Always Green, Never Grey Traffic Icon. The Garmin Response and What I Would Like To see

 

After much effort, I have a received the response below from Garmin.

In fairness to the people in Customer Support Group, that worked on this, I believe that it was like pulling teeth, to get even this from their Software/Engineering Group. Needless to say, I am not happy.

They have suggested that we go to their Ideas Site and request the changes:

“http://www8.garmin.com/contactUs/ideas/ requesting the change.”

This doesn’t make me confident.

I have chosen to write to Mr. Michael Wiegers, VP of Engineering and outlined my experience and requested that he get their software group to correct this. I felt a letter might stand a better chance of getting attention, especially since email could get lost in a SPAM Blocker.

Personally, I would love to see the members of POI Factory to do the same. If you do, I would ask the following:

1. Use exactly the same subject line as below. If he gets a number of letters with an identical subject line, it will be more noticeable.
2. Include you Model Number and Serial Number
3. Explain your own experience and why you want this changed.
4. I know everyone will be polite and respectful, so that he sees what a knowledgeable and good group of people hang out at this website.
5. It can’t hurt to go to the Ideas Site and again, use the same Subject Line.
6. If you do want to email instead, I think the email will be: Michael.Wiegers@garmin.com I can’t guarantee this, but it’s based on the email address format that I had for specific people previously.

Garmin International Inc.
1200 E. 151st St.
Olathe, KS
66062-3462

Attention: Mr. Michael Wiegers, VP Engineering
Subject: Always Green, Never Grey Traffic Icon

The Response”
In short, there are three different scenarios with the gray icon: having it, not having it, and having it only when a traffic receiver is not connected.

The grey traffic icon will still display on the following devices when traffic signal is low or weak:
• nuvi 205 series
• nuvi 465
• nuvi 500 series
• nuvi 705 series
• nuvi 805 series
• nuvi 1690
• zumo 660/665
• zumo 220
The grey traffic icon will not display on the following devices:
• nuvi 1100
• nuvi 1200 series
• nuvi 1300 series
• nuvi 1400 series
• nuvi 2200 series
• nuvi 2300 series
• nuvi 2400 series
• nuvi 2407 series
• nuvi 2408 series
• nuvi 2507 series
• nuvi 2508 series
• nuvi 2707 series
• nuvi 2708 series
• nuvi 3507 series
• nuvi 3508 series
• nuvi 3700 series
• dezl 560
• LIVE 1695
• LIVE 2300 series
The following devices will display a grey traffic icon only when the traffic receiver is not connected. On these models, the grey traffic icon will not appear when connected to a receiver and is therefore not representative of traffic signal strength:
• nuvi 2405 series
• nuvi 2505 series
• nuvi 3400 series
• nuvi 3500 series
• dezl 760
It will vary with some of the devices as far as which version of update effected this, however this list is current and we always recommend running the latest software versions.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

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Yep it does what you say for my 2 units. The 3590 is just a pain, searches, then it's up to date and we start all over again. Gonna sell this unit soon, to some other poor s_ _ _. Maybe he or she won't care, or not know any better. Hmm.. it's a lemon and I don't trust it.

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2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Revisionist History?

If they are talking about the present version of firmware I'm running, then the list is probably accurate for my 2595. --HOWEVER--, the list is WRONG, pure and simple for whatever firmware version it had originally and for several updates subsequent. I remember the way the unit acted when I first got it: GRAY icon = Receiver plugged in -NO SIGNAL. GREEN/RED/YELLOW icon: RECEIVING signal. NO icon: no receiver plugged in.

Current state: GREEN icon = Traffic receiver plugged in. GRAY icon: You had receiver connected, you unplugged it, but icon hasn't been flushed from the screen yet. TRANSLATION: You have a green icon and assume there's clear sailing ahead when the reality is/could be, you haven't received a signal for an hour and are heading towards a 50 car fog pile-up you could have avoided if you took the previous exit ten miles back. Isn't that the point of the traffic feature?

GREEN ICON should only ever mean: Receiving signal and NO traffic problems.

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

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EXCELLENT summary, williston. How Garmin can't (or won't) see this anamoly is beyond comprehension and how/why they changed it to the current behavior is baffling as well. rolleyes

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

Icon

I'm reading this and can honestly say that neither my 855 or 3790 has displayed a grey icon.

It's either no icon, a yellow icon or a red icon.
Maybe I am fortunate in this respect.

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Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

I think the reason it stands

I think the reason it stands out so clearly for me is because I make frequents trips this time of year to the northern "boondocks" of Maine. At some point after turning off 95 or 16 in New Hampshire and Maine, the icon would go from Green to Gray: receiver plugged in but NO traffic signal coming in. Clicking through the menus would confirm this AND I would even get a pop-up telling me that the traffic signal has been lost. I don't think the pop-up comes up anymore either; another nice feature that has been lost.

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

traffic coverage on the 800 series

Melaqueman wrote:

I'm reading this and can honestly say that neither my 855 or 3790 has displayed a grey icon.

It's either no icon, a yellow icon or a red icon.
Maybe I am fortunate in this respect.

The 800 series never displayed an icon other than yellow or red even going back to the MSN days. The unit also does not let you know if you are receiving a traffic signal unless you ask it to display traffic. If an icon was displayed, it didn't go away when coverage was dropped, it was persistent until you had it check or you passed the area where the icon was displayed. With the newer traffic receiver the unit still operates in the same manner, either no icon or one that's red or yellow. As I now have one of the current RDS receivers that's used on some of the units having display problems I can reasonably assume it's a unit centric problem and not the traffic receiver.

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Illiterate? Write for free help.

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williston wrote:

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

Looks like it was fixed: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40352

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

If We're Not Happy- Then Let's Try Writing

Will Garmin listen, if we write. Maybe, maybe not. However, I think it might be worth a try. Write a letter to Michael Wiegers, VP Engineering, like I just have. Use the same Subject line" Always Green, Never Grey" to help emphasise this.

Am I sure he's the absolute right guy? No, I'm not, but I would hope someone in his position would either pass it on or look into it.

If you're really not into snail mail, then try the email address, that I came up with, but I think a letter is the right course of action in this case. The worse that can happen, is an email will bounce back. Include a request for a Read Receipt.

Many of us have valid points and tons of experience. If we spell this out to the top people,, just maybe we'll get a response.

If and when you write, post the fact here so that we might get a sense of who else is trying to be a pain in the butt to Garmin.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

I missed this one.

Juggernaut wrote:
williston wrote:

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

Looks like it was fixed: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40352

I should have read Juggernaut's post, before I posted mine. Unfortunately, I checked my 2555 with Webupdater and no such update is available.

I still think it's worth writing Garmin, if this is a limited update.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

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Juggernaut wrote:
williston wrote:

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

Looks like it was fixed: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40352

That's nice, but it only covers the 2xx7 and 8's. Wanna buy my 3590?

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2 DriveSmart 65's - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

We could hope

Speed2 wrote:
Juggernaut wrote:
williston wrote:

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

Looks like it was fixed: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40352

That's nice, but it only covers the 2xx7 and 8's. Wanna buy my 3590?

We could hope that Garmin would soon release a firmware fix for the 2xx5/34xx/35xx series

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Garmin wrote:

Changes made from version 2.80 to 3.20:
(nuvi models 2xx7/2xx8, 27x7/27x8, 35x7/35x8)

Updates were made to use gray coloring for traffic events that do not contain flow data. This replaces the green coloring that implied traffic was flowing smoothly.

And how exactly is this 2013 model update related to the "always green, never grey" traffic icon issue? Sounds to me like this corrects an issue on the traffic map where a green color was used for a traffic flow instance instead of grey. The green "flow data" color on the traffic map has now been changed to grey to correct the issue. AFAIK, the new 2013 units don't even have a traffic icon like previous models. Sounds unrelated to me...but that's just me.

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

Not for 2595

So the wait continues. Gotta say though: the "Fixed Bluetooth Volume issue" I see in the list really aggravates me to no end. If Garmin has fixed this issue for a newer unit and doesn't fix it for my older 2595 --which has had this problem from day one--, I will be extremely disappointed to put it mildly.

Juggernaut wrote:
williston wrote:

GARMIN: GO FIND THE BUG!!

Thank you razz

Looks like it was fixed: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/40352

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic