Red Light Cameras

 

Do most places in the US that have red light cameras have a photo enforced sign warning drivers?

In Long Island, NY, they do NOT have photo enforced signs warning drivers.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/05/28/l-i-drivers-seeing-re...

They do here in TX

I haven't found one yet that didn't have a sign warning drivers.

Pennsylvania law requires a

Pennsylvania law requires a sign within the block the camera is at.

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Arizona, yes

they sign them

New Jersey puts warning signs

in NJ they have to put warning signs before each intersection using red light cameras. haven't seen those anywhere in NY state though...

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I didn't see them in Tennessee. They are required in Iowa.

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This was discussed elsewhere here.

It seems the consensus is up to the towns and/or cities. Some locations it is required and some not. There was discussion on wording so it needed a vote. Rochester NY has signs, but not at all intersections (go figure).

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Maryland

Maryland requires warning signs for speed cameras, but apparently not for red light cameras

Some TN cities have them

spokybob wrote:

I didn't see them in Tennessee. They are required in Iowa.

Quote:

(c) Effective July 1, 2011, a political subdivision of the state that installs, owns, operates or maintains either a traffic-control signal light located in an intersection or any other unmanned traffic enforcement camera for the enforcement or monitoring of traffic violations shall ensure that:

(1) The traffic enforcement camera does not identify as a violation of § 55-8-110(a)(3), or any municipal law or ordinance that mirrors, substantially duplicates or incorporates by cross-reference the language of § 55-8-110(a)(3), any vehicle that legally entered the intersection during the green or yellow intervals in accordance with § 55-8-110(a)(1) and (2); and

(2) Appropriate signage is located not less than five hundred feet (500') but not more than one thousand feet (1,000') in advance of the enforcement area of the unmanned traffic enforcement camera informing drivers as to the presence of traffic enforcement cameras at the approaching location. All regulatory and warning signs relating to the intersection or enforcement area shall meet the conventional road size or larger requirements of the MUTCD. Minimum size signing shall not be allowed.

Illinois

At least the Chicagoland area all have signs.

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kangster70 wrote:

In Long Island, NY, they do NOT have photo enforced signs warning drivers.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/05/28/l-i-drivers-seeing-red-over-lack-of-red-light-camera-warning-signs/

That is not quite correct. The issue has been with missing signage on NEW intersections going in this year. All existing intersections that I pass through (Greenvale NY-25A RLC, Roslyn NY-101 RLC, Old Westbury Glen Cove Road RLC, Manhasset Shelter Rock Road RLC and North Lindenhurst NY-109 RLC) have signage and it has not been taken down. Also note the issue is with Nassau County, not Suffolk County. Suffolk has not yet begun rolling out their additional fifty cameras so no one really knows what they are going to do about signage.

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I also see some sort of sign

I also see some sort of sign waring you of those red light cameras

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TN

The unsigned locations that I mentioned were in Clarksville TN. Our trip was in October 2011.

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SOCAL yes

I know for sure that Riverside, CA has the warning signs and I think that is true throught SOCAL.

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Hard to notice the sign

Some time you have to focus on the road. It is hard to notice the sign. mad

red lights

need warning signs. distance I don't know . alberta canada

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In Orlando Florida there are warning signs

We have a zillion red light cameras in the DFW Metroplex

We have a zillion red light cameras in the DFW Metroplex. I know some of them may have signs, but I'm pretty sure that most do not.

The POIFactory's Redlight Cameras POI file sure comes in handy if you live here.

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Do you actually believe that the idiots who go through a red light watch for warning signs? They are too self absorbed to pay any attention to their surroundings.

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WHY?

I think it is a retarded idea to have warning signs for each camera. It is basically telling violators which red lights they can or can't run or what spots you have to slow down for and then off to the races again.
The police do not put out a sign telling you that he is parked ahead with a radar to catch you speeding.
This is a ploy by some politicians to deflate the income from these cameras and make them look like a bad idea.
If those signs disappeared would the violations increase?

Roughly 50% of drivers...

Melaqueman wrote:

Do you actually believe that the idiots who go through a red light watch for warning signs? They are too self absorbed to pay any attention to their surroundings.

Don't pay attention to virtually anything other than what is directly in front of them. I routinely see rear view mirrors tilted towards the driver so they can look at themselves while driving, side mirrors turned so it's obvious the driver doesn't use them and those that change lanes without looking or using turn signals.

Thanks for the clarification

Thanks for the clarification aardvark. I guess it is only for the new cameras that they don't have signage in Nassau county.

Anyway now nyc is getting speed cameras in addition to red light cameras.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/nyregion/city-gets-legisla...

Speed cameras

kangster70 wrote:

Thanks for the clarification aardvark. I guess it is only for the new cameras that they don't have signage in Nassau county.

Anyway now nyc is getting speed cameras in addition to red light cameras.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/nyregion/city-gets-legisla...

This is important - these are the first speed cameras permitted in New York State.

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I really can't say that ALL

I really can't say that ALL of the RLC's in Washington State have the warning-signs, but the RLC's that I've seen do.

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signs everywhere

kurzemnieks wrote:

I think it is a retarded idea to have warning signs for each camera. It is basically telling violators which red lights they can or can't run or what spots you have to slow down for and then off to the races again.
The police do not put out a sign telling you that he is parked ahead with a radar to catch you speeding.
This is a ploy by some politicians to deflate the income from these cameras and make them look like a bad idea.
If those signs disappeared would the violations increase?

Pennsylvania is anal about it's traffic signs, there are signs that say stuff like "Speed RADAR Enforced" or "Speed Electronically Controlled" and even "Speed Enforced By Aircraft" and I know people who have beaten a ticket because the signs weren't there. So while they may not say "cop 100 feet ahead" there are warning signs as you enter towns as to which way they enforce the law.

PA also has a requirement that a speed limit sign has to be placed every so many feet/yards and just after on ramps to limited access highways.

Along the same lines in New Jersey I have seen "Safe Corridor, Fines Doubled, Speeding And Other Violations" these areas will also have a sign down the road a bit that says "END SAFE CORRIDOR" as if to signal you may now go back to driving like an idiot.

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They do here

kurzemnieks wrote:

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The police do not put out a sign telling you that he is parked ahead with a radar to catch you speeding.
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We have a number of unmarked white SUV mobile speed units here. When they are active (as opposed to just parked there to make people slow down) there is a portable sign that is placed several hundred yards before the SUV to let people know that photo radar is active.

Sign here, sign there

soberbyker wrote:

Pennsylvania is anal about it's traffic signs, there are signs that say stuff like "Speed RADAR Enforced" or "Speed Electronically Controlled" and even "Speed Enforced By Aircraft" and I know people who have beaten a ticket because the signs weren't there. So while they may not say "cop 100 feet ahead" there are warning signs as you enter towns as to which way they enforce the law.

PA also has a requirement that a speed limit sign has to be placed every so many feet/yards and just after on ramps to limited access highways.

Along the same lines in New Jersey I have seen "Safe Corridor, Fines Doubled, Speeding And Other Violations" these areas will also have a sign down the road a bit that says "END SAFE CORRIDOR" as if to signal you may now go back to driving like an idiot.

What was not mentioned above is that the legislature did not have anything important to do so they wasted time and money making up rules about placement of signs. I believe that there should be signs for certain reasons but some other signs are a waste of money. If the law requires a sign then a ticket should not be given for we are a nation of laws but I blame the DOT for failure to put up the sign and obey the law.
I have yet to see any difference in driving habits in "Safety Corridors"

Not true in DFW area

jwillum wrote:

I haven't found one yet that didn't have a sign warning drivers.

I know in some DFW area there is no sign but there is a camera.

me neither

kurzemnieks wrote:

What was not mentioned above is that the legislature did not have anything important to do so they wasted time and money making up rules about placement of signs. I believe that there should be signs for certain reasons but some other signs are a waste of money. If the law requires a sign then a ticket should not be given for we are a nation of laws but I blame the DOT for failure to put up the sign and obey the law.
I have yet to see any difference in driving habits in "Safety Corridors"

Neither have I, merely pointing out the stupidity of even having such a zone, and then ending it.

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When you treat people like idiots, they'll behave like idiots.

My daughter gave me a book for Christmas which I have been reading during my visits to the doctor, swimming lessons, and other appointments. It is called Encyclopedia Paranoiaca. I put to you this amusing article.
“According to the late Hans Monderman, a legendary Dutch traffic engineer who died of cancer in 2008, traditional traffic safety infrastructure—warning signs, traffic lights, metal railings, curbs, painted lines, speed bumps, and so on is (to quote Tom Vanderbilt, who profiled Monderman in the Wilson Quarterly) "not only often unnecessary, but can endanger those it is meant to protect:'
The reason, Monderman explained, is that traffic signs provide an invitation to stop thinking, to stop acting on one's own volition. "The greater the number of prescriptions, the more people's sense of personal responsibility dwindles," he said. "When you treat people like idiots, they'll behave like idiots."
Matthias Schulz, writing in the German magazine Der Spiegel, reports that seven cities and regions in Europe are giving Monderman's concept of streets without traffic signs a try and are achieving "good results:' Schulz is not surprised. Some 20 million traffic signs have already been set up all over Germany, he laments, and "psychologists have long revealed the senselessness of such exaggerated regulation.
About 70 percent of traffic signs are ignored by drivers. What's more, the glut of prohibitions foments resentment. The driver may stop in front of the crosswalk, but that only makes him feel justified in preventing pedestrians from crossing; the street on every other occasion. Every traffic light baits him with the promise of making it over the crossing while the light is still yellow."
In the Wilson Quarterly, Vanderbilt tells of a trip he took with Monderman to the village of Makkinga in the Netherlands—the site of one of the traffic engineer's most successful experiments. At the entrance to the village stood a single sign, Vanderbilt writes. "It welcomed visitors, noted a 30 kilometer-per-hour speed limit, then added: 'Free of Traffic Signs. This was Monderman humor at its finest: a traffic sign announcing the absence of traffic signs.""

In Canada, they have to show

In Canada, they have to show the sign..

No photo here in Jacksonville, FL

I have not been able to locate a photo here in Jacksonville FL.

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RLC Signs

The last one I passed had a warning sign Rte 18 in East Brunswick NJ

Mistake, my apologies

I need to retract my statement. I saw signs saying "Photo Enforced" and a pic of a red light.
Hummm I guess I never noticed them till I saw this thread.
Thanks

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