Anyone killing travel due to Covid-19?

 

I won the lottery for a trip to The Wave this summer. I will be going! I am driving though, so my chance of exposure should be lower than those flying or riding in a tin tube with the general public. Let's hear from the crowd.

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Congrats on your win. Is

Congrats on your win. Is that the Wave in AZ? I hope this thing is under control long before summer arrives. In the meantime, I'm not traveling anywhere except to get to work and buy groceries. Am I scared? Not really but I'm doing my part to protect myself as well as others. Remember, this virus can spread to others even when it is asymptomatic.

Yes, That Wave

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(Arizona)

Won last year in person after trying online for a few months. This year we won in advance. So much easier to plan a trip when you don't have to camp out in the area of the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) office.

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Arizona in summer?

I guess since it's in Northern Arizona, not as much of a furnace in summer? Looks like you're within driving distance of the Grand Canyon and a day from Vegas.

Crowds?

camerabob wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(Arizona)

Won last year in person after trying online for a few months. This year we won in advance. So much easier to plan a trip when you don't have to camp out in the area of the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) office.

Well, for sure you won't be in a crowd of people potentially infected with COVID-19.

Basically Flagstaff

doug r wrote:

I guess since it's in Northern Arizona, not as much of a furnace in summer? Looks like you're within driving distance of the Grand Canyon and a day from Vegas.

I have found the Flagstaff weather in July to be quite comfortable. It may touch the mid-80's in the afternoon but the humidity is quite low so it can be comfortable.

Sedona as well is nice; take a pink jeep ride!

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Cancellations galore

Wife was going to accompany grandson for school sponsored spring break trip to DC next week. Been wondering why they hadn't canceled before now, but DC mayor declared a state of emergency today. Took that one off of the calendar.

Then trip to Hawaii for our 50th includes a 7 day cruise of the islands the 1st week of April. Got an email from the cruise line yesterday, those of us over 70 have to present a certificate of fitness to travel signed by our doctors before they will let us board. Preexisting condition where COVID-19 could be bad nixes that. Right now they are offering a credit for a future cruise in the next 12 months, but no refund. I'm waiting to see if the governor of Hawaii bars cruise ships from docking in the islands and that may force them to offer a refund as they can't fulfill their part of the contract, unless there's some legal stuff buried in there. So that also needs me to make cancellations on hotels, flights and excursions. Already checked with the trip insurance; they have a pandeminc clause that takes them off the hook, but they are offering to refund the amount paid for the insurance, maybe.

Was planning an extended road trip with another RV couple to Alaska this summer. Gas is getting cheap right now, but I can see things getting crazier and a chance of an unexpected border crossing issue, especially if any of us are running a fever. Worst case scenario is if we get stuck in Alaska with our RV and they won't let us into Canada to return home. So maybe we'll see the USA this summer and go to state parks with low population densities.

Hoping the worst of this is over in the next 30 to 60 days.

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No trip

I had planned to go to Egypt and Iran, but when the General got killed and shortly after the plane got shot down, made up my mind not to go. Now with Iran one of the hotbeds of the virus I'm glad I didn't pursue a trip there.

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Not exactly

Not that I've been planning on traveling internationally, but I haven't put off going anywhere. March 1st I just got back from Salt Lake City attending RootsTech.

That said, I have had some events that were cancelled because of Covid-19.

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Disney World?

I"m wondering why any of the big amusement parks haven't announced a temporary closure yet. A lot of grandparents take the kids to these places, particularly on the upcoming spring break. They certainly could be incubators as there are so many people and all the contact surfaces on the rides. I can't image them wiping down every ride between unload and reload. The lines would be horrible. It would be my choice to take them somewhere else this spring, but not every thinks this way.

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TXRVer wrote:

I"m wondering why any of the big amusement parks haven't announced a temporary closure yet. A lot of grandparents take the kids to these places, particularly on the upcoming spring break. They certainly could be incubators as there are so many people and all the contact surfaces on the rides. I can't image them wiping down every ride between unload and reload. The lines would be horrible. It would be my choice to take them somewhere else this spring, but not every thinks this way.

Just saw this on the news while having lunch less than 1 hour ago. Anaheim, CA Disneyland will be closed starting this weekend until the end of March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/business/disneyland-coron...

event cancelled

I had planned to travel from Albuquerque to the Bay Area to spend a weekend singing Renaissance music with a couple of dozen like-minded folks at the end of March.

As the median age would probably have been about eighty, that would have meant putting over a score of highly vulnerable people together in close proximity for many hours. Had any of us turned out to be a carrier, it could have been quite bad. Anyone coughing would probably have been very uncomfortable and given our ages and the season, several of us would have been coughing.

So the organizers were probably right to cancel the event.

Sadly I saved a few bucks on the motel room getting a completely non-refundable rate, so I'm out that. The other expenses are refunded, assuming I travel on Southwest in the next year.

Had they not cancelled, I'd have gone. Life is not risk-free.

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Definitely A Consideration

Plans are in turmoil because of the CV-19. We were planning on going to Alaska, but air travel makes that a very bad idea. Will wait this out and see.

The experts have predicted this will run about 3-6 months, and worse if the USA remains the most negligent regarding testing.

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I haven’t cancelled anything...

...and don’t plan to do so. The flu is worse than the coronavirus and I haven’t cancelled anything because of that so I really don’t see any reason to cancel anything because of the current outbreak. I could be wrong, but I think that this is being completely blown out of proportion.

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Road Scholar XLD

All Road Scholar (the new name for Elderhostel) is cancelling all programs worldwide through the end of April for now, effective immediately.

No time off until August

If COVID19 is still a problem then missing a trip will be the least of my worries.

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Many hotels are now

archae86 wrote:

I had planned to travel from Albuquerque to the Bay Area to spend a weekend singing Renaissance music with a couple of dozen like-minded folks at the end of March.

As the median age would probably have been about eighty, that would have meant putting over a score of highly vulnerable people together in close proximity for many hours. Had any of us turned out to be a carrier, it could have been quite bad. Anyone coughing would probably have been very uncomfortable and given our ages and the season, several of us would have been coughing.

So the organizers were probably right to cancel the event.

Sadly I saved a few bucks on the motel room getting a completely non-refundable rate, so I'm out that. The other expenses are refunded, assuming I travel on Southwest in the next year.

Had they not cancelled, I'd have gone. Life is not risk-free.

changing their cancellation policies you really should call them and press the issue.

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Not me

TMK wrote:

Many hotels are now changing their cancellation policies you really should call them and press the issue.

I took the risk consciously when I made the reservation. I made a wager with the future, and this time I lost. I can afford it. They owe me nothing. As their business drops like a stone on the surface of the Moon, they need the money far more than I do.

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I did ...

Lot's of stuff cancelling because of this covid-19 virus.

I cancelled a trip to Popeye's Chicken. ;p

Realistically though, we've had many scares in the past but none has hit this close to home. The next county over from me has 13 cases of covid-19 and most of the businesses and schools have closed due to it. People are emptying store shelves of everything like there's a blizzard on the way. Anything that involved a gathering of a lot of people has been cancelled, including major sporting events.

I have to admit it does have me nervous and if I had plans to travel I'd been real hesitant. In fact I have a colonoscopy scheduled at a hospital in that county next to mine the end of next month. I'm not sure if I'll go if this hasn't cleared by then. My age puts me in the high risk for problems if I caught the damn thing.

I saw the hysteria first hand this morning. Work was rained out today so I figured I'd make a run to BJ's Wholesale Club, no panic buying, just every so often stuff I'd normally get on a weekend there. They open the doors at 9:00am, they are normally very punctual. I arrived at around 9:08am, there was a line, a very long line, like they were giving stuff away for free kind of line, and they'd been open for 8 minutes already, the entire huge parking lot was full. Amazing.

Needless to say, I cancelled this trip too.

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I know someone who was

I know someone who was scheduled for a trip to Italy & Cruise in 2 weeks...

Obviously NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

Both Carnival and Viking has cancelled all cruises for next 2 months...

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Haven't Decided

We're planning a trip to Colorado & Utah in early May to hike the National Parks. My wife and I are seniors but have no underlying health issues. I purchased non refundable airline tickets but all other reservations can be cancelled at no cost. The airline waived the change fees and will let me reschedule the flights.

At this point, we haven't decided whether to reschedule or not. It will depend on how much worse the situation gets in the next month or so.

No big trips planned but,

The Scouts Scouting for food drive cancelled as did a Cub Pack pinewood derby. Also cancelled was a Scout trip in April break to Gettysburg. I hope this gets cleared up quickly and before the Summer Camps start.

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Just mt theory on cancellations

TXRVer wrote:

Wife was going to accompany grandson for school sponsored spring break trip to DC next week. Been wondering why they hadn't canceled before now, but DC mayor declared a state of emergency today. Took that one off of the calendar.

Worst case So maybe we'll see the USA this summer and go to state parks with low population densities.

I think most organizations are holding back on cancellations until a government organization declares some form of warning. At that time, the school authority simply becomes the messenger. I know of one circumstance here (SE Pennsylvania) where a group of about 50 were meeting in early April The cancellation drop dead date was 60 days out, the first week of February. All these closures and ramifications were not anticipated then and now the facility will not make any refunds for cancellation because it is less than 60 days. I advised the organization to just sit it out. They essentially have lost the deposit ($500) but we are next door to Montgomery county Pennsylvania which is under governor declared lockdown. So far our county (Chester) is CV free, but that may change and of course the governor may do a lockdown there as well, almost insuring that refunds be issued. Unfortunate that the restaurant is that greedy in these times, but social media will see them “flamed” by many individuals.

On your possible trip out west, do give serious consideration; places like Rapid City (Mt. Rushmore), Jackson Wyoming, Salt Lake, etc. are waiting. I’ve never found them overly busy (by east coast comparisons) and all are wonderful to visit.

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maddog67 wrote:

...and don’t plan to do so. The flu is worse than the coronavirus and I haven’t cancelled anything because of that so I really don’t see any reason to cancel anything because of the current outbreak. I could be wrong, but I think that this is being completely blown out of proportion.

The coronavirus has only been around for a few months. Are you going to give the coronavirus a chance to prove it can be more deadly than the flu? By the time it infects millions and kills hundreds of thousand, it is too late to get it under control. Experts have warned us to limit our social interaction to slow down the spread. Thinking that it is overblown and continue to do things the same way is very irresponsible. Your action may affect others around you.

Vulnerable age group.

Being in the vulnerable age group, my wife and I are trying to be as careful as possible and follow the recommendations as best we can by limiting social interaction and going out only for necessary activities like grocery shopping and appointments. We have both had bad colds during the past couple of weeks, but we are past the worst of it and I am pretty sure it is just the seasonal stuff and not COVID-19. I did go to the grocery store yesterday, and the panic buying is kind of scary. Most disinfectants, cleaning products and paper products were pretty well sold out.

Fortunately, one of our favorite activities is riding our ebikes on the local trails. As the weather improves, that seems like it will still be a good activity to get some fresh air and exercise in a relatively low density and well ventilated venue. My wife has cancelled her membership at the exercise gym for the time being and I think that was a good idea.

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I am looking at what people who have had the virus said,

chewbacca wrote:
maddog67 wrote:

...and don’t plan to do so. The flu is worse than the coronavirus and I haven’t cancelled anything because of that so I really don’t see any reason to cancel anything because of the current outbreak. I could be wrong, but I think that this is being completely blown out of proportion.

The coronavirus has only been around for a few months. Are you going to give the coronavirus a chance to prove it can be more deadly than the flu? By the time it infects millions and kills hundreds of thousand, it is too late to get it under control. Experts have warned us to limit our social interaction to slow down the spread. Thinking that it is overblown and continue to do things the same way is very irresponsible. Your action may affect others around you.

and that is that the virus, all in all, is not that bad. According to the CDC there have been 1629 cases with 41 deaths in the US due to COVID-19. The numbers on the flu are: 36 MILLION illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations, and 22,000 deaths during this flu season. (13 times more people have died of the flu this year as there have been total COVID-19 cases.) All of the numbers are from the CDC as of today. So, which one is worse? The flu or the Coronavirus? Can the Coronavirus get worse? Yes. Will it? We don't know, but from what I have read and heard, this is going to be nowhere near as bad as a typical flu season here in the US. In fact, from the reporting that I have seen and read, it appears that the virus is dying out in Wuhan, China. So that is a good thing. Doctors are also saying that once you get over the virus, you cannot get the same strain again. Now with that being said; am I taking precautions? Yes. I am using hand sanitizer more and I am washing my hands more frequently. I am being cautious about where I go, but I am not actually cancelling any trips. Just using good common sense like I do with the flu bug.

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Yep

maddog67 wrote:

...and don’t plan to do so. The flu is worse than the coronavirus and I haven’t cancelled anything because of that so I really don’t see any reason to cancel anything because of the current outbreak. I could be wrong, but I think that this is being completely blown out of proportion.

Agreed, only thing I am doing differently is washing my hands more frequently grin

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No. We went anyhow and are

No. We went anyhow and are enjoying

Next shortage

sussamb wrote:

Agreed, only thing I am doing differently is washing my hands more frequently grin

Ditto on the hand washing. Having said that the next shortage will be hand lotion to take care of all the dry cracked hands! smile

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Yup

Because the alcohol in the sanitizers dry out the skin.

John from PA wrote:
sussamb wrote:

Agreed, only thing I am doing differently is washing my hands more frequently grin

Ditto on the hand washing. Having said that the next shortage will be hand lotion to take care of all the dry cracked hands! smile

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maddog67 wrote:
chewbacca wrote:
maddog67 wrote:

...and don’t plan to do so. The flu is worse than the coronavirus and I haven’t cancelled anything because of that so I really don’t see any reason to cancel anything because of the current outbreak. I could be wrong, but I think that this is being completely blown out of proportion.

The coronavirus has only been around for a few months. Are you going to give the coronavirus a chance to prove it can be more deadly than the flu? By the time it infects millions and kills hundreds of thousand, it is too late to get it under control. Experts have warned us to limit our social interaction to slow down the spread. Thinking that it is overblown and continue to do things the same way is very irresponsible. Your action may affect others around you.

and that is that the virus, all in all, is not that bad. According to the CDC there have been 1629 cases with 41 deaths in the US due to COVID-19. The numbers on the flu are: 36 MILLION illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations, and 22,000 deaths during this flu season. (13 times more people have died of the flu this year as there have been total COVID-19 cases.) All of the numbers are from the CDC as of today. So, which one is worse? The flu or the Coronavirus? Can the Coronavirus get worse? Yes. Will it? We don't know, but from what I have read and heard, this is going to be nowhere near as bad as a typical flu season here in the US. In fact, from the reporting that I have seen and read, it appears that the virus is dying out in Wuhan, China. So that is a good thing. Doctors are also saying that once you get over the virus, you cannot get the same strain again. Now with that being said; am I taking precautions? Yes. I am using hand sanitizer more and I am washing my hands more frequently. I am being cautious about where I go, but I am not actually cancelling any trips. Just using good common sense like I do with the flu bug.

You are addressing REPORTED COVID-19 cases. In the last week of February we were told (USA topic, not the rest of the world) we'd have 1M test kits available soon. The first week of this month were were told the same thing but the number was 4M. Today we were told there will be enough tests whatever that means. If we get serious about testing then we may learn our status. In the meantime the bloviation “if you can’t measure it you can’t manage it” applies.

I had a land trip and cruise

I had a land trip and cruise scheduled for end of July to Italy and Greece that I just cancelled. I am at a high risk for covid-19.

flu vs coronavirus as 1:6 or more if in Europe

Same here. Saw a lot of panic shopping, empty shelves everywhere from walmart to costco. Closed schools and cancel trips sad
People like us do like adventure, but this is NOT. Good luck

RT 66

We had a trip out RT 66 scheduled to begin April 6th but many museums and venues are closing. Will give it 30 days or so and reevaluate.

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Canceled my cross country flight to see family

I have elderly members of my family and don't want to endanger them as I could have the virus for awhile before showing symptoms.

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Flying BECAUSE of the Virus !!!

My Granddaughter will be flying on Monday *because* of the virus. She is in a Study Abroad program in Strasbourg, France, and has been told that the program has been cancelled because of the virus and she has to return home ASAP.

She is *massively* disappointed. She loves the city, the school, and the society - and is living with a host family that sounds like something out of an advertisement for the program. Coming home 11 weeks early has her in tears.

- Tom -

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The most important thing..

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My Granddaughter will be flying on Monday *because* of the virus. She is in a Study Abroad program in Strasbourg, France, and has been told that the program has been cancelled because of the virus and she has to return home ASAP.

She is *massively* disappointed. She loves the city, the school, and the society - and is living with a host family that sounds like something out of an advertisement for the program. Coming home 11 weeks early has her in tears.

- Tom -

The most important thing your granddaughter should remember is to meet the challenge of today but look forward to tomorrow. I was once in the situation of your granddaughter, having an opportunity while in college to travel extensively. But I was very much disappointed that I never got to Africa or the east Coast of South America. Years later, and without the burden of college studies, I got to both! While in college, I got to 19 countries and travelled about 1/4 million miles; my entire sophomore year. A rarity for most college students, “yes”, but all it did was make me realize that there are so many places, and so little time. I was 60 when I watched “Dance with Wolves” and took my first trip to our national parks. What a treasure!

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cancelling work trips but not personal trips

Corporate has cancelled all non-mission critical trips until further notice. Locally, we're to use personal judgement.

Just got back from New Mexico

0 cases when I arrived, 4 cases when I left. Only local trips since then.

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13 tonight in NM

schmidwr wrote:

0 cases when I arrived, 4 cases when I left. Only local trips since then.

Yes, we in New Mexico had zero cases reported as of Wednesday morning. Latest reported results has 13 positives out of 495 test results reported.

All schools closed for weeks to come. No gatherings over 100. Libraries closed. Zoo closed. The major concert venues are closed.

Last person to leave should turn out the lights.

I'm staying.

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-et- wrote:

My Granddaughter will be flying on Monday *because* of the virus. She is in a Study Abroad program in Strasbourg, France, and has been told that the program has been cancelled because of the virus and she has to return home ASAP.

She is *massively* disappointed. She loves the city, the school, and the society - and is living with a host family that sounds like something out of an advertisement for the program. Coming home 11 weeks early has her in tears.

- Tom -

Health and safety first. Everything else including money does not matter.

My Annual Wellness Doctors Appointment Cancelled

I was surprised to receive a call today (Sunday) that my appointment was cancelled for Monday regarding my Annual Wellness exam.
This is getting serious since the doctors office is never closed on Sundays. They called in employees to notify patients of the cancellation.

I'm just wondering if this happened due to my age (72), or to all patients as a precaution not to have non-essential examinations due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

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A reason to cancel a trip or event

In 1918 in Philadelphia they had a planned Liberty Loan parade.
at that time it was the Spanish flu the "H1N1. virus going around.
They didn't cancel it.
500 million people got it around the world and 50 million died, 12,000 died there alone in 6 weeks
It is worth it to have little disruption in your life to save it.
It got here on the ships bringing home troops from WW1. in a matter of days 600 sailors had it.
So yes, it makes sense to cancel

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Spanish flu now believed to possibly have come from China

Timantide wrote:

In 1918 in Philadelphia they had a planned Liberty Loan parade.
at that time it was the Spanish flu the "H1N1. virus going around.
They didn't cancel it.
500 million people got it around the world and 50 million died, 12,000 died there alone in 6 weeks
It is worth it to have little disruption in your life to save it.
It got here on the ships bringing home troops from WW1. in a matter of days 600 sailors had it.
So yes, it makes sense to cancel

See https://www.history.com/news/why-was-the-1918-influenza-pand...

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We just got hit with cases

And our schools are shut down, restaurants and bars etc....closed for two weeks as well.

No toilet paper to be found anywhere.

Walmart looms like a hurricane Went through and emptied the shelves.

Basically, its Like a ghost town. No one it out at all.

Had a Trip

to Disney World April 9. Not sure what to do yet.

I'm 62......

and staying home for now as much as I can.

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all

travel at my co. was canceled 2 weeks ago. I'm glad as it implies that my co. is not late to the game, but possibly was ahead of the curve.

Very humbling experience. 2009 financial markets weren't even close. Most of us do not know what it was like to live through WWII, but I bet our grandparents might. Maybe they are even too young in many cases.

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NASAstronut wrote:

No toilet paper to be found anywhere.

At first I thought why are the mgs. not willing to produce more?

then, I read on how it's irrational behavior and hoarding, where, because there's a virus, people do not consume more toilet paper.

But think about it this way. It takes up a lot of space. So, there has to be some upper bound that contrains how much people are willing to hoard, due to space. This is why the mfgs. produce it based on orders--they do not warehouse the stuff, as normally there is not a lot of demand.

Maybe it's when it's filled to the ceiling in every room, people will stop hoarding it, who knows.

I went out last Friday at 4 AM to get it. No, there wasn't any, and FOX News was there doing a story (Don Henley's Dirty Laundry immediately starting playing in my head).

Then, I went to another super supermarket opening at 6 AM. Got there 6:10 EST. When I went to the shelf, oddly there were 4 packs of Charmin on sale left, and I KID YOU NOT. A man and a woman were circling near me waiting to see what I was gonna do. So, I took all 4. Maybe today, or next week? They grab it from me or make comments. Any other time I would also buy 4. One because it's on sale, two I don't like to have to run out to get just that. Never realized how lucky I was to even get it.

Anyone Killing Travel Due To Covid-19?

johnnatash4 wrote:

...Maybe it's when it's filled to the ceiling in every room, people will stop hoarding it, who knows...

You have probably never been in a hoarder's house, have you?

I think if you are serious about this COVID-19

You should follow the guidelines and self Quarantine when you get home. Avoid crowds, wash and stop touching, if in Petri Dish enviro, don't go!

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