Anyone killing travel due to Covid-19?

Supposed to go to Iceland this summer with my daughter who is graduating HS. THat has already been impacted, likely no graduation ceremony, looking like this trip is in jeopardy as well.

The outdoor part of my trip is still green-lighted, but things like hotels and restaurants needed on a trip from New York to Arizona may not be available. This is gonna be a strange trip indeed, if it happens at all. I'm more than willing to camp out or just plain sleep in my car and drive through fast food joints. Unfortunately my travel partner is not so willing. There's still 10 weeks between now and then so things may change. Let us all hope they do. FOR THE BETTER!

As an educated reasonable senior citizen and therefore at risk i am limiting outings...i am following the science, including the cdc. I am especially concerned that government messaging and preparation has been inconsistent and ineffective. I am also cocerned for the majority of americans who dont have many safetynets...and the healthcare workers, my colleagues, who are at risk because of ppe and other necessities in short supply. Stay healthy and safe

While I still wheel the Jeep every chance I get, a Trip to Moab has been cancelled and a RV Rally in Tucson was cancelled. I was on a cruise through the Panama Canal when it hit the U.S. Now we have one case in the county I am in in AZ.

Does anyone know how to pay the IRS electronically? There was an option to pay electronically when I filed almost a month ago but I didn't take that option.

I chose to pay by mail (write a check) instead. I wanted to wait a bit closer to the (old) deadline in mid April before paying but now I don't really want to go to the post office to send mail.

I understand the deadline has been extended to July. I'm afraid that I will forget paying them entirely if I don't pay soon. If there's an option to pay the IRS online (without incurring extra fees), I'll take that option. What about CA state? Anyone?

My 71st cruise from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida to Copenhagen, Denmark was, of course, canceled. I'm trying to get my air and hotel pre-pay back. I've done it before so it's not a big deal especially if it keeps me healthy. I have been in self home quarantine. This is my 25th day.

Stay healthy all.

Gary Hayman

https://www.irs.gov/payments

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/pay/index.html?WT.mc_id=akPayChoices

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Thanks for the quick reply. It's too bad there's service fee for all credit card payments. I can collect reward points on my card but not worth it if there's fee.

I had two trips planned for this year, one to the Isle of Man in July and another to Michigan in May.
Held of buying the tickets for the UK trip and glad I did, FlyBe went bust.
Trip to Michigan is just being delayed hopefully until later this year. Will have to keep the GPS units charged from the wall plugs
Hang in there everyone, we will get back on the roads again.

When you pay by credit card, the merchant gets rather less than all the money. Your points represent a rebate of part of what they fail to pay the merchant, and they keep the rest.

I don't think paying by credit card should be a way for the government to get less money than it gets from those of us who pay with payroll withholding, check, or other means.

i have a trip planned in September and am hoping this situation will be over by then

I think those in the high risk groups will need to socially isolate for quite a while. We are minimizing our trips outside the home. While out shopping I wear gloves and a mask.

Had a trip planned for Tennessee and South Carolina and maybe a jump over to Florida.

We canceled a trip with my two sisters and their spouses to see my brother who was just diagnosed and had surgery the same day for cancer. Really want to see him. He is in his 70's as we all are there and also our 80's so it makes sense to cancel. Hopefully we can see him this summer or early fall.

I feel for you Mary. This corona virus situation makes for some very difficult choices with our loved ones, especially for those of us in the high risk age group.

We are even hesitant to have our kids and grand kids come to visit. That is really hard to deal with. Our oldest grandson just turned 20 this month. They live close by, but we haven't even been able to see him to give him his birthday gift.

Yesterday ion Long Island, the weather was awesome. After work*, it was way too beautiful a day to have to sit alone in a house. I drove over to 'visit' with a family I have known since childhood. I parked out front and started walking toward the front door. They saw me, opened it up and started heading my way. I stopped halfway across the lawn, told them 'far enough', and we chatted for 30 minutes across the front lawn. That's what things have come down to lately. I did enjoy the conversation. Way better than over the phone and I get to see familiar faces, not on some electronic gadget. I'm going to pack folding chairs in my cars and do this more often.

* I should explain about the work. I work in a major metropolitan NY hospital in Queens (Covid-19 central) in information services. As everything nowadays runs over electronica, my job is very essential, so for me it is business as usual. Traffic has been a dream in an otherwise troubled world. It's funny how you don't miss things until you aren't allowed to do them. Just going out for a meal with friends. Or even staying in and having one together. I truly miss the social aspects, but at least I get to be harassed by my coworkers when I'm not working from home a few days a week...

I drove out of necessity from Laredo, TX to Detroit, MI. I can can count the people I was somewhere in contact with on two hands. Since NO restaurants are open the fast food joints can almost be discounted. The workers and myself were separated by near 4 feet at a drive in window. About the same in the 4 motels I stayed in. Only place where the staff was less than 4 feet away was in the Duty Free shop in Detroit. The staff there were much closer to each other.

I am now in a 14 day self containment with 10 more days to go.

I hate to say this but from what I have seen in my 2,500 mile drive, too many individual Americans do not take this current situation seriously!!!

I was waiting to hear from the airline as to whether they would allow me to reschedule my non refundable ticket. I received an email from them yesterday saying they would. I can reschedule anytime before 12/30/20.

As a result, our May trip to the southwest is officially cancelled.

Don't take any unnecessary chances.... hopefully this will pass

All plans for travel I would make around now have been put on hold.

Here in New Mexico a new regulation last week requires people who arrived by air to isolate in their room for 14 days. The only exception allowed is for medical treatment.

Stuck with this too ..... but I understand that this is necessary!

Besides, since almost everything is closed, it doesn't seem like I'm missing anything ....

Take care everyone .... respect all quarantines and social distancing rules. I'm optimistic that we may start to improve sooner than predicted.

You are 30x more likely to die of the covid-19 than the flu if you get it especially if you are over 65 years old.

We were planning a month-long camping trip to several US National Parks but... Parks are closed. Virus is everywhere. We are old. Poop.

We're booked for 33 days of cruising around Southern Australia, New Zealand, and Queensland in November/December. Who knows if that will happen.

I just learned over last weekend that a friend I grew up with contracted coronavirus. Got the news around 6 pm my local time. He was in critical condition... on ventilator but still had difficulty breathing. Got an update less than 5 hours later. He passed away at the age of 50 more or less (I don't know his exact age). My friend has other medical issues. This thing is mercilessly killing those who have medical problems. Stay safe everyone.

I had to make a trip this morning for a doctor's appointment that couldn't be rescheduled. I used an interstate that is normally busy during rush hour. There were a few cars on the road but it was mostly trucks.

When I booted Waze, there were no wazers on the screen and no reports of any kind during the entire 30 mile trip! There are usually dozens on the road at that time. It appears the travel advisory is having the desired effect.

Here is a link to the actual executive order:

https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/...

It is not likely known at this point in time because there are far far more people that have it but haven't been tested. The flu is tested far far more than the tests for covid-19 so the percentage of death looks less at this point.

I am not wanting to start an argument but I just want everyone to realize the numbers aren't really in yet on the death percentage.

Muell9k Wrote
I too don't wish to start an argument.
Looking at the facts, the numbers are probably far greater then have been reported thus far. I just hope everybody does their part in defeating this terrible virus, not just in the USA, but worldwide.

Current 2020 World Population
China 1,439,323.776 (billion) Cases 81,470 Deaths 3,304
India 1,380,404.385 (billion) Cases 1,071 Deaths 29
USA 331.002.651 (million) Cases 152,631 Deaths 2,817
Italy 60,461,826 (million) Cases 101,739 Deaths 11,591
Spain 46,754778 (million) Cases 85,195 Deaths 7,340

Looking at the data, I find it hard to believe that China. where the disease has its origin, only indicates 3,304 deaths.
Now look at India, the second largest country next to China only has 1,071 cases with 39 deaths. Surely this inaccurate, probably due to the fact there inability to gather information.

There are far more countries that are not reporting how this virus is present in their country. There are 195 countries in the World.

https://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-a...

If someone dies of covid-19 in a hospital in the U.S. we should expect correct attribution. What are the odds that the death of someone who wasn’t hospitalized will be registered correctly? Assuming that the coroner really wants to do a good job will she be able to obtain a covid-19 test when hospitals can’t get enough? Being a coroner has just gotten a lot more complicated and dangerous and I don’t know practically anything about the before or after.

So,,, we don’t know how many of us are getting covid-19 since the 4,000,000 tests promised ~4 weeks ago to arrive within a week aren’t here yet. We don’t know how many are dying of covid-19.

Covid-19 has succeeded where many humans have failed. It killed science.

Please don’t tell me that this is hyperbole. I know.

Yup. Hunkered down in south Texas for the next two weeks

Actually this just happened in Dallas County.
"The man who died was a Dallas resident in his 40s who was found dead in his home, officials said. He had other high-risk chronic health conditions.".

You can review the countries currently reporting COVID-19 cases to the WHO in the WHO daily situation reports, which they post here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

That is rather a lot of countries. Do you have any particular candidates for the "far more countries" not reporting who should be?

At least here in PA, the number of cases & deaths are skewed. The eastern part of the state gets a lot of people from NJ and NY fleeing the virus ridden cities to the relative safety of their vacation homes. If one of these vacationers tests positive, the number is reported in their home state statistics, not where the test was made.

This means the number of actual cases is likely far greater than those reported here in eastern PA.

I don't know if this practice is standard across the US or not.

I was planning to travel down to Florida for a few days mid month to get away from it all. That's before there was something really scary to get away from. Turns out the scary thing to get away from is down there too... No trip this month...

That you have seen the error of your ways by now!!!!

STAY HOME

and listen to the medical people, like Dr. Faucci, who want you to know the facts, and not the politicians, that just want to be re-elected.

Also going to skip my FL trip to visit my parents and brother in Tampa next week. Gonna spend spring break with my kids around the house.

I was planning to go to Europe (England, Austria) hopefully I still can and have to wait and see

The Government makes a decision, Essential Travel Only, agree with it or not, do it! If you don't like it, do it now and Vote them out in November. But not complying will only extend the misère because they will extend and use more enforcement till the curve flattens. More SB's will go under, more peeps will loose money, suffer. I hear young peeps saying leave stuff open, kids in school because below 30 and children are not badly effected. Schools and the kids are a Petri Dish Times a million. They will pass virus amongst each other. Look a New Orleans, Mardi Grau, how'd that work out for them and all who attended and took it back to their home states, Spring Break. Wife and I are staying away from people, only shopping during off times and days.

They must be waiting for a lot of deaths and cases before doing so. Or the Governors have the attitude of "Not in my state"!

Georgia governor just issued "stay at home" order. Kemp said he just heard that asymptomatic people can spread the virus. We all knew that over a month ago. I guess they don't have radio, TV or internet connection in Georgia or perhaps Kemp lives under a rock.

The BBC web site today ran an article which mentioned that of 193 UN member nations, only 18 have not yet reported a COVID-19 case.:

Comoros; Kiribati; Lesotho; Marshall Islands; Micronesia; Nauru; North Korea; Palau; Samoa; Sao Tome and Principe; Solomon Islands; South Sudan; Tajikistan; Tonga; Turkmenistan; Tuvalu; Vanuatu, Yemen

The person writing the article thought that many of those might very likely not yet have had their first case, while a few might be failing to test or failing to report.

In my opinion, none of these would contribute enough cases materially to alter the worldwide totals at the moment, even if they have undetected or deliberately hidden cases.

10 states as of yesterday still no stay at home order. (map at link)

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e85e349f25...

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Cancelled trip to Europe. All My flights were cancelled. i would be in quarantine the entire time.

In Mexico the governor of the state of Pueblo has decreed that Covid-19 has "No effect on the poor because they cannot go to ski in Europe or travel"

That's the most idiotic statement by any politician!

See: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/americas/mexico-coronavirus-l...

I have never been to Pueblo, if its poor and off the beaten Tourist Path, it may never see a COVID-19 case, there are cities in the US that will never have a COVID-19 case, the Virus needs a traveling carrier, just a breeze wont take it to another city. If Pueblo gets a case and the people are poor the virus might die with that person or family because they wont see a doctor and no one might even know. COVID-19 is a Media Hyped Event, I'm 73 and not concerned about getting it. Wife and my biggest concern is because of the Hype the Government will keep adding new tries at "Flattening the Curve or V". And the Hoarders will keep Hoarding so shopping will be a pain. More people are dyeing from the Flue caused side killers then COVID-19 Killers. Follow the CDC Guidelines, flatten the Curve and we can go back to living. The overcrowded hospitals is largely caused by stupidity, Mardi Grau, Spring Break, Cities like New York not shutting down until everybody was Infested. New Orleans Especially, remember the Hurricane, they had Buses to evacuate people before it hit, that wiz Kid Mayor and Governor wanted the Feds to take over before they even did anything. Well how'd the Mardi Grau do, was it worth it?

No killing, but not making any new travel plans at this time.

I changed all my Doctor appointments outside the Flu season, nothing dumber then sitting in a crowded Waiting Room, full of sick people During the Flu Season.