Are there any current nüvi models with British Daniel?

 

My 1350LMT seems to be totally toasted. I know that any nüvi I choose to replace it will have the basic features I need, so there's only one "extra" I really want to find and there's a lot of conflicting info about it. I've been going in circles for hours trying to sort this out...

Do any of you know of currently-available models that either come with British Daniel as a voice option by default or have it available as a download via Garmin Express > Extras?

Like a lot of folks, I'm extremely attached to Daniel. It didn't come with the 1350, so I had to track down an old file and add it manually. That worked pretty well, but I'd prefer not to have to jump through hoops again.

So far, I've mostly been looking at the 52 and the 2597 (voice command would be nice). Any suggestions or recommendations are appreciated.

Yes indeed...

...although Daniel doesn't come stock with any new nuvi to my knowledge. But Daniel (plus British Emily, both Aussies and even Asian Indian Sangeeta) will be found in the English voice extras you can download with Garmin Express as you've already noted:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42708

Note that the full English language set of TTS3 voices is something like 600-900MB so the download/installation will be maybe a quarter the time frame you experience for a map update.

Before adding all these English voices, it may be a good idea to (after doing a full backup of your device, of course) delete the foreign language voices you'll never use.

From the link, note that the newer devices that "Speak Real Directions" with Garmin "Real Voice" will use the TTS3 voices. I think it likely that all new devices can use all the offered voices but I can't confirm it since I don't have one of each model, so take what I say with a tiny grain of salt. rolleyes

Since you mention the nuvi 2597 and 52 specifically, my guess is that the 2597 uses the best TTS3 voices. It's possible that the 52 uses the lowest quality voice engine and uses the small size lower quality voices. It'd be nice if someone with a nuvi 52 could confirm or correct my thoughts. I think your old 1350 used the mid-level voice engine, so if the 52 uses the lowest level engine, you may notice a lesser voice quality than you had with the 1350.

Other non-voice details: It looks like both of your potential purchases come without a powered mount which is the same as with your 1350. Note that the 52 is a Lower 49 state map device while the 2597 is a full North America map device. As noted earlier, the 2597 both has Voice Control and Real Directions. The 2597 has Trip Planner while the 52 doesn't. If it were my choice, I'd go for the 2597. In any event, I'd also look for Factory refurbished units in addition to new ones (although a quick search shows me refurbed 2597s selling for only $15 less than new, so unless you can do better, I might suggest buying a new one).

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I believe Craig has covered your questions on Daniel but describe what your 1350 is doing so we don't give up there too quickly.

I would be interested in

I would be interested in this one.

[I hope this is somewhat

[I hope this is somewhat coherent, because I've literally been up all night long, having sat here non-stop since 6pm until now, 10:58am, researching this stuff and my brain is completely fried.]

I looked the issue up on the Garmin forums and the solution that worked for others didn't work for me, so I'm pretty sure my unit is gone, gone, gone. I've spent hours reading and researching and have found nothing that's worked.

I was rear-ended by someone in December, which caused my nüvi to fly into the back seat pretty hard. It took me a while to even find it. There was no physical damage that I could see.

After getting the vehicle repaired, every time I plugged the Garmin in, the socket fuse blew. The repair shop replaced the inner sleeve of the cigarette lighter and ran several tests; my car definitely wasn't the problem. I (and two separate repair shops) thought it was probably my car charger (an AC plug type) that had been damaged when it got yanked out of the cigarette lighter socket. So I ordered a new one. Meanwhile...

I dug out my Garmin USB cable and connected the nüvi to my car's built-in USB port (instead of the cigarette lighter socket). When I did that, the nüvi would only show me a screen with a tower/line/GPS graphic. When I would unplug it, it behaved normally, but kept giving me the low battery warning because no matter how long I left it plugged in, it wasn't charging. (I figured my battery must just be old and couldn't hold a charge on its own for long any more.) So I couldn't use it either way, plugged or unplugged.

At that point, I thought the graphic must be indicating that it wanted me to hook it up to a computer to do a maps update. I hadn't updated my maps since January 2013 and it had been giving me reminders for a while, so I figured it had finally gone on strike on purpose as a way of forcing me to finally update. So after I got home from a day of not being able to use it at all, I brought it into the house to update the maps.

When I connected it to my computer, it loaded, and again had the tower/line/GPS graphic (which I now know is Mass Storage/MTP mode screen). I was able to complete the update.

When I unmounted the unit after updating, that's when it went all the way downhill.

Now it won't work even hooked up to my computer. It won't charge, it wont turn on or off (via the power button, anyway), it won't reset. When I have it plugged into a USB port, the logo just keeps coming on and going off, repeatedly. On for about two seconds, then off for two seconds, then on, then off, forever. I found several mentions of this behavior on the Garmin forums and tried following the instructions, finally trying to do a hard reset in hopes I could wipe everything out and start from scratch. Nothing. When I pressed my thumb in the upper left corner of the screen and plugged it in, trying to get it to the MTP mode screen again, all that happened is that the logo stayed onscreen a bit longer, for about 15 seconds. Then it turned off for two seconds, came back on for 15 seconds, and that repeated non-stop.

Any suggestions?

What I suspect happened is that when the unit flew when I was hit, either 1) the port on the Garmin was damaged, or 2) the AC power cable had been damaged and when I plugged the Garmin in, which immediately blew every new fuse that was put in, that fried the Garmin. (The fuse was replaced four times, each of them working fine when the AC adaptor cable alone was plugged in, but blowing as soon as the Garmin was plugged in.)

It's time

violetxoxox wrote:

[I hope this is somewhat coherent, because I've literally been up all night long, having sat here non-stop since 6pm until now, 10:58am, researching this stuff and my brain is completely fried.]...

To my way of thinking, given all the effort expended already with no success, it is time to buy a replacement for your 1350. Your insurance company or your rear-enders insurance may even help out. Given that it's likely an internal hardware issue with your 1350, sharcnet may well be able to repair your 1350:

http://www.sharc.net/gps_repair.htm

but given the age of your 1350, it wouldn't be the solution I'd choose, when a new nuvi with so many more features can be found for under $200.

Either of your choices—and if me, I'd go for the 2597—will be a big change for the better compared to your old 1350. The 2597LMT will come with lifetime map updates and lifetime traffic. One big positive difference will be the Junction Views when you're traveling a route and approaching an interchange—and it'll all be on a bigger 5" display. It sounds like your major/only desire is to get a replacement with Daniel's voice and with the added download, your new unit's Daniel will steer you to a destination just as he did with the 1350.

I'm not sure if your 1350 could play mp3 audio, but for sure, your new one won't. That's only an issue if you wanted to play mp3 audio files or if your old unit had custom POIs with Custom mp3 alerts. You can still do custom POI audio alerts with the new nuvis, but will need wav audio files.

PS: your old 1350 does not have MTP mode. MTP arrived with later nuvi models. Yours is a MS-device only. But a new replacement will likely arrive as a MTP device and you may want to switch it to MS as many here have done.

PPS: if only all folks with nuvi issues were as thorough as you in describing the problem and the repair attempts!

Battery?

You could try replacing the battery. It is fairly inexpensive and not too difficult. You can purchase an inexpensive replacement battery on eBay. There are online tutorials that show how to do it.

That said, you might just be wasting your time/money. It is likely that your nuvi was damaged in the accident. If it was me, on a unit as old as the 1350, I would just throw it away and buy a new one.

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Hey Craig, Yeah, the 2597 is

Hey Craig,

Yeah, the 2597 is the one I'd most prefer, because I WOULD like voice command. I also prefer to spend a bit more to get a better unit and the 52 seemed like it was more in the bargain range. The only reason I was considering the 52 at all is that if Daniel WASN'T easily available any more and I'd have to manually add it, I wasn't sure if any of the previous versions of that voice would work with the Real Voice thing. If they will, then that's the one I'd rather have. I was even checking out some of the higher-end versions, but they didn't really seem like anything special. Just something comparable to my 1350, and Amazon had the 2597 listed as a newer version of that.

I saw another thread here on voices (yours, "Garmin English-language voice versions and dates") and saw that Daniel was available for TTS low-quality, TTS-high quality, and TTS3, which gave me hope, but I had absolutely no idea which format the 2597 or 52 used. There was only a guesstimate was that the 2597 probably used TTS3, but since it's so important to me, I wanted to be certain and make sure it would still work currently, because in that thread the last mention by someone saying he had a Daniel .RGN file and was trying to put it on the 2597 was from mid-2014 and he never posted an update to say whether your advice had worked for him or not, unfortunately.

I posted on Amazon on both models, asking people if anyone could confirm if Daniel was currently available on them, and the answers I got weren't terribly helpful (no big surprise there; I mean, if I'd asked the same question about the 1350 four years ago, people probably would have said Daniel wasn't available for that, either, and no, it wasn't at the time, but I was able to get an old file from a friend and install it). But back then, it was the first car GPS I'd ever had and if the Daniel file hadn't worked, I wouldn't have known what I was missing. I would have just picked another voice. This time, though, well ... I DO know Daniel and he's sort of become a surrogate boyfriend. LOL A friend who often goes on errands with me feels the same way. When I told her I'd probably have to replace the GPS, the first thing she said was, "Will we still have Daniel?" and I told her probably not, because he'd been hard to get even a few years ago, and she cried, "Noooo! We have to have Daniel!" Everybody loves Daniel.

So before shelling out the dough, I want to make sure I'm only considering models that Daniel definitely works on. I do not want to be messing with shipping it back. Why Garmin doesn't just install Daniel as a default is beyond me.

as craig surmised

Your 1350 is most likely dead. It does sound as if there is an internal short in the connector where you power your unit and that is the problem. Just as a side note on the connector/cable, there are 2 pair of conductors (wires) used. 2 provide power and two provide data. It sounds as if the power and data cables are shorted together because something came loose when the unit went flying.

I also suggest a new unit, one with the LMT characters after the 4 digit model as this means it has both lifetime map updates and the ability to receive traffic information. If the one you purchase has LMTHD, then it has the better traffic receiver which updates information much more frequently than the regular traffic receiver.

In addition, the general consensus is you can get an "upgrade" unit by buying a Garmin Factory Refurb from a reputable dealer. Refurbs are remanufactured units that were returned to Garmin for some reason. These have a full factory warranty so you aren't really taking a chance other than getting a "used" unit. Just because it was sent back to the factory doesn't mean it was broke and then repaired, units are often returned because they were not what was expected or the user had operating problems.

None of the units play MP3 files any longer, when Garmin went to a 4 digit model number, the MP3 capability was done away with as Garmin had to pay a licensing fee for every MP3 capable unit sold.

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I smirked!

violetxoxox wrote:

... I DO know Daniel and he's sort of become a surrogate boyfriend. LOL A friend who often goes on errands with me feels the same way. When I told her I'd probably have to replace the GPS, the first thing she said was, "Will we still have Daniel?" and I told her probably not, because he'd been hard to get even a few years ago, and she cried, "Noooo! We have to have Daniel!" Everybody loves Daniel.

So before shelling out the dough, I want to make sure I'm only considering models that Daniel definitely works on. I do not want to be messing with shipping it back. Why Garmin doesn't just install Daniel as a default is beyond me.

Ha, I smirked at your message—OK, I admit it, I even chuckled some even though I'm not a Dan Fan. Like many (guys wink ) here, I'm a Karen fan:

http://thegpsgirl.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-karen-jacobsen-the-guiding-...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AniDSfX2j5w

Some nuvi models are storage-limited and some buyers will use languages other than English and that's possibly why Daniel and all seven TTS English voices are not included by default.

Speaking of memory, that's another reason to look towards the 2597 over the 52:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/34375

The 2597 will not need a SD card for your next map update since the 2597 has enough free space for many map updates to come. Not so for the 52.

You will have to tell us what you eventually do to get Daniel back in your car! Does Daniel get along particularly well with your spaniel? Just curious.

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alandb wrote:
That said, you might just be wasting your time/money. It is likely that your nuvi was damaged in the accident. If it was me, on a unit as old as the 1350, I would just throw it away and buy a new one.

Yeah, that's my thinking. I already have a new power cable and jack coming, and it turns out I don't need them because that wasn't the problem and I'll be getting new ones packaged with whatever replacement model I get.

The more I fiddle, the longer I'll be without a GPS. And I live out in the middle of nowhere in the Sierras — the sort of place where if you take a wrong turn, there's a chance you'll never be found or find your way back because there's no cell reception — so a smartphone is useless for Google Maps or even being able to call for help. People go missing here constantly. I would rather not be one of them. I have a terrible sense of direction, I can practically lose my way going around a block, and my nüvi has served me so well. I've never once been lost in the wilderness and eaten by bears!

1350 replacement

Box Car wrote:

..None of the units play MP3 files any longer, when Garmin went to a 4 digit model number, the MP3 capability was done away with as Garmin had to pay a licensing fee for every MP3 capable unit sold.

The nuvi 1xxx series didn't have MP3, so that is probably not an issue for violetxoxox. The 1350 didn't even have multipoint routes or junction view, so any current model of nuvi would be a suitable replacement for the 1350.

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Quote: CraigW wrote: To my

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CraigW wrote:
To my way of thinking, given all the effort expended already with no success, it is time to buy a replacement for your 1350. Your insurance company or your rear-enders insurance may even help out.

I think they've already closed the repairs out. Even if they haven't, I doubt they'd give me all that much for a GPS I paid $150 bucks for four years ago. It wouldn't be worth the hassle. I got nearly $8,000 in repairs done, so I figure this is a small price to pay. I'd have needed a new GPS eventually anyway.

I actually had the 1350LMT. Only used the traffic part once. It was nothing but a pain in the a$$. Really buggy, I couldn't get it to work. I went ahead and ordered the 2597LMT. I doubt I'll use traffic on that, either. I'm just used to driving without it. Besides, traffic in this area is NOTHING like it was when I was in San Francisco, so it's not a big deal.

Nope, my 1350 didn't play MP3s. I keep one of my iPods in the car. That's what's usually hooked into the built-in USB port.

When the Garmin site said, "The device should automatically go into Mass Storage or MTP mode..." and described the screen, I thought it meant these modes were the same thing. You know, like it someone said, "Water or H20 is important to all life."

I'm sort of used to dealing with tech issues and troubleshooting with people, both on the giving and receiving ends. I know just saying, "It's doing something weird" isn't helpful. I also know how frustrating it is having to deal with folks who make no attempt at all to try to research an issue as much as possible (and keep track of things they've tried and the order they did them in) before asking for help. Grrrr!

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CraigW wrote:
Ha, I smirked at your message—OK, I admit it, I even chuckled some even though I'm not a Dan Fan. Like many (guys wink ) here, I'm a Karen fan

Oh, yeah, most guys are all about the Karen. wink

I think if I were a guy, I'd still go for Daniel, because it's also partly about pretending I have a chauffeur that's fun. I usually call Daniel "Jeeves."

IIRC, I think I took a bunch of voices off the 1350. I also tried a few of the weird ones. You know, the characters. Quickly found out that they're extremely annoying, so that ended fast.

If I have any trouble getting Daniel back in the car, I will drive around until I locate an English dude, drag him into the car, and force him to read a map out loud. Whatever it takes.

Hahaha! How did you know I have a spaniel??? Have you been rooting around on Twitter? LOL Chester doesn't pay any attention to Daniel at all.

Mac girl here

jgermann wrote:

The next link helps you make a backup of your GPS by attaching it to your computer. (NEVER do anything to your GPS until you have a backup). It also assures that you put your (newer) unit into a state where you can see all of the folders there.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30394

Mac girl here. I'm able to connect to my computer, make backups, and get to my folders with no trouble. It was the belly up part that was making doing anything impossible. But thanks! smile

Amazon

violetxoxox wrote:

Hahaha! How did you know I have a spaniel??? Have you been rooting around on Twitter? LOL Chester doesn't pay any attention to Daniel at all.

When you mentioned asking about Daniel on Amazon for your two potential models, I had to check out what answers you were given. My eyes happened to glance a review you had made for a yard decoration which you compared size-wise to your dog.

A real internet Sherlock would have learned your dog's name rather than just the breed. Maybe I'm just a Watson.

Having seen the Amazon answers you were offered, it's good that you came here for a discussion.

When you do receive your new 2597 and go to make a backup, you will want to change it from MTP or MS mode since the 2597 will come to you in MTP mode. If not, you'll only be backing up a tiny fraction of the files on the nuvi.

Called Garmin

I called Garmin and asked the question. Looks like you can get daniel on both the 52lm and the 2597.

Here is what I would do. I would find a Best Buy and look at both units. They should be on display. Fire one up and then
Settings > Language and Keyboard > Voice and see if daniel is already a choice.

2597 Store Unit May Not Show Daniel

jgermann wrote:

I called Garmin and asked the question. Looks like you can get daniel on both the 52lm and the 2597.

Here is what I would do. I would find a Best Buy and look at both units. They should be on display. Fire one up and then
Settings > Language and Keyboard > Voice and see if daniel is already a choice.

Since on the 2597 that has TTS3 voices, they are so much larger that they may only come with a limited amount of voices and may not include Daniel. Daniel may be availble for download but we don't know for sure unless a member owning a 2597 can post. It was considerate of you to call Garmin, but as we know the person on the other end may not always give accurate advice.

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Another Consideration To Confuse You More

It looks like you pretty much have your mind made up on the 2597LMT. I only wish that an owner of a 2597 could jump in and post a confirmation that Daniel is available in TTS3 format since that's very important to you for your model selection. I would not recommend a 52LMT they only have 2GB memory as opposed to the 2597 that has 8GB.

You may want to consider purchasing an older discontinued model. It's a 2460LMT (8GB Mem) but manufacture refurbished. Be advised the Garmin Factory refurbished units come with the same warranty as a new one, they are in perfect cosmetic & operating condition just a new one.
In the future I will ONLY buy a refurbished unit to save some cash.

The 2460 has the 5" screen, voice command, I myself owning one can confirm the Daniel TTS (NOT TTS3) voice comes loaded with the unit, no downloads needed. It’s the better TTS voice with larger file size than the small ones that come on the cheaper models.
Another plus for the 2460 is it comes with a powered mounted cradle. Many here at the Factory prefer these mounts that no longer come on newer units. The 2597 does not have a power mounted cradle but does have dual orientation (portrait or landscape) where the 2460 is only landscape.

I have a friend with a 2595 and I like my 2460 better. They are no longer call favorites but rather saved places on the 25XX series and can be somewhat difficult to find in the menus.
The 2460 has a nice main page that can be customized which I really like.
Here is a pic of how mine is set up, notice I have one touch on the main page to reach favorites
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/Nuvi%202460L...

I see the price for the 2597 on Amazon is 150.00 for a new one, the 2460 is the same price for refurbished but consider it is discontinued. They all become discontinued at some point.

2597LMT at Amazon > http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Nuvi-Portable-2597LMT-5-Inch/dp...

2460LMT at Factory Outlet Store > http://g.factoryoutletstore.com/details/0-49808/NUVI-2460LMT...

I would suggest you download the manuals for the two units to familiarize your self with them.
They are quite different than your 1350.

Nuvi 2597LMT Manual
http://support.garmin.com/support/manuals/manuals.htm?partNo...

Nuvi 2260LMT
http://support.garmin.com/support/manuals/manuals.htm?partNo...

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Samantha and Michelle

muell9k wrote:
jgermann wrote:

I called Garmin and asked the question. Looks like you can get daniel on both the 52lm and the 2597.

Here is what I would do. I would find a Best Buy and look at both units. They should be on display. Fire one up and then
Settings > Language and Keyboard > Voice and see if daniel is already a choice.

Since on the 2597 that has TTS3 voices, they are so much larger that they may only come with a limited amount of voices and may not include Daniel. Daniel may be availble for download but we don't know for sure unless a member owning a 2597 can post. It was considerate of you to call Garmin, but as we know the person on the other end may not always give accurate advice.

This thread

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/43966

has a post stating that as received, the 2797 will only contain two English language voices: Samantha who speaks street names, and Michelle who doesn't do street names. All other English language voices will require a download/install from either Garmin Express or the myGarmin website. Once installed, updates to voices can also be found with WebUpdater. I will strongly guess that the 2597 is the same. I know that my 3597 came with only these two voices so it may be standard across the entire TTS3 models.

As you stated, the real proof will come from a 2597 owner, and even better if it's a 2597 owner who then updated to all English voices.

We may get an answer from 2597owner

@CraigW
In the post above this one by Charlesd45 (Traffic And Alerts), he indicated he has a 2597. In his post I asked about Daniel on the 2597 and hopefully he will reply here so we can have confirmation.

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Ah, charlesd45 has told us already

muell9k wrote:

@CraigW
In the post above this one by Charlesd45 (Traffic And Alerts), he indicated he has a 2597. In his post I asked about Daniel on the 2597 and hopefully he will reply here so we can have confirmation.

charlesd45 has stated in:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40282

Nuvi 2597

Unit shows

English American Michelle version 2.0 and 1.90 mb file size.

English American Samantha version 1.20 and 30.3 mb file size.(Speaks Garmin Real Directions).

British English 2.30

In a message from the same thread, xazio states:

have a new North American Garmin Nuvi 2597 LMT...I would much prefer hearing a British or Australian voice over the american voice that comes standard on it

also suggesting that the 2597 only comes with American voice(s), as least as of the summer 2014.

So the only remaining 100% confirmation we need is whether the 2597 can get all seven TTS3 voices (and four non-TTS voices) including Daniel from Garmin Express or myGarmin.

bummer

muell9k wrote:

It looks like you pretty much have your mind made up on the 2597LMT.
...snip...
You may want to consider purchasing an older discontinued model. It's a 2460LMT (8GB Mem) but manufacture refurbished. Be advised the Garmin Factory refurbished units come with the same warranty as a new one, they are in perfect cosmetic & operating condition just a new one.

Aw! Unfortunately I had to head out for the day, and when I checked just now, I saw that Amazon is already in the process of shipping the 2597, so it's too late to cancel and switch models. crying

I'm just going to have to cross my fingers that some form of Daniel will work. Since it was available as a TTS3 option just four months ago, I'm thinking it will.

You

You will be able to install the latest version of British, English Daniel (TTS3) on your 2597. Since it comes with American English Samantha installed and the file size is over 30Mb the 2597 does support the Real Directions TTS3 Voices.

You will be able to download the latest version of Daniel from the myDashboard section of your myGarmin.com account by selecting Software Updates and then Optional Updates - Voices The file you will need to select is
Voice, British-English, Daniel (TTS3)

Here is the change History for Daniel which is now at version 2.10

Changes made from version 2.00 to 2.10:

Added parking phrases

Changes made from version 1.30 to 2.00:

Database updates

Changes made from version 1.20 to 1.30:

Added new phrases, improved pronunciation

Changes made from version 1.10 to 1.20:

Changed instructions for bear maneuvers.

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should be available

CraigW wrote:

charlesd45 has stated in:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40282

Nuvi 2597

Unit shows

English American Michelle version 2.0 and 1.90 mb file size.

English American Samantha version 1.20 and 30.3 mb file size.(Speaks Garmin Real Directions).

British English 2.30

In a message from the same thread, xazio states:

have a new North American Garmin Nuvi 2597 LMT...I would much prefer hearing a British or Australian voice over the american voice that comes standard on it

also suggesting that the 2597 only comes with American voice(s), as least as of the summer 2014.

So the only remaining 100% confirmation we need is whether the 2597 can get all seven TTS3 voices (and four non-TTS voices) including Daniel from Garmin Express or myGarmin.

Yeah, rooting around, I found that thread, and another that mentioned all seven being available as TTS3 just four months ago, and then I found this link on another site:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=6161

But it also says one of the system requirements is "IBM-compatible PC running Windows XP or later operating system and an available USB port." So I have no idea how it might go on a Mac.

One thing I want to figure out is if I can just load a regional map of a few states (as I always had to do on the 1350 because there was no room for the entire US), because I don't actually need more than just California and Nevada, and I'd rather not have space sucked up by a massive amount of data for states I'm never ever going to need. The only trouble is, because I always updated using Garmin Express, I was never given the option of just downloading the regional map from the start. It forced me to start downloading the entire thing, only offering me the option of choosing a regional map after the download failed, which it ALWAYS did. It was frustrating to have my computer tied up for hours on a download attempt I knew was going to fail in the end. So I need to see if there's some way I can just get the regional maps right from the start.

Darned bears!

t923347 wrote:

You will be able to install the latest version of British, English Daniel (TTS3) on your 2597.

YAY!!!

Quote:

Here is the change History for Daniel which is now at version 2.10
...snip...
Changed instructions for bear maneuvers.

Is it too much to hope that "bear maneuvers" are step-by-step instructions on getting away from bears? Because that would be a pretty handy feature here. mrgreen

Two things

violetxoxox wrote:

Yeah, rooting around, I found that thread, and another that mentioned all seven being available as TTS3 just four months ago, and then I found this link on another site:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=6161

But it also says one of the system requirements is "IBM-compatible PC running Windows XP or later operating system and an available USB port." So I have no idea how it might go on a Mac.

One thing I want to figure out is if I can just load a regional map of a few states (as I always had to do on the 1350 because there was no room for the entire US), because I don't actually need more than just California and Nevada, and I'd rather not have space sucked up by a massive amount of data for states I'm never ever going to need. The only trouble is, because I always updated using Garmin Express, I was never given the option of just downloading the regional map from the start. It forced me to start downloading the entire thing, only offering me the option of choosing a regional map after the download failed, which it ALWAYS did. It was frustrating to have my computer tied up for hours on a download attempt I knew was going to fail in the end. So I need to see if there's some way I can just get the regional maps right from the start.

First, your Mac version of Garmin Express should certainly work for you in the same way that the PC version does. I bet that was an accidental omission on Garmin's part in the faq you referenced. Note that if you use Garmin Express to install the additional voices, you will get all of them. If you just want Daniel, use the method described by t92 above (using the myGarmin website dashboard to selectively choose which voice you want to add). The system requirements for Garmin Express are:

System Requirements

Windows
•Windows XP or newer, Microsoft .NET 4 Client Profile (included)
•1024 x 768 display, USB port and 1 GB RAM
•High speed Internet access (Not for use with dial-up, mobile or satellite connections)
•May require up to 13 GB free disk space
Download for Windows

Mac
•Intel-based Mac running OS 10.7 or higher running in 64bit
•1024 x 768 display, USB port and 1 GB RAM
•High speed Internet access (Not for use with dial-up, mobile or satellite connections)
•May require up to 13 GB free disk space

Second, you will always want to install the full North America map when you update your maps on the 2597. It has more than enough room to install all of North America. If the 2597's updates work like other models, should you choose to install less than the full map update, the process will not install the voice commands and possibly will also not install junction views or voice navigation. You will not want to lose any of these. Also, regarding map updates: the new lifetime map subscription will be lost if your unit goes more than 24 months without map updates. You may not want to update your map four times a year each time an update comes out, but don't go more than two years without doing an update or you will lose the possibility of installing future updates.

And

And using your myGarmin account should work on your Mac without issue.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

Amazon, bears and such

By now, you must realize that we tend to be wordier than the answers you receive at Amazon. mrgreen But then, we tend to be correct more often.

Regarding bears: no, it won't provide you with an escape route, it just points out bears on your route—bear left, bear right. Dodging the bears is left to you and your driving skills.

violetxoxox wrote:
t923347 wrote:

You will be able to install the latest version of British, English Daniel (TTS3) on your 2597.

YAY!!!

Quote:

Here is the change History for Daniel which is now at version 2.10
...snip...
Changed instructions for bear maneuvers.

Is it too much to hope that "bear maneuvers" are step-by-step instructions on getting away from bears? Because that would be a pretty handy feature here. mrgreen

Yes

t923347 wrote:

And using your myGarmin account should work on your Mac without issue.

Yes, and since only Daniel's voice is desired, your Dashboard method is to be much preferred over the full 900MB or so of downloads that Garmin Express will do.

Yes

muell9k wrote:

@CraigW
In the post above this one by Charlesd45 (Traffic And Alerts), he indicated he has a 2597. In his post I asked about Daniel on the 2597 and hopefully he will reply here so we can have confirmation.

I have Jack on my unit. Can confirm after connecting my Nuvi 2597 to Dashboard. Daniel voice showed up for download Voice, British-English, Daniel (TTS3)

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

british daniel

i have a new 67 LMT and it does have British Daniel.
thought you wanted to know.

british daniel

i have a new 67 LMT and it does have British Daniel.
thought you wanted to know.

@violetxoxox

Now we have confirmed that Daniel will be available on your newly purchased 2597LMT, you will be happy with your decision of not buying the 52LM.
Updating your maps will not be a problem for you for many years to come with the 8GB internal memory.

As you see there are many dedicated members here at POI Factory who go out of their way in assisting others. If you have a question don't hesitate to ask since many times the owner manuals don't supply sufficient information.

You may also want to install some POI's on your new 2597, there are many available here as well as instructions on how to create them.
I'm sure you're tired of reading by now, but it will be a learning process with all the new features your 2597 will have over your 1350.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

@muell9k'

Just for info.All British voices that showed up.

Voice, British English (notes)
[New] Voice, British English-James (VCT)
[New] Voice, British English-Kate (VCT)
[New] Voice, British-English, Daniel (TTS3)* (notes)
[New] Voice, British-English, Serena (TTS3)* (notes)

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Thanks Charles

charlesd45 wrote:

Just for info.All British voices that showed up.

Voice, British English (notes)
[New] Voice, British English-James (VCT)
[New] Voice, British English-Kate (VCT)
[New] Voice, British-English, Daniel (TTS3)* (notes)
[New] Voice, British-English, Serena (TTS3)* (notes)

This is informative for 2597 owners that come upon this thread.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

British Daniel

I obtained mine from requesting additional voices from Garmin support.They emailed me Daniel and several others.

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an94

If

an94 wrote:

I obtained mine from requesting additional voices from Garmin support.They emailed me Daniel and several others.

If you needed voices for a 1350 wouldn't Webupdater been just as easy?

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

British English Daniel

The reason I found this post is because I too love British English Daniel. And had the same question. I have a Garmin Nuvi 225, for six years, that stopped working today. My GPS experience would not be the same without him. I too do not care for the other voices. I especially like it when I drive friends and they hear him for the 1st time. Even people who have heard him before still love him.
Anyway that aside the 2597 LMT was one of the models I was looking at so thanks for the info. There seems to be some good sales on now too.

Welcome to The Factory

Suez123 wrote:

The reason I found this post is because I too love British English Daniel. And had the same question. I have a Garmin Nuvi 225, for six years, that stopped working today. My GPS experience would not be the same without him. I too do not care for the other voices. I especially like it when I drive friends and they hear him for the 1st time. Even people who have heard him before still love him.
Anyway that aside the 2597 LMT was one of the models I was looking at so thanks for the info. There seems to be some good sales on now too.

Welcome to The Factory.

If you haven't found it yet, here's the Voice FAQ:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42708

From the faq, it appear to me that Daniel can be installed to essentially every nuvi and other On the Road devices but that Daniel won't be there out of the box. You will need to run Garmin Express with your nuvi connected, then tap Tools and under Optional Updates, click Language Files, check English and Install. Enjoy!

If your device doesn't have room to install all the English voices, you can remove all voices in other languages that you'll never need:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31186

As always, we do strongly urge all folks to make a full backup of their device before tinkering with internal files—or even if you plan never to tinker...

Thanks for the 2 great links

Thanks for the 2 great links.