Phoenix cameras starting on Friday

 

State officials have decided to let the contract for over 100 cameras in the Phoenix area. The foirst mobile cameras are due on Friday with the fixed cameras to be installed later. Those of us in the Valley...get ready to send in those new locations. grin

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/09/23/20080923ph...

Sorry, Miss POI, you're going to have more work to do....

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Warning Distance for speed cameras

Just a thought about the warning distance on the speed cameras. I've used the speed camera file for a while now, but until tonight I haven't loaded the file showing any highway cameras. I was wondering how much warning we'll have and how the location of the warning. Any input?

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Warning distance

How much warning you have on a "SPEED" POI depends on how fast you are traveling and what the trigger point is. For example, if you're coming up on a speed POI that is set to trip at 65 MPH, you'll get more warning if you're currently traveling 80 than you would if you're traveling 70.

The trip point is set in the POI file (there are other ways to set this).

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Priceless

This information is priceless for those of us in the Phoenix area. Thanks to those of you with your feet on the street verifying the locations.

Our thanks

to everyone who continues to report the new cameras around Phoenix. And a BIG, BIG thanks to FPichon and Miss POI for taking the time in modifying the speed camera file for us all. We're vacationing from Alaska in the Phoenix area and the last thing we need is a "Smile you're on Candid Camera" picture smile

Thank you for pointing this out..

The coordinates are now revised to show the actual camera location for the 35th av camera.

We also revised the AZ SR 51 camera locations to reflect actual locations.

As we see the actual locations for the cameras, we are revising the database.
Stay tuned for revisions.

phoenix

I was in Phx the last couple of days,and I was so busy just trying not to get run over I really couldn't pin point where any of the speed cameras are,Thanks to you that can LOL

Spaz here in Gilbert...

Hi, I just reported the three cameras that recently went up on US 60 (WB) to Miss POI. I live in Gilbert - if I can help please let me know. Try emailing me at: itsuckstobeme13@yahoo.com

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Lower Speed Limit on I-10

I just traveled from Scottsdale on the 101, west on the 202 to west on the 10 to Avondale. Aside from the new cameras (not all seem to working just yet)and found a camera facing east and west in the center median just west of the 202 HOV ramp onto the I-10. More importantly, the speed limit in that area has been lowered to 55 mph!!

The new 55 mph exists until past 43rd Avenue in the west bound direction.

Some of the new cameras are located in the center median and not the side of the road as the "old ones" on the 101 in Scottsdale are.

Faster?

That is probably due to the width of the road and the left lanes being much faster than the right lanes. During rush hour monitoring the right lanes would be a waste of time. Even during the day when traffic is lighter the right lanes are still occupied by slower drivers and the left are filled with people in a hurry.

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Here is the list - now we

Here is the list - now we just need to start collecting the coordinates.

12 News
New DPS photo radar stationary camera locations
by Nicole McGregor - Oct. 14, 2008 09:51 AM
12 News Today
Drive slow or you'll pay for it. DPS has rolled out mobile cameras throughout the state, and they're now starting to put up stationary cameras too. The first nine wil be up and running by October 22nd (they're starred below). The other locations will follow. When finished, there will be a total of 60 stationary cameras and 40 mobile ones throughout Arizona. If you get a ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit, you'll pay $181.

Interstate 10
**Eastbound, I-10, 287th Ave.
**Eastbound, I-10, Miller
**Eastbound, I-10, Watson
Westbound, I-10, 91st Ave
East & West, I-10, 75th Ave
East & West, I-10, 59th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 35th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 43rd Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 27th Ave
East & West, I-10, 15th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 16th Street
Westbound, I-10, Buckeye
Westbound, I-10, 24th Street
Westbound, I-10, 40th Street
US 60
Westbound, US-60, Alma School
Westbound, US-60, Mesa Drive
Westbound, US-60, Gilbert Road
Interstate - 17
Southbound, I-17, 15th Ave
Southbound, I-17, 12th Street
Northbound, I-17, Thunderbird
Northbound, I-17, Bell Road
State Route - 51
Southbound, SR-51, Thomas Road
Southbound, SR-51, Highland Pkwy.
Southbound, SR-51, Bethany Home Rd.
State Route - 101
**Southbound, SR-101, McDowell Rd
**Southbound, SR-101, Indian School
**Southbound, SR-101, Bethany Home
North & South, SR-101, Glendale Ave.
Southbound, SR-101, Olive
** Eastbound, SR-101, 75th Ave
** Eastbound, SR-101, 59th Ave
** Eastbound, SR-101, 35th Ave
**Starred camera locations will be set up and taking pictures starting between October 17th and 22nd

Phase one of this Project is done

This part of the project has been completed, no one needs to drive around anymore looking for locations. All these locations are now in the file. Some of them still need some tweeking and fine tuning and Fphichon has sent me the info that I will be changing for next week's update.

Miss POI

We will open this up again once the next batch is announced.

Phoenix Area Cams..

Will radar detectors detect the mobile units?

I got a flash on the 101 and

I got a flash on the 101 and McDowell last night. I think i got busted. I have a Valentine 1 radar detector and there was no warning. Is that common? I am new to the radar detector and GPS community. I just downloaded the poi files into my nuvi 750. Will they automatically warn me when I approach or do I have to activate or turn something on?

Stationary Speed Cameras are NOT radar

Most stationary speed cameras in Phoenix are NOT radar. There are trip wires in the pavement. If you know where to look, you can see where the pavement has been patched when the trip wire was installed.

The POI will activate if POI notification is turned on in your GPS. They must be set up as "Speed" POI. See the FAQ if you have questions about this.

BTW, if you got busted, you'll know. When the cameras flash you, there is no doubt when you're the one they flash.

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Camera Locations for US 60 WB

Here's the new Cameras on Hwy 60 WB

The cameras are on both side of the road (WB travel only) since there are 6 lanes of traffic here. Posted speed is 65mph.
US 60 WB at Gilbert Rd: 33.386876,-111.789837

US 60 WB at Mesa Rd: 33.386625,-111.821423

US 60 WB at Alma School Rd: 33.386231,-111.85627

Please hold off on posting

Please hold off on posting locations in the forums. I have all these now.

Miss POI

Lower Speed Limit

Absolute wrote:

That is probably due to the width of the road and the left lanes being much faster than the right lanes. During rush hour monitoring the right lanes would be a waste of time. Even during the day when traffic is lighter the right lanes are still occupied by slower drivers and the left are filled with people in a hurry.

I get that for locating the cameras in the median. But it is important to note that the speed limit for all lanes has been reduced by 10mph to 55mph.

THANK YOU

To Miss POI and all the others who took the time to gather the information needed to create the POI's for all the new cameras in Phoenix and to update the file.

I'm fairly new to this and the informaiton garnered from this and other threads has been invaluable.

Please let me know what if any help I can provide in the future.

are the photo radar tickets

are the photo radar tickets just fines or are there points on your license also. I thought I read or heard somewhere that it was only a fine.

not me driving

phxsteele wrote:

are the photo radar tickets just fines or are there points on your license also. I thought I read or heard somewhere that it was only a fine.

I've also heard that if they can't prove it was you driving then its pretty easy to fight.

I wonder how well that'd work if the car was registered in my name and I rode shotgun. *shrug*

Freeway tickets are only fines

phxsteele wrote:

are the photo radar tickets just fines or are there points on your license also. I thought I read or heard somewhere that it was only a fine.

I also read that the freeway tickets are only fines. Apparently, if you are going over 85 mph, then you run the risk of your license being suspended, but a regular speeding ticket is "only" something like $185 fine.

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Hi, I am also from

Hi,
I am also from phoenix. If you need help in verification of cameras I would be glad to help.
Isn't it amazing from the map
http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/story.aspx?co...
The scottsdale experiment that started all this crap is now but gone so no speeding tickets in scottsdale but the disease has spread to phoenix and Glendale

Future

Those are just the cameras that were going up that week and the ones planned for the future. The Scottsdale cameras will be back online when the construction is finished. They are still rolling out the mobile freeway vans on that stretch so don't think your safe.

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There are also a lot motorcycle cops

Just a warning, but I've seen a lot of motorcycle cops patrolling the 101 area now that the cameras are down. Especially during rush hour in the mornings.

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I think this week's update will do it!!!!

I drove the routes yesterday and today to test the alerts and discover locations under construction, and tweaked some locations.

The sneaky devils hid a camera behind a Speed Limit sign (right where the speed changes) and hid cameras in the median on light poles at the same location! Those on the light poles were almost invisible!... and unexpected!

Some of the locations are staggered with some in the median, and a short distance later some on the right! You will see two alerts so as to not be caught off guard. If you get an alert and do not see a camera, look for the construction.

AZ - 51 Cameras (3 of them with Wrong MPH Indicated)

Currenty the cameras on the AZ - 51 state that they are 65 MPH cameras. They are actually in a 55 MPH zone. Can you please readjust the cameras to 55 MPH.

is there anyway to make the

is there anyway to make the alert on the screen larger. I would like the whole screen to flash red or something. Wity my radio up or windows down I cant hear the warning and my nuvi 750 is mounted low in the center console.

Any updates on mobile

Any updates on mobile location. One of my colleagues saw a mobile right after the tunnel I10 WB

mobile

nutcr0cker wrote:

Any updates on mobile location. One of my colleagues saw a mobile right after the tunnel I10 WB

I don't think you can really add the mobile locations because they change almost daily. Your best bet is to keep your eyes peeled for those Photo Enforcement Zone signs, they have to put those up even if its mobile. Most times they give you plenty of warning. Sometimes they don't though, so hit your break as soon as you see one.

Is it the law?

Edventure wrote:

Your best bet is to keep your eyes peeled for those Photo Enforcement Zone signs, they have to put those up even if its mobile.

Is this a law?

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The latest from AZ Central - 20 new ones fired up by end of week

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Thanks for your efforts, FPichon

FPichon wrote:

I drove the routes yesterday and today to test the alerts and discover locations under construction, and tweaked some locations.

Thanks, FPichon, for all your help. Those of us living and commuting in the traffic-laden Valley really appreciate it.

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DPS and Phoenix Speed Cameras

Permanent fixed warning signs have gone up in the areas around the fixed camera locations on the valley freeways. Beware that these signs will satisfy the requirements for warning signs for both the fixed cameras and the mobile vans (provided they are near the posted signs.) Also beware that the newest speed van versions now have cameras on both sides of the Ford Escape. This allows Redflex to place the van in the center median and catch speeders in both directions.
Also beware that the city of Phoenix has cut a deal with an unnamed vendor (probably Redflex) to ramp up their existing program. Currently they have 2 mobile units in addition to the redlight cameras. These units are placed around schools (not in the actual zone.) Scuttle from an inside source is that Phoenix will expand their program to mirror DPS's program in number of mobile and fixed units. That is a huge increase. No word on an implementation date as of yet.
PS. The first speed cameras in the U.S were used in Paradise Valley, AZ. They started this mess.

license plate holders

YMark wrote:
Edventure wrote:

Your best bet is to keep your eyes peeled for those Photo Enforcement Zone signs, they have to put those up even if its mobile.

Is this a law?

I can't find any documents to quote, but every time I've ever seen a speed camera, red light camera, or mobile parked on the side of the road there has been a sign. The speed and red light cameras usually have a normal street sign. The mobile ones always just have a short yellow construction type sign that says "photo enforcement zone" about a 1/4 mile before the van.

Like I said, I can't find proof buy I may be googling the wrong words. I'm assuming this is true though, since I've never seen a van without one of the signs.

At this point though, there seems to be a camera installed around every turn on the highways, so speeding seems almost pointless...speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down...

I'm considering one of those trick license plate holder that you can only view dead on and they distort the plate from the angle, although I don't know how well they work, I've heard good things though.

Or there's always this:
http://gizmodo.com/5069750/rc-license-plate-covers-are-a-tem...

Don't work

Edventure wrote:

I'm considering one of those trick license plate holder that you can only view dead on and they distort the plate from the angle, although I don't know how well they work, I've heard good things though.

Mythbusters busted them. They distort it pretty much from a sharp angle side view. The wider angled view the cameras take can see it just fine. Plus they are illegal to have equipped so if a cop sees it you will get stopped.

FPichon wrote:

I drove the routes yesterday and today to test the alerts and discover locations under construction, and tweaked some locations.

Does that mean the locations on the US 60 are going to be adjusted? Most of them are spot on but I think 2 (1 for sure) are off by quite a bit. I have it set to first warning 1/2 mile, second warning 1/4 mile and the second warning chimes after I have passed the cameras.

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Master Map?

Is there a "master map" on somewhere on this site that shows which traffic enforcment cameras have already been reported?
I looked around the site but did not find one.

You can also check out the

You can also check out the location of cameras on this site to use for your database.

http://www.azphotoradar.com/index.php

I am in East Valley so I can verify when the cameras go up on 202 Santan Freeway and I-10 (between Chandler blvd and downtown Phoenix).

At some point the units on the60 will

"Does that mean the locations on the US 60 are going to be adjusted? Most of them are spot on but I think 2 (1 for sure) are off by quite a bit. I have it set to first warning 1/2 mile, second warning 1/4 mile and the second warning chimes after I have passed the cameras."

Currently we are getting conflicting reports on the locations, especially at Gilbert rd., which is one of the two locations I had not been able to visit.

I had the opportunity today to drive by and made changes to the poi for the three locations.

File updated to the site

I decided to do a mid week update to the site because we had some speed limits wrong in some areas. If you have downloaded this file since updates were started you may want to change to the new file.

Miss POI

Early report on Metro Phoenix Camera Locations

Hi, I just joined this site and saw this thread. Hopefully the below information is helpful to someone until we can atleast get the fixed cameras identified and in POI format. The below list is from an email at work going around.
Good Luck,
TM

"Drive slow or you'll pay for it. DPS has rolled out mobile cameras throughout the state, and they're now starting to put up stationary cameras too. The first nine will be up and running by October 22nd (they're starred below). The other locations will follow.

When finished, there will be a total of 60 stationary cameras and 40 mobile ones throughout Arizona. If you get a ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit, you'll pay $181."

Interstate 10
**Eastbound, I-10, 287th Ave.
**Eastbound, I-10, Miller
**Eastbound, I-10, Watson
Westbound, I-10, 91st Ave
East & West, I-10, 75th Ave
East & West, I-10, 59th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 35th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 43rd Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 27th Ave
East & West, I-10, 15th Ave
Eastbound, I-10, 16th Street
Westbound, I-10, Buckeye
Westbound, I-10, 24th Street
Westbound, I-10, 40th Street

US 60
Westbound, US-60, Alma School
Westbound, US-60, Mesa Drive
Westbound, US-60, Gilbert Road

Interstate - 17
Southbound, I-17, 15th Ave
Southbound, I-17, 12th Street
Northbound, I-17, Thunderbird
Northbound, I-17, Bell Road

State Route - 51
Southbound, SR-51, Thomas Road
Southbound, SR-51, Highland Pkwy.
Southbound, SR-51, Bethany Home Rd.

State Route - 101
**Southbound, SR-101, McDowell Rd
**Southbound, SR-101, Indian School
**Southbound, SR-101, Bethany Home
North & South, SR-101, Glendale Ave.
Southbound, SR-101, Olive
** Eastbound, SR-101, 75th Ave
** Eastbound, SR-101, 59th Ave
** Eastbound, SR-101, 35th Ave

Yep, got 'em

Yep, FPichon has done a terrific job of capturing them.

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State wide fixed cameras?

Has anyone heard of any fixed cameras going up around the state besides the phoenix metro area? On a trip to El Paso a few months back, we ran into one of the mobile vans just inside the AZ border on I10. I have heard that DPS is going to put them up around the state, but haven't heard about locations. I know that there are some cameras on the Hwy from the I17 into Prescott Valley and Prescott, but I don't think those are through the state. I would Assume that Tucson will get a few.

AZ Central reporting on next batch of cameras

Here's a link to an article on azcentral.com about the next batch of cameras that will go up in the Phoenix area. Not a lot of new information yet.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/11/03/20081103sp...

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Speed and those plate covers

Remember in Arizona if you use a cover to block, distort or obscure your license plate you can be given a ticket for obstruction of plates.
If you are traveling above 85 MPH you can be ticketed for criminal speeding. And at 20 plus over the speed limit you can be ticketed for hazardous driving or reckless endangerment.

Thanks everyone -- as

Thanks everyone -- as someone living in the Phx area, I'm really grateful to everyone (especially Miss POI) in jumping through all the hoops adding ALL this new data to the files

Prescott Valley

" I know that there are some cameras on the Hwy from the I17 into Prescott Valley and Prescott, but I don't think those are through the state."

The database is current for Prescott Valley (I was there last weekend) .

At one time there was a discussion by local officials to place some on 89A between Prescott and Sedona, and by DPS on 93 between Phoenix and Kingman. Has anyone observed any on these routes?

Northbound, I-17, Thunderbird removed

They had it earlier however I checked y'day and it was gone

Regards

Criminal Speed

AZEqualizer wrote:

And at 20 plus over the speed limit you can be ticketed for hazardous driving or reckless endangerment.

There is no such statute in Arizona for hazardous driving. Reckless driving is on the books along with aggressive driving (which is a 5 charge citation to include reckless driving, a violation of any of the speed statutes, and three other enumerated charges.) Exceeding the speed limit by 21 or more mph is also considered criminal speed in Arizona in a business or residential district only. you have to exceed 85 mph in other places (including freeways) to be considered criminal speed. driving 76 on a 55 mph freeway is a civil violation only.

Prosecutors will not charge and judges will not convict for reckless endangerment on just speed alone. From the Arizona Revised Statutes:

13-1201. Endangerment; classification

A. A person commits endangerment by recklessly endangering another person with a substantial risk of IMMANENT death or physical injury.

There have been exceptions where reckless driving (misdemeanor) has been charged in cases of extreme speeds of well over 100 mph (happened in scotsdale.) This can be done as the law specifically identifies that the offense occurred while driving.In most cases the prosecutor or judge wants to see something more than just a speed violation to charge or convict for reckless (ie. unsafe lane changes, following too close, etc.)

28-693. Reckless driving; classification; license; surrender

A. A person who drives a vehicle in reckless disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.

info

this thread is a wealth of information to arizona drivers, especially those with a lead foot.

thank you everyone.

Some speed cameras not listed on the prior list

There is a new speed camera that was set up earlier this week at the I-10 west and I-17 N interchange (the first merge onto the 17 by the airport)The speed limit changes from 65 to 55. There is also one on the I-10 east and the I-17 interchange, it is before the lanes merge together and is pointed at the I-10. I also saw one on the 51-S highway just before Hayden. Hope that helps.

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