Google Maps for iOS

 

Releasing tonight? http://allthingsd.com/20121212/google-set-to-release-ios-map...

I'm quite satisfied with Navigon, and Apple's native iOS6 Maps App works fine for me too... Do I need Google? Not really...

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

@kch50428

Saw a couple of interesting reports in the past 2 days regarding Apple and their maps. In one, the Australian State Police are advising people not to use the iOS product to navigate in one area as the locations are off by many kilometers and people are getting stranded in remote areas without water or fuel. The second was Apple may target Tom Tom as an acquisition. That would correct the mapping errors quickly.

In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens in both instances.

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Good or Bad?

kch50428 wrote:

Releasing tonight? http://allthingsd.com/20121212/google-set-to-release-ios-map...

I'm quite satisfied with Navigon, and Apple's native iOS6 Maps App works fine for me too... Do I need Google? Not really...

Wonder if the appearance of the Google app will have any effect on level of Apple's efforts to fix theirs...

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Box Car wrote:

Saw a couple of interesting reports in the past 2 days regarding Apple and their maps. In one, the Australian State Police are advising people not to use the iOS product to navigate in one area as the locations are off by many kilometers and people are getting stranded in remote areas without water or fuel. The second was Apple may target Tom Tom as an acquisition. That would correct the mapping errors quickly.

In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens in both instances.

Apple's Australian error was fixed Monday... how it happened is here: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/11/apple-fixes-australian-m...

Google has it's own Australian mapping issue routing people the wrong way on a one way road... See: http://au.news.yahoo.com/technology/news/article/-/15610781/...

No map provider is immune from errors that could lead to tragedy - but Apple seems to get all the crap from media & bloggers... wonder why...

The Apple buying TomTom is some stock analyst's wet dream... I won't say it's impossible... but I don't see it as very likely.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

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Tuckahoemike wrote:

Wonder if the appearance of the Google app will have any effect on level of Apple's efforts to fix theirs...

Should have an opposite effect - Apple would have all the more incentive to make their App the best it can be as quickly as possible. Competition is good for the end user.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

Some do, some do not

It's an alternative for many users, especially those welded to the google ecosystem. A (nascent?) threat to Garmin Nav app in the Appstore? Why should one be paying big bucks when there is a reasonably priced (free) alternative which works similarly? And when the current iOS6 map has against all odds worked hard to gain a bad rep?

Some tourist are thick, no brains, a brick short of a load.

Box Car wrote:

Saw a couple of interesting reports in the past 2 days regarding Apple and their maps. In one, the Australian State Police are advising people not to use the iOS product to navigate in one area as the locations are off by many kilometers and people are getting stranded in remote areas without water or fuel. The second was Apple may target Tom Tom as an acquisition. That would correct the mapping errors quickly.

In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens in both instances.

Yep that story was on our TV news.

I never understand why people press the button and think the GPS has got it right. We have quite a few cases where people have got into real trouble. One group of tourist ended up in a rental car driving down a gravel road and after about 40km or 25 miles the road turns into a mild 4wd road, they would of had trouble crossing the many fords, the bottom of my 4wd scrapes in places, I have driven it and no way would I take an ordinary car, after the first mile or two it was well past the point to turn round, but they drove through and got out the other end. Then they said the GPS had it wrong, yeah right.

All the roads here that a tourist would normally drive are sealed roads, rental car companies wont give you insurance if you drive on gravel roads, so some people just don't think. Normal people at least have a look at map or ask somebody before you set out surely.

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A good alternative if needed

I have been comparing the Apple and Google Map apps on my iPhone 5. Both use vectors and zoom in and out smoothly. I prefer Apple's fonts and road markings but Google has better contrast and is more up to date. Google also links to its own databases of POI information.

Google is also making it easy for developers to choose which map to use in apps that need navigation. I expect to see updates soon that will give users a choice.

In my uses Apple's map has been fine and in some cases better than Google. I expect now that Apple is working to improve their app, the availability of the Google app will take the pressure off to rush an update.

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glad that's fixed

kch50428 wrote:

Apple's Australian error was fixed Monday... how it happened is here: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/11/apple-fixes-australian-m...

Glad that was fixed. Not that it would ever be an issue for me. Probably the reason Apple is catching all the flak over their mapping issues is because of the way they went about launching their maps. It wasn't really a smooth transition and that's what upset a lot of people.

kch50428 wrote:

The Apple buying TomTom is some stock analyst's wet dream... I won't say it's impossible... but I don't see it as very likely.

Both the digital map data providers are having issues with cash flow. Nokia and Tom Tom did pay premium prices for the companies just before the economy tanked.

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Looks good so far. I used

Looks good so far. I used to have an Android and loved google maps & navigation; happy to have it on the iphone. Main thing that appears missing compared to the Android version is voice recognition (the ability to speak your destination rather than type it.)

Definitely a threat to 2nd tier nav companies/apps such as Waze.

so far

So far so good. Looks like Apple's move forces google to ramp up their features for the iPhone.

Installed

This is good, very good. This could develop the two apps, and make them both better. I just don't see Apple folding here. Maps are used too often to give up that attention, which is why Google came right back. Let's not forget that Google has been doing maps for many, many years. This will be fun to watch, to see how each tries to be better.

You need to understand this is about mind-share, maps draws tons of attention, neither can afford to give it up.

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Downloaded This Morning

I woke up this morning to the news in the New York Times and immediately downloaded the app. I was very pleased with it so having both the maps app and YouTube app I decided to upgrade my iPhone from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1. This is the first time I have not upgraded immediately when a major release has come out. I just hope iOS 7 is not a major step backwards.

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picked it up this morning, Win with Waze on local conditions

but I'll still rely on the Nuvi in my car -- it doesn't need cellular access to pick up map tiles.

The winner this morning, though, was Waze.

Getting ready to leave, I asked myself, "Self, what the *** are those helicopters doing circling around our area? I wonder if someone has done something silly..."

Checked in on Waze, and found a number of close-by freeways and major arteries were slow to standstill, with reported police activity in the area. I took an alternate route to the Salt Mines, with very little traffic.

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Yikes!!!!!

So I figure I'd try Google and whaddya know... It seems to avoid the simplest most direct route to the destination, offering three routes that are so far out of the way and longer than needs to be. Not one route takes the most direct option, which is also the fastest and shortest. This is my neighborhood, I know the way around here.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone XR w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Gave it a short road test

I'm still partial to my Nuvi 765T first, then either Navigon or Apple Maps... Google Maps will be a back-up should the above 3 preferences crap out for some reason...

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

Oh yeah?

diesel wrote:

So I figure I'd try Google and whaddya know... It seems to avoid the simplest most direct route to the destination, offering three routes that are so far out of the way and longer than needs to be. Not one route takes the most direct option, which is also the fastest and shortest. This is my neighborhood, I know the way around here.

And does the Apple Maps app route you differently in the exact same start point/destination?

Apple Maps Did Calculate Correctly

Apple maps did route correctly using the exact same start and end points. The best, simplest and most direct route was calculated by Apple Maps as the preferred route, with longer routes as secondary and tertiary.

dasniche wrote:

And does the Apple Maps app route you differently in the exact same start point/destination?

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone XR w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

The Garmin App Is Growing on Me

kch50428, from what you write, it looks like you would very much like the Garmin iPhone app. From what I can tell from the nuvi mode on my Montana, the Garmin iPhone app is very nuvi-like. I now like the Garmin app more than Navigon. The Garmin app is very much Garmin-esque, but on Apple hardware. Works with Bad Elf too. I've run the Montana and Garmin App/iPhone simultaneously and they are nearly identical.

I was using Navigon, but the Garmin app is winning me over.

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diesel wrote:

kch50428, from what you write, it looks like you would very much like the Garmin iPhone app. From what I can tell from the nuvi mode on my Montana, the Garmin iPhone app is very nuvi-like. I now like the Garmin app more than Navigon. The Garmin app is very much Garmin-esque, but on Apple hardware. Works with Bad Elf too. I've run the Montana and Garmin App/iPhone simultaneously and they are nearly identical.

I was using Navigon, but the Garmin app is winning me over.

I also have the Garmin Street Pilot App... not the 'on board' version though... it is like a Nuvi 350 to me... Navigon is closer in my user experience to my Nuvi 765t.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

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I use Garmin USA which is Garmin's on board mapping app & I like it as well or better than routing with my Nuvi 760.

With the app on my iPhone I also get a "Street View" of my destination when I approach it something my Nuvi can't do.

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