2018/2019 Honda Accord & Odysey Factory Garmin Navigation Reviews/Recommendations

 

I'm considering a new 2018 Honda Accord Touring with navigation and a 2019 Honda Odyssey Touring with navigation. I'd be very interested to know about Honda drivers experience with the latest generation of the Garmin based navigation in the 2018+ vehicles (which from my test drive appears to be a major leap forward from the previous Honda/Acura based system which was hopelessly out of date despite purchasing annual DVD map updates). I also have a Garmin DriveSmart 70LMT which is pretty loaded with features and I don't want to step down.

My questions about the Honda 2018+ factory navigation:

Is it reliable (crashes, freezes, location accuracy, routing engine, etc.)?
Is the POI and road data current / just as good as a dashboard Garmin?
Are there shortcomings/disadvantages with the factory nav compared with a dashboard unit?
How does it compare with the alternative of Apple CarPlay?

Hmm, guess not many have

Hmm, guess not many have this yet. Also wondering if I can load POI factory files into the Garmin based factory nav.

another thread

Here is another thread on Honda nav systems. We don't know if the 2018 version is the same as earlier years. Mgarledge is our Honda expert:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/47597

It is likely POIs can be loaded but proximity alerts cannot be made to work. That leaves out red light and speed camera alerts.

dobs108 smile

built-in v. standalone

You have to understand, that "Garmin based" doesn't mean it's this same like Garmin made standalone device. Garamin may design device, but software is usually different. So it doesn't have to work with POI files or maps updates like Garmin device. And it usually doesn't.

If you want to know what you can do with this GPS just ask at dealership or directly at Honda. Even some "unpublished" workarounds may not work with your version of nav or software.

Only car that had Garmin navigation that worked exactly like Garmin was Subaru. But they simply put in-dash mount for regular Garmin unit. But it was a few years ago and they don't do it anymore.

Honda NAV

On some Honda vehicle with Nav build in, map update must be done only at Dealer price range of Map update $200.00 +

Android Auto

That is one advantage of Android Auto/Apple CarPlay over the built ins. The maps are always as up to date as Google or Apple maps, and no update costs or dealer intervention. Of course the downside is that it requires a cell phone, signal and data connection.

I have Android Auto and still prefer my dedicated Garmin nuvi. But as Garmin seems to be on the decline and potentially gradually backing away from the dedicated PND's, I still would not buy a built-in and would instead select a car with Android Auto/Apple Car Play.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

well

I've a 2017 civic w/gps nav system

Good
-large screen
-easy to read

Bad
-cant iport pois
-Cant import from other gps (3597)
-many functions disabled if vehicle is in motion
-updates only once a year.
-unable to have different dash & gps brightness
-no school warnings
-software is buggy and they wont fix it

Garmin licenceses the name and thats where it ends.

Call Garmin, talk w/their tech support team and ask them about it

My Software is pre 2010 level in functions

My vote stay away

Ibe a post somewhere on here describing it all

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new info!

In a recent thread on this site, I just found that proximity alerts for POI files such as red light and speed cameras can run on an Android phone using Google Maps and navigation, and possibly Waze:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/48749

Credit goes to charlesd45.

The 2018 Honda Accord audio system display includes Android Auto that interfaces with the phone using a USB cable. The navigation runs on the phone and is displayed on the car audio display. The car touchscreen can be used and the car listens for Android voice commands using a button on the steering wheel.

The apps needed are the POI Loader app and Radardroid app, both available at the Play Store. For non-members of POI Factory, the POI Factory app is also needed from the Play Store.

dobs108 smile

Honda Nav Map Update

Holy Cow ! $200 for an update. That's crazy. I am looking at a new Honda Pilot, but will see if I can get the extras I want without getting the Navigation system.

android auto

Buy whatever model comes with a large enough dashboard display that has Android Auto. It doesn't need Honda navigation.

Navigation runs on the Android phone and displayed on the dashboard display. It uses Google Maps, not the internal Honda maps. See charlesd45's post on the apps needed for POIs:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/48749

dobs108 smile

Android Auto

The download if needed for Android Auto can be found at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and... . Video info preview https://www.android.com/auto/

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Android Auto.

I have used Android Auto for almost a year now and I have been trying to like it. But, there is just no way it measures up in function and features to my Garmin 3597 with Smartphone Link.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Nice car nav. it sounds like you have there.

I can't wait to get into a newer vehicle myself.

Wait for Navteq / Here sale

Driver 38 wrote:

On some Honda vehicle with Nav build in, map update must be done only at Dealer price range of Map update $200.00 +

New Hondas now come with 5 years of map updates free. For older vehicles, I've typically waited until Navteq / Here Navigation (the seller of the discs) puts them on sale, dropping the price substantially. They go on sale frequently particularly towards the end of the map year.

Factory Unit Map Updates

ptownoddy wrote:
Driver 38 wrote:

On some Honda vehicle with Nav build in, map update must be done only at Dealer price range of Map update $200.00 +

New Hondas now come with 5 years of map updates free. For older vehicles, I've typically waited until Navteq / Here Navigation (the seller of the discs) puts them on sale, dropping the price substantially. They go on sale frequently particularly towards the end of the map year.

WOW.... 5 years of free map updates!?

That's fantastic.

I own 3 Honda, 2 with Factory Nav systems but have only updated one of them once time due to the cost of map updates.

It's weird looking, but I use my 3590 on the dashboard right above the built-in Nav system. SOOOOOO much cheaper AND versatile, since I can add POI's to it. I can't do that with the built-in units.

Honda navi system

I would suggest that prior to purchase, you attempt to borrow a Honda for a weekend or at a minimum sit in the parking lot, in a car and input some sample destinations. I personally have found the built in system very difficult to use in finding destinations. In fact, if doing an extended car trip, I always take my Garmin 2689 and it often is my primary navigation device. It is exceptionally easy to use in comparison to the Honda system.

As an example (on the Honda), I can do a search on say "Panera Bread" and ask it to sort by distance. It does, giving me the longest distance away listed first. Now just how damn logical is that!

My system also does not give me what is called a "slip ramp" off the Pennsylvania Turnpike that has been there for about 8 years. I tried an update but it didn't show it and I refused to pay for the update. The dealer wasn't too happy but because I've purchased about nine vehicles from them over 40 years, they comped the upgrade.

I'm looking now to make another vehicle purchase and I will not seek a vehicle with the navi system.

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John from PA

Honda 2014 Accord built in Nav

pratzert wrote:
ptownoddy wrote:
Driver 38 wrote:

On some Honda vehicle with Nav build in, map update must be done only at Dealer price range of Map update $200.00 +

New Hondas now come with 5 years of map updates free. For older vehicles, I've typically waited until Navteq / Here Navigation (the seller of the discs) puts them on sale, dropping the price substantially. They go on sale frequently particularly towards the end of the map year.

WOW.... 5 years of free map updates!?

That's fantastic.

I own 3 Honda, 2 with Factory Nav systems but have only updated one of them once time due to the cost of map updates.

It's weird looking, but I use my 3590 on the dashboard right above the built-in Nav system. SOOOOOO much cheaper AND versatile, since I can add POI's to it. I can't do that with the built-in units.

I have a 2014 Honda Accord and I put POI's and the area redlight cameras in it. Here is how I do it.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42862

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

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John from PA wrote:

As an example (on the Honda), I can do a search on say "Panera Bread" and ask it to sort by distance. It does, giving me the longest distance away listed first. Now just how damn logical is that!

Honda drivers don't want to stop driving because it is so much fun & comfy. Hence the reason for the longest distance sorted at the top of the list. How's that for a logical thinking? smile

Honda NAV 2019

It may be too late for this but: We very recently bought a 2019 Honda Pilot with NAV. We expected the Garmin GPS software to work as it had in past Honda NAV systems at least up including 2017. We found it greatly changed for 2019, not for the better. The streets and roads are very under-labeled and with no obvious indication of how the labeled roads are chosen. It is certainly not by choosing the larger roads. The biggest issue I have is that the map view zooms in when you approach a turn to a very close-in (about 2 blocks) view and stays at that close view forever after the turn. The driver has to manually zoom back out after each turn to see a reasonable distance ahead in the trip. This is clearly a safety problem. The prior Honda Nav systems zoomed in smoothly and then automatically zoomed back out after the turn. I expected the new system to behave similarly. Honda has been totally unresponsive and has told us to take it up with Garmin. I consider the this new system useless as a valid NAV tool.

Well ...

That's a very weak reply from Honda. It's their car so their problem. If you had a problem with a tyre would they say you'd need to take it up with the tyre manufacturer?

Garmin's normal implementation of auto zoom zooms in and out so if it doesn't it must be due to a faulty device or the way Honda have implemented it.

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Just got a 2019 Honda CR-V

Just got a 2019 Honda CR-V and here is what I have discovered.

1 the vehicle comes with five years of updates FROM Garmin

2. The display is identical to my DriveSmart 55, Navi 1490 and Navi 2689

3. The updates require you to download a setup/update file from the car, take it to your computer, connect to Garmin and download it to the USB stick then tak the USB stick back to the CR-V. https://honda.garmin.com/honda/site;jsessionid=C44B425C5749C...

4. There is no information on purchasing an extension once your five years expire

5. I have not found anyway to update the POIs

So far is is a good substitute for the Garmin IF YOU DO NOT USE POIs

thanks

visiter 555, thanks for the info that the Honda GPS is really a Garmin. We know only a little about it. Loading POIs is still experimental.

dobs108 smile

It comes with a five year

It comes with a five year sub for updates which "may" be once a year.

Settings

Pilot2019 wrote:

It may be too late for this but: We very recently bought a 2019 Honda Pilot with NAV. We expected the Garmin GPS software to work as it had in past Honda NAV systems at least up including 2017. We found it greatly changed for 2019, not for the better. The streets and roads are very under-labeled and with no obvious indication of how the labeled roads are chosen. It is certainly not by choosing the larger roads. The biggest issue I have is that the map view zooms in when you approach a turn to a very close-in (about 2 blocks) view and stays at that close view forever after the turn. The driver has to manually zoom back out after each turn to see a reasonable distance ahead in the trip. This is clearly a safety problem. The prior Honda Nav systems zoomed in smoothly and then automatically zoomed back out after the turn. I expected the new system to behave similarly. Honda has been totally unresponsive and has told us to take it up with Garmin. I consider the this new system useless as a valid NAV tool.

I have a 2014 Accord. Over the last few years when you made a turn it would go half screen with the turn and after the turn it would go back to full screen. It started not going back to full screen. I dug into the settings and found a setting fot it to stay on half screen. I can't remember doing any thing to change the setting to half screen but I must have. I unchecked the setting and all is fine now. Maybe you have a setting to keep it zoomed in. Worth a look.
Mary

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Standalone the best

alandb wrote:

That is one advantage of Android Auto/Apple CarPlay over the built ins. The maps are always as up to date as Google or Apple maps, and no update costs or dealer intervention. Of course the downside is that it requires a cell phone, signal and data connection.

I have Android Auto and still prefer my dedicated Garmin nuvi. But as Garmin seems to be on the decline and potentially gradually backing away from the dedicated PND's, I still would not buy a built-in and would instead select a car with Android Auto/Apple Car Play.

I prefer my standalone unit. I keep it updated and can take it no-matter what vehicle I'm driving. All my POI's are always there.

Standalone the best

alandb wrote:

That is one advantage of Android Auto/Apple CarPlay over the built ins. The maps are always as up to date as Google or Apple maps, and no update costs or dealer intervention. Of course the downside is that it requires a cell phone, signal and data connection.

I have Android Auto and still prefer my dedicated Garmin nuvi. But as Garmin seems to be on the decline and potentially gradually backing away from the dedicated PND's, I still would not buy a built-in and would instead select a car with Android Auto/Apple Car Play.

I prefer my standalone unit. I keep it updated and can take it no-matter what vehicle I'm driving. All my POI's are always there.

I prefer my standalone,

I prefer my standalone, also. I don't have a built in or Apple/Android Car Play. I do use Waze, a lot, alongside my Garmin. I used Smartlink and now Drive for Traffic. Even running Waze, Data use is minimal. Waze used about 150 mb for a round trip from VA to FL and back. Smartlink had a very, very small foot print. In the kb range.

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Frank Nuvi 3597LMT 37.322760, -79.511267