Caught me by surprize this am. In the process of updating, thanks!
-- Garmin 205, 260W, 1450LMT, 2460LMT, HEREwego for iPhone ... all still mapping strong.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 10:16am
PJGMIG
15 years
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download
Hi, just started 5 mins ago....10:09 EST..My SD card has only 1.63GB free,,, Guess I need to wipe it out in order to get what I need?
Yes or No.. ??
-- PJG
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 10:25am
romanviking
13 years
Updated OK!
Both of my
Updated OK!
Both of my Garmin's and Basecamp have been updated successfully.
-- romanviking
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 10:28am
CraigW
16 years
Yes
PJGMIG wrote:
Hi, just started 5 mins ago....10:09 EST..My SD card has only 1.63GB free,,, Guess I need to wipe it out in order to get what I need?
Yes or No.. ??
Yes, either delete what's on the SD now or use a different SD card.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 12:05pm
PJGMIG
15 years
MapSource Issue
HI..If I should post this someplace ELSE, DELETE, please redirect me.
Using MapSource(ver 6.16) for a route and no detailed route info appears under directions in my my route.
example
it shows starting point....to destination 100 miles.. no route info?
Please advise.
Thank You
-- PJG
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 10:49am
PJGMIG
15 years
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download- clean SD card
Craig....thank You
-- PJG
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 12:40pm
mcginkleschmidt
12 years
Large Fullscreen JCV File Questions
Does anyone know the file name for the newest large Garmin fullscreen, lane-assisted, photo-realistic JCV file, that was named D3060230A.jcv for the 2018.10 map update and D3060220Afor the 2017.30 map update? I would expect the file to be named D3060240A.jcv but a Google search for this file name comes up empty.
Second question: Does anyone know the Garmin model number that first used the above-mentioned large JCV files natively, i.e., the large JCV file comes with the navigation receiver, does not require a custom upgrade and downloads the large JCV file during the map update process?
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 1:51pm
werewolf (not verified)
Gramin tech support
werewolf wrote:
...
So many people will be calling Garmin tomorrow there will probably be a three hour hold time. Oh I found one trick that used to work to get through to them quickly...
So much for my trick, and yep they are calling Garmin this morning... "all of our product specialists are busy. you can expect a wait time of at least 30 to 35 minutes..." I'll try again later or tomorrow.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 1:01pm
CraigW
16 years
Large JCV for new map
mcginkleschmidt wrote:
Does anyone know the file name for the newest large Garmin fullscreen, lane-assisted, photo-realistic JCV file, that was named D3060230A.jcv for the 2018.10 map update and D3060220Afor the 2017.30 map update? I would expect the file to be named D3060240A.jcv but a Google search for this file name comes up empty.
Second question: Does anyone know the Garmin model number that first used the above-mentioned large JCV files natively, i.e., the large JCV file comes with the navigation receiver, does not require a custom upgrade and downloads the large JCV file during the map update process?
The first device that received the Large JCV was likely the nuvi 7x5 series (August 2008):
Regarding the Large JCV file for the 2018.20 map, it's probably too early for an internet search to find it. My guess is that the easiest thing to do is wait a few days upon which a thread will appear here with the link to download, filename, size, etc.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 1:02pm
alandb
16 years
large JCV
Junction views were introduced on the nuvi 7x5T series in 2008. Quarterly map updates (instead of annual) were also introduced at that time and lifetime map subscription followed soon thereafter.
The full screen full coverage JCV file for 2018.20 is D3060240A.jcv (823 MB or 865,447,975 bytes). At this time, the large JCV file only downloads with map updates for the nuvi 7x5 series and zumo 6xx.
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download- Clean SD Card
PJGMIG wrote:
Craig....thank You
DL quicker than expected via WIFI. Approx 1.2 hrs
Thanks for the help from all
-- PJG
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 1:49pm
jackrabbit000
11 years
Large JCV
alandb wrote:
Junction views were introduced on the nuvi 7x5T series in 2008. Quarterly map updates (instead of annual) were also introduced at that time and lifetime map subscription followed soon thereafter.
The full screen full coverage JCV file for 2018.20 is D3060240A.jcv (823 MB or 865,447,975 bytes). At this time, the large JCV file only downloads with map updates for the nuvi 7x5 series and zumo 6xx.
Any idea why Garmin doesn't post the large jvc for download anymore. A lot of us still want/need it. The small jcv is kind of useless where I live. Nothing shows up.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 1:55pm
pratzert
18 years
2018.2
Thanks for the info !
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 2:08pm
windwalker
15 years
Now lets see how many pages before it expires
I'm betting 27
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 4:08pm
alandb
16 years
Only Garmin knows.
jackrabbit000 wrote:
Any idea why Garmin doesn't post the large jvc for download anymore. A lot of us still want/need it. The small jcv is kind of useless where I live. Nothing shows up.
My guess is that there are a dwindling number of 1390/14xx and 8x5 owners with lifetime map update subscriptions that care enough to go through the effort to download and install the large JCV. So they make a few people mad, but save the hassle of trying to support a non standard process.
The thing that annoys me is that there is no technical reason that they can't just include the large JCV file with the map update ... especially on the 1390/14xx nuvis where map update to SD is supported by Garmin Express. The 8x5 series is more problematic, but I think Garmin could still come up with a way to do it without much effort.
Haven't really found anything that sticks out to me with this new update yet...still browsing through...
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 3:05pm
ruggb
14 years
I have a 765 and a 1490
If I
I have a 765 and a 1490
If I update he 765 I will get the large JVC file - is that correct?
how do I put that onto the 1490?
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 4:04pm
alandb
16 years
large JCV
On the 765, you will find the new large JCV file in folder /Garmin/JCV. Copy the file to a temporary location on your PC. Then plug in your 1490. Find the /.system/JCV folder and rename the .JCV file in there to something else (eg. change .JCV to .SAV). Then create folder /Garmin/JCV on the SD card for your 1490 and copy the large JCV file from your computer into that folder. If the /Garmin/JCV folder is already on your SD card, delete or rename any files that are in there before you copy the large JCV file there.
Note that on your 1490, you will need to expose the hidden .system folder if you haven't already done that. There is a FAQ here that tells you how to do that.
Yesterday when you encountered your map problem there were several ideas given & I'm curious in knowing if you were successful ?
-- Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 5:56pm
ruggb
14 years
got to wait till wife comes
got to wait till wife comes home and update her 765 so I can put the jcv file onto my 1490.
I had to wipe the SD card this time to install the update.
I don't remember having to do that b4.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 6:11pm
jackrabbit000
11 years
Worked
canuk wrote:
Yesterday when you encountered your map problem there were several ideas given & I'm curious in knowing if you were successful ?
I deleted all the downloaded files in the locations that you posted and did an update on the map. Re-downloaded the new map and it worked right away. The original map must have glitched out and every update/re-install kept building the defective map and wouldn't work and gave me the same results. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Now all I need is a large jcv.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 6:12pm
hoophabit
14 years
2018.20
GE updated my computer and old 1490T without difficulties.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 7:16pm
EV Driver
13 years
Thanks
Thanks for letting us know it was available. Just installed it.
Mon, 05/22/2017 - 11:37pm
helloguys
12 years
Wow! That was quick!
Wow! That was quick!
-- Garmin DriveLuxe 51 LTM-S
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 8:33am
datrays
7 years
Map update
When I used GE to update the maps on my older Nuvi it only updated the lower 49 states even though the previous map included Canada and I'm installing to a SD card with plenty of space. Was able force the install of the full map.
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 8:51am
SilverRhino
15 years
Have To Wait
I'll wait until I get back home in August to update ..... RV Park Wifi not the fastest!
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 9:40am
Orlandorealtor
13 years
.
Finally! Will put on today, thanks!
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 9:43am
Orlandorealtor
13 years
.
Hope it has the new roads
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 9:51am
metricman
16 years
3597
Downloaded and installed in less than 30 minutes.
-- Metricman
DriveSmart 76
Williamsburg, VA
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 12:35pm
ChefDon16
12 years
Thanks
Thanks for keeping us informed!
-- ChefDon
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 12:40pm
werewolf (not verified)
I just wasted one hour and
I just wasted one hour and 19 minutes on my cell phone with Garmin and what they - the high muckety muck (the first Garmin rep's own words) - wound up telling me was the same thing they tried to tell me two years ago - I can't update the maps on my Garmin 276C and the lifetime maps I bought were only for the lifetime of the device which they declare is now over, reason being my device doesn't have enough room for the new maps, which is a totally spurious explanation because I have always installed the maps directly to my computer and from there moved the maps I needed to the 276C and it has plenty of room for the maps I need.
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 12:53pm
alandb
16 years
Sorry to hear.
Sorry to hear that werewolf ... but don't give up just yet. Keep your eye on MapUpdater, and Garmin may still enable it for 2018.20.
If not and if you have a friend or relative with a newer device, see if they will allow you to install the map update to your computer for their device. Then see if you can get the unlock code for your 276C using myGarmin. I don't remember the exact process for doing that, but it has come up before in the forums. I have no idea if this would work on a 276C, but it may be worth a try.
Yeah, alandb, I thought of that. If I can get a computer with the 2018.2 maps installed than perhaps I can move them to my 276 same as I always do with my computer. I forgot the unlock code procedure but if it works on my computer it should work on another, like say I bought a new computer. And yes I'll keep checking the Mapupdater, because the high muckety said that Garmin stopped supporting it years ago and he didn't know how I was using it to update all along, but I'm skeptical because in the past I think the updates appeared right away on Mapupdater as soon as they became available.
Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 1:43pm
sethr
12 years
Time, etc.
Started at 1300 EDT. It finished at 1334.
Download was both 2797 and the computer.
The JCV shows 495,924KB.
Something strange: Going to the Store under this device (I have two others registered) and clicking Vehicle & Voices.
FEATURE NOT AVAIALBLE
Vehicle & Voices is no longer available. You can keep andy custom vehicles and voices you have, yada, yada, yada....
You won't be able to use Express to install new ones or remove them.
Huh?
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 1:44pm
CraigW
16 years
3597 refurb?
werewolf wrote:
...
Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
Yes indeed, a Garmin offer of 10-20% off is hardly worth it when you can probably get a better deal at Best Buy or an online seller.
Thoughts on a replacement? I'd look at the factory-refurbed nuvi 3597:
Well, a Montana might be a good possibility, but by the time you buy the device, automotive mount and CN map, it gets pretty expensive. And unfortunately, last I heard, it was no longer possible to buy a lifetime map subscription from Garmin for devices that don't come with City Navigator pre installed (Montana being one of them). This is because Garmin no longer sells the DVD version of the map.
You might be better off buying 2 devices ... one for road navigation and another for off road. It would probably be cheaper in the long run.
Edit ... And I agree with CraigW ... the 3597LMTHD refurb can't be beat for road navigation. You could get the nuvi 3597 for road navigation and a new Oregon 600 for offroad, less than $400 for both.
Yeah, alandb, I thought of that. If I can get a computer with the 2018.2 maps installed than perhaps I can move them to my 276 same as I always do with my computer. I forgot the unlock code procedure but if it works on my computer it should work on another, like say I bought a new computer. And yes I'll keep checking the Mapupdater, because the high muckety said that Garmin stopped supporting it years ago and he didn't know how I was using it to update all along, but I'm skeptical because in the past I think the updates appeared right away on Mapupdater as soon as they became available.
Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
3597 refurbs. Gpscity.com, less than$200.. Search for the thread titled 3507 refurbish on sale.
What Garmin model do you have? Is it a LM or LMT? In other words, does it have lifetime maps?
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 7:59pm
CraigW
16 years
Celsius
sussamb wrote:
... it'll have to wait as I'm just about to start a 268 mile hike
What is that in Celsius?
Tue, 05/23/2017 - 9:26pm
an94
13 years
I'm so excited I'm having
I'm so excited I'm having panic attacks!
-- an94
Wed, 05/24/2017 - 12:31am
werewolf (not verified)
Thanks for the refurb 3597
Thanks for the refurb 3597 suggestion, guys. I'm ogling it now.
Wed, 05/24/2017 - 11:24am
alandb
16 years
3597
@werewolf ... one thing is for sure ...
If you get the 3597 you will definitely be able to get the 2018.20 map installed on your computer. And that will give you the opportunity to see if you can unlock and MapInstall it to your 276C.
Good point - and what I'm trying to figure out now is what is the map situation with their refurb GPS and what do those teeny weeny little footnotes mean...and of course the importance of the info is always inverse to the size of the font! That's me asking questions under Q&A
Can I ask you a a question about the 3597? Will it show dirt roads in the desert like my 276C does using City Navigator? Will it show my waypoints there? Will I be able to make new waypoints there and change or delete my old ones?
I've been using GPS from way back, when almost no one knew what GPS meant, from the old Garmin Model 2 and then the 2+. But I've been using the 276C and its predecessor, the 176, for so long I don't know what the capabilities of the new models are. I understand they've largely been simplified and dumbed down, but they also have lots of great new features. If they can do the things I mentioned above and store enough waypoints - I have 689 now - than they might suit me, or at least that 3597 might.
PS MapUpdater is still only offering CN 2018.1
Wed, 05/24/2017 - 12:22pm
alandb
16 years
3597
A couple of points ... theGPSstore.com has the 3597LMTHD refurb for $50 less than gpsCity. They are both reliable online stores that many POI Factory members have purchased from.
I would think that the City Navigator map would show the same roads whether you are looking at them on a 3597 or the 276C. But then, this is Garmin, so who knows? If you want to give a couple of specific examples I will check it out on my 3597. You can create/edit/delete up to 1000 waypoints on a 3597 ... they are called "Saved Places". The downside of 3597 saved places is the large ugly icon that is displayed ... no way to use your own custom icons unless you convert them with POI Loader to custom POI's. If you convert them to custom POI's though, you can not edit or delete the individual POI's on the device itself.
You should be able to transfer your 276C waypoints (through BaseCamp or MapSource) over to the 3597 (not sure if 276C is compatible with BaseCamp, but Mapsource should work.)
The map you get with the 3597 will probably be 2 or more years old, but with the lifetime updates, you will be able to update to 2018.20 with Garmin Express.
Another thing for your consideration ... the battery life on the 3597 is pretty dismal compared to the handhelds ... about an hour with full screen brightness. I am not sure how you use your 276C, but with the 3597, you need to keep it powered.
I do keep it powered, mounted on my vehicle dashboard, plugged in the cig lighter.
276C is compatible with Basecamp, tho I am more familiar with the older Mappsource.
The large ugly icon sounds like it might block out parts of the map, no?
I must take a look at GPSStore too then.
The question is does it or doesn't the refurb come with the "lifetime" updates, which is what I have been trying to figure out in their Q&A section. If I have to buy it separately it might bring the price up closer to a nice new unit. Also, when will garmin's lawyers decide that the "lifetime" of the 3597 is over? How long has it been off their catalogue?
I won't really be able to determine whether a different GPS suits me until I actually try it out in the field. Can I return a refurb if I don't like it? That info would be on their website.
Thanks for your help!
Wed, 05/24/2017 - 12:57pm
alandb
16 years
Lifetime maps.
Lifetime maps are included with refurbs. theGPSstore lists it as "Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD Refurbished with Lifetime Maps". In fact, lifetime map subscriptions from Garmin transfer with the device even with devices bought used.
As far as returns, I have never returned an item to either of the stores mentioned. But reading their return policies, it appears that gpsCity has a more liberal policy than theGPSstore. For full disclosure, I bought my 3597 from theGPSstore (about 3 years ago).
Lifetime maps are included with refurbs. theGPSstore lists it as "Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD Refurbished with Lifetime Maps". In fact, lifetime map subscriptions from Garmin transfer with the device even with devices bought used.
So when their little footnote says that only certain models have the lifetime updates, are there different models of the 3597, some with and some without? That's what I was trying to find out from them in their Q&A section and I seem to be having a hard time getting a straight answer, last response being a suggestion that I call Garmin Support.
Thanks!
Caught me by surprize this am. In the process of updating, thanks!
Garmin 205, 260W, 1450LMT, 2460LMT, HEREwego for iPhone ... all still mapping strong.
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download
Hi, just started 5 mins ago....10:09 EST..My SD card has only 1.63GB free,,, Guess I need to wipe it out in order to get what I need?
Yes or No.. ??
PJG
Updated OK! Both of my
Updated OK!
Both of my Garmin's and Basecamp have been updated successfully.
romanviking
Yes
Hi, just started 5 mins ago....10:09 EST..My SD card has only 1.63GB free,,, Guess I need to wipe it out in order to get what I need?
Yes or No.. ??
Yes, either delete what's on the SD now or use a different SD card.
MapSource Issue
HI..If I should post this someplace ELSE, DELETE, please redirect me.
Using MapSource(ver 6.16) for a route and no detailed route info appears under directions in my my route.
example
it shows starting point....to destination 100 miles.. no route info?
Please advise.
Thank You
PJG
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download- clean SD card
Craig....thank You
PJG
Large Fullscreen JCV File Questions
Does anyone know the file name for the newest large Garmin fullscreen, lane-assisted, photo-realistic JCV file, that was named D3060230A.jcv for the 2018.10 map update and D3060220Afor the 2017.30 map update? I would expect the file to be named D3060240A.jcv but a Google search for this file name comes up empty.
Second question: Does anyone know the Garmin model number that first used the above-mentioned large JCV files natively, i.e., the large JCV file comes with the navigation receiver, does not require a custom upgrade and downloads the large JCV file during the map update process?
Gramin tech support
...
So many people will be calling Garmin tomorrow there will probably be a three hour hold time. Oh I found one trick that used to work to get through to them quickly...
So much for my trick, and yep they are calling Garmin this morning... "all of our product specialists are busy. you can expect a wait time of at least 30 to 35 minutes..." I'll try again later or tomorrow.
Large JCV for new map
Does anyone know the file name for the newest large Garmin fullscreen, lane-assisted, photo-realistic JCV file, that was named D3060230A.jcv for the 2018.10 map update and D3060220Afor the 2017.30 map update? I would expect the file to be named D3060240A.jcv but a Google search for this file name comes up empty.
Second question: Does anyone know the Garmin model number that first used the above-mentioned large JCV files natively, i.e., the large JCV file comes with the navigation receiver, does not require a custom upgrade and downloads the large JCV file during the map update process?
The first device that received the Large JCV was likely the nuvi 7x5 series (August 2008):
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42240
If I'm wrong, someone will correct me soon.
Regarding the Large JCV file for the 2018.20 map, it's probably too early for an internet search to find it. My guess is that the easiest thing to do is wait a few days upon which a thread will appear here with the link to download, filename, size, etc.
large JCV
Junction views were introduced on the nuvi 7x5T series in 2008. Quarterly map updates (instead of annual) were also introduced at that time and lifetime map subscription followed soon thereafter.
The full screen full coverage JCV file for 2018.20 is D3060240A.jcv (823 MB or 865,447,975 bytes). At this time, the large JCV file only downloads with map updates for the nuvi 7x5 series and zumo 6xx.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download- Clean SD Card
Craig....thank You
DL quicker than expected via WIFI. Approx 1.2 hrs
Thanks for the help from all
PJG
Large JCV
Junction views were introduced on the nuvi 7x5T series in 2008. Quarterly map updates (instead of annual) were also introduced at that time and lifetime map subscription followed soon thereafter.
The full screen full coverage JCV file for 2018.20 is D3060240A.jcv (823 MB or 865,447,975 bytes). At this time, the large JCV file only downloads with map updates for the nuvi 7x5 series and zumo 6xx.
Any idea why Garmin doesn't post the large jvc for download anymore. A lot of us still want/need it. The small jcv is kind of useless where I live. Nothing shows up.
2018.2
Thanks for the info !
Now lets see how many pages before it expires
I'm betting 27
Only Garmin knows.
Any idea why Garmin doesn't post the large jvc for download anymore. A lot of us still want/need it. The small jcv is kind of useless where I live. Nothing shows up.
My guess is that there are a dwindling number of 1390/14xx and 8x5 owners with lifetime map update subscriptions that care enough to go through the effort to download and install the large JCV. So they make a few people mad, but save the hassle of trying to support a non standard process.
The thing that annoys me is that there is no technical reason that they can't just include the large JCV file with the map update ... especially on the 1390/14xx nuvis where map update to SD is supported by Garmin Express. The 8x5 series is more problematic, but I think Garmin could still come up with a way to do it without much effort.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Well..
Haven't really found anything that sticks out to me with this new update yet...still browsing through...
I have a 765 and a 1490 If I
I have a 765 and a 1490
If I update he 765 I will get the large JVC file - is that correct?
how do I put that onto the 1490?
large JCV
On the 765, you will find the new large JCV file in folder /Garmin/JCV. Copy the file to a temporary location on your PC. Then plug in your 1490. Find the /.system/JCV folder and rename the .JCV file in there to something else (eg. change .JCV to .SAV). Then create folder /Garmin/JCV on the SD card for your 1490 and copy the large JCV file from your computer into that folder. If the /Garmin/JCV folder is already on your SD card, delete or rename any files that are in there before you copy the large JCV file there.
Note that on your 1490, you will need to expose the hidden .system folder if you haven't already done that. There is a FAQ here that tells you how to do that.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
@ jackrabbit000
Yesterday when you encountered your map problem there were several ideas given & I'm curious in knowing if you were successful ?
Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk
got to wait till wife comes
got to wait till wife comes home and update her 765 so I can put the jcv file onto my 1490.
I had to wipe the SD card this time to install the update.
I don't remember having to do that b4.
Worked
Yesterday when you encountered your map problem there were several ideas given & I'm curious in knowing if you were successful ?
I deleted all the downloaded files in the locations that you posted and did an update on the map. Re-downloaded the new map and it worked right away. The original map must have glitched out and every update/re-install kept building the defective map and wouldn't work and gave me the same results. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Now all I need is a large jcv.
2018.20
GE updated my computer and old 1490T without difficulties.
Thanks
Thanks for letting us know it was available. Just installed it.
Wow! That was quick!
Wow! That was quick!
Garmin DriveLuxe 51 LTM-S
Map update
When I used GE to update the maps on my older Nuvi it only updated the lower 49 states even though the previous map included Canada and I'm installing to a SD card with plenty of space. Was able force the install of the full map.
Have To Wait
I'll wait until I get back home in August to update ..... RV Park Wifi not the fastest!
.
Finally! Will put on today, thanks!
.
Hope it has the new roads
3597
Downloaded and installed in less than 30 minutes.
Metricman DriveSmart 76 Williamsburg, VA
Thanks
Thanks for keeping us informed!
ChefDon
I just wasted one hour and
I just wasted one hour and 19 minutes on my cell phone with Garmin and what they - the high muckety muck (the first Garmin rep's own words) - wound up telling me was the same thing they tried to tell me two years ago - I can't update the maps on my Garmin 276C and the lifetime maps I bought were only for the lifetime of the device which they declare is now over, reason being my device doesn't have enough room for the new maps, which is a totally spurious explanation because I have always installed the maps directly to my computer and from there moved the maps I needed to the 276C and it has plenty of room for the maps I need.
Sorry to hear.
Sorry to hear that werewolf ... but don't give up just yet. Keep your eye on MapUpdater, and Garmin may still enable it for 2018.20.
If not and if you have a friend or relative with a newer device, see if they will allow you to install the map update to your computer for their device. Then see if you can get the unlock code for your 276C using myGarmin. I don't remember the exact process for doing that, but it has come up before in the forums. I have no idea if this would work on a 276C, but it may be worth a try.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
Yeah, alandb, I thought of
Yeah, alandb, I thought of that. If I can get a computer with the 2018.2 maps installed than perhaps I can move them to my 276 same as I always do with my computer. I forgot the unlock code procedure but if it works on my computer it should work on another, like say I bought a new computer. And yes I'll keep checking the Mapupdater, because the high muckety said that Garmin stopped supporting it years ago and he didn't know how I was using it to update all along, but I'm skeptical because in the past I think the updates appeared right away on Mapupdater as soon as they became available.
Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
Time, etc.
Started at 1300 EDT. It finished at 1334.
Download was both 2797 and the computer.
The JCV shows 495,924KB.
Something strange: Going to the Store under this device (I have two others registered) and clicking Vehicle & Voices.
FEATURE NOT AVAIALBLE
Vehicle & Voices is no longer available. You can keep andy custom vehicles and voices you have, yada, yada, yada....
You won't be able to use Express to install new ones or remove them.
Huh?
3597 refurb?
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Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
Yes indeed, a Garmin offer of 10-20% off is hardly worth it when you can probably get a better deal at Best Buy or an online seller.
Thoughts on a replacement? I'd look at the factory-refurbed nuvi 3597:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/46627
Montana?
Well, a Montana might be a good possibility, but by the time you buy the device, automotive mount and CN map, it gets pretty expensive. And unfortunately, last I heard, it was no longer possible to buy a lifetime map subscription from Garmin for devices that don't come with City Navigator pre installed (Montana being one of them). This is because Garmin no longer sells the DVD version of the map.
You might be better off buying 2 devices ... one for road navigation and another for off road. It would probably be cheaper in the long run.
Edit ... And I agree with CraigW ... the 3597LMTHD refurb can't be beat for road navigation. You could get the nuvi 3597 for road navigation and a new Oregon 600 for offroad, less than $400 for both.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
3597
Yeah, alandb, I thought of that. If I can get a computer with the 2018.2 maps installed than perhaps I can move them to my 276 same as I always do with my computer. I forgot the unlock code procedure but if it works on my computer it should work on another, like say I bought a new computer. And yes I'll keep checking the Mapupdater, because the high muckety said that Garmin stopped supporting it years ago and he didn't know how I was using it to update all along, but I'm skeptical because in the past I think the updates appeared right away on Mapupdater as soon as they became available.
Oh - The Garmin man said that they are temporarily offering a 20% discount if I buy another GPS from them, but that doesn't apply to new and hot selling items. Any suggestions on something not new and not too hot that might replace my 276C which I mainly use for road driving but also off the road into the desert?
3597 refurbs. Gpscity.com, less than$200.. Search for the thread titled 3507 refurbish on sale.
Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267
updated all 4 of my NUvis
updated all 4 of my NUvis
DriveSmart 50, DriveSmart 60, nuvi 2595, nuvi 3760,
Map Update 2018.20 Ready To Download
Thanks
update
how do i get the 2018 for garmin
Servant of God
Lifetime maps
how do i get the 2018 for garmin
What Garmin model do you have? Is it a LM or LMT? In other words, does it have lifetime maps?
Celsius
... it'll have to wait as I'm just about to start a 268 mile hike
What is that in Celsius?
I'm so excited I'm having
I'm so excited I'm having panic attacks!
an94
Thanks for the refurb 3597
Thanks for the refurb 3597 suggestion, guys. I'm ogling it now.
3597
@werewolf ... one thing is for sure ...
If you get the 3597 you will definitely be able to get the 2018.20 map installed on your computer. And that will give you the opportunity to see if you can unlock and MapInstall it to your 276C.
Keep us posted.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
alanb
Good point - and what I'm trying to figure out now is what is the map situation with their refurb GPS and what do those teeny weeny little footnotes mean...and of course the importance of the info is always inverse to the size of the font! That's me asking questions under Q&A
http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-nuvi-3597lmthd-newly-overhaule...
Can I ask you a a question about the 3597? Will it show dirt roads in the desert like my 276C does using City Navigator? Will it show my waypoints there? Will I be able to make new waypoints there and change or delete my old ones?
I've been using GPS from way back, when almost no one knew what GPS meant, from the old Garmin Model 2 and then the 2+. But I've been using the 276C and its predecessor, the 176, for so long I don't know what the capabilities of the new models are. I understand they've largely been simplified and dumbed down, but they also have lots of great new features. If they can do the things I mentioned above and store enough waypoints - I have 689 now - than they might suit me, or at least that 3597 might.
PS MapUpdater is still only offering CN 2018.1
3597
A couple of points ... theGPSstore.com has the 3597LMTHD refurb for $50 less than gpsCity. They are both reliable online stores that many POI Factory members have purchased from.
I would think that the City Navigator map would show the same roads whether you are looking at them on a 3597 or the 276C. But then, this is Garmin, so who knows? If you want to give a couple of specific examples I will check it out on my 3597. You can create/edit/delete up to 1000 waypoints on a 3597 ... they are called "Saved Places". The downside of 3597 saved places is the large ugly icon that is displayed ... no way to use your own custom icons unless you convert them with POI Loader to custom POI's. If you convert them to custom POI's though, you can not edit or delete the individual POI's on the device itself.
You should be able to transfer your 276C waypoints (through BaseCamp or MapSource) over to the 3597 (not sure if 276C is compatible with BaseCamp, but Mapsource should work.)
The map you get with the 3597 will probably be 2 or more years old, but with the lifetime updates, you will be able to update to 2018.20 with Garmin Express.
Another thing for your consideration ... the battery life on the 3597 is pretty dismal compared to the handhelds ... about an hour with full screen brightness. I am not sure how you use your 276C, but with the 3597, you need to keep it powered.
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
I do keep it powered,
I do keep it powered, mounted on my vehicle dashboard, plugged in the cig lighter.
276C is compatible with Basecamp, tho I am more familiar with the older Mappsource.
The large ugly icon sounds like it might block out parts of the map, no?
I must take a look at GPSStore too then.
The question is does it or doesn't the refurb come with the "lifetime" updates, which is what I have been trying to figure out in their Q&A section. If I have to buy it separately it might bring the price up closer to a nice new unit. Also, when will garmin's lawyers decide that the "lifetime" of the 3597 is over? How long has it been off their catalogue?
I won't really be able to determine whether a different GPS suits me until I actually try it out in the field. Can I return a refurb if I don't like it? That info would be on their website.
Thanks for your help!
Lifetime maps.
Lifetime maps are included with refurbs. theGPSstore lists it as "Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD Refurbished with Lifetime Maps". In fact, lifetime map subscriptions from Garmin transfer with the device even with devices bought used.
As far as returns, I have never returned an item to either of the stores mentioned. But reading their return policies, it appears that gpsCity has a more liberal policy than theGPSstore. For full disclosure, I bought my 3597 from theGPSstore (about 3 years ago).
Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon
alandb
Lifetime maps are included with refurbs. theGPSstore lists it as "Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD Refurbished with Lifetime Maps". In fact, lifetime map subscriptions from Garmin transfer with the device even with devices bought used.
So when their little footnote says that only certain models have the lifetime updates, are there different models of the 3597, some with and some without? That's what I was trying to find out from them in their Q&A section and I seem to be having a hard time getting a straight answer, last response being a suggestion that I call Garmin Support.