New system in speed cameras

 

sign of more to come

i am sure others will follow suit

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Not New

Some places have had vehicle mounted speed cameras for some time, including Washington DC. They've had them for over 10 years.

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You can bet for sure other

You can bet for sure other places will follow.

But

Tuckahoemike wrote:

Some places have had vehicle mounted speed cameras for some time, including Washington DC. They've had them for over 10 years.

But the police officer driving or parking this jeep will not stop you to give a ticket but send you a ticket by mail.

So,,,,,,,

kurzemnieks wrote:
Tuckahoemike wrote:

Some places have had vehicle mounted speed cameras for some time, including Washington DC. They've had them for over 10 years.

But the police officer driving or parking this jeep will not stop you to give a ticket but send you a ticket by mail.

It does nothing to check whether the driver has a license, warrant for their arrest, has insurance so in reality they should just call it what it is. A tax collector/revenue generating machine which must produce revenue no matter what.

albeit - a limited tax

Frside007 wrote:

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It does nothing to check whether the driver has a license, warrant for their arrest, has insurance so in reality they should just call it what it is. A tax collector/revenue generating machine which must produce revenue no matter what.

It can certainly be a revenue generator.

Fortunately for most of us, it is levied "almost always" on people who break the law.

Note: added "almost always" because opponents of Automated Traffic Enforcement like to point out those rare instances where the equipment fails and produces a ticket for an innocent law-abiding citizen.

I love it!

jgermann wrote:
Frside007 wrote:

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It does nothing to check whether the driver has a license, warrant for their arrest, has insurance so in reality they should just call it what it is. A tax collector/revenue generating machine which must produce revenue no matter what.

It can certainly be a revenue generator.

Fortunately for most of us, it is levied "almost always" on people who break the law.

Note: added "almost always" because opponents of Automated Traffic Enforcement like to point out those rare instances where the equipment fails and produces a ticket for an innocent law-abiding citizen.

So when the escaping bank robber gets the speeding ticket many days later, he too is grateful that he didn't have to face the officer during the get-a-way... not to mention the accidents and injuries he probably caused during a carefree/uninterrupted escape.

p.s. He will undoubtedly rush out and pay the fine asap. ROFLMAO

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Almost..

Probably a stolen car so the vehicle owner will get the ticket(s) and if he/she didn't know their car had been stolen yet and reported it already they will likely have to miss work, hire an attorney, go to court but that's okay I guess.
Hopefully cities will take the next step and require a gps tracking device on every vehicle within their city limits and tickets would be mailed out based on tracking/speed information and those without the device will be fined as well.
Then maybe those that see RLC's as a good thing will wonder how this all got started.

camera cars

Cleveland has had them from the get go. When you pass a camera car the officer is usually reading the paper or noding off, and could careless about the world outside his car.
The cop is just a driver for the camera, to a location near you!

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Huh?

kurzemnieks wrote:

For those who want police officers to issue tickets for speeding will get their wish in Polk County Iowa very soon.
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2013/03/26/polk-speed-cameras-on-back-order-now-more-advanced-and-expected-in-may/article

I'm not exactly following what you're saying. An officer is not issuing the tickets directly. It's not the same as getting pulled over.

It all got started because

Frside007 wrote:

Probably a stolen car so the vehicle owner will get the ticket(s) and if he/she didn't know their car had been stolen yet and reported it already they will likely have to miss work, hire an attorney, go to court but that's okay I guess.
Hopefully cities will take the next step and require a gps tracking device on every vehicle within their city limits and tickets would be mailed out based on tracking/speed information and those without the device will be fined as well.
Then maybe those that see RLC's as a good thing will wonder how this all got started.

It all got started because people were running red lights or speeding and killing people. There were more red light runners and speeders because people felt that they did not want people telling them what to do - like obeying the law and stopping at red lights or driving at the speed limit. These law breakers felt like the fact they were in a hurry gave them a license of sorts to run red lights or speed. Since these law breakers were getting away with traffic law breaking, they thought they could get away with more and worked their way up to stealing cars. Then the citizens wanted more officers dealing with major crimes so cities reduced their attention on red light running (you have to have both an officer and a patrol car to catch a red light runner) and had officers concentrate on major crimes. Cities could not add traffic patrol officers because citizens did not want "taxes" increased and, as a group, objected to the city's employing Automated Traffic Enforcement because that was a "tax" and they also still did not want the government telling them what to do.
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Well , others will be better than me at completing the story of how anarchy took over and bank robbing became more common because so much of the population objected to using any kind of technology to enforce laws (as it amounted to telling law breakers what they could do or not do).

And all because people did not want government to use red light and speed cameras.

cash cow

It's still just a cash cow. Enforcement only works when the driver is stopped an spoken to. Getting a ticket in the mail won't stop bad driving behaviour.

You can't say "bad dog" an hour after he's dropped a load on the floor. It has to be done right then.

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Penalties?

If there were penalties such as points added to your license, an increase in insurance premiums, and possible suspension of driving privileges, then possibly people would pay a bit more attention to red light cameras. Intead, you get billed by the camera company to pay a fine, with no other repercussions.

Where is the incentive to pay up? There is none that I can see, except fear. That is why cameras are nothing more than a cash cow.

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You will get the ticket

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I'm not exactly following what you're saying. An officer is not issuing the tickets directly. It's not the same as getting pulled over.

If you read the article you will find that officer is not sitting and reading a paper or snoozing but driving the jeep and the cameras will photograph your face and license plate with the speed. You will then get a ticket in the mail from the police department and not the camera company.
We in DSM have it if you do not pay the fine you can be denied a license renewal, taken to small claims court or not receive your state tax refund.
My next guess is that these roving cars will have a license plate reader on it to check its status and to catch those bank robbers speeding away from their crime scene.

I think this is another bright idea that local government is

trying a new way to make money but personally I think this is better than giving away money for camera company.

It's not a new thing

Quite awhile back I saw information about the cameras the police are using now in their cars.
They are constantly scanning, reading and identifying plates on the cars in in milliseconds. As they are driving down the street the computer notifies them when it detects a plate with whatever type of violation. I'm sure that's not all they do either though. I would be willing to bet that they can also notify when they detect a plate for that has been known to be pulled over in the past and might be something to be checked out. It is all the wave of the future and it has only just begun. Standby and be ready for the whatever they will come out with next month.

Um

kurzemnieks wrote:
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I'm not exactly following what you're saying. An officer is not issuing the tickets directly. It's not the same as getting pulled over.

If you read the article you will find that officer is not sitting and reading a paper or snoozing but driving the jeep and the cameras will photograph your face and license plate with the speed. You will then get a ticket in the mail from the police department and not the camera company.
We in DSM have it if you do not pay the fine you can be denied a license renewal, taken to small claims court or not receive your state tax refund.
My next guess is that these roving cars will have a license plate reader on it to check its status and to catch those bank robbers speeding away from their crime scene.

I did read the article. Your statement, "For those who want police officers to issue tickets for speeding will get their wish in Polk County Iowa very soon." The officer is not issuing a ticket. It still comes in the mail, much like the other automated camera systems. From the article,

"The new technology will allow much more enforcing to take place, since the deputy in the Jeep will never have to make contact with speeding motorists."

So, that's why I didn't understand your statement. To me, it makes no difference whether it comes from a police officer, or a camera company, when it comes through the mail. The ticket is not being issued directly at the time of the violation, and that's where I believe the difference lies.

This system is nothing more than a huge fishing net, trying to nab as many speeders as possible. Yeah, the technology is there, but if an area is deemed unsafe, wouldn't it be prudent to fix the problem? But there's no money in that.

I did read about Gatso, and it was originally invented by rally driver Maurice Gatsonides. He used it to record his speed and improve his performance. I think it's ironic that someone that drove fast around turns has an invention that is now being used to nab people doing pretty much the same thing, only when we do it, "it's not safe" coughprofitablecough.

I think you do not like cameras period

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I did read the article. Your statement, "For those who want police officers to issue tickets for speeding will get their wish in Polk County Iowa very soon." The officer is not issuing a ticket. It still comes in the mail, much like the other automated camera systems. From the article,
"The new technology will allow much more enforcing to take place, since the deputy in the Jeep will never have to make contact with speeding motorists."
So, that's why I didn't understand your statement. To me, it makes no difference whether it comes from a police officer, or a camera company, when it comes through the mail. The ticket is not being issued directly at the time of the violation, and that's where I believe the difference lies.
If one look deeply you will find revenue income bills sent to you monthly by the government. Look at your water bill and look at the additions.
This system is nothing more than a huge fishing net, trying to nab as many speeders as possible. Yeah, the technology is there, but if an area is deemed unsafe, wouldn't it be prudent to fix the problem? But there's no money in that.

I for not care how the camera system was started for it is here and will stay.
I have lived in my house for 48 years and have seen everything. A child was killed in front of my house by a speeder in a school zone and the driver claimed it was an accident. My wife and sister were both hit by drivers running a red light.
Today it was a nice day and I was out trying to figure how to improve my porch when I heard a car accelerating and observed an idiot passing a car doing the speed limit in a school zone.
No sooner that went by I heard the school bus speeding up and then slamming on its' brakes but missing the designated house by three (we have open enrollment). It backed up but the driver forgot to engage the red lights and the stop sign. I did call it in to the school system.
I believe that cameras are needed because there are to many fools who think the laws are not for them and will break them. I do not care if they produce revenue for police issued tickets do the same.

Yep

It's true, I don't like cameras.

Leave it to Des Moines

If anyone would find this stuff it would be them. Shop Dubuque we don't have them (yet).

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