BaseCamp Help and Information

I have found that if I do not have the EXACT same map file showing in BaseCamp or MapSource that is being used on the Nuvi, I will get some "straight line" gaps in the route that go cross-country.

I just did a very specific 'Road Rally' sort of tour and when I sent it to the Nuvi, BaseCamp prompted me that the maps weren't the same and that routing might be affected by that. Sure enough, on the Nuvi there were a couple straight line cross country sections of routing.

I selected the same map that was in the Nuvi and had BaseCamp recalculate the route and sent it again to the Nuvi. No more Off Road or straight line sections. I have had the same thing happen with MapSource, only it did not warn me ahead of time.

This might be what happened with your Off Road routing.

Thanks, I looked and I am using the same map as I have in my Nuvi. BaseCamp is defiantly a learning experience.

This is great information. We can't hear enough about BaseCamp as there are a lot of us trying to learn it without pulling too much of our hair out.
Thanks.

Found the Print turn by turn in BaseCamp Trip Planner.

Make your trip planner files.
Click on day one, or any day you want, on the My Collection page and open the trip.

On the day you want to print right click on the big number to the left and select Advanced

Click Route directions

If wanted click on more info at the bottom left.

Click Print in the bottom right corner

In the top center click Page setup

If map not wanted uncheck Map and uncheck Statistics if not wanted

Readjust any other settings

Click OK

Click Print or Print Preview if wanted

Yea...

Not really. It took me like half an hour to figure out how to create a route in BaseCamp 4.2.3.

Then I discovered no matter whether I click on the X in the upper right corner or go to File | Exit, BaseCamp wouldn't close.

Came to this thread hoping for an answer, but I guess the only answer is not to use BaseCamp?

Spend just two hours with this beginning with lesson 1

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/41134

Hope this helps!

and it's not my desire to invenst that kind of time trying to learn a new system when the old system was more than adequate I think the frustration level can be kept in check by doing some of the tutorials, that's a worthwhile use of time.

The only thing I can't sort that really bugs me is transferring "Favorites" back onto the device after things have been cleaned up and you end up with all these categories in Favorites. I think I understand why it's happening, I just don't know how to control it over overcome it and I DON'T want to see 5 categories in Favorites I want to see one.

in short...click on the LIST to be send to Favorites.
Instead of sending the LIST... use Edit select ALL...that data now appears in Data Window on lower left half... Move, send to (drag and Drop) into your GPS SD card or Internal Memory.. you can drop one at time are the entire block.... (lower window)

Note: your unit should be clean first of that data...so backup to a file, clean your data to remove the categories...

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/41134
Lesson 8 about the 9 minute mark.

BaseCamp and MapSource are just alike... the map area and tool bars are nearly the same.. the left windows are like our old Windows Explorer to look for data... or ITunes to look for music and put it in the list we want to play..

Hope this helps!

I'll definitely give that a try

It took me two attempts, but this did work for me, Norwood. Thanks again.

When I hit Favorites now, it puts me directly into my data, which is exactly what i want ...minimize those keystrokes while driving.

(I thought I had tried this method earlier. Perhaps not. I had gotten into the SEND TO DEVICE method and assumed it was the preferred routine.)

Setting up a 2,500 mile trip with MapSource has me going just about the way I want to. A couple of minor changes and it has my total trip laid out with the right distance.

Now doing the same in BaseCamp it has me adding at least 200 miles with a totally un-necessary diversion along the way.

Its like a triangle, where MS goes from the right corner directly to the left corner. BC instead routes me to the bottom end of the triangle to get back to the left corner. I hope this makes sense, but I can not think of another comparison.

I do NOT like BaseCamp!!!

I'm starting to learn how to use BaseCamp. What I like about it is that it reads maps directly from my Garmin device. Too bad that it doesn't work the way Google map works (drag/drop route). It would be a killer software if it does.

I just watched Norwood's tutorial (Lesson 10 - New Route tool). It helps, thanks much, but I think the tutorial is too lengthy. I get impatient waiting for him to end the route 3 clicks after the starting point. I don't think it's necessary to create a 300+ mile route while he can get his message across with a much shorter route (and only a few clicks). A short 2-3 minute video should suffice.

Does anyone know how to continue plotting a route (from the last waypoint) after we're done creating it?

Actually, it kinda does. Use the Insert tool and click on the part of the route that you want to re-route. Drag it to where you want instead.

Double-click the route to open the editor. Click the green '+' to add another waypoint. Or even better, drag a waypoint from the list and drop it into the route editor. Or you can drag a waypoint and drop it on the route icon in the list and it will open up the editor and let you place it where you want in the route.

LOL! sorry my video required your 10:12 view...that equates to my 90 minute investment to produce the four stage video.....was trying to convey more than just that route mapping info. but glad it helped you.

I do cover your next question in another video...

Norwood, don't apologize. You're making me feel bad now. I don't mean to be an unappreciative b**tard. I thank you for your time and tutorial videos.

Johnc and Norwood,
I have not had time to continue learning BaseCamp but thanks for the tips. I will take a look at it as soon as I got time.

I just ordered a Garmin City Navigator Europe NT Full GPS Maps 2014.10 MicroSD 010-10680-50

This is on a SD card so I can not load it to my computer.

My question is: If this is in my Garmin when I hook it up and turn on BaseCamp will BaseCamp read the map on the SD card?

And can I make pois on it if BaseCamp reads it?

I spent the better part of last weekend going over the tutorials for Basecamp (had to babysit my stepdaughter's kid while my wife was working long hours) but I still got so frustrated with trying to find locations with it that I gave up and used Google maps to send POIs to unit and then imported the GPXs into Basecamp. Nuts! I think the "find" function in Basecamp is even worse than Mapsource, and I think the address part of Mapsource is worthless in itself.

I find it to be a lot less time consuming to get the POIs from Google Maps, send them to the GPS, then import them into Basecamp collection, save the collection to a GPX file, and the USE Mapsource to create your route from the GPX file. I have never found a way to open multiple GPX files into Mapsource at one time.

Mapsource is not perfect by any means, but it still beats Basecamp for my needs.

Good old EBay
Received my unopened, new, 2014.10 Europe NT map today. Put the SD card in Nuvi 2450, turned it on and there they were.
Plugged Nuvi into BaseCamp, clicked on user data and clicked the map file under user data. It downloaded and there it was in BaseCamp along with my North American maps, works great on BaseCamp.
Like I said good old EBay....$19.99 and free shipping.

I know it is not the most updated map, but great for what I need. Never opened, SD card so I can use when I update again.

Agree ... Find and Search needs an major update by BaseCamp.. the old version was better.

You may can save a step with your Google search by using What's here.. then copy and paste the GPS coordinates to BASECAMP Find>Locate coordinates window and create waypoint.

I also find that holding the pan hand on a place on the map yields the Search box..this search box seems to be better than the other Search box.. searching even 90 miles away..

Hope this helps!

New Information on the search system for version 4.1 and later. See if this helps.

http://www.noeman.org/gsm/garmin-tutorials/298300-conducting...

But, IMHO Basecamp is not auto friendly. I will use it for tracks, but nothing else. I will continue to use Mapsource for everything else until it no longer functions with the Garmin mapset.

I just don't get why the address "find" function needs to be so crappy. For example. My home street is not even findable with Basecamp and it is in the mapset, and has been for a very long time. This thing needs more fixing before I will use it again for anything other than tracks.

I've been trying to teach Basecamp to myself for a couple of years now with only limited success. I believe Garmin has grossly overestimated the "tech savviness" of their customer base.

Like many other users, I find using it in conjunction with Mapsource is the best approach for me at this point.

One of the features I miss most with Basecamp is the ability to run multiple versions in separate windows. Basecamp allows only one version to run at a time. With Mapsource, several versions can be run at the same time which makes it easy to copy and paste data between files using the clipboard. While it is currently possible to run Basecamp and Mapsource simultaneously and transfer data using cut & paste, this feature will go away along with Mapsource.

Look at few of these to see if they help...

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/41134

I am working in Basecamp.
I have added 5 folders.
Budapest
Prague
Vienna
Sulzburg
Munich

Each of these folders have about the same number of POI files in them.
I save them all to my own file.I go to POI loader and upload from my computer.
Everything works great except Budapest.
I have tried changing the name of the folder, deleting the folder and files and making it again, unloading it and re uploading it many ties. I even went to Mapsource opened it in that program and then saved it again.

The problem... When I go to my custom POIs on my device everything is ok in all the folders except Budapest. It will say no files found.

I tried deleting the folder and files several ties, I also only put one file in the folder, deleted that file and put another file in it. Still my custom POI Budapest folder will not show any files.

Any one had this problem?
Any ideas?

EDIT: I just went into Basecamp and put one of my Prague files in my Budapest folder and it shows in the folder but still non of my poi files for Budapest will show.???

"Scratching my head on this one "

In the alignment of your Folders are the following all in line under My Collection in BaseCamp?

Budapest
Prague
Vienna
Sulzburg
Munich

Just checking to be sure Prague, Vienna Sulzburg and Munich where not aligned under Budapest (a sub folder or list of Budapest)

OR in BaseCamp create a Folder call Europe, then make Budapest Prague Vienna Sulzburg Munich list under Europe folder.

Then you may try to move Europe from your Computer files via POI Loader to see if all transfer.

Hope this helps....

I take it you are building a Europe file using sub-folders. Is there the possibility you have another folder inside the Budapest folder? POI Loader will only go one folder deep.

The other troubleshooting tact I would take is to start with only one file in the folder and add the others one at a time. Only put in the data file, not the icon or sound file. If it works, then start adding Icons and finally sounds. You also need to remember you can have only 32 data files in a sub-folder.

I have a perminant file named
MY POIs
next I have Attractions
nest I have all my cities, Fort Worth, Decatur, Bridgport etc...
When we go on vacation I always add more folders to my Attraction folders.
This vacation I have added all the above Europe names.
They are all in my attraction folder and all but Budapest work.
I have deleted the Budapest several times and put it back in my Attraction. Once I tried to put Hungary in and then made my file. The same thing... no files from Budapest show.

The strange thing. I can use the Device setting in BaceCamp and send them to my favorites, but never to my Custom POI file.

Will keep trying, Thanks.

No file in Budapest, checked several times.
I do not do icons and sound. Only the POI.
I did try doing that with only one file and it didn't work so, I deleted each poi file in the Budapest folder and put in a Prague file. It worked so I know I have the correct structure. I left the Prague file in and then added only one Budapest file and all that showed up was the Prague file.....

It's like my poi loader will not take any lon or lat from Prague.

Going to make a stand alone folder for Budapest and see what that does.

Thanks for the help.

My file structure
I run poi loader without any Budapest and get 27,353 files

Then I add Budapest file with one poi in it...

poi
..Attractions(folder)
----Fort Worth(file)
----Budapest (file)
----Prague(file)
----ETC......(files)
..Car Shows(folder) (with files)
..Businesses(folder) (with files)
ETC..

I get 27,354 files and receive "no matches found" in my Budapest file. I add Prague file in the Budapest file and receive 27,355 files and I CAN see the Prague POI, but not the Budapest POI in my Garmin.

I kept the above structure, delete the Budapest file in Attractions and added Budapest as a Folder

POI
..Attractions
..Budapest (folder)
----Budapest file (file)
..Car Shows
..Business
ETC..

With only one file in Budapest file I still get 27,354 and no matches found for my POI in my Garmin. I add the Prague file to this file and receive 27,355 and can see the Prague file in my Garmin but not the Budapest file that is in the same place...

I always run POI Loader and first delete all my POIs. I then rerun the POI Loader for my files.

I think I am about to give up.....

If anyone has the Europe NT 2014.10 All Map will they try to see if they can load with POI Loader to their Extras any place from Budapest.
Thanks

I always try to simplify things when I run into a problem like yours. You may have already done this but have not said so.

I am suggesting you find out if there is anything unique about the Budapest folder or files.

I would start out by running against a directory structure that looks like this.
My POIs
...Attractions
......Budapest

So, in essence, only one POI file will be loaded, that being Budapest.

If this loads correctly, then it is something with the rest of the structure.

Report back, please.

Did the one file. Would not see the Bugapest file but then I added the Prague in the same folder and it worked. I completely deleted every thing and made this new.

The Budapest file will work if I change the coordinate to another city. It will just not take Budapest coordinates

Can you copy and paste the coordinates you are trying to use? Copy and Paste so there's no loss.

N47.49694 E19.06720

The strange thing is that if I send them as waypoints and not POI Loader they will go into my favorites. Just not my Extras.

Please cut and paste a few lines from the Budapest POI file and let us know what kind of file it is.

If that is what you have in your POI file, the order needs to be reversed.

POI Loader was updated several releases ago to take the lat lon in either order.

I didn't realize that. I haven't fooled with creating any POI files for a long, long time.

I use Basecamp to do my POIs. Basecamp makes a .gpx file.

I made Prague, Munich, Sulzburg, and Vienna at the same time and the same way I made the Budapest file.

BaseCamp made all the files the same way . They are in My Files on Basecamp.

I Export them to My Garmin file and then use POI Loader to put them in my Garmin.

Everything was done at the same time and everything is ok except the Budapest file.

No matter what I do the Budapest file is not uploaded using POI LOader. The Budapest Folder is uploaded and according to my file numbers the poi file is uploaded. The Budapest folder just reports "No matches found" until I put another poi in the Budapest folder with another's cities coordinates, then I can see the other cities file and not the Budapest file.
This tells me there is nothing wrong with my file structure.

I can send the Budapest files as way points to my Garmin and they point to the correct place in Budapest on my Garmin Map. But I can not send them using POI Loader to my Extras.

I am getting mixed up by how we are using the word "folder".

I think of a "folder" as being akin to a "directory" when used on the computer.

In GPS terms we use "folders" on our computer to generate "categories" on our devices.

Having said that, what did you mean when your talked about "put[ting] another poi in the Budapest folder with another's cities coordinates, then I can see the other cities file and not the Budapest file."

You say that the Budapest file will not work when you try to load it BY ITSELF.

This is telling me that the .gpx file for Budapest has some problem.

I use Notepad++Portable with an add-in module that will format .gpx files for me.

Let me suggest that you try opening your .gpx Budapest file in Word and look at its format and extensions. Open a different .gpx file and see how they compare.

Report back, please.

John

Open it in Extra_POI_Editor, then save it again. That should (using the word here cautiously) iron out any formatting errors, then try to load it back into your unit with POI Loader.

In Basecamp You create a Folder then you have list.
The Folder is the catagory and the list has several POIs in it.

This is the structure in Basecamp.

Attractions (folder)
..Budapest (file with several pois in it)
....Hotel
....Restaurant
....Bus stop
etc...

In the Hotel file I have the Continental Hotel in Budapest and a Hotel in Prague. I also have McDonald's from Budapest.

The only thing that can be seen in my Garmin after using POI Loader is the Hotel in Prague.

All of the files were created in Basecamp the same way so they should all work.

I will open the file to see if there is something that Basecamp is doing differently when in the city of Budapest.

You are doing everything correct from what I am reading...and you have invested a lot time...so just 7 minutes more as a refresher.

I could remember an issue I had that was similar to yours when I first started to use POI Loader.

I just finished watching my tutorial video about POI Loader as a refresher... at the 1:45 mark I put on the screen the following:

"Extras can only be deleted by POI Loader on the next install or deletion feature' Unless deleted by POI loader it will read the old data or lack of...

So with your additions and deletions of data concerning Budapest to the file....looks correct but you may need to use POI Loader to delete the old data and start a new. I realize with all your trials you may have done this several times already...

Here is the video: http://youtu.be/uGvgv8mVPPw

Again, hope this helps or at least sparks an idea.

From what I'm reading here Mary is you have a file called Budapest and in that file you have some subfolders, Hotel, Restaurant, Bus Stop with POI locations for each in theses subfolders. Once you built the Budapest file, you then put that file (folder) into your Attractions folder. If this is the case, then the problem is too many levels. Budapest has a subfolder which is fine BUT when you put that folder into another, you now have 2 levels of subfolders. POI Loader can't handle that. Either don't put the Budapest folder inside the Attractions folder or eliminate the subfolders in the Budapest file.

I use Basecamp for adding way points and making routes for traveling by automobile. The newer version has many improvements.

The file structure is ok. It is just like all my other files. I can put in several POIs in the Budapest folder. The will all show up as long as they are not from the city of Budapest.

Strange.....

I am still suggesting that mgarledge will be able narrow down the problem by creating a structure
MYTest
--- Attractions
------Budapest

using the .gpx file she has.

I would suggest (as just mentioned above) letting POI Loader delete all existing POIs.

Then doing a run of POI Loader with the above structure (which has only two levels and ONLY ONE FILE) will see if the problem is with the Budapest.gpx file.

Someone help me remember. Doesn't POI Loader give you a message if you have more than two sub levels?

I do like Basecamp. All my files are great but for this one city.

Thanks fixing to follow your link. Hope it helps also.

Did this, didn't work.