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Every now and then, I go to Gary Hayman’s site to the Recent Additions page. I then read the recent articles.

I was reading the http://home.comcast.net/~ghayman3/garmin.gps/pagepoi.08.htm
Page – and in particular a section dealing with
1. how far out can you be zoomed and still see an icon for a custom POI, and
2. tourguides

I have been doing Beginners Exercises in poi-factory.com and am thinking now of Continuing Education Exercises. I was thinking about doing one on TourGuide.

Last week, I was fooling around with EPE and found that EPE could create a “radius” alert without the use of TourGuide in the file name. Not only that, EPE can create a .gpi file that works.

So, I decided to use data from Gary’s page (and his MyPOI.bmp) to see what would happen if I did not put TourGuide in the file names. As he suggested, I also went to http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and created a .wav file that said

“this is a .wav file created by “http://www2 research att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php””

I changed Gary’s Salina Start position slightly so that, in my simulation, I had to make a turn before getting on I70 – so my starting coordinates were

-97.668092, 38.870788.

If I got an alert before the turn, then I had a “radius” alert, not an “along the route” alert

I used EPE to create a gpx file with links to the .bmp and .wav files for Salina End

Notepad sees this file as:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no" ?>
<gpx xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1" xmlns:gpxx="http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/GpxExtensions/v3" creator="Extra_POI_Editor V5.32" version="1.1" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/GpxExtensions/v3 http://www8.garmin.com/xmlschemas/GpxExtensions/v3/GpxExtensionsv3.xsd">
<metadata><!--
Extra_POI_Editor can only be used for personnal usage and not for any commercial purposes without a written permission of the author, aka TurboCCC. I can be reached at turboccc@hotmail.com.
--><link href="http://turboccc.wikispaces.com"></link>
<time>2012-05-02T15:34:45Z</time>
</metadata>

<wpt lat="38.84862" lon="-98.35553">
<time>2012-05-02T15:33:46Z</time>
<name>Salina End</name>
<link href="C:/User/Garmin/@BMP%20files/MyPOI.bmp%20c:/user/garmin/@sounds/att.wav"/>
<extensions>
<gpxx:WaypointExtension>
<gpxx:Proximity>60960</gpxx:Proximity>
</gpxx:WaypointExtension>
</extensions>
</wpt>

</gpx>

Using EPE, I took this .gpx file and saved it as a .gpi file called “Hayman Salina End.gpi”, which I transferred manually to the [nuvi]:\Garmin\Poi folder on my 765T.

In Simulation mode, I “set” my location at “-97.668092, 38.870788” and did a Where To? > Extras > Custom POIs > Hayman Salina End. After answering “yes” to the question Do you want to simulate this route”, the simulation started. Before the turn onto I70, I got the bubble saying “Alert: Salina End” – but no Sound and no Icon (which I really did not expect – that would be asking too much of EPE). However, it acted as a tourguide (remember I was not yet “along the route”, and I did not have “TourGuide” anywhere in the name or file.

I renamed the files in the links seen in the .gpx file

I then put the files
“Hayman Salina End.bmp”,
“Hayman Salina End.gpx”,
“Hayman Salina End,wav”
in the folder
“Salina End”
and used POI Loader 2.7.1.0 to load the files in that folder to my 765T.

I ran the above simulation again, but this time I got – in addition to the alert bubble – the wav sound and saw the icon at 200 mile zoom.

But, once again, no TourGuide anywhere.

It is true that the gpx file does have <gpxx:Proximity>60960</gpxx:Proximity> but nothing I have read prepared me for these results of tourguide-like action.

I hope someone else will test this to see if they get similar results.

CSV files would look like

-97.668092, 38.870788 ,Salina Start,

and

-097.67328, 38.87805 ,Salina End,

Circles, Circles and more circles

Back when I was following the EPE thread for GPI creation my mind went in circles when they started talking about and adding the radius circles. But yes, creating Tourguides without the word Tourguide was part of the last few versions of EPE once they started adding the circles.

Also true is that the saved GPX file has no references to the circles and I don't think POI Loader supports this except for adding the Tourguide word in the filename. So any GPI file created with POI Loader will be along the route, while using EPE to create the GPI will create a Tourguide without using the tourguide word.

Remember that the filename doesn't really have a lot to do with creating the GPI file when using EPE because the file is already loaded. You can load a plain file, add a Radius distance and then immediately create the GPI with the save command.

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Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts & 1450LMT | 2005 Harley Road King, Black Cherry Pearl / Black Pearl

Alerts

May be reading this wrong.But if you have a start and a end distance and set the gps to go to it.You will get the alert based on distance set regardless if on the same road.For example I have my Cracker Barrel set for alerts at 8000 ft.I can be on I-95 and have set the alert for a Cracker Barrel that is on Route 58 that we stop at all the time.I will get the alert while on I-95 because it is along the route and the gps sees it that way.If I had not set it up and just use alert for all Cracker Barrels I could not repeat this to get alert from I-95.Have tried it in the past.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

POI Loader said:

"To create TourGuide points, follow the steps for creating Creating Custom POIs in MapSource and use the File/URL field to attach the appropriate .mp3 files to the points. The .mp3s must contain the word “TourGuide” in the file name to activate the TourGuide feature. For example, “TourGuide.mp3”, “TourGuide USA.mp3”, or “TourGuide 12.mp3” are all valid TourGuide file names.

After you have created all your TourGuide points, save them as a .gpx file. See Creating Custom POIs in MapSource for more information.

After you have saved your TourGuide points in a .gpx file, you can save them on an SD card or load them on your compatible GPS unit using Express Mode or Manual Mode."

Then, there are many threads where we have said the "radius" alerts required "TourGuide" in the names of each of the files.

Tourguide Alerts

Using POI Loader to make the GPI file you can set your distance in the GPX file or in manual mode but the POIs will always be along the route unless Tourguide is part of the filename which makes them tourguides with a radius alert.

Using the latest version EPE to create the GPI file you can make Tourguides without the word Tourguide appearing in the filename or appearing on the GPS Custom POI category/filename name. I don't think EPE supports adding a wav file yet so you have to settle for the default bong-bong. EPE does support adding a single bmp file for all POIs when creating a any GPI file, along the route or tourguide.

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Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts & 1450LMT | 2005 Harley Road King, Black Cherry Pearl / Black Pearl

EPE has option to link the

EPE has option to link the wav file to a poi file.Still requires sox.exe on the computer unless you have a Mac.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

I'll

I'll admit I didn't read this whole thread but I did notice in the opening post that the following files were created:

I then put the files
“Hayman Salina End.bmp”,
“Hayman Salina End.gpx”,
“Hayman Salina End,wav”
in the folder
“Salina End”

Am I wrong or shouldn't the WAV file be an MP3 file on the 765T since it has an MP3 player function? I was always under the impression that the WAV format was required only on devices without MP3 support.

Or maybe I should read the whole thread. wink

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s

mp3 or wav

The 765T, as with all the older units that support mp3, can use either mp3 or wav. I made a switch to using all wav files a while back instead of having to make different files for the 765Ts, Z665 and 1450.

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Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts & 1450LMT | 2005 Harley Road King, Black Cherry Pearl / Black Pearl

Me too

bear007 wrote:

The 765T, as with all the older units that support mp3, can use either mp3 or wav. I made a switch to using all wav files a while back instead of having to make different files for the 765Ts, Z665 and 1450.

Just seems to me to be easier to use whatever form of audio file is available since I have sox.exe in the POI Loader folder.

The ATT link makes .wav file so that is what I used.

Like

Like everyday, I have learned something new. grin

Thanks guys.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s

.WAV on 7x5

Back in the early days of the 7xx firmware (3 years or more ago) the .MP3 alerts were conflicting with the MP3 player and causing system crashes. Some users discovered that a workaround was to use .WAV and SOX.EXE. Some of us (like me) just never switched back to MP3 after the firmware problems were corrected.

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Alan - Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

EPE TourGuide

Made a gpx file of youre gpx script in notepad.
Opened in EPE and save as GPI.
Opened GPI in Hex editor and got this hex dump of the alert block:
03 00 00 00 0c 00 00 00 20 ee 00 00 00 01 00 01 01 01 04 10
Look at the last bytes: 01 01 04 10, The first 01 tell you alert is "ON", the second 01 tells you "AlongRoad",
the 04 tells you audio nr.,and the 10 tells you "pre-defined" alert sound (I did not have an wave file).

Open youre gpi file in a hexeditor and look for this alert block and see what you find in youre gpi file.
Alert types: 00=360 degree alert, 01=Along Road,02=Touguide.
Or you can send me youre gpi file to odin.midgard@gmail.com and I can look for you.

This will make you 100% sure what cind of alert you have in the gpi file.

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“Ondskap kan drepe et menneske, men kan aldri beseire et helt folk”

Here are my two

vestenfjell wrote:

Open youre gpi file in a hexeditor and look for this alert block and see what you find in youre gpi file.
Alert types: 00=360 degree alert, 01=Along Road,02=Touguide.

The first hex string is from the file
"Hyman Salina End.gpi" which is the .gpi file that I made just after I had created the "Hayman Salina End.gpx" file (which is the one I opened in Notepad and included in my OP).
03 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 20 EE 00 00 00 01 00 01 01 01 04 10 05 00 00 00 5C 04 00 00 00 00 07 00 07 00 08

This next string is from the .gpi file that I created using the "Salina End" folder (containing the .gpx, .bmp and .wav files) and POI Loader. Looking at the same place (remember you are teaching me as we go) in the .gpi file which I just copied from my 765T back into the the Salina End folder from which it was used by POI Loader, I find this hex string.

03 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 20 EE 00 00 00 01 00 01 01 01 01 20 05 00 00 00 64 06 00 00 00 00 18 00 18 00 18

If I understand you correctly, this second .gpi file is "along the road". I would not expect it to be TourGuide because POI Loader did not see any TourGuide files from which to set that code.

My interest is in the fact that what I did resulted in tourguide-like behavior. I think I have given the details which - if followed - will show that an alert occurs BEFORE the simulation turns onto I70. Clearly that is not "along the route" in the sense that I am used to.

File nr 1 :01 01 04 10 =

File nr 1 :01 01 04 10 = Alert On / Alert type AlongRoad / Audio nr 4 / predifined audio
File nr 2 : 01 01 01 20 = Alert on / Alert type Along Road / Audi nr 1 / custom audio.

Along Road = Alert along youre route ,not only the road you drive on .If you have no route: along the road you are driving.

You can test this: Move the poi 100 meters away from the road. If you still get an alert its an TourGuide or 360 degree alert, if youi dont it is an Along Road.

I do not have an US map so I cant test or see map how the roads are in the test area.
Are you sure the route dont go near the Poi?

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“Ondskap kan drepe et menneske, men kan aldri beseire et helt folk”

TourGuide rules

I am trying to make a POI file using TourGuide rules, using one BMP for all entries in the GPX, BUT having different WAVs for EACH location in the GPX. My thought is, if my POI points (Locations) are:
POI-1, POI-2, etc, I could create WAV files named the same (POI-1, POI-2, etc.) and file them in a subfolder (Subfolder in same directory as GPX and BMP). Point POILoader to the Folder that has the GPX, BMP and the Subfolder (containing my WAVs) and life would be good. Can anyone confirm? My goal is to have a different WAV for each item in the GPX.

Of course my GPX and BMP would have the same filenames and include " TourGuide ". Not sure it matters, but the Subfolder could also be named the same as the GPX and BMP. I am a newby to Garmin but have experience with TomTom.

No

POI Loader will not do that for you.

This is basically the same question as another thread
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/38872?page=1/#comment-317786

Al;erts

ww4cash wrote:

I am trying to make a POI file using TourGuide rules, using one BMP for all entries in the GPX, BUT having different WAVs for EACH location in the GPX. My thought is, if my POI points (Locations) are:
POI-1, POI-2, etc, I could create WAV files named the same (POI-1, POI-2, etc.) and file them in a subfolder (Subfolder in same directory as GPX and BMP). Point POILoader to the Folder that has the GPX, BMP and the Subfolder (containing my WAVs) and life would be good. Can anyone confirm? My goal is to have a different WAV for each item in the GPX.

Of course my GPX and BMP would have the same filenames and include " TourGuide ". Not sure it matters, but the Subfolder could also be named the same as the GPX and BMP. I am a newby to Garmin but have experience with TomTom.

To set up wav for different locations you can use Extra Poi Editor.Once you download your file to EPE double click on one of the pois. Under Tour Guide info.Put in feet for proximity you want the alert for.For link use browse and select the wav file you want for that poi and save it. Also look at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28521

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 wt and 2597 LMT.

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