CN 2012.30

 

On one of foreign forums I found info, that few days ago Garmin had loaded on their servers CN Europe 2012.30. It is not being distributed yet, but it may indicate that in 2-3 weeks (maybe faster, who knows) there will be update available.

I know that last two or so times NA version was lagging behind Europe, but still, it should be released soon as well.

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I'm hoping that 2012.30

I'm hoping that 2012.30 incorporates the changes recently made in my area. A new bridge was erected 1500 feet north of the old one and I'm currently flying in space when I go over the new bridge. So unfortunately the JCV file will be a casualty when I do the update, but I'd rather have an accurate map over the JCV file. After all there is lane assist, which is far more useful IMO than JCV.

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How does the "recalculating" work on that?

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

I'm hoping that 2012.30 incorporates the changes recently made in my area. A new bridge was erected 1500 feet north of the old one and I'm currently flying in space when I go over the new bridge. So unfortunately the JCV file will be a casualty when I do the update, but I'd rather have an accurate map over the JCV file. After all there is lane assist, which is far more useful IMO than JCV.

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It doesn't. It tells me to

It doesn't. It tells me to "please drive to the highlighted route".

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Junction Views and lane Assists

cbwatts wrote:
agg9900 wrote:

it gets me to my destination I could care less about JCV

Agg, we do a lot of traveling in a large RV, traveling anywhere from British Columbia to Key West...Nova Scotia to Arizona.

Junction views and lane assists are almost manditory when you are driving through a large "new" city, with multiple turns and expressways. Junction Views and Lane Assists give me the opportunity to get into the correct lane(s)

I totally agree with the need of lane assist and the helpful junction views, we travel from Illinois to Florida a few times a year.

Junction View and Lane Assist

is the reason I bought the 769t. Please don't tell me Garmin is taking them away.

I don't think you can

I don't think you can generalize from posts in this forum. I suspect that typical GPS owner prefers more included POI and better map coverage, even if it means a very limited number of JCV. It might be somewhat acceptable if the JCVs included were the areas most in need of it (confusing).

I don't think Garmin wants to back to the old days where limited memory meant customers picked which states to download to their GPS. I don't think Garmin wants to tell customers purchasing a SD card is necessary for the unit to do what you were told it would do when you purchased it.

The best we can hope for is the availability of a "big" JCV file for those of us willing to do a little work. I can't see Garmin directly supporting an SD card. Support issues regarding things like was the card formatted correctly.

Lifetime

bsp131 wrote:

I have a lifetime subscription. I don't know what map I am supposed to have now.

Log on to Garmin. You obviously have registration. Connect your device using the communicator tool. it will tell you the current update. Its very simple

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Waiting for this to come

Waiting for this to come out. Even though my new hosue will not be on it.

It's out there !

City Navigator Europe 2012.30 is ready for download. Question how fast will NA show.

in 2 weeks

grzesja wrote:

City Navigator Europe 2012.30 is ready for download. Question how fast will NA show.

Within next 2 weeks I'm sure.

Yawn........

Soooooooooooo much ado about pretty much nothing. The map update will be available when it's available. No sense waiting anxiously. It won't really be a big deal for 99% of users anyway.

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Hoping that 2012.30 - use NAVTEQ Reporter

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

I'm hoping that 2012.30 incorporates the changes recently made in my area. A new bridge was erected 1500 feet north of the old one and I'm currently flying in space when I go over the new bridge. So unfortunately the JCV file will be a casualty when I do the update, but I'd rather have an accurate map over the JCV file. After all there is lane assist, which is far more useful IMO than JCV.

If you have a needed map change that matters to you, such as recent construction, or built in POI changes like business moves or new community facilities like a new local library branch (as I had), don't forget about submitting it thru NAVTEQ Reporter! http://mapreporter.navteq.com/#find With the sheer volume of changes happening nationwide, its amazing they even come close to keeping current. I'm sure user reports thru the Reporter have far less lag time to appear in the database than whatever other sources they use. I have found that changes I report are usually implemented within one or two cycles. Things I hadn't reported (like the above mentioned library) had gone unchanged for several years.

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City Navigator Europe NT 2012.30

Installed today.JVC file on Nuvi 765 is 557 MB on City Navigator Europe NT 2012.30. Looks like its back to normal at my area.

*rolls eyes*

Pointer.SD wrote:

...don't forget about submitting it thru NAVTEQ Reporter!

I'm well aware of Navteq, thanks. I did that for the initial changes and they still haven't been implemented, some three years down the line.

But, given that they quickly got the new traffic pattern for I-195 in Providence on the maps only a month after it was essentially completed, I'm hopeful that this change will be on there just as quickly. After all, the state has only planned this new bridge for 30 years.

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Thanks for the posting

vestenfjell wrote:

Installed today.JVC file on Nuvi 765 is 557 MB on City Navigator Europe NT 2012.30. Looks like its back to normal at my area.

Thanks for the posting and the update news.
Will find out next release in North America 2012.30 in few days.

Thanks for the info, will be

Thanks for the info, will be looking forward in upgrading tomorrow

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I hear 2012.30 has been

I hear 2012.30 has been released in Europe but not here in the states yet..

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JCV files not that big a deal for 2012.20

I did not see the last map rollout for 2012.20 as any big tragic event with respect to junction views. My 885t did not have space in its memory for the JCV file. Day-to-day I did not miss it. Then I saw the thread on GPS Passion with the link to the large JCV file. I put that on my SD card, deleted the JCV from the 885t and now I have the large JCV file. Works just fine. If I have to do that again with 2012.30, it is not so bad either. By the time I load 2012.30 I will be doing it on my 765t and my 885t - upgrading another one to lifetime maps. I may try cleaning off stuff on the 765t but I doubt I can make the space on it either.

I am not sure what the people complaining expect Garmin to do. Do you think they should install your map to the nuvi and the JCV file to a SD card if you have one and if it has space? That seems possible but it also does not seem so out of line to me to check to see if you have space on the nuvi and if you don't install a JCV you have space for. I'd prefer if they asked where I wanted these things installed and then did it that way but I think the current process is not that bad.

Jim

JimD1, I may be wrong but I think you missed the point

JimD1, I could be wrong but I think you missed the point. There is nothing wrong with the process of choosing which JCV file you have room for and installing it where you wish.

When 2012.20 was first released, you did not have any choice as to which JCV file you received. Garmin decided for you. Even if you had room on your particular unit for the larger JCV file, you could not have it. You were stuck with what Garmin decided to give you.

After many complaints and lots of effort on the part of many on this site, Garmin finally gave us the option to install the large JCV file if we wanted it and could find a way to fit it on our unit or SD card.

It was not the process that was at issue. What was at issue was Garmin's paternalistic attitude of assuming it knew what was best for each and all of us.

I may be wrong but that's the way I understand what happened.

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I think you've missed the point

JimD1 wrote:

I did not see the last map rollout for 2012.20 as any big tragic event with respect to junction views...Then I saw the thread on GPS Passion with the link to the large JCV file. I put that on my SD card, deleted the JCV from the 885t and now I have the large JCV file. Works just fine. If I have to do that again with 2012.30, it is not so bad either....I am not sure what the people complaining expect Garmin to do. Do you think they should install your map to the nuvi and the JCV file to a SD card if you have one and if it has space? That seems possible but it also does not seem so out of line to me to check to see if you have space on the nuvi and if you don't install a JCV you have space for. I'd prefer if they asked where I wanted these things installed and then did it that way but I think the current process is not that bad.

Jim

Jim,

The process for the current map is to offer a tiny jcv file to users, much smaller than the one on the previous map--regardless of the amount of free space on the nuvi getting the map update. In northern Arizona, the result was that this tiny jcv file removed every single Junction View near me. Thankfully, a member here was able to get Garmin to offer a large jcv file for manual installation. Garmin has never stated that they'll offer a large jcv file for manual installation for future map updates. You are assuming that you'll be given the choice of installing a larger jcv file if the one supplied with the next map update is tiny again. Until we see what Garmin does with this next map update, any assumptions about how Garmin will handle jcv files for older nuvis that support JV are dangerous to make. If as you say, Garmin supplies a large jcv file for us or even makes one available for manual updating, then I agree with you that it's not a terribly big idea. But if Garmin supplies smaller jcv files with tremendously reduced numbers of Junction Views--as was done with the standard map update last time--and if they don't offer a larger one, then many of us with lifetime updates will have to weigh the decision of going for a newer map with fewer JVs or keeping the old map with the large number of JVs we have now.

To many here, this was a big deal several months ago and may be a big deal with the next update. Right now, we can only wait to see what Garmin plans to do with JVs for us with less-than-the-newest nuvi models that offer JV.

pilothaz, And...

you are the only person that knows how to go there without the use of a GPS!

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Lifteime Updater

2012.30 will be the first go for me using lifetime updater...I hope it simplifies things or at least takes care of the tedious parts in the background.

Yes but what did you do before

JV. It's nice but hardly something to get all worked up about. I drive tour buses so I travel coast to coast. Like I said if you watch road signs and the gps you'll get there. Actually if I don't research ahead of time the gps ca get me in a pickle. It does a lot of strange things. I drive any where from 60k to 100k miles a year it just depends.Canada US 48 states and Alaska been there done that. JV isn't mandatory it's a tool within a tool that I've learned to use with a lot of other things like word of mouth. No disrespect here things could be better but then oh well. I use what I can get.

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Let's see what happens

CraigW,

I agree with you that if Garmin makes us choose between the map update and the large jcv file it will be bad. But I prefer to wait to get concerned until it happens. I don't see why they would do this but I will also admit that I don't see why they did other things they've done. At this point they have the large jcv file and I think they provide it for newer nuvis with more flash memory. If that remains true, not doing a little bit of work to make if available for manual installation for those of us that like the older models seems like the best option for them. But as our numbers dwindle, what you fear may happen.

Jim

Thanks.

Thanks for the info!

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