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I'm new to this forum, but am curious if anyone has any experience with the available camera devices, i.e. License tag sprays or tag covers available out there. If so any recommendations. I know RadarRoy (http://www.radarbusters.com/?source=rnet) has a few on his site for sale and others exist. Any field reports?

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Illegal in some states

Be carefull. Some of the polarised plate covers are illegal. My neighbor received a ticket. I'm in Maryland. YMMV.

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I think Veil was something

I think Veil was something that people used for laser guns, I'm not sure about plate covers.

As of now, none of the

As of now, none of the product available are effective in anyway.
1. Plate covers are illegal in some states.
2. Flash back device won't work with video camera.

The only thing I believe it will work is Foxplate - www.foxplate.com - 007 style.

Not sure when it will be available in US.

A local news station did a

A local news station did a "Deal or Dud" report on the sprays that you can put on your license plate to block the red-light cameras. They worked with the police and took pictures with the camera before the spray was applied and after. The pictures after the spray were actually much clearer and sharper than the non-sprayed. The news crew declared the product a dud, but the cop thought it was a deal because it actually made the city's work easier.

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Foxplate coming in december

According to their website, The Foxplate -007 style should be available in the US in December. It does not say which December 06, 07, 08?????

I wish it was Dec 06.

I wish it was Dec 06. Driving in Socal with RLC everywhere is a very dangerous thing. No, I am not running red light, just scared of the "very moment".

I wonder how the police will react with foxplate? I can't find any statute to fine me ....smile

Anti Photo devices

Judging by all the vehicles on the road here in the frozen tundra that is the Midwest, I would say that you get some calcium chloride and mix it with rock salt and spray it on your license plate or tag as they call it in other parts of the USA. I haven't seen a readable tag all week since the snow and ice hit!! smile

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Someone once told me that by

Someone once told me that by applying "aqua-net-pump" hair spray to the plate, that it will make the plate "invisible" to traffic cameras...........sounds fishy to me though.

MD Issues

I was pulled over in MD for having a clear plastic cover over my license plate, which apparently is illegal in MD. Fortunately, I got off with a warning

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I've heard

I've heard that the spray doesn't work. But this is according to the Boston Police as reported on a radio station in Massachusetts. Take that for what it's worth!

Spray

I have also head that the spray is worthless, along with the various radar jamming devises, which apparently are garbage as well.

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news article

following is a link to a recent article here in New England. Keep in mind that most if not all states have laws regarding the clarity of license plates. It has become an issue here in Providence as the city recently added several red-light cameras.

http://www.masslive.com/chicopeeholyoke/republican/index.ssf...

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haha I like your idea. I was

haha I like your idea. I was actually thinking the same thing. I can't see some of the plates on cars up here in the Northeast after a good night of snow.

Red light camera

Why do you need all the spray junk, mud and whatever if you do not run the Red Lights.

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Red light camera

They speed

roger, sometimes when you

roger, sometimes when you see that yellow light and you're right at the line you just don't want to stop

I've looked into all of the

I've looked into all of the products extensively. The overwhelming consensus is that they just don't work. It seems the only effective countermeasures are

1. Vote out the politicians that are allowing this BS
(working in a few places)

2. GPS POIs

The only issue I see with

The only issue I see with foxplate is the fact that some cities take a picture of the front of the car, others the back of the car. In CLT the redlight cameras take a pic of the back of the car.

The only issue I see with

The only issue I see with foxplate is the fact that some cities take a picture of the front of the car, others the back of the car. In CLT the redlight cameras take a pic of the back of the car.

FoxPlate

Awesome, the new FoxPlate looks awesome, i just dont see how any camera could get your plate numbers with this hooked up and working.

Slowdown

slowdown will save lives

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Legality of FoxPlate?

In Texas, it is illegal to block any part of the license plate. Recently the news has had several articles about the fact that many license plate holders block part of the license plate, such as the state emblem, etc. Even many benign license plate frames are illegal in this state.

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I think Foxplate is a great

I think Foxplate is a great idea. The only problem I have with it is that I wouldn't think to hit the button or flip the switch until it was too late. So it'd be cool to show off to friends.. but not very practical in my opinion.

cool invention

But, seems to me it's prime purpose is to evade the law. With the sole purpose to run red lights.
If someone was to enter an intersection during a red light - not purposely but perhaps due to inattention or distraction, no body is going to hit a switch under those circumstances.

Just seems ridiculous. Cool James Bondish invention none the less.

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anti photo camera spray

i think it's illegal if blocking any part of license plate by using any cover, but the spray in (spray123.com)is an invisible spray, sounds working, also it's on TV news and AS SEEN ON TV.

invisible spray

All the ones I've seen on TV and the TV news dud or deal sort of thing agree, the spray is invisible, and doesn't stop the cameras from getting a good picture.

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........Garmin StreetPilot c550 / Nüvi 765...........

Mythbusters

If you happen to be a Mythbusters (Discovery Channel) fan, they just had a segment on these. Check it out.

Invisible is the KEY word

raytec11 wrote:

i think it's illegal if blocking any part of license plate by using any cover, but the spray in (spray123.com)is an invisible spray, sounds working, also it's on TV news and AS SEEN ON TV.

LoL, Yes INVISIBLE, CLEAR, you can see throught it. It doesn't work.
If you want something that works in a spray, use a colored spray paint. LoL... Invisible spray!!

Gotta Love it!

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........Garmin StreetPilot c550 / Nüvi 765...........

Some posts here seem a bit Hypocritical

I find it interesting that a number of posters deride folks for asking about license tag spray or covers, assuming anyone interested in these devices just wants to speed through and not get caught. Meanwhile they are on a site that posts locations of radar traps and photo red lights. I suppose they use this information to discuss over the water cooler at work..Not to adjust their driving habits..In Virginia these lights were outlawed but are now coming back. One down the street has a about a two second yellow light and is probably a great revenue maker for the city. Sometimes it's more dangerous trying to stop than continuing on. So your choices are .. have an accident or get a ticket..

I think there is a difference

I think there is a difference between people asking for legal information about the location of cameras and speed traps so that they can be aware of these locations and adjust their driving if necessary and people asking about illegal substances and so forth to block their license plates.

Everyone who travels in southeastern Virginia has long known that Emporia is a speed enforcement zone. And everyone warns each other not to speed in this area. Sharing these locations is the same. And is legal.

However, I, for one, would hope that the discussion of illegal activities does not occur on this forum.
.

There is a difference

WELL SAID Motorcycle Mama.

joemac

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Don't waste your money on sprays / covers...

BumgarnerS wrote:

If you happen to be a Mythbusters (Discovery Channel) fan, they just had a segment on these. Check it out.

Just watched this and -- basically -- every attempt to mask with spray or cover failed to be effective. So what is effective? IMHO people who often drive faster than the speed limit should consider:

* A high quality radar detector (Valentine 1, Escort, etc)
* Using POI data in the GPS to alert for common speed traps
* Investing in a laser shifter because laser detectors don't provide warning

All of these are currently legal in most states.

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Check these links out..... I

Check these links out..... I wrote a lot about this stuff and just figured I would post the link. Also, ttime4four is giving some good advice. Sprays are worthless, look into other counter measures.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1942

and

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1915

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Slow down

alandang wrote:

slowdown will save lives

I agree. Riding a motorcycle in rush hour traffic is bad enough, but then some crazy driver goes blasting past everyone weaving in and out of traffic. And I'm not talking about the majority of motorcycles here. Most of the time is teen trying to make it to school in there little Honda civic, or something of the sort. I will admit that some motorcycle riders do drive really stupid weaving in and out of traffic at high speeds. there are just as bad.

The difference eludes most.

Nevermind, no point.

NYC License Plate Covers

In NYC it is absolutely against the law to cover your license plate. That being said this law is almost never enforced. The few times I have seen anything written about tickets being issued for this violation, were for some overzealous (trying to make quota) idiot parking violation agents issuing tickets for having the edge of a plate frame covering a small amount of writing at the bottom of the plate. All of these tickets were dismissed by the POV if the poor victim took the time to go and fight the ticket.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

PhotoBlocker Spray

There have been a number of TV news segments that have shown the effectiveness of the spray. If you are being photographed with a camera that uses a flash, the product has a high likelihood of working. Since all it is doing is creating a reflection of the light back into the lens of the camera, a coating of high gloss synthetic coating used on furniture or wood flooring will work just as well at a much reduced cost.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

Photoblocker Applicatrions

And if the application is designed to refelct the light of the flash, thereby making the plate unreadable, won't it do the same when the LEO's headlights, or even just any other vehicle's headlights, shine on your plate and thereby blow your cover??

Plate Covers

The plate covers in Illinois are illegal now because of the reflection off of these type of covers. It use to be just tinted covers but now clear ones are included. It is very rarely enforced unless the state is enforcing it. Most cops don't even know they have included clear plates in the law.

Good for the Gander, Good for the Goose?

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

I think there is a difference between people asking for legal information about the location of cameras and speed traps so that they can be aware of these locations and adjust their driving if necessary and people asking about illegal substances and so forth to block their license plates.

Everyone who travels in southeastern Virginia has long known that Emporia is a speed enforcement zone. And everyone warns each other not to speed in this area. Sharing these locations is the same. And is legal.

However, I, for one, would hope that the discussion of illegal activities does not occur on this forum.
.

Ummm...warning each other of the location in real time would seem to my small mind to be an obstruction of justice, thus illegal activity that you'd like to see kept off the board wink

Regards, Ted

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"You can't get there from here"

+1

Maxthrottle wrote:

I find it interesting that a number of posters deride folks for asking about license tag spray or covers, assuming anyone interested in these devices just wants to speed through and not get caught. Meanwhile they are on a site that posts locations of radar traps and photo red lights. I suppose they use this information to discuss over the water cooler at work..Not to adjust their driving habits..In Virginia these lights were outlawed but are now coming back. One down the street has a about a two second yellow light and is probably a great revenue maker for the city. Sometimes it's more dangerous trying to stop than continuing on. So your choices are .. have an accident or get a ticket..

Live and let live, no?

Regards, Ted

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I've never heard of a police

I've never heard of a police officer giving tickets for that.

Photoblocker Applications

bdwyman wrote:

And if the application is designed to reflect the light of the flash, thereby making the plate unreadable, won't it do the same when the LEO's headlights, or even just any other vehicle's headlights, shine on your plate and thereby blow your cover??

The human eye and a camera lens do not react the same way.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

One way to beat the speed

One way to beat the speed camera is to go like 130mph and it wont catch you, but good luck going that fast without a cop noticing ^_^

Mythbusters did an episode

Mythbusters did an episode on this topic a while back and NOTHING beat the cameras.....NOTHING.

Yes I can confirm. I've seen

Yes I can confirm.
I've seen another test on TV and they found a way to beat the camera.
Was using a very big (3ft x 3ft) mirror well oriented that was able to reflect the flash.

But I guess is pretty unusual (and illegal) driving a car with a 3ft mirror stand (vertically) on the car!

Bye

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Red light cameras

Here in Southeastern Virginia my GPS alarm goes off like three times a trip to stores or whatever.My Son says they only work at SCHOOLS and around Kids playgrounds. Also I've read in the paper the argueing over the legality of using them between the republians and the democrates. I see them up all over the place and like I said my GPS is always sounding the alarm. I can,t see them spending all that money installing them and then not using them.

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Scooter, there are currently

Scooter, there are currently no working redlight cameras in the Commonwealth of Virginia. There were 4 in Virginia Beach as a trial program. But that program expired. The General Assembly recently signed a new law allowing them again. But none are in place at this time. If you are getting alerts from your POI file for redlight cameras in Hampton, they aren't red light cameras.

Virginia...

I have been adding cameras like crazy that will be installed over the spring and summer for Virginia, he may be getting alerts for future locations.

Miss Poi

delta123, I found your statute!

delta123 wrote:

I wish it was Dec 06. Driving in Socal (snip)
I wonder how the police will react with foxplate? I can't find any statute to fine me ....smile

Excerpts from California Vehicle Code Section 5201:

5201. License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from swinging, shall be mounted in a position so as to be clearly visible, and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible.

(g) No casing, shield, frame, border, or other device that obstructs or impairs the reading or recognition of a license plate by a remote emission sensing device, as specified in Sections 44081 and
44081.6 of the Health and Safety Code, shall be installed on, or affixed to, a vehicle.

All told, it isn't high on the enforcement radar of any agency I am familiar with in SoCal...and I work for one of the largest.

That (g) section relates to remote emission sensing cameras, used to identify gross polluting cars and trucks...but it could be applied in the case of red light cameras. Evading one camera is the same as another.

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