Anyone killing travel due to Covid-19?

Yep.

I had to cancel my April planned cruise from Ft. Lauderdale to Copenhagen, Denmark via Portugal (Azores - Ponta Delgada); Brest & LeHavre, France; and Skagen, Denmark.

I'm in the high-risk category.

Well, after I canceled, the cruise line canceled all their cruises.

Now the object is to try and get back any 'no refund' pre-payments for air travel from Europe and Copenhagen hotel.

Gary Hayman
70 cruises
http://ghayman.net

We are cancelling a trip to Florida for the end of the month. In addition we have several VRBO renters who are cancelling their vacation rentals in Marathon and Isle of Palms. Although the media has hyped up this virus, people should take the illness seriously. There are several healthy people who have been infected with CV19 and are in ICU on life support. Better safe than sorry.

Our next scheduled trip is a month long camping trip. My wife "collects" US National Parks and we only have just over half of them so far. We plan to visit a few more on this trip. Hopefully all of the government panic doesn't close down the parks. They've closed all of the pubs here in California. We usually make a point of visiting local brew pubs when we travel so it would be a bummer if they close everywhere.

We don't travel until mid-April so we will see how things are at that point. We have 33 days of cruising around Southern Australia and New Zealand scheduled for November/December. Hopefully that isn't cancelled either.

Limiting travel minimally, although I think for most people this virus is overly hyped. Sure if you are in a high risk group you want to proactively avoid. The rest, you will get over it. Nobody likes to be sick, but welcome to the real world. As we become over populated, this will occur more and more frequently. The next time if could be deadly if exposed. This is not that, count your blessings and relax. Many are purchasing 12-18 months worth of supplies and food which is ridiculous panic. Lighten up and live your life. To quote an old saying get busy living or get busy dying.

Lab results found that the coronavirus (COVID-19) remained virulent on surfaces from up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. It also stayed viable aloft in the air for up to three hours.

The above information is shocking when you think about who last touched whatever you touch. Was that person that last touched a door handle or gasoline pump handle before you touched it infected with the coronavirus? How about the groceries and supplies that are on the grocery store shelves? That bag of food or pizza box you have delivered? How about the people that prepared that food? How about the pharmacy drive-thru window attendant that hands you the bag of your prescription drugs? How about the mailman that delivers your mail that you will be touching? The list goes on-and-on...

The only sure way to avoid being infected with the coronavirus is to self-isolate (quarantine), and even then you start out not knowing if the groceries and supplies you just bought in preparation of your self-isolation might be contaminated with the coronavirus on the cans, glass, paper, plastic or cardboard.

It is recommended that anyone age 65 or older self-isolate. This includes anyone with medical issues, especially pertaining to the heart or lungs. How long should people self-isolate? No one knows!

Not going to Kentucky as planned in April, but will still try to get out occasionally for some fresh air and sunshine.

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it's the dog's fault

At the earliest it is expected things won't start (begin) getting back to normal until July, August or September. And, that is when things start getting back to normal, not when things are normal again. Some experts think that timeline is too soon, and its many months further out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLpyklFEahs

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I need to make a run to the pharmacy and grocery store tomorrow ... I hope there will be something left there to buy. I am planning to wear gloves. I would wear a face mask if I had one, but I don't so I will just have to take my chances on that. This week is spring break week for the K12 schools here, and the governor has asked them to stay closed for at least a month. I would guess a lot of families have cancelled their spring break trips as so many things are closed.

Not much choice. Can't risk flying or getting on a cruise. If you drive, many restaurants are closed. Sports are shut down. Don't want to risk a hotel that might not have sufficient sanitation.

Have to avoid crowds, so what's left.

Canada just stopped all international flights. If you show any symptoms, they won't let on a plane to come home.

► https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

This is an hour and a half interview with a highly respected doctor whose life work has been infectious diseases. I found it to be a lot more interesting than most movies being turned out today, especially in light of current events regarding COVID-19. He touches on a few other diseases and that also was interesting but always back to COVID-19.

If you have any doubt whether the video is worth watching - Just look at the number of views this video has received.

10,861,576 views since March 10, 2020!!! And 170,000 Likes!

Canceled a trip for next weekend.

... so no trips were affected. My condolences to those who had to cancel theirs, but hopefully you'll be able to enjoy them at a later time.

Aren't they all?

to a half-marathon in Kansas City in April but it has been cancelled.

Been planning for trip to southern France, Riviera & Provence, for middle of June. It is now officially "up in the air." (Only if planes are flying) Will have to decide later if we will go. Too many questions at the moment.
We would be going just after the Monaco Grand Prix and the Cannes Festival finish. If they get cancelled, there will be no question. If not, then people would be feeling more safe and the trip may still happen. Fingers crossed.

staying close to home. we had been going to local businesses but now everything is closed. Even have to work from home. going stir crazy.

No Tuesday $5 senior buffet at the casinos here in Las Vegas.

Our planned one-week May trip to the Smokies (staying in a VRBO-rental cabin in Gatlinburg with another couple, all four of us in high-risk category/ies) is looking very much in doubt to me, but no consensus decision from the four of us as yet. We would lose money if this happened; there was a 50% deposit.

Today my home county, Dare County on the northern Outer Banks of North Carolina, became AFAIK the first USA county to ban entry to visitors, effective immediately. How can they enforce this? one might ask. There are only four roads/bridges in or out of our primarily island-based county, so it's relatively easy to restrict access with a dozen police officers, 24/7. Residents, non-resident owners, and non-resident employees can enter with documentation including re-entry permits issued for hurricanes or other proof of status, but visitors, while they do not have to evacuate if they're already here, will no longer be admitted.

I think the county did this for two reasons. People freed from work and school obligations were heading to this tourist destination, in part in response to new ads from rental agents, and the one hospital in the county only has about 20 beds and is expected to fall short of demand meeting residents' needs let alone visitors'.

But it's created a predictable firestorm with a few visitors who left the county yesterday or this morning and got trapped out, away from possessions or family and no way to get back in, since it was implemented without warning (unlike in hurricanes).

Also many people with prepaid spring or summer vacations here may well be out their money, as prepaid rental contracts are usually non-refundable. Even if they bought optional rental insurance, their policies generally cover mandatory hurricane evacuations but don't cover this particular risk, and they're reporting hearing "no" when they ask if this is covered.

Most people who bought travel insurance for flights, cruises, hotels, and excursion trips, are finding if they just don't want or even if they can't go, that they have no coverage for COVID-19, unless they have medical documentation proving that a party member was sick at the scheduled time of the trip. If a rental or travel insurance policy doesn't say a particular risk is covered, it's not covered. Pandemics generally aren't covered. If a policy says you can cancel for any reason, that's different, but most policies don't say that and cost much more if they do.

Put the brakes on an eight flight trip around the country. Pretty depressing but it's even more depressing to see how the economy is going to turn out from all this. I'm in contract selling a home right now and that appears to be on hold too.

The herd is stampeding and all the lemmings are following.

Panic is in full swing.

Chicken Little started yelling "the sky is falling" and soon all the TV talking heads followed along.

Our elected nannys soon upped the ante and shut everything down. Now Economy is taking a nose dive.

People are not getting paid, but of course that's OK, because the taxpayers are going to foot the bill.

Food is disappearing from shelves. TP too? Oh no, what to do?

Resturants are ordered closed. Has anybody given any thought to the fresh food in warehouses that will be spoil?

But at least I won't have to take a cruise with all the sick people, or be confined in a plane with them, or stand in lines with people.

Yep, panic has come..... Now let's hope the sick don't turn into Zombies... But at least we have a lot of Zombie movies to watch as a guildebook on how to survive. Hurry up and get your copies now.

Shaking head, but unable to see the logic.

Has nobody actually looked at the CDC actual cases numbers?
Nope, panic!

We weren't planning to restrict travel, but then our granddaughter became sick as did another daughter (they are in different states and cities). So while we are currently OK those who we were anticipating to visit have colds of an unknown origin.

Collateral damage. Several people we know, who had pre-planned travel had their travel canceled this week.

We visited Walmart to pick-up a few missing items. Turned out we spent a record amount there. I wonder if that was a subjective unnecessary reaction.

We cruised by the paper products and health care supplies to see if the empty shelves rumors were true. They were. Fortuitously, we had bought a bunch of these items (normal as needed buying) before the virus outbreak created panic buying. So we are good-to-go for a while.

US/Canada Border is being closed to non-essential travel. Commercial vehicles and those travelling for work.

Citizens returning home to their respective countries, are also exempted.

Be prepared for long lineups at the border.

The wife was in Walmart today and experienced the same empty paper product shelves. A person in the checkout line managed to score the last bottle of rubbing alcohol and another shopper offered to trade her 2 rolls of TP for it!

Apparently, toilet paper currency is the new "thing"!

If this continues we will see toilet paper on all tables instead of chips and cash at Las Vegas casinos. Btw, all LV hotels and casinos are temporarily closed.

Conference in first week of April cancelled.

Actually, I look at them regularly.
I commend to your attention the daily situation report published by the World Health Organization.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...
In particular, the Italian development has given many thoughtful people real concern.

Actually we're staying home, but if we had to be on the road, our RV is a pretty safe place. We never use public rest rooms and can, pretty much, not get out where people are gathered. We could use Walmart's grocery pick-up to avoid going in the store. I would have to interact somewhat when checking into an RV park, but could wear a mask and gloves. When fueling, I would use pay at the pump when possible and use mask otherwise.

My wife is in the most extreme risk group, so I have to keep her safe and myself too, since I should not bring it to her.

Soo... I guess we'll just sit this one out at home base. If it goes on too long, maybe we will do a one tank ride around and not get out period. One tank = 150 gallons of Diesel.

Muell9k wrote
I too have been checking actual case numbers on a daily basis.
Since I fall into the high risk group I am interested in monitoring the situation.
I can't verify how accurate this site is.
I found it to be very informative of the number of countries the virus has affected. It is updated daily.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Thanks to archae86 and muell9k for the coronavirus links.

We just got back from our cruise. Even though our ship was safe, it was hard to get back to the states. Our ship went out of water in January to be refurbished and we were the first and only cruise on it since the coronavirus scare. San Juan wouldn't let us get back in, so we had to go to Miami. Lots of cancelled flights, but we finally made it home. We definitely came back to a strange new world, to say the least. Hope everyone stays safe

Jonathan has been visiting worldmeters and this one frequently. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

As for trips. We've cancelled all of ours until at least October.
I'm currently staying with my mom since she lives alone and is considered part of the more vulnerable population due to pre-existing health issues.

Jonathan is bringing us supplies but we don't need much.
If we run out of TP we can raid her crafting supplies. That alone could last us a year or two!
Definitely a new way of living for awhile.

~Angela

Just finished canceling all in person calls for next 30 days, most were part of a trip west.
Hunkering down for the time being.

when traveling by car, I usually carry disinfectant wipes, disinfectant sprays, regular wipes, latex/vinyl gloves, and small rolls of toilet paper, this was before the current. the rest rooms I used were cleaner when I left than before.

Was planning on 2 trips Tennessee and South Carolina

We were supposed to go on a river cruise in France at the end of April, beginning of May.

With everything that has been going on, my wife still wanted to go. Thankfully (my feeling), the cruise company suspended operations from March 12 through April 30th which took the decision out of our hands.

We will be heading out in a class A motor home as soon as we can. Hoping for 4 or 5 weeks on the road (depending on the house sitter.)

I'm 75, have COPD and have a heart condition. So I guess I'll be hunkered down at home till this is all over - which may or may not be quite a while. Guess I'll be working on the Bank of America file quite a bit.

Angela, it's great you are staying with your mom. You will be able to help her avoid trouble.

We have been staying home for three days so far and are already climbing the walls. All activities have been cancelled. The weather is warming up so we can get outside for a walk. We cheerfully greet other people from a distance.

We have a freezer full of food and restaurants have been closed by the governor. Several of them are delivering, so we plan on supporting them. For Sunday breakfast, we will have french toast and sausage with maple syrup. Weight Watcher points are out the window! This is an emergency!

dobs108

to visit daughter

Exponential growth is a pattern of data that shows greater increases with passing time, creating the curve of an exponential function. On a chart, this curve starts slowly, remaining nearly flat for a time before increasing swiftly as to appear almost vertical. It follows the formula:

V = S * (1 + R) ^ T

The current value, V, of an initial starting point subject to exponential growth, can be determined by multiplying the starting value, S, by the sum of one plus the rate of interest, R, raised to the power of T, or the number of periods that have elapsed. (thanks to James Chen - Investopedia)

This has been the pattern of this infection the world over. None of us not yet infected have immunity.

Arizona trip just cancelled. NC trip cancelled, too.

Some companies seem more on top of things than others.

When I stopped for gas at the local Costco two weeks ago they already had staff at the pumps wiping down the pump handles after every usage.

- Tom -

Be safe out there....may be a long road.

As an educated reasonable senior citizen and therefore at risk i am limiting outings...i am following the science, including the cdc. I am especially concerned that government messaging and preparation has been inconsistent and ineffective. I am also cocerned for the majority of americans who dont have many safetynets...and the healthcare workers, my colleagues, who are at risk because of ppe and other necessities in short supply. Stay healthy and safe

It's madness over in the UK. We have the panic buying and have done so for weeks, haven't seen a toilet roll for days. As the whole aisle is empty, as soon as a palette comes out, it is stripped. The stores have set certain hours for vulnerable or at risk groups only, plus the hospital staff, but selfish people ignore this and go in anyway.
We have a so-called online newspaper that just loves exaggerating the truth and if they say there is going to be a shortage of paracetamol, the shelves are stripped! They then tell the elderly that 5 million of them are going to die and all hell breaks loose.
Pubs and bars are shut, they have just shut national and local parks and public transport services are being slashed. Not a good place to be and I am looking forward to my two months plus of enforced staying at home! Discovered the lady living in my house is my wife and had to talk to her yesterday!! Stay safe.

Over 60, diabetic, morbidly obese, high blood pressure, and shortness of breath without having the virus. I am in the at risk category too. Other than work shutting down I haven't stopped doing my normal routine, like taking my dog out or a trip to the store for groceries, if they have any. I've never been much for crowds so a 10 person limit, social distancing is something I do anyway. But my situational awareness is always at a peak, even more so now.