How Many Are Getting Their Real ID's?

 

Starting October 1, 2020, every state and territory resident will need to present a REAL ID compliant license/ID, or another acceptable form of identification, for accessing Federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and boarding commercial aircraft. The card, itself, must be REAL ID compliant unless the resident is using an alternative acceptable document such as a passport. The Act does not require individuals to present identification where it is not currently required to access a Federal facility (such as to enter the public areas of the Smithsonian) nor does it prohibit an agency from accepting other forms of identity documents (such as a U.S. passport or passport card).

Details are available here: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

A Real ID isn't absolutely necessary and many won't need to get one. However, if you travel frequently, as many of us here at the Factory do, a Read ID can be convenient.

Although the deadline is a year away, my wife and I chose to get ours this past March when our home state began issuing them. In our case, it saves us the hassle of getting out and carrying our passports for domestic travel.

I'm curious. How many here have or are planning to get their Real ID's?

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I got mine back in 2010.

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I wonder

chewbacca wrote:

We see it differently. I'm not against real ID per se. The idea to provide more information (birth or naturalization certificate, SSN, utility bills etc) to the DMV scares me. We've had enough horror hacking stories. I don't trust the DMV can protect their database against breach. I bet hackers are preparing to hit the DMV database. It's a 1 stop shop (or hack)... they'll get everything they need.

I don't know the answer but wonder if this is anything to worry about. Does anyone know if the Real ID-needed info presented for a Real ID license or ID card is simply inspected by the DMV employee or is some of the info entered into the DMV database? The employee who inspects the paperwork needs to see the info to prove citizenship, address, SS, etc. but why would they need to scan or store info on a rent or utility bill, SS number, legal name change or whatever?

Maybe it's like the TSA agent at an airport who needs to see your aircraft boarding pass and ID but doesn't scan or store either...or do they? (I fly so infrequently so my thoughts may be wrong.)

PA

CraigW wrote:

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Does anyone know if the Real ID-needed info presented for a Real ID license or ID card is simply inspected by the DMV employee or is some of the info entered into the DMV database?

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IN Pennsylvania they scanned my info into the system.

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Had ours for a while now

Unfortunately, this is slow incremental spread of the "security" state.

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CraigW wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

We see it differently. I'm not against real ID per se. The idea to provide more information (birth or naturalization certificate, SSN, utility bills etc) to the DMV scares me. We've had enough horror hacking stories. I don't trust the DMV can protect their database against breach. I bet hackers are preparing to hit the DMV database. It's a 1 stop shop (or hack)... they'll get everything they need.

I don't know the answer but wonder if this is anything to worry about. Does anyone know if the Real ID-needed info presented for a Real ID license or ID card is simply inspected by the DMV employee or is some of the info entered into the DMV database? The employee who inspects the paperwork needs to see the info to prove citizenship, address, SS, etc. but why would they need to scan or store info on a rent or utility bill, SS number, legal name change or whatever?

Maybe it's like the TSA agent at an airport who needs to see your aircraft boarding pass and ID but doesn't scan or store either...or do they? (I fly so infrequently so my thoughts may be wrong.)

I don't know about that either but I assume worst case scenario, they have all the info in their database. Soberbyker verifies that in the state of PA. That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

More Security needed here in the USA

Steve R. wrote:

Unfortunately, this is slow incremental spread of the "security" state.

IMHO we need it because of encroaching problems that are becomimg threats to our way of life. I've been to a lot of countries where carrying your "papers" is a way of life. Try to find a job there without the proper papers, not like here.

If you think the REAL ID is a threat to your privacy, forget about it. Any reasonable sense of privacy has long since disappeared. Our data is spread everywhere. Have you ever been asked to verify your mother's maiden name? How about your father's place of birth? Wonder where they got that? No one needed to data mine too deep to find that.

So if anyone thinks they are staying "off the grid", and their data is safe, because they don't get a REAL ID, then they are only fooling themselves.

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KenSny wrote:

So if anyone thinks they are staying "off the grid", and their data is safe, because they don't get a REAL ID, then they are only fooling themselves.

To be clear I did not say I'm "staying off the grid" by not applying for a real ID. I got a passport so I know the government has my information. Limiting the spread of my info to all government entities is what I'm avoiding.

Same Here

soberbyker wrote:
CraigW wrote:

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Does anyone know if the Real ID-needed info presented for a Real ID license or ID card is simply inspected by the DMV employee or is some of the info entered into the DMV database?

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IN Pennsylvania they scanned my info into the system.

My information was also scanned by the Pennsylvania DMV.

I will be getting mine soon ..

It would be good to have.

The documents needed for a

The documents needed for a real ID were exactly the same as I needed to get my original state drivers license when I moved to my current state. They said that this time they scan them and send them to the feds. What federal agency? Nobody knew. Not sure what this really does for security. It is harder for an illegal immigrant to get a REAL ID then a driver's license they may be issued in many states, so I guess that is one reason.

But why does a driver's license REAL ID have more documents required than a simple passport/passport card, which provides the same access? The mind boggles.

 

chewbacca wrote:
KenSny wrote:

So if anyone thinks they are staying "off the grid", and their data is safe, because they don't get a REAL ID, then they are only fooling themselves.

To be clear I did not say I'm "staying off the grid" by not applying for a real ID. I got a passport so I know the government has my information. Limiting the spread of my info to all government entities is what I'm avoiding.

Not sure how getting a Real ID or a Not-Real ID makes much difference there. I needed to provide the same documents (e.g. passport/birth certificate and utility statements (or similar) to get my driver's license issued when I moved before the Real ID started.

So the state already had the information. Now I had to do it all over again for the Real ID, so they have it again, just updated dates.

No me!

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strange

to get the original drivers license I had to show my birth certificate and I had to show it again for the enhanced one ! makes you wonder what records do they keep ?

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telecomdigest2 wrote:
chewbacca wrote:
KenSny wrote:

So if anyone thinks they are staying "off the grid", and their data is safe, because they don't get a REAL ID, then they are only fooling themselves.

To be clear I did not say I'm "staying off the grid" by not applying for a real ID. I got a passport so I know the government has my information. Limiting the spread of my info to all government entities is what I'm avoiding.

Not sure how getting a Real ID or a Not-Real ID makes much difference there. I needed to provide the same documents (e.g. passport/birth certificate and utility statements (or similar) to get my driver's license issued when I moved before the Real ID started.

So the state already had the information. Now I had to do it all over again for the Real ID, so they have it again, just updated dates.

I just renewed mine about a year ago. It's a California driver license (non real ID compliant). I did not have to submit my passport, utility bills, paychecks, SSN, birth certificate, marriage license etc. I just filled out a renewal application online and went to the DMV to have a new photograph taken. That's it.

The last 2 renewals have been over the internet. I did not have to visit the DMV for the past 2 renewals. The third renewal I gotta have a new photo taken at the DMV so I could not do it online.

Done at Renewal of my DL

I had to renew my Driver's License anyway, so I just got it for the potential convenience. My passport already gives me the same access, but I don't carry that with me except for international flights.

This way I don't have to remember anything unusual to go into a federal facility, since I always have my Driver's License with me.

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I got one.

Getting into some secured facilities and federal sites when delivering is easier with real ID. Otherwise I have to carry my passport.

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Frside007 wrote:

Getting into some secured facilities and federal sites when delivering is easier with real ID. Otherwise I have to carry my passport.

And keep in mind that I expect this will apply to Social Security offices and possibly federal courthouses, etc.

How Many Are Getting Their Real ID's?

So, with the Real ID issue, what would happen if you get called for jury service at a federal courthouse. Would you not have to serve, if you didn't have a Real ID? Would the jury pool be exempt?

Use your passport. And I

Use your passport.
And I think they will find a way to let you serve on the jury....

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Got mine also even though I

Got mine also even though I also renewed my Passport so I'm good to go

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Got Mine

I did it on my last renewal

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Also did on last DL renewal about a year ago

As usual, CA DMV screwed up the system so badly when they first implemented the Real ID, that people were waiting in line all day, literally, and still not getting it! Appointments had to be made 3-4 MONTHS in advance, if they were available at all. I actually let my license expire until the lines were shorter, and was finally able to get in by going as a walk up late in the day on a Friday, when the DMV staff were anxious to get people through so they could go home. Only took about an hour. I was advised to get Veteran designation as well, and I'm glad I did even though it meant an extra trip to the County Veteran Affairs office. I no longer have to produce a DD-214 or separate VA card for veteran benefits, or even for something as simple as a free meal at many restaurants tomorrow! smile

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Planning On Getting Mine Soon

Planning on getting mine real soon. Waiting on a copy of my birth certificate I had to order from the state of New York to do so.

When you get a Passport they take the documents

When you get a Passport you surrender certain documents that are mailed back to you. This is to detect forgeries, thus they scan for "Real ID" to check and have evidence if you try fake documents.

YES

chewbacca wrote:

I just renewed mine about a year ago. It's a California driver license (non real ID compliant). I did not have to submit my passport, utility bills, paychecks, SSN, birth certificate, marriage license etc. I just filled out a renewal application online and went to the DMV to have a new photograph taken. That's it.

The last 2 renewals have been over the internet. I did not have to visit the DMV for the past 2 renewals. The third renewal I gotta have a new photo taken at the DMV so I could not do it online.

CA's policies of ID are another reason the rest of the country needs better ID's. Basically they give anyone a driver's license. BTW: how many languages are the voting ballots now printed in for each election? SF was over 60 when I left. Must cost taxpayers a small fortune because anyone can vote.

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Hacking

chewbacca wrote:
plunder wrote:

I suppose it's better to have a RealID and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Phil

We see it differently. I'm not against real ID per se. The idea to provide more information (birth or naturalization certificate, SSN, utility bills etc) to the DMV scares me. We've had enough horror hacking stories. I don't trust the DMV can protect their database against breach. I bet hackers are preparing to hit the DMV database. It's a 1 stop shop (or hack)... they'll get everything they need.

I'd be willing to bet that a substantial percentage of the US population has already been "hacked" in one way, shape or form.

Hackers have so many potential targets to pick from that the chance of being an identity theft victim is roughly the same as winning the lottery. These odds just keep shrinking with time and every new hack.

Yes, there will always be that slight chance but to me, it isn't worth depriving myself of things that make my life easier.

not secret years ago

bdhsfz6 wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that a substantial percentage of the US population has already been "hacked" in one way, shape or form

These days most people count Social Security Number as a really important thing to keep secret.

But when I went to college in 1967 attitudes were different. My SSN was my college student ID number. I wrote it on the checkout card every time I checked a book out of the college library. So I have trouble imagining my information is secret at all.

To flip sides of the argument, however, I had an episode just a couple of years ago in which some crook called up my credit card company and persuaded them to change my address. I learned this after spotting an unexpected $700 charge to my credit card at a hunting supply store several states away. The perpetrator apparently had placed an order, with instruction for delivery to the (new) address on the credit card. Fortunately someone on the store staff had smelled a rat, and they had not prepped the order for shipment when I called up a few hours later.

I suspect most people on this forum would improve their fraud odds more by adopting the habit of daily reviewing their credit card and financial account transactions than they would be avoiding Read ID registration.

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Real ID

I got mine. I had to go to DVM office, but went to one that wasn't busy. I may never use it. My flying days may be over - if I am lucky.

got the enhanced driver license instead ...

I figure that will be good until the Government decides it's not.

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Yes

We will get ours soon.

Rumors

Since the deadline for obtaining a Real ID is one month before the 2020 general election, there are rumors circulating about Real ID's being required to vote.

As of now, this is NOT the case in all 50 states. More information is available here:

https://www.voteriders.org/do-i-need-a-real-id-to-vote/

Done

Although I didn't have to, I decided to avoid the mad rush and took care of it about a month ago. I got very lucky and found a day when the MVA wasn't busy.

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