as evidenced by the fact that the information stays intact when it is unplugged.....for long periods of time.

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So how good does the music

So how good does the music sound coming from a Nuvi?

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Depends on where it's heard

Tarkus wrote:

So how good does the music sound coming from a Nuvi?

Playing from the Nuvi's speakers, pretty poor. Heard through earphones or fed via cable into your car stereo aux input, just as good as any other MP3 player.

I have never tried the FM transmitter or cassette adapter options, so I can't comment on the quality.

Sub Folders

d0ofy wrote:

I have no music in root. Everything is in a MP3 subfolder with another subfolder for each band.

You are not supposed to use subfolders for mp3s just the single MP3 folder the fill it with MP3s

I have several levels of subfolders

ralphy1 wrote:

You are not supposed to use subfolders for mp3s just the single MP3 folder the fill it with MP3s

I have several levels of subfolders for my MP3's. And I have no problems whatsoever. It finds and plays them all.

Non sdhc 4 gig

asianfire wrote:
pitterchi wrote:

I bought a 4GB (non-SDHC) SD Card for my Nuvi 350 and it seems to work fine.

I thought that there was no such thing as a 4GB+ SD card that wasn't a SDHC. Am I wrong? I thought that currently, the highest that a SD card could go was 2GB and that the higher ones just used a new/different method of compression. I tried an off brand 4GB card of my co-workers and it worked fine. Not sure how the performance would be though. I just wanted to see if it would read and write to it and it did.

Hi Charlie, I asked Garmin about using SDHC cards and they told me that the unit might damage the card but the card would not damage the unit, So I hunted around and found a 4 Gig standard SD card (Non SDHC) so they do exist.

Using 8GB SDHC card with Garmin Nuvi 350 Works!

I tried many things with 4GB cards 2 years ago on my Nuvi 350 and nothing worked. I gave up and stuck with a 2GB card. 2 years later, today, I had a new Sanyo camcorder that records video to SDHC cards. So I bought an 8GB card for it. We also bought a 2nd Nuvi 350 this week. So I now had a 2 year old one and a new one.

Just for fun I put the 8GB card into the new Nuvi 350 (ver 5.6) and it worked! I then tried it in my 2 year old Nuvi 350 that's been updated to 5.2, and it ALSO WORKED!

I loaded about 3.5 GB of songs, 875 or so songs and it had no problems doing this. There was ONE strange behavior I should point out. When I used the menu to go to the mp3 songs, it would appear to be frozen or locked up for about 8 seconds. I think this is where most people assume their Garmin is locked up and they hit reset on the back. I was disappointed so I glanced over to the TV.. Then my attention came back and I noticed that the songs were all playable after trying the menus. I think what is going on is that it takes a little while for it to scan all those songs and there is a slight delay. But 8 to 10 secs on the 1st time loading the card isn't bad. The next time I turn on the unit, it's instant. In other words, I don't have to wait for anything. It seems to scan/catalog songs once and then it's happy. So before assuming it's locked up, wait. I also use class 4 memory, so that might have helped with making the delay not so bad.

But I've encountered no real problems using an 8GB card in either Garmin 350 as long as I had less than 1000 songs. Say 998 to be safe. But with over 1000, it still works, but just won't play all 1000. I made it under 1000 just in case it might confuse it. But so far no problems either way. So for all you Garmin 350 users who think it can't be done.. It can. If you run into a problem where it doesn't see the songs. Make sure you power totally down, and power back up. OR, take the card out while it's running to force it to recognize a change. Then power down, put the card in, power up. However, I have not needed to worry about this extra step I did in initial testing.

After my card is in, I just leave it there. I turn it on and it plays just fine for me. I know the 1000 song limit is roughly 4GB, but I will keep 8GB so I can put some very long one hour mp3's.. OR I can load more POI/maps etc. It's sad that the 1000 song limit is nothing more than a variable set that some programmer decided on arbitrarily. It used to be 500, but in a magic update became 1000.. If only they'd raise it to 2000 I'd be satisfied.. But hey, I now have double the songs I used to on my 2GB, so I'm pretty happy now. If someone knew where the memory location was, we could (maybe) hack our selfs our own update wink.