How Many Are Getting Their Real ID's?

 

Starting October 1, 2020, every state and territory resident will need to present a REAL ID compliant license/ID, or another acceptable form of identification, for accessing Federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and boarding commercial aircraft. The card, itself, must be REAL ID compliant unless the resident is using an alternative acceptable document such as a passport. The Act does not require individuals to present identification where it is not currently required to access a Federal facility (such as to enter the public areas of the Smithsonian) nor does it prohibit an agency from accepting other forms of identity documents (such as a U.S. passport or passport card).

Details are available here: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

A Real ID isn't absolutely necessary and many won't need to get one. However, if you travel frequently, as many of us here at the Factory do, a Read ID can be convenient.

Although the deadline is a year away, my wife and I chose to get ours this past March when our home state began issuing them. In our case, it saves us the hassle of getting out and carrying our passports for domestic travel.

I'm curious. How many here have or are planning to get their Real ID's?

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Real ID for me

...got mine at my last renewal.

Not me. As long as I have my

Not me. As long as I have my birth certificate...

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Had mine for months.Easier

Had mine for months.

Easier than remembering to have my passport with me for those times when real ID is required.

I've got nothing to hide, the military and government security clearences has given them all the info anyway.

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I never get lost, but I do explore new territory every now and then.

Got mine at last renewal last year.

Then an opportunity arose to go to Europe and had to get passport. Unfortunately Europe didn't happen and I am not sure it will.

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I got mine

earlier this year as I renewed my driver's license.

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I Did

Don't even remember when I did it.

It has come in handy when traveling.

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I have not

I plan on getting a Real ID, however, haven't gotten around to it yet.

While not completely mandatory, it will be convenient.

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Wife has to renew her DL

Wife has to renew her DL next MAY.... Mine is due next OCT.... In May we'll see if we can get both done for DL & ID...

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Got Mine Last Year

I got mine at my last renewal.

Next Renewal

I'll get mine at the next Drivers License Renewal, if I can pass the test, I'll be close to 80 then. Don't intend on flying any where.

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I need to get a new passport

I need to get a new passport and I may do it then.

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I plan to wait....

for my next renewal.

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two years ago

we call it an enhanced drivers license, use it when I go to Arizona an enter mexico.

Future..

Already got mine.

i already have one

When i added my motorcycle endorsement, TX added it to my driver's license and i didn't notice until the latest news about needing it. My wife is having to go in and bring her paperwork to get it. My dad just renewed his and it took multiple trips with different stories at the different TX DPS offices. Crazy thing is it was easier for him to add the Veteran designation to his license than to get the gold star.

It sounds like my parent's generation and older are having issues because of the way birth certificates were issued and many births were outside of hospital settings.

I, for one,

will probably look at getting one of these the next time my license comes up for renewal.

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Got it!

Did ours the last time we renewed D/L. As KenSny wrote

Quote:

...nothing to hide, the military and government security clearences has given them all the info anyway...

Not to mention all the info provided for Passport and Global stuff!

Not available in KY yet.

Our state has been really slow getting it's act together. But when they finally do, I plan to get mine. Until then got to keep the passport current. Which is not a bad idea any way in case a Canada trip happens.

Probably

I renewed my DL in Dec of 2017 & my passport in June of 2018, so I don't necessarily need to get it right away.
However, I do most of my traveling in the US and have multiple trips next year, so I might get it just so I don't have to lug both my state DL and my passport around.

~Angela

Probably

I renewed my DL in Dec of 2017 & my passport in June of 2018, so I don't necessarily need to get it right away.
However, I do most of my traveling in the US and have multiple trips next year, so I might get it just so I don't have to lug both my state DL and my passport around.

~Angela

Yes

Do travel enough to use Real ID. It's more convenient than carrying additional ID.

Got mine

Got mine last month.

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Got mine

last renewal.

Problem with birth certificate.

I am going to try to get a Real ID when I renew next time, but I suspect I won't be able to get one. I have a problem with my birth certificate in that both my first and second names on the birth certificate are spelled differently than the name my parents gave me and that I have used my whole life. My mother told me the Dr. spelled my name wrong when he filed the birth certificate with the state 72 years ago. My mother told him about it after they received their copy, but the Dr. said it didn't really matter as the birth date and other information was correct. I never gave it much thought until I retired and tried to get my pension and Social Security and they questioned my identity. Interestingly my Social Security card that I got when I was 14 has the correct spelling. I was eventually able to get my retirement benefits by getting some documents notarized. I also had trouble trying to get a passport a few years ago. I forget what all they said I would have to do to get the passport, but it would have taken several weeks, so I just gave up and cancelled my planned trip to Canada.

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Got Mine

It came with my license renewal two years ago. Had to "activate" it via email to DMV.

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Yep

FreddyP wrote:

Did ours the last time we renewed D/L. As KenSny wrote

Quote:

...nothing to hide, the military and government security clearences has given them all the info anyway...

Not to mention all the info provided for Passport and Global stuff!

Original civilian Passport was easy. Just showed them the old military passport that I had locked away and no hassle there.

Actually getting the Veterans ID on my plates and license involved bringing in the DD214 original, not the card. And I had that long before I got the REAL ID, so only birth certificate and passport needed.

Good thing I saved all those old papers.

And yes, going thru NY and LA airports is a true nightmare even without a paper work hassle. At least airport security seems more polite with the ID now, as opposed to before when everyone was a suspect..... Not that I really think having a REAL ID will prevent anything at all.

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Will do it when I have to

Will do it when I have to renew my Drivers License. I believe it is just a money grab. Instead of $54 for regular DL they get $78 for EDL.

Did it last year

When CA first started offering them...

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No

Not me. Instead, I got the US State Department Passport ID card. It is fully acceptable as full "Real/Enhanced ID" for domestic air travel, land crossings into USA, and some seaport entries.

Same size as a driver's license or credit card.

Here, better than my memory:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-pa...

This website does a side by side comparison of US Passport vs US Passport ID. Here's a paste of the Passport ID:

Entering the United States at land border crossings and sea ports-of-entry from:
Canada
Mexico
The Caribbean
Bermuda
The passport card cannot be used for international air travel.

The passport card is Real ID compliant and can be used for domestic air travel.

$65 - first-time applicants 16 and older
$50 - applicants under 16
$30 - renewals by mail

IMHO, not being allowed for international air travel is no big deal, because the destination country will require a passport anyway.

Damn gummint intrudin' into

Damn gummint intrudin' into my bidness!

Same thing, same reason

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Although the deadline is a year away, my wife and I chose to get ours this past March when our home state began issuing them. In our case, it saves us the hassle of getting out and carrying our passports for domestic travel.

We got them awhile back and although our passports are readily available, not too difficult to carry, etc. I looked on a lost passport situation as nothing but grief whereas a lost driver's license (at least in Pennsylvania) is relatively easy to take care of.

By the way, in applying for the Real ID a Social Security card is acceptable as one form of identification but it can't be laminated, something people tended to do with their SS cards many years ago. I had to first get a new SS card, then apply for the RealID driver's license.

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Passport card has one potential limitation

perpster wrote:

Not me. Instead, I got the US State Department Passport ID card. It is fully acceptable as full "Real/Enhanced ID" for domestic air travel, land crossings into USA, and some seaport entries.

Entering the United States at land border crossings and sea ports-of-entry from:
Canada
Mexico
The Caribbean
Bermuda
The passport card cannot be used for international air travel.

A key thing about the Passport Card is it is for land and sea only. Some Caribbean countries are now requiring a Passport or Passport Card when you are entering by a cruise ship. As stated by the OP, "The passport card cannot be used for international air travel." What does this mean? If you get sick while on your cruise and have to be taken off the ship for care, you will have a major hassle returning to the States. More than likely your journey will involve air travel and the Passport Card will not suffice. Many "cruise" experts are now recommending you get the full Passport, not the card, if you frequently cruise the Caribbean. This situation can even be an issue with some Alsaka cruises. If you do a Seattle to Seattle cruise on a foreign flag ship (that is about all there is) and have to disembark the vessel in Vancouver BC (illness, missed ship, etc.), you cannot then fly into the States.

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My Brother Has the Same Issue

alandb wrote:

I am going to try to get a Real ID when I renew next time, but I suspect I won't be able to get one. I have a problem with my birth certificate in that both my first and second names on the birth certificate are spelled differently than the name my parents gave me and that I have used my whole life. My mother told me the Dr. spelled my name wrong when he filed the birth certificate with the state 72 years ago. My mother told him about it after they received their copy, but the Dr. said it didn't really matter as the birth date and other information was correct. I never gave it much thought until I retired and tried to get my pension and Social Security and they questioned my identity. Interestingly my Social Security card that I got when I was 14 has the correct spelling. I was eventually able to get my retirement benefits by getting some documents notarized. I also had trouble trying to get a passport a few years ago. I forget what all they said I would have to do to get the passport, but it would have taken several weeks, so I just gave up and cancelled my planned trip to Canada.

My brothers middle name is spelled differently on his birth certificate than it is on his social security card. I'm not sure how but he did manage to get a passport and TSA Pre Check KTN#. Even so, he was denied a Real ID. The process to get one in his state is so involved that he will just continue to use his passport.

Who knew 70+ years ago that a simple spelling error would cause so much trouble later in life.

Laminated cards

John from PA wrote:

By the way, in applying for the Real ID a Social Security card is acceptable as one form of identification but it can't be laminated, something people tended to do with their SS cards many years ago. I had to first get a new SS card, then apply for the RealID driver's license.

Yes indeed. I went for my AZ Real ID license with my ancient and self-laminated SS card. Since I had extra documentation with me, I was able to get the Real ID card but the DMV worker told me I should go to a SS office and request a new card. I did—and I did not laminate it. I think the reason for not accepting lamination is that the new SS cards have "color-changing depending upon viewing angle ink" for security and it's probably not compatible with lamination.

Regarding Real ID and name/spelling issues, I think married women have a bit more documentation needed compared to men/single_women/maiden_name_keeping_women since they have to properly document their name change when they married.

Procrastination

is a terrible thing. Putting real ID on the reminder calendar right now.

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follow the rules

Ever since New Mexico finally got on the real ID list, the newspapers have carried stories of people having trouble getting the documentation accepted at the MVD.

So I was little worried about going through the process a couple of weeks ago, but I found that MVD had a pretty concise one page documentation requirements PDF published at their website which specified quite exactly what forms of documentation were required.

My wife plans to go through it a week or two from now, and we realized it will be just a little harder to collect required documents for her because her name is not on our utility bills which for me was the easiest way to meet the third required category of documents (the one that shows that I currently live here).

Reflecting on the newspaper articles, I think the main problem here New Mexico is that people would show up at the MVD with their own private theory as to what sort of documents should be satisfactory for a particular purpose, instead of following the letter of what is stated to be required. I don't think the clerk is authorized to say "yes I agree that is equivalent".

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Interesting

CraigW wrote:
John from PA wrote:

By the way, in applying for the Real ID a Social Security card is acceptable as one form of identification but it can't be laminated, something people tended to do with their SS cards many years ago. I had to first get a new SS card, then apply for the RealID driver's license.

Yes indeed. I went for my AZ Real ID license with my ancient and self-laminated SS card. Since I had extra documentation with me, I was able to get the Real ID card but the DMV worker told me I should go to a SS office and request a new card. I did—and I did not laminate it. I think the reason for not accepting lamination is that the new SS cards have "color-changing depending upon viewing angle ink" for security and it's probably not compatible with lamination.

Regarding Real ID and name/spelling issues, I think married women have a bit more documentation needed compared to men/single_women/maiden_name_keeping_women since they have to properly document their name change when they married.

My 57 year old original social security card is also laminated. It wouldn't exist today if it weren't. I presented it, along with other forms of ID when I got my PA. Real ID and no mention of it was made. It might be because I had so much other documentation that it wasn't needed though.

My wife had to show both her marriage and birth certificates to deal with the name change issue.

Real IDs

My license was due, so I got the new one.
the process was easy. If you fly in country, you either have a new license or a passport after next October, it is also is useable at the borders.

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Yes

When my CDL (commercial drivers licence) renews I will be issued the Real ID. When Pennsylvania finally changed a law* that prohibited such a thing, you were then able to either get the Real ID or just have the required documents scanned into the system so at your next renewal it will be automatic. I had the docs scanned in last winter while I was on my winter lay-off, my CDL renews next year.

I had heard about the laminated SS card problem so I had already gotten a new card. My old one was old school laminated, with scotch tape, lol. Surprisingly it's still in good condition.

I don't really need the Real ID, or I shouldn't anyway, I have a TWIC card, I have HAZ-MAT on my CDL, I have an PHL airport badge, these three things required fingerprints and a background check. I also have a passport book & passport card and a PA & Utah license to carry firearms, Utah required fingerprints and a background check.

Suffice to say the government is well aware of who I am. I just want to have the CDL Real ID to make renewing the other things a little easier and vice versa.

* Until May 2017, Pennsylvania law prohibited PennDOT from complying with the federal REAL ID Act. Act 3 of 2017 repealed this prior legislation and allowed PennDOT to seek REAL ID compliance.

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How Many Are Getting Their Real ID's?

bdhsfz6 wrote:

My 57 year old original social security card is also laminated. It wouldn't exist today if it weren't. I presented it, along with other forms of ID when I got my PA. Real ID and no mention of it was made. It might be because I had so much other documentation that it wasn't needed though.

My wife had to show both her marriage and birth certificates to deal with the name change issue.

I got my Social Security card about 45 years ago. I also laminated mine. I haven't had an issue, but I will probably get a new one at some point.

My other issue is with my name. I was named James, but I have Jim on my Social Security card. The other issue is I am named after my father, thus my birth certificate has Roman numeral two (II) following my name.

Got it!

Got mine during my license renewal......easy if you can find all the documents that your state requires.

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I don't see why I need a

I don't see why I need a read ID if I already have a US passport. Don't plan to get a real ID for the rest of my life.

I'm curious if there are fake Real IDs circulating now.

if you have a Passport you have a real ID

Living on the Border have had a "Passport Card', its been mandatory for years now to get back in from Mexico. You can get back in without it but will wish you had listened and got one. I'm sure there are some fake but I think it will be easier to spot them both visually and electronically. They even come with an RFID Blocking envelope. Sure people will get fake but it will cost more to forge these and I think they will not be worth it to most. Again its a catch game at the border, anything that cuts down on the numbers by easy catches, gives agents better time to look for the hard ones. We also need to make the penalties stiffer, its no deterrent to just bar from re-entry, they will keep trying, we need to start a "work gang" program to cover the cost of imprisonment and put them in a uncomfortable position.

I suppose...

I suppose it's better to have a RealID and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Phil

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Passport card & book

When I started the renewal process for my passport book last year adding on the 'card' wasn't much more money so I got both. Logic is the card will fit in my wallet making it much easier to carry.

I've only been out of the country once but I could still see the Good ole USA from the Canadian side of Niagara Falls smile I have no intention of international of travel but ya never know, I never intended to leave this country either and I ended up in Canada. They didn't even stamp the book sad

That said, the reason I have a passport is some of my work related ID cards and badges required positive ID and the passport was pretty much it at the time.

What I found odd between the two though is the photo on the card is black and white and the book color.

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plunder wrote:

I suppose it's better to have a RealID and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Phil

We see it differently. I'm not against real ID per se. The idea to provide more information (birth or naturalization certificate, SSN, utility bills etc) to the DMV scares me. We've had enough horror hacking stories. I don't trust the DMV can protect their database against breach. I bet hackers are preparing to hit the DMV database. It's a 1 stop shop (or hack)... they'll get everything they need.

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soberbyker wrote:

When I started the renewal process for my passport book last year adding on the 'card' wasn't much more money so I got both. Logic is the card will fit in my wallet making it much easier to carry.

I've only been out of the country once but I could still see the Good ole USA from the Canadian side of Niagara Falls smile I have no intention of international of travel but ya never know, I never intended to leave this country either and I ended up in Canada. They didn't even stamp the book sad

Just renewed mine and I thought about adding a passport card but it's only good for travels from/to US, Canada, Mexico. I can't use it for travel to other countries. I have been out of the USA countless times but I've only visited Canada and Mexico a few times in my life. Passport card will be a waste of money so I did not get one.

@alandb on Correcting name spelling on a birth certificate

alandb wrote:

I am going to try to get a Real ID when I renew next time, but I suspect I won't be able to get one. I have a problem with my birth certificate in that both my first and second names on the birth certificate are spelled differently than the name my parents gave me and that I have used my whole life. My mother told me the Dr. spelled my name wrong when he filed the birth certificate with the state 72 years ago...

This may indeed cause a Fail for RealID, though that will be up to your current state's driver license person screening your documents and their eagle-eye checking for perfect matches, or lack thereof. It is something they're supposed to look for.

Do some websearching and find the city or county responsible for vital records at your birthplace. Contact them for specific instructions on correcting your birth certificate for that particular office, as the procedure varies by locale (of where you were born, not where you live now).

Here's a webpage with general advice:
https://blog.vitalchek.com/birth-certificates/correct-change...

The Cliff Notes version of that webpage:
Changing some errors such as birthplace or sex often requires a court order. But a spelling correction, as long as it's relatively minor, often can be made without a court order by vital records office personnel. But you have to contact them and ask how to proceed. It's not a rare request or issue, so they will have something prepared to guide you.

I had an older copy of my birth certificate that's no longer accepted for establishing name and birthplace for RealID. I had to get a new copy certified by my birthplace's vital records office. The new one looks nothing like the original birth certificate, but all the data transferred over is the same. It's important to get started on things like this with some lead time; don't wait until it's almost renewal time. Just getting a new certified birth certificate took me the better part of a month, though this will vary. You probably will have to pay a small fee (in my case, maybe $10, more for expedited service) for a new birth certificate.

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soberbyker wrote:

When I started the renewal process for my passport book last year adding on the 'card' wasn't much more money so I got both. Logic is the card will fit in my wallet making it much easier to carry.

That's why/how I got my passport ID card, and having it saw no reason to pay the state extra money and go through the in-person hassle of getting Real ID driver's license.

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