Garmin 2013 Nuvi lineup

 
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Good catch class3

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Interesting

Thanks class3

Thanks for the link,
Not enough information yet for any of the new models to consider an upgrade. The 2797 may interest me with a 7" screen but remains to be be seen what other feature it has and pricing.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

One new Prestige model??

A bit surprised by this, I would assume they would be the best sellers.

HD Traffic

Garmin also unveiled an HD Traffic service avail with the Nuvi 3490 and 3590 - both models LMT (http://www8.garmin.com/traffic/) would love to hear if it works well from users with these models. While still part of the 2012 lineup - would think the feature, being new, would be picked up in the 2013 line.

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Be interesting to see if the Bluetooth works different.
It says hands free, but that's not true ATM. Maybe they coupled it with voice activation? Lookie there,
"Garmin Express" guess its here to stay, just not online for d/l yet, unless you grabbed it like I did 3 days ago.

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Powered Magnetic Mount?

If you scroll down to the powered mount and use the arrow to join the GPS to the mount you can see how it functions.
http://sites.garmin.com/nuvi/

I think it may be a bit cumbersome to join. To get an idea how they join, move the arrow only about 45 degrees. You will see the GPS has a protruding ridge around it that will fit into the cradle that also has a bit larger ridge. I don't know how easy it will be to attach the two without having to slide it up and down, or sideways, to lock the two rectangles into place.

I also don't see where the power cable connects to the cradle, it must be on the right side. If there is only a USB connector port on the cradle, here again we have the potential problem of the wire putting stress on the connector to the cradle. They should design it where there is a clip to hold the wire in place so the stress is put on the clip rather than the connector.

Am I not seeing this correctly, opinions anyone?

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

2013 Line up

Thanks for the info.

Geez... I JUST bought a 3590 and now they come up with something new.

I seem to be stuck in a mode of upgrading at least every other year.

But I WILL wait to read the reviews.

Thanks for the info. I

Thanks for the info.

I think Garmin is getting like Apple, they come out with some ho hum products but no earth shattering technology. I expected more!

I WILL WAIT

Also to see how traffice will work.

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forward to see what the 7 inch ones can do

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rthibodaux wrote:

Also to see how traffice will work.

Comparing the 3790LMT with the 3590LMT
The 3590LMT gets the green traffic icon on the screen instantly. 3790 is really slow. 10 minutes mostly. Satellites are almost instant also with the 3590, again the 3790 is slow. I can actually use the 3590 indoors.

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

2013 Details

I found that if you click on any of the "Look Closer" buttons near the bottom of that page it will take you to the detailed listings of all 2013 models. However, you must ensure that ALL check boxes are DEselected, or else no units are listed.

Or try this link:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=449&fKeys=

This works as of 4:30PM PST on 1/15/2013

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larryak wrote:

I found that if you click on any of the "Look Closer" buttons near the bottom of that page it will take you to the detailed listings of all 2013 models. However, you must ensure that ALL check boxes are DEselected, or else no units are listed.

Or try this link:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=449&fKeys=

This works as of 4:30PM PST on 1/15/2013

Works, thanks
Am i seeing this correct? If I compare my 3590LMT with the new 3597LMTHD, i get smaller screen and I get to pay more for it. Do not see anything different about these two models

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Thanks, interesting!

Thanks, interesting!

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Maps -> Wife -> Garmin 12XL -> StreetPilot 2610 -> Nuvi 660 (blown speaker) -> Nuvi 3790LMT

3597 vs 3590

Speed2 wrote:

Am i seeing this correct? If I compare my 3590LMT with the new 3597LMTHD, i get smaller screen and I get to pay more for it. Do not see anything different about these two models

From what I see they both have the 5" screen size. Software is revised, more info is displayed now, more expensive looking enclosure.

Try Again

larryak wrote:
Speed2 wrote:

Am i seeing this correct? If I compare my 3590LMT with the new 3597LMTHD, i get smaller screen and I get to pay more for it. Do not see anything different about these two models

From what I see they both have the 5" screen size. Software is revised, more info is displayed now, more expensive looking enclosure.

3597
5.4"W x 3.1"H x 0.5"D (13.8 x 7.7 x 1.3 cm)
4.3"W x 2.9"H (10.9 x 6.5 cm); 5" diag (12.7 cm)

3590
5.4"W x 3.4"H x 0.5"D (13.8 x 8.7 x 1.3 cm)
4.4"W x 2.5"H (11.1 x 6.3 cm); 5" diag (12.7 cm)
Dunno where you get the more info part? Most of the time its too much info and I turn it off. But there are some things that class 3 mentions that might just be different, we'll need a guinea pig....lol
Juggernaut, you up for it?

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5" LCD

I'd be surprised if the LCD panel is different from the 3590 to the 3597. Last year was the first time they made a 5" 800x400 model, so I think they might want to use the same panel for this next model year (just like the LCD wasn't changed from the 3790 to the 3490). There is actually an error in the screen dimension conversion to inch units. The metric dimensions are almost identical. The 0.2 mm off could be just the difference in the bezel.

However, I kinda hope Garmin did change the LCD panel. I had a 3590 for some time and ended up returning it because I was dissatisfied by the display when compared to the 3490. The 3590 was much more reflective in direct sunlight and just wasn't as good as the 3490. The 3790/3490 is the best GPS screen I've ever seen. Too bad there's no 2013 model with it.

Regarding the other improvements, they aren't earth shattering and probably aren't worth upgrading from a 2012 model, by I do think they are useful improvements and anyone buying a new unit this year will benefit from these improvements.

Also, some of the Advance series come with a "Lifetime traffic antenna/vehicle power cable" instead of "Lifetime traffic receiver/vehicle power cable" so it's possible those unit have the traffic receiver now built into the GPS and the power cable is now just an antenna.

The HD traffic is the BEST

The HD traffic is the BEST traffic that Garmin offers.

I noticed they stole one from the TomTom book by having a separate side screen which shows the traffic times and it now speaks the traffic. Hopefully it will give you the option to avoid the traffic tie-up without having to click 5 times.

All these new features are great, but.....

these new features like Real Voice Guidance and Active Lane Assist will only be as accurate as their map data is. Unfortunately, Navteq still takes some time (around a year and sometimes longer) to update attributes like lane information (how many lanes are at an intersection, where they end, where they go, ect), points of interest, and landmarks. And we already know, based on how new features from Garmin have been introduced in the past, that this detailed information will only be available in the top largest metropolitan areas at first (and even then, some of this info in these areas will still be out of date). So it's not like you're gonna buy these devices and all of a sudden, your new garmin is gonna know where all of the major landmarks and traffic lights are in your area and will be able to direct you like a human being would. Looking at the positives, I think this is a big step in navigation, and I think Garmin will just about have the entire market share of portable navigation devices once this series of nuvis is released (Tom Tom who?). But unless Garmin is using another source besides Navteq data to fuel these new features, I just don't see how these features are going to be all that useful and I don't know how I am going to be able to justify the hefty price tag that Garmin is likely to place on these new devices.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Thanks

Thanks

MSRP is same as 2012

rame1012 wrote:

I just don't see how these features are going to be all that useful and I don't know how I am going to be able to justify the hefty price tag that Garmin is likely to place on these new devices.

Interestingly, the MSRP of these 2013 models is actually the same as the initial MSRP of the 2012 line. The current MSRP is lower because Garmin lowers it over time due to the normal lifecyle of electronic products.

The new 3597LMT $380 MSRP is actually less then the 3590LMT's initial $400 MSRP.

If prices are too high, just wait a year and they'll probably drop by 20-30% by that time. Also by that time you'll probably be able to get a refurbished 2013 model for maybe 40% off.

New Units

If they don't bring back "Routes" instead of "Trip Planner", these units are useless for me!

Thanks for the info

class3 wrote:
rame1012 wrote:

I just don't see how these features are going to be all that useful and I don't know how I am going to be able to justify the hefty price tag that Garmin is likely to place on these new devices.

Interestingly, the MSRP of these 2013 models is actually the same as the initial MSRP of the 2012 line. The current MSRP is lower because Garmin lowers it over time due to the normal lifecyle of electronic products.

The new 3597LMT $380 MSRP is actually less then the 3590LMT's initial $400 MSRP.

If prices are too high, just wait a year and they'll probably drop by 20-30% by that time. Also by that time you'll probably be able to get a refurbished 2013 model for maybe 40% off.

When I clicked the "closer look" link last night, it wouldn't show me the individual models, but its working now. And that's pretty cool that Garmin is keeping the same prices, but what I said about how accurate the new information will be is still a concern. I'm gonna wait to buy one of these models (if I do at all) to see how they work and how widespread these new features will be. I could be wrong about what I said, but I just can't see how the map data is gonna keep up with the changing environment, and if it can't, then I don't see the point in upgrading. But only time will tell

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Garmin Express is back

As downloaded the version is 2.0.1. At this time that appears to be the current version.

it's so funny

reminds me of the 9-5+5x0+3=? thing that was going around on facebook. Essential series? LOL Prestige? It's like we've become a society that compares based on a name the marketers make up. I guess when everybody already has what you're selling, you have to come up with some reason for them to toss out what they have and spend more $$$ on your new product. Though with LMT, short of a bad screen, I can't think of a single reason why anybody would upgrade what they have.

Real Voice?

"Hear the new sound of advanced guidance. Improved, intuitive navigation feels like driving with a friend."

Sometimes my friend Jill on my 2460MT sounds like she had a few too many. Glad I was driving and not her. razz

Curious to see what improvement if any that offers.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

It seems that every

It seems that every generation of Garmin offers less than the previous one. My original 660 gave me distances to the exits on interstates, it recognized every rest area as a rest area and not a road ahead. When you drove by a lake/river it gave you the name of the lake/river. All of this was removed from the 660 by a firmware release. When having a 1750 and 660 on the dash next to each other, the 1750 shuts down for temperature protection, but the 660 keeps working. And why are the units all black which adsorbs heat, while the older versions were silver, which reflects heat. When I contacted Garmin about these questions, they would not answer by phone or email.

When I was overseas, the detail on the Garmins there blew you away with the detail. Every red light showed on the display and buildings over 3 stories had slices the counted to the number of stories the building contained.

It is unbelievable that the map detail is so lacking. When driving in a park area, it only displays the main road, even though there is a macadam road exiting the main road. If we could have Google maps on a unit, would prove to more informative. .

As the old saying goes, the further we move forward, the further bewhind we go.

Sorry, I couldn't resist going off topic

johnnatash4 wrote:

reminds me of the 9-5+5x0+3=? thing that was going around on facebook.

The answer depends on the type of calculator you own. A dollar store calculator would give an answer of 3, because it does not have a stack register where intermediate calculations are stored. In simpler terms, the dollar store calculator calculates the answer based upon the order items are entered, thus 9-5=4, 4+5=9, 9x0=0, 0+3=3.

A TI-92 on the other hand would give an answer of 7. Since the TI-92, or pretty much any scientific calculator for that matter, has a stack register, portions of a problem that involve multiplication or division are figured before addition and subtraction. Thus, for the TI-92, it would be 5x0=0, 9-5=4, 4+0=4, 4+3=7.

We now return you to your regular discussion on the 2013 nüvi line up.

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Nerd Badge

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

reminds me of the 9-5+5x0+3=? thing that was going around on facebook.

The answer depends on the type of calculator you own. A dollar store calculator would give an answer of 3, because it does not have a stack register where intermediate calculations are stored. In simpler terms, the dollar store calculator calculates the answer based upon the order items are entered, thus 9-5=4, 4+5=9, 9x0=0, 0+3=3.

A TI-92 on the other hand would give an answer of 7. Since the TI-92, or pretty much any scientific calculator for that matter, has a stack register, portions of a problem that involve multiplication or division are figured before addition and subtraction. Thus, for the TI-92, it would be 5x0=0, 9-5=4, 4+0=4, 4+3=7.

We now return you to your regular discussion on the 2013 nüvi line up.

Strephon deserves the Nerd Badge, in a good way!

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Nuvi 3790LMT, Nuvi 760 Lifetime map, Lifetime NavTraffic, Garmin E-Trex Legend Just because "Everyone" drives badly does not mean you have to.

2013 lineup

I like the looks of that magnetic mount. But there doesn't seem to be any major change for me to upgrade.
Will be interesting to see if these have the same issues their other units had when they first came out. It seems like it takes Garmin 2 or 3 updates to get them working right.

Staying w/2012 Model

donbadabon wrote:

I like the looks of that magnetic mount. But there doesn't seem to be any major change for me to upgrade.
Will be interesting to see if these have the same issues their other units had when they first came out. It seems like it takes Garmin 2 or 3 updates to get them working right.

I was comparing my 3490LMT with the 3597LMTHD and with the exception of a refreshed GUI, it's basically the same unit with the exception of the screen size, less battery life with the 3597, no more pedestrian mode/photo nav/audio book player with the 3597, added Real Directions (make left at gas station vs. Main Street), and a magnetic mount. The only complaint I have with the 3490 is that the photo realistic JV is hard for me to read (my eyes are not as good as they used to be) so if the 5-inch model has the same resolution and is easier to see, then I may consider. Last CES I put my 3490 right up against a 3590 and found that the 3590's resolution looked washed out. I really think the 5-inch models should pack more than 800x480 pixels but maybe it's technically not possible yet (I don't know). I will of course put my 3490 up against the 3597 at CES this week and try to compare.

The only thing that concerns me is it says N/A for USB mass storage mode. I can't imagine that being gone. If it is, that would be a huge deal breaker.

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Green Traffic Icon on 3590

Speed2 wrote:
rthibodaux wrote:

Also to see how traffice will work.

Comparing the 3790LMT with the 3590LMT
The 3590LMT gets the green traffic icon on the screen instantly. 3790 is really slow. 10 minutes mostly. Satellites are almost instant also with the 3590, again the 3790 is slow. I can actually use the 3590 indoors.

The traffic icon on the 3590 comes on green when the receiver is plugged in and it stays on until the receiver is unplugged. It does not seem to indicate the reception of traffic information like other models do, just that it is connected. Even when you are not in reception range it still stays green.

The satellite reception speed is great. When I turn it on I usually have full satellite connection by the time the start up screens finish loading.

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MTP only?

Preroll wrote:
donbadabon wrote:

I like the looks of that magnetic mount. But there doesn't seem to be any major change for me to upgrade.
Will be interesting to see if these have the same issues their other units had when they first came out. It seems like it takes Garmin 2 or 3 updates to get them working right.

...The only thing that concerns me is it says N/A for USB mass storage mode. I can't imagine that being gone. If it is, that would be a huge deal breaker.

Wow, that would mean losing the ability to do a computer backup of the nuvi, wouldn't it? It seems that the models that now come with a MTP default need to switch to Mass Storage to see, backup, etc. the internal files.

Street name display at bottom ceter

One of the subtle welcoming additions is the display of the name of the street that you are currently traveling at the bottom center of the screen. This feature has been there for the Asian models for a few years now.

The Taiwanese website also shows one of the new Asian models with almost "full" Android "phablet" functionality, sans the phone. Maybe some of the features will show up in future US/Europe models.

http://www.garmin.com.tw/products/ontheroad/nuvi3595r/

and the page translated by Google:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&pr...

Garmin® 2013 nüvi Lineup Makes it Easier Than Ever to Follow Dir

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

HDTV ???

If the NA models allow for TV display (yikes) I see problems allowing for that option.

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Thanks

Thanks for the info.

This may be the year to add to my Garmin collection.

Fred

There Might Be A Problem

Using Landmark in giving direction is that how fast will Garmin update if the Landmark is no longer there. Such as Fast Food, Restaurant,etc.

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3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT, 60LMTHD

2797 7in Specs

The physical specifications on the 2797 (7in) are the same as the 2597 (5in).

I wonder what else is wrong on the spec sheet.

I Will Confirm At The Show

CraigW wrote:
Preroll wrote:
donbadabon wrote:

I like the looks of that magnetic mount. But there doesn't seem to be any major change for me to upgrade.
Will be interesting to see if these have the same issues their other units had when they first came out. It seems like it takes Garmin 2 or 3 updates to get them working right.

...The only thing that concerns me is it says N/A for USB mass storage mode. I can't imagine that being gone. If it is, that would be a huge deal breaker.

Wow, that would mean losing the ability to do a computer backup of the nuvi, wouldn't it? It seems that the models that now come with a MTP default need to switch to Mass Storage to see, backup, etc. the internal files.

I'm going to try and get to it myself at the booth to verify if the website is incorrect. I believe it was Volume - Hold Upper Right - MTP settings. It's been awhile but I'll test it on my 3490 first and report back after the show.

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Was Thinking The Same

rthibodaux wrote:

Using Landmark in giving direction is that how fast will Garmin update if the Landmark is no longer there. Such as Fast Food, Restaurant,etc.

I was thinking the same thing. Make a right at the gas station (which is now a parking lot).

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH

That's exactly what I was saying

I don't think Navteq drives the roads often enough, even in major cities, for the real voice guidance to be accurate. You could very well be told to turn left at a gas station that is now a parking lot, so that's why I'm not exactly sure if these new nuvis will be helpful

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Permanence

Maybe most of the time it just says "Turn right at the traffic light" or "Turn right at the stop sign." If it's timed to go on after you've passed the last possible traffic light or stop sign, then I think this would help a lot. Garmin does say in its press release that one of factors of the landmark must be permanence.

I'm glad they're at least trying. The current way of street names isn't very good when navigating in a dense metro area with short blocks, lots of cross streets and poor signage. It's often very hard to ID the street in time and you end up being very indecisive about whether you should turn. So I end up looking at the GPS a lot and following the magenta arrow instead. As I drive, I really just want to know to "Turn at the next street, or light, etc" like the way a passenger would tell me.

If the new data actually really knows where traffic lights and stop signs are, perhaps routing and ETAs will be even better now that it knows where those things are located.

Landmark

There are several definitions for Landmark, but I certainly hope that a Shell gas station won't be considered one.

There are most probably thousands of Landmarks across the globe but certainly not found at every corner street. When somone says Landmark The CN Tower, Saint Joseph's Oratory or the Empire State building come to mind but certainly not a gas station or McDonalds.

With time we'll see if this additional piece of information is beneficial or not to the user.

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The question is:

Would you buy it?

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rlohnes wrote:

The traffic icon on the 3590 comes on green when the receiver is plugged in and it stays on until the receiver is unplugged. It does not seem to indicate the reception of traffic information like other models do, just that it is connected. Even when you are not in reception range it still stays green.

The satellite reception speed is great. When I turn it on I usually have full satellite connection by the time the start up screens finish loading.

I thought so too. But I checked and compared. The 3790 when it comes green you can access traffic info by pushing the icon. The 3590 works the same way. Yes the 3590 comes green right away, but so is the traffic info. If your icon is grey it won't give you info by hitting the icon. Try this. Put the 3590 into it's cradle with out plugging cradle into the cigarette lighter outlet. Turn it on, then plug the cigarette lighter in. The icon should still be grayed out. Then push the icon. See what info you get. The reason i say this is because if you do not plug the lighter in, it will give you an error message. Then shut down your unit, take it out of the cradle, then put it back in. Your icon should be green now. Now check the info.

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This is a concern for me:

Preroll wrote:

...the 3597LMTHD...no more pedestrian mode...and...it says N/A for USB mass storage mode. I can't imagine that being gone. If it is, that would be a huge deal breaker.

I don't want to have to bring along two GPS units everywhere I go -- one to drive with and one to walk around the city or geocache with!

And hopefully, the lack of USB storage is just an inadvertent omission in the listing?!

It Was

flounced wrote:
Preroll wrote:

...the 3597LMTHD...no more pedestrian mode...and...it says N/A for USB mass storage mode. I can't imagine that being gone. If it is, that would be a huge deal breaker.

I don't want to have to bring along two GPS units everywhere I go -- one to drive with and one to walk around the city or geocache with!

And hopefully, the lack of USB storage is just an inadvertent omission in the listing?!

I went to the booth last week and tested it. It was an inadvertent omission. I'm going to write up a a little review in the next day or two RE: the 3597LMTHD.

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Review

Preroll wrote:

...I'm going to write up a a little review in the next day or two RE: the 3597LMTHD.

Great. Eagerly waiting to read it! Thanks! cool

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