TGdaily has just posted an article titled "World is too reliant on GPS, warns report"
I wonder when they will say that:
The World is too reliant on:
I will admit we are too reliant on government !
Have to admit I like to glance at a real paper map from time to time just for old times sake. I don't have that collection of 6 - 8 maps stuffed in the car anymore!
Keep the old map book in the car.Not sure how old it is now.
I always carry a roadatlas but it is usually one to three years old. Haven't used it much since getting the gps and MSS&T.
I also keep a Texas map and a US atlas in the car. I have not looked at it since I bought Jill Map but it is there just incase we have GPS failure........
I have a AAA map of the greater LA Region. It does what my nuvi can't. A 10,000 ft perspective of my destination from start to finish.
Per signalert.com, we have over 40 individually numbered freeways here..
It's good to have a Plan B - paper maps don't need power, batteries, or a clear view of the sky.
Have them in car, just show I can read map.
I stop at the visitors center when going to surrounding states periodically and pick up a free map. I do not use them often but I feel better having a backup.
With respect to being too dependant on technology, I messed up recently and drove to a new source of hardwood lumber without having the cell phone number of the place in my phone. My GPS got me there but the sawyer was not. I had to use my phone as a cell phone modem to fire up my laptop to get to an email with the phone number. The saw mill/kiln/storage barn is in a cow pasture. So the cows were watching me do this. I think this is a bit too dependant on technology. I remember the days before cell phones, and I got my first GPS in 2008. How time flies.
The Rand Mcnally Motor Carries Road Atlas, 2011 edition.
Rath *Likes to have a back up*
Yeah, I have been trying to teach the kids what maps are really for. Like when you tell the about the time before microwaves and they look at you and wonder how in the hell you cooked. Let's not even bring out the old "dial" phone.
I still carry a Hagstrom map in my car though I rarely look at it. It is available if needed.
I have one from 1999 in my car. A nice, convenient size, but I really do need to get a newer one. The map of Boston in it predates the Big Dig.
I don't have a single paper map in my car. My soon to be wife has one in the back of her Jeep. I have plenty of paper maps and atlases, but I consult them only before the trip if we are going off road to familiarize myself with what the area looks like on those maps. It then get packed in back, just in case. Nearly all "real" trip planning is done with Google Earth well before the key is inserted into the ignition.
I don't worry about not having a map with me for a number of reasons, but mostly if I'm not going "off the beaten path" I'm less worried about both GPS' failing in those areas, especially when every 7-11 and Circle K, Walgreens and CVS has maps and atlases for sale.
I'm all about back ups and there's nothing that helps a piece of mind but that of a paper map.
well, maybe a couple years old, the one glaring flaw of GPSr is it cannot show you the big picture and sometimes it's nice to see the big picture.
I am a cheap old man, I stop at the welcome centers of the states we travel though to get the free maps. A restroom break isn't bad either. Our new Prius has built in navigation and my garmin 3790 sits on the dash. I guess I can call that plan A, B, C
the one glaring flaw of GPSr is it cannot show you the big picture and sometimes it's nice to see the big picture.
Why is that? I can zoom all the way out to show the entire planet. How much of a bigger picture does one need?
Not a chance I'd toss out the maps. My wife does our vacation planning on her trusty road atlas. I can't see the dang thing without a magnifying glass but she can and she plans our routes on it, including alternate routes we may or may not take.
Once she's planned it all I make waypoints in Mapsource and use them to create the route for my nüvi. I also use those waypoints as the center of queries for geocaches so we can do a bit of caching while traveling.
If I did toss out the road atlas my wife would be VERY unhappy with me and would simply buy another one anyway.
When travelling abroad it's always wise to bring along the paper maps just in case....
Road maps are still very useful especially if you want a quick big picture view of where you are.
Never hurts to have a backup...
Have a atlas but rarely look at it
I'm less worried about both GPS' failing in those areas, especially when every 7-11 and Circle K, Walgreens and CVS has maps and atlases for sale.
Add to that having a smart phone with a GPS, paper is history for me.
If we had a complete failure of the sats, and cellular networks, something tells me we'd have bigger problems then that...
I have my paper maps in the car but am not too sure if they're up to date except for the main drags and freeways.
I have a US Atlas squirreled away in my storage locker, haven't felt the need to use it in years. It's not going to be terribly up to date, but unless the interstates have physically moved it's going to be good enough.
8-tracks and bell bottom pants; stop reminiscing!!!
Just in case Jill acts up;
i-phone AAA ap that gives me turn by turn directions.
There is not enough room for many paper maps
I did get rid of my old map when I got a new map.
I may have to go back to the old one though if I can find someone else with a copy.
The new one takes longer to unfold and is more difficult to refold. Sometimes you cannot find what you are looking for no matter how you unfold it.
My wife could not get her new one to refold right so she just wadded it up and threw it in the back seat. She says she is going to wait until the next version comes out and hopes it will fold better.
I think the scale on the new one is a bit off too. Not sure, but have heard others complain about it too.
The new one does have Cactus Flats on it, while the old one did not. But that may not be enough for me to not go back to the old one.
I often check the paper map to decide is there is anything nearby that interest me.
I can decide the general route and make the gps use those guidelines.
zooming your GPSr out as I can in an atlas.
I don't remember the last time I used the paper map.lol
Still have them in both cars and update to new one prior to long trips. Always have a backup plan. My wife still pulls them out to get the big picture when we travel.
I have to admit I haven't looked at a paper map in years now and I used to have quite a collection. Maybe someday they'll be worth a couple of dollars after I'm long gone.
I have a map in the car but it is a lot older then the map on my GPS.
I still carry an atlas as backup insurance also. It's nice to get the overall big picture look at where you're going and find those alternative routes that the GPS just doesn't want to take you on automatically.
That's one of the benefits of belonging to AAA. Free maps. Whenever I plan a trip, especially one that is long or new to me, I will pick up the various maps of the states I will travel through from the local AAA office. I also will leave the maps in the car so they can be seen. This will, (hopefully), throw off anyone who is of the mind to break into my vehicle to see if I have a GPS. If they see the maps, they may think that it is not worth the trouble of breaking into a vehicle that has nothing of value inside.
when it got to the point where I was finding numerous mistakes even on the "Thomas Bros" maps...AND when I had to buy a huge lens to even see the minute streets..I pitched it, and I don't regret it one little bit!
We're long distance road trippers with a VW Vanagon Westfalia and have a tendency to wander off route- or pick new ones on a whim, so we have a need to look at the big picture.
Paper includes AAA road maps and a currentish Wally World edition of the Rand McNally Atlas.
Electronics are Garmin Quest & Nuvi 750, plus a Magellan that we rely on for AAA Tourbook info- there's a huge paper and weight saver right there.
I could also use a netbook running a current version of Micro$oft Streets & Trips, but y'all would probably agree that doing that would just be overkill...
Since I am a member of AAA, I carry my state map and a few other state maps, as well as the US map. I like to see the big picture sometimes and the map provides it better. Plus if my GPS goes out I still have a backup.
I already know where I'm going, but I kinda like my 15" by 32" display. Maps fold easier than before. Even my cave woman can do it.
While I love technology (have two Gps's) I still have my full set of maps and couple of Atlas's. The full map collection does not come on each trip but the appropriate map covering our destination do.
I would never leave for a trip without a GPS AND a backup map.
Those of you still carrying paper maps as backup, when was the last time you needed the map?
I'm not asking about when you wanted to consult it, but instead when you actually *needed* it because your GPS was not available or had incomplete or inaccurate data.
In many cases the GPS does not give you the big picture and the best detours. Last month we were in miles of bumper to bumper traffic in Chattanooga, TN. The GPS wanted to take us off the interstate and then just put us back on which would have kept us in the traffic. Instead I used the map, found a street that paralleled the interstate, and ended up on the other side of town totally avoiding the traffic congestion.
Another incidents is hiking. Often the GPS does not realize there is a big cliff or drop off on trail routes. Also suppose you got lost in the woods, your batteries died on the GPS, or the GPS gave you bad information. Then how would you try to navigate to safety?
We are too dependent upon electronic devices and other gadgets. If you cannot do things the manual way, then you should relearn those skills.
Old maps are still around waiting to be mounted as pictures! Haven't bought one in a while though.
I haven't opened a paper map for real-time navigation since I got my nuvi in 2008. Even with the occasional lockup or spontaneous reboot, I just pull over and get the nuvi going again rather than trying to deal with the paper map.
When traveling, I also always have my laptop with DeLorme Street Atlas with me. So in an emergency (loss of satellite signal), I could fire up Street Atlas to figure out an alternate route. On a recent vacation, I didn't even bother to get AAA TripTik or maps, since I never opened them the last few times I got them. I may need to reconsider whether the AAA membership is still worth it.
GPS is not foolproof and there are many technical reasons why it will have more problems in the future with interference, lack of coverage, etc.
I find myself wishing I had a map in the car periodically, especially when I am trying to plan a trip or finding an alternate route. The GPS never seems to suggest the right one, always wanting to go back to what it thinks of as the "best rout". In addition, getting an overview of an area, especially on those lousy new Garmins that don't show you all the streets when you zoom out (also a pain), is particularly difficult with a GPS.
I threw away my old maps but will be keeping a couple in the car (once I find some good ones!)
Even though I always have my GPS with me, I do still like to print out Google Maps Directions or MapQuest directions from time to time. Especially if it's my first time going somewhere. I really want to get a feel for where I'm going and not soley depend on the GPS so much.
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