Extra POI Editor

The first thing to try would be to reset EPE. To do that:

- Right-click on the shortcut you use to launch EPE, then choose

Send To > Desktop (create shortcut)

- On your desktop, find the shortcut you just created. If you already had an "Extra POI Editor" shortcut on your desktop then the new one will be called "Extra POI Editor (2)".

- Right-click that shortcut and choose "Rename". Change the name to "EPE RESET".

- After renaming the shortcut, right-click it again and choose "Properties".

- Click inside the "Target" textbox to put the insertion point in there. Hit the [End] key to take you to the end of the string, hit the [Spacebar], then type

-reset

(including the hyphen). The entire "Target" string should now look something like

"C:\Program Files\TurboCCC\Extra_POI_Editor\Extra_POI_Editor.exe" -reset

- Click "OK" to save the change, then double-click the "EPE RESET" shortcut. You should see a message saying

"The TurboCCC keys have been deleted from the registry! You may restart Extra_POI_Editor normally."

- Drop the "EPE RESET" shortcut into the Recycle Bin, then launch EPE normally and see if the runtime error has gone away.

It worked - thanks so very much for the help.

Dick

This needs to be a FAQ

Good idea. I just submitted one.

I needed to reinstall Windows and was expecting to simply install Extra_POI_Editor by grabbing the installer from (http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor). The page now says "Subscription Expired" Am I missing something or has Turbo's absence allowed this page to expire and we can no longer download the installer? This sure puts a hitch in the giddyup! I found a few download sites that purport having this file, but I'm not certain that they would not install additional "stuff" that I really don't want.

I got the same thing when I went to the web site. It isn't that yours or mine subscription is expired I think it's TurboCC has expired, I think that's it.

Not looking good at all

It looks like the host went to an annual subscription model recently. Hopefully Turbo can move his files to another host when he gets an opportunity.

I'm going to put the program on my backup drive just in case.

I am a saver and I looked in my download folder and I have the 4-13-2012 V532 edition. It works just fine for what I need. I just use it to change my POIs from one type to another.

I looked on the web and there are a lot of places with the Extra_POI_Editor for free download but I would be afraid that they have hidden stuff in them. It was so nice that he had it where we could be comfortable that it was on a safe site.

I think TurboCCC is ok as his tracks show he has been on this site 6 days ago. He is just probably retired from the software business or as the above states the site changed it's funding policy.

For years, my practice has been to do all of my downloads to a folder called MyDwnLds. In this folder are several other folders. One is called "Installed"; another is called "Not yet installed"; and another called "Uninstalled".

When I come across a program that I want - or perhaps has been recommended by someone I trust like Leo Notenboom (http://askleo.com/all-entries-by-date/) - I download it to one of these three folders - putting it into a folder of its own.

If I have time to install the program and test it out at the time of the download, it goes into the "Installed" folder upon download. Then I install and try it out. If I like it, OK. If I do not like it or think it is not an improvement over something I already have, I will "uninstall" it using the "Advanced" mode of Revo Uninstaller (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=revo&m= which is "portable" and does not need to be installed). Then I move the folder that contained the just tested program into the "Uninstalled" folder.

For example, I was trying imaging programs and looked at DriveImageXML. As I recall at the time it did not then support USB drives as the destination, so I uninstalled it and moved the Folder "DriveImageXML" from the "Installed" folder to the "Uninstalled" folder. This helps me later to remember what I have tried in the past.

I should note that I try always to capture the "description" of the program on the download site and save it as a "text" file along with the .exe (usually). This way I can refresh my memory as to what the program claimed to do.

From time to time I look in the "Not Installed" folder to see if I am still interested in the programs sitting there. Often I am not because I found something that works and was free.

SO - I have older versions of software because I do not delete these older versions when a new version comes out. Right now, I have multiple versions of EPE.

AND, even if I sometimes decide to delete some older versions, I still have them on the various image backups that I have made over the years. That is what Mary was also encouraging - BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP.

I put up what may be a temporary page with various versions of EPE for all.

http://camerabob.dyndns.org:5190/epe/

It was posted without express permission from TurboCCC, so he may request it be removed in the future. In the meantime, enjoy.

Bob

I have seen this mentioned before, what is an image backup?

Also, you sure do have your files organized. Mine are sort of organized. In my backup folder I have folders with stuff like Garmin, Sewing, Embroidery, and stuff like that and when I put the file or program where I want it I keep a copy in downloads. About the same but mine has a lot of straggler files that are not in folders. Will have to work on it.

I am a strong believer in backups - as you know - and as you appear to be. What is at issue here is "how" backups are made and managed.

So, Let me deal with several kinds of backups
1) real time to cloud
2) copies of folders/files
3) clones
4) images

I am a big fan of Carbonite (although there are several other vendors). Carbonite costs me $60 a year and I feel it is well worth the price. What Carbonite does is to backup - in almost real time - any file which is saved into a Folder that I have told Carbonite to keep backups of. This is one reason why I try to be "organized" in where I put my files. Rather than use "My Documents", I have two major folder named "PORTABLE APPS" AND "USER" on my C: Drive. All other folders on the C: Drive have been created by Windows or installed software. And the reason I have "PORTABLE APPS" separate from "USER" is that it was easier to use a synchronization program to keep the portable apps I keep on my computer and the portable apps I carry on a SD card in my pocket in sync. The upshot is that I tell Carbonite to make a "cloud" copy of everything in my "USER" folder. That means that things like "Program Files" or "Program Data" are not backed up (and "Program Data" is where Garmin stores the "maps", by the way)

I have also had enough experience with losing or corrupting files to be somewhat paranoid. When I was working on 4 Estates at one time, I had lots of documents which I had scanned into my computer and really did not want to lose to a disk drive failure or to stupidity on my part. So, I was using Folder/File backups on a fairly frequent basis. Each Estate's documents - after I had worked on them - would be copied onto a 4G or 8G flash drive. Since each was in its own folder, I did a copy of the entire folder to the appropriate flash drive.

I am about to make a "clone" of the "capture and editing" computer at my church where I am a member of the Television Ministry crew (we have produced a weekly TV program for the past 40 years). A "clone" is a bit-by bit copy of a hard drive. Once I make the "clone" of our "C: Drive" which contains the programs necessary to "capture" our program each Sunday, if we ever come in some morning and find that the computer has experienced a hard drive failure or some corruption of the hard drive that keeps the programs from operating, we can open the computer, replace the C: Drive with the "clone" and be up and running. Note that the other likely point of failure would be a "power supply" problem so having an extra one of those is cheap insurance.

To recap, the "clone" is an exact replica of a hard drive at a point in time.

Now, an "image" is not that different from a "clone" except that many programs that make "images" also compress the data being extracted from the source drive - which means that it has to be "restored" to be operable.

I try to make an "image" backup of my computer every several months on one of the multiple USB external drives I have. The yearend backup goes into a safety deposit box - amazing how small these drives are. What I am working toward now is setting up a schedule that will make "incremental" images on a bi-weekly basis. I use Macrium Reflect and will tell it to make an image of any file that has changed since the last "image". Note that the first time I run, a full backup image will be made. The next backup will be of only those files that are new or have changed since the previous backup run.

Mary, I hope this helps.

And, I hope it will encourage other members to consider their own backup strategy.

I now have a server in my basement with a RAID 10 array. I have a spare RAID card, and drives are dirt cheap nowadays and can be had at any decent computer outlet in a hurry. Since I have more than one server online at a time, any system failure would only mean that I have to migrate the RAID card and drives to another server to get my data. My other workstations back up to the server on a regular basis via Code42's CrashPlan software. Any time a file is touched, it's backed up when the poller (on each PC or MAC) checks every fifteen or 30 minutes. I also maintain backups for a few friends since I have terrabytes worth of fault tolerant capacity at my fingertips.

This scenario would be the image type of backup, since I need the CrashPlan software running to restore my data.

I am envious.

And - you are to be applauded for helping out your friends.

This is far easier than trying to get their files back from their cold, dead hard drives later....

If allowed to keep it, this will also be helpful to any newcomers who would benefit from access to this handy tool.

Thanks, I have a program that copies files. Will have to look and see if it does the image. I think it has something that compresses the file.

Thanks to BobKZ, I have added some additional TurboCCC files that he had kicking around, not just EPE.

Enjoy.

By the way, the link has changed due to the change in content: http://camerabob.dyndns.org:5190/TurboCCC

All is well now

this program open open for a long time...shows the window on the task bar but will not open to full screen...I have the latest version...I stopped using it long ago unfortunately.

I do have 5.91 working in my computer, i also belive i have the exe file where i usually put stuff like that, if my computer die i most certain have nothing...
I will put a spare somewhere in the cloud and i will save your link!

Looking in the Index one finds
Extra POI Editor | Troubleshooting | Application Window Does Not Appear
at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/38052

Also, on my own desktop, I have an Icon named "EPE Reset" next to the Icon for "Extra POI Editor". I created this by following the instructions in
Extra POI Editor | Troubleshooting | Run-Time Errors And Crashes
at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/38053

My web server hard drive crashed last night. I am in the process of rebuilding it. It should be back up by later in the day. Thank goodness for BACKUPS!

for me...maybe I will reload the program and try again after a registry clean

Thanks for your patience. Not the best timing for a test of my backup software, but a really great learning experience. I now realize I have a few more areas to be backing up...

I just got a note from wikispaces and then I went to this page, EPE is back and I was able to download the installer from this page:

http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor

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This is such a handy tool to edit and create POI files.

I guess I've been too dependent on this program--nothing like it!

Thanks for the info!

He should make a complete backup of the site in case this happens again. Mirroring the site would arguably be better.